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A $36,000 Graphical Workstation from 1993 | SGI Indigo 2 

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In this video I looked at the SGI Indigo 2, A $36,000 workstation from 1993!
This machine has been a lot of fun to play with, I want a whole network of SGI machines! This thing is visually striking in every way, I love it!
SYSTEM SPECS
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Mainboard: IP22
CPU: Mips R4400
FPU: Mips R4010
RAM: 128MB 72-pin SIMM
GPU: Express (GR3-Elan)
OS: IRIX 5.3
Option drive: 60-90m DDS Tape Drive
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@twylo
@twylo 17 дней назад
I’m glad this showed up in my recommendations! I worked at SGI from 1996 to 1997, it’s still the best and most fun job I ever had.
@user-bf6lh9ny3o
@user-bf6lh9ny3o 17 дней назад
nerd alert
@hatsuneadc
@hatsuneadc 17 дней назад
More like absolute gigachad alert
@rokiesato
@rokiesato 17 дней назад
im surprised you kept your youtube account for THAT LONG
@Fiilis1
@Fiilis1 17 дней назад
@@hatsuneadc nah giganerd alert
@gvi341984
@gvi341984 11 дней назад
​@@rokiesatowe are ancient
@Fuzy2K
@Fuzy2K 17 дней назад
You know, people always talk about "It's a UNIX system! I know this!", but for me, the best line from that scene is "Ellie, boot up the door locks!" 😆
@BillAnt
@BillAnt 17 дней назад
It's crazy that noways most phones in our pockets have more computational and graphical power than there early specialized machines.
@MeriaDuck
@MeriaDuck 17 дней назад
@@BillAnt Not just a bit, but like thousands of times. It still baffles me we can do video decoding at less than one Watt for full HD.
@R0n8urgundy
@R0n8urgundy 17 дней назад
I worked for an asset management company in the late 90’s and we were literally junking these things, breaks my heart now!
@MaximumRD
@MaximumRD 17 дней назад
Damn that's crazy 😲😲
@jarinaumanen8447
@jarinaumanen8447 16 дней назад
Well, actually, they're junk.
@nono-oz4gv
@nono-oz4gv 16 дней назад
@@jarinaumanen8447 say hello to the shadow realm
@HalianTheProtogen
@HalianTheProtogen 15 дней назад
@@jarinaumanen8447 imagine being this loud while being this wrong
@hipster2283
@hipster2283 4 дня назад
@@HalianTheProtogen I've chucked 5 year old ThinkStations - kinda the same thing
@fc3sbob
@fc3sbob 17 дней назад
In the early 00's I collected ALL of the SGI machines I could get ahold of when they were cheap and easy to find. I had many Indigo 2's, O2's, Octanes and I have 2 Origin 2000 racks in my basement right now :)
@cutemartinj
@cutemartinj 14 дней назад
You should make a video, would be so cool to see som old nerd stuff 😉
@user-lj2bf4ch5q
@user-lj2bf4ch5q 13 дней назад
@@cutemartinj yess, really cool idea
@fc3sbob
@fc3sbob 12 дней назад
@@cutemartinj hey, I actually do have a video of it on my channel.. it's a crappy video. I ended up getting a fresh copy of Irix on it but didn't film any of that. Someone my buddy knows was remotely using it to compile some software for a while. When I have time I'll pull it out again. It's been years.
@fc3sbob
@fc3sbob 12 дней назад
@@mapesdhs597 holy crap! Cool!
@cutemartinj
@cutemartinj 12 дней назад
@@fc3sbob Awesome 🤗
@tcpnetworks
@tcpnetworks 17 дней назад
I had a fleet of these machines. They were *INSANE* machines for the time. We had about 140 of them (we were government) with dual attach FDDI sitting on the GIO. Had 4-5 machines on a ring with a DECSwitch connecting everything up.
@ModernClassic
@ModernClassic 17 дней назад
I was in film school in the mid-90's and took a 3D modeling class and we used this exact machine, except that ours "only" had 32MB of RAM. That was at a time when most home computers had 4MB, though, so I still thought it was crazy - it'd be like a machine today having 256GB of RAM. We ran Alias for 3D modeling, which is the same software used to make those movies you mentioned. It took about 10 minutes to render a single simple frame (not anything complex or realistic like in those movies), but the results were pretty spectacular in the end. I've always wanted my own Indigo2 ever since then - congrats on getting one yourself. Irix at the time was definitely light years beyond any home GUI-based OS - I felt like I was seeing the future (and in many ways I was).
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes 3 дня назад
Yeah... I can't tell you how many product releases I've seen from various companies where I've been like "yeah, we had that in IRIX 20 years ago" or some such. It's really a pity that the company didn't survive longer... who knows what else could have come out of that place. Definitely the best place I've ever worked.
@spoonified52
@spoonified52 17 дней назад
As a former SGI Technician I have never see the red Indigo 2, but on some other models I have seen custom cases for specific customers. I do still have one of the many Indigo 2 I have owned over the years, kept this one because of how unique it is. It is a Impact R8000
@user-ur3zk3no8s
@user-ur3zk3no8s 17 дней назад
I guess it would be technically correct to call it 'Power Impact' then, right?
@spoonified52
@spoonified52 14 дней назад
@@user-ur3zk3no8s correct, thought they were such a limited run and I believe special ordered that they were shipped with or without that badging. Mine does not have the power badge, but it does have the impact and R8000 badge, but I had previously ones with the power badge.
@mapesdhs597
@mapesdhs597 12 дней назад
Which OS version is it running please? Was there a particular OS release or patch which allowed IMPACT to be used with R8K?
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes 3 дня назад
@@mapesdhs597 Yeah, I think there was. My memory of that is a bit hazy, but I think it was IRIX 6.2 (or was it 6.3? 6.4?? Can't remember!)? Anyway, yeah, a rare gem indeed... but I had one at work (at SGI) for a while myself. Good times. :)
@BigDrewski1000
@BigDrewski1000 17 дней назад
I love watching vids like this because it's amazing to see just how far computers have come. These systems here truly were unparalleled powerhouses in their day, both from a hardware and software standpoint, yet nowadays even the most low end modern gaming PC can run circles around them.
@NikoKourouklis
@NikoKourouklis 17 дней назад
I'm an Indy owner. I can tell you SGI is the best ever.
@BillAnt
@BillAnt 17 дней назад
I just use Indiegogo. hehe But yeah, it was a cool machine at the time, the Amiga was the closest that came to it in terms of graphics capabilites.
@yorkan213swd6
@yorkan213swd6 17 дней назад
Serious question, why and why today ?
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes 3 дня назад
@@yorkan213swd6 As someone who doesn't currently have any SGI gear, but kinda "grew up" on it (my mom worked there when I was in high school, and then I did off and on for several years), I'll just say: while I'm sure an SGI machine would be comparatively slow these days compared to modern hardware, the software was just... so nice. IRIX in general, 4Dwm, Indigo Magic Desktop, inst, ...... various things. I'd kinda like one... and if I was super rich, I'd hire people to write versions of a lot of that software to run on modern Linux machines. It was just _so_ much nicer than a lot of modern stuff. Like, imagine being used to driving some high-end sports car from 30 years ago, and then getting into some modern low-end car. Like, yeah, there's stuff that's fancier in the modern low-end car, and heck, it might even be more powerful or whatever, but it just doesn't have that... something... that je ne sais quoi. So, can't speak for Niko, but can say I miss being on SGI gear.
@Cyiatic
@Cyiatic 6 дней назад
Fellow Portlander, thanks for doing a video on this, for sure a top tier recommendation. Definitely looking to obtain and preserve one of these in the future. Happy to see a piece of history going to a safe and knowledgeable home :).
@realpdm
@realpdm 5 дней назад
When I worked a student worker sysadmin at the Engineering Research Center at my college I had to transport 5 of these in my car across campus. The value of computers in my truck was like 10x what my car was worth. I feel very lucky to have come up with access to machines like this from the Onyx servers to these amazing desktop machines. Fun times! Thanks for sharing.
@thepuzzlemaster64
@thepuzzlemaster64 17 дней назад
One little curiosity I've always wanted to see with these machines is how the 3D modeling software works. Especially compared to modern day Blender. I've never seen anyone try to showcase a sort of "doughnut tutorial" for these old SGI machines, so it would be cool to see how people in the 90s modeled in 3D.
@cybercat1531
@cybercat1531 15 дней назад
Well with old blender that was possible too. Before blender was very ready. Early builds of it ran on the indigo 2.
@mapesdhs597
@mapesdhs597 12 дней назад
Look up the channel Irinikus. I think he has a number of examples of using Maya, Alias, etc. on SGIs, though I thinkj various other channels do aswell. There were lots of CAD packages too of course, such as Ideas, CADDS5, ProE, CATIA, Magics, etc., but hobbyists tend to be more familiar with the animation modelling packages used for vfx, which is a shame as the same suites were used for a lot of design & engineering work aswell.
@mapesdhs597
@mapesdhs597 12 дней назад
@@cybercat1531 I think the last version of Blender for IRIX was 2.45, though I normally install 2.44 as it's usefully faster.
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes 3 дня назад
Are you interested more in the software, or how it worked? Because... it depended a lot on the hardware, really. Like, running some 3D software on an Indy and running it on this machine (with the Elan3 graphics) would have been _very_ different experiences... this would have been much much more responsive. But probably still pretty slow compared to modern GPUs, thanks to 30 years of Mohr's law... At the time, though, it was impressive stuff. Maybe look for Maya 1.0 demos? That's a little later, but still. Or find making-of videos for Jurassic Park, Toy Story, etc., a lot of those will show some of the animation process -- which is much much lower quality than the eventual renders, but was usually very real-time interactive.
@thepuzzlemaster64
@thepuzzlemaster64 3 дня назад
@@DavidLindes I guess to put it simply: I want to see the software Rare/Nintendo used to create their promo art, and then do a sort of side-by-side comparison with modern day Blender. To give an example, I've seen someone do this cool video where they do a doughnut in every major version of Blender, but I want to see it done with tools that were the industry standard at the time. It just helps chart-out how much 3D software has improved over the years way more than a simple demo video or a behind-the-scenes video ever could (mostly because you don't see the limitations they had to work with), and I find it really fun to watch.
@fmphotooffice5513
@fmphotooffice5513 17 дней назад
1:51 Toward the end of analog TV stations and networks, every show segment that wasn't live, and every element in every show break was already digital and ingested to in-house storage. Everything played out of spreadsheets and dedicated TV equipment racks. These computers were part of that method.
@talbech
@talbech 3 дня назад
Worked for SGI when they acquired Alias|Wavefront and became a product specialist on their Maya project. This was groundbreaking and till this day still the biggest leap taken in 3D tech imho. I still have several old SGI's sitting in my office where my most precious one is a completely original Indy R5000 XZ. Everything down to the stress ball, cardboard cube and protective plastic is still there. I have such fond memories working for the company back when EVERYTHING was possible.
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes 3 дня назад
Ooh, which office? I was a sysadmin at Silicon Studio when it got folded in to A|W Mountain View. :)
@talbech
@talbech 3 дня назад
@@DavidLindes Was working out of several different offices in Europe. Gent, London and Copenhagen.
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes 2 дня назад
@@talbech cool cool. :)
@BsktImp
@BsktImp 17 дней назад
Only a couple of months ago I was in a nostalgic mood and reminisced using these SGI Indigo workstations for refining x-ray and neutron diffraction data to determine and visualise crystal structures of novel materials. Fun times.
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes 3 дня назад
Nice!
@jfloydsea
@jfloydsea 17 дней назад
I worked at a VR headset startup in Seattle in 1995-1997 and we had two Indigo 2s, an Onyx for engineering and an Indy as the webserver. They were prototyping the designs on them and printed using a stereolithography 3D printer. I only had a user account on the Indy, but drooled over the other systems.
@badwolfsat5
@badwolfsat5 17 дней назад
I feel your happiness when finally one gets to play with one of these. I got a chance to fix and keep for a year an O2 and an Indigo 2 with Monitors back in 1997. I was ecstatic.
@KW160
@KW160 13 дней назад
I had the reverse problem with Sync-on-Green: I came into a 21" Sun monitor in the late 90s that I wanted to run on a PC. My solution at that time was to get a Matrox Millenium II PCI card, which was one of the few mainstream PC video cards that could output sync-on-green.
@markwilliamson9199
@markwilliamson9199 13 дней назад
Ah terrific! Yes I used SGI machines and also Sun Sparc. Good times 1989 to about 2007
@MaxCarponera
@MaxCarponera 17 дней назад
Man, a certain number of years ago I worked at a research lab that used SGIs as servers and workstations. I worked at an Indigo like that. They were totally gorgeus and still are.
@kc0eks
@kc0eks 17 дней назад
That was awesome all around. Love the jurassic park connections.
@Mallaien
@Mallaien 5 дней назад
I met two kids in highschool that borrowed money from dad, bought a SGI and started a VFX company in the 1990's... I would have dreamed of having one. At the time the best I had for rendering was a 386DX and it was really slow. The brothers from school had a 486 at the time I met them. I was working with early Ray Tracing that took forever to render a single frame but was often saved as a raw Targa file. TGA was 24bit, and 24bit color wasn't something that was cheap in the early days. There really wasn't a lot of options for decent graphics, and that what made the SGI computers so nice at the time.
@elmariachi5133
@elmariachi5133 17 дней назад
All the early CGI hardware was legendary. The resulting media products can still make you laugh today xD
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes 3 дня назад
Haha, you mean like the Octane release soundtrack? ;)
@Estonian143
@Estonian143 18 дней назад
yippee my favorite niche computer youtuber grahh
@joshyfishy22
@joshyfishy22 17 дней назад
From what I can gather the red indigo2 with the weird badge at 2:04 is actually one of the early prototype designs for the Impact R10k systems. I believe that none exist nowadays sadly.
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes 3 дня назад
Ahh, yeah... that sounds highly plausible. Interesting.
@cowsgomee
@cowsgomee 15 дней назад
Love to see you play around with this absolute monster of a workstation, i have a couple SGI machines and it is loads of fun to play with :)
@squeeeb
@squeeeb 17 дней назад
SGI systems are so cool. I have an Indigo and Indy still, that a coworker gave me in 2006 (including a webcam, SGi CRT and the legendary 1600SW). It's fun to try and spot them in old movies. Aside from JP, Disclosure and Congo come to mind!
@mapesdhs597
@mapesdhs597 12 дней назад
Also Twister of course. Funny how in some movies the company name badges get covered up, while in others the hw boasting is plain to see. The most cringe though is Lost in Space, with its verbal reference to SGI near the start of the movie.
@theloldog12
@theloldog12 17 дней назад
glad to see more people talk about retro stuff like this
@absolutesadlad2297
@absolutesadlad2297 16 дней назад
6:18 i felt that anticipation during boot XD
@fudencio
@fudencio 17 дней назад
the interface and visuals of these unix'es are so great
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes 3 дня назад
Yeah, IRIX and the UIs on top of it were so much better than anything else available at the time. Heck, I think they might still be better than anything available now, in certain respects. I miss 4Dwm!
@andybratt6022
@andybratt6022 5 дней назад
i had both of those at work...running CAM software back in the day....they were awesome.
@derekkonigsberg2047
@derekkonigsberg2047 6 дней назад
I actually managed to score an R10000 IMPACT model off eBay in the summer of 2000, and ended up using it as my main desktop for a year or two. That time was a sweet spot, when these sorts of computers were old enough to be affordable on the used market, but new enough to still actually be useful as general machines. Went kinda overboard with my UNIX workstation explorations back then.
@Doctor_X
@Doctor_X 5 дней назад
this brings back memories... i worked on this and the onyx.
@KillerArcadeGames
@KillerArcadeGames 6 дней назад
This machine (or another SGI machine) was behind the making of my favorite arcade game, Killer Instinct! I remember being blown away by the graphics in that game when I first saw it.
@larryroyovitz7829
@larryroyovitz7829 17 дней назад
SGI had everyone on styling. Even their big servers were beautiful. I fell in love with SGI, when I was young and my friend was taking some graphic design courses and they used SGI O2s.
@powerdude_dk
@powerdude_dk 17 дней назад
Pretty cool to see. Thanks for the video =D
@tthankyy7856
@tthankyy7856 17 дней назад
One of the most aesthetic computers ever made
@xfloodcasual8124
@xfloodcasual8124 11 дней назад
great memories..I used these on the first spider-man film among many others..
@raccoroni.
@raccoroni. 17 дней назад
tbh idk what else i expected besides another banger :)
@4g1vn
@4g1vn 5 дней назад
Fun fact, some Land Rover dealers in the US used SGI workstations. I was doing IT contractor work at one of them in the late 2000s. I think they were Octane or O2s, I can’t remember… I just remember how floored I was knowing they spent that kind of money on their infrastructure.
@yakyakgaming1027
@yakyakgaming1027 17 дней назад
Thats the video I waited for since I saw the making of Jurassic Park as a kid
@FreihEitner
@FreihEitner 17 дней назад
My only personal experience with SGI systems was that a web hosting company I worked for in the very early 2000s hosted customer websites on them.
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes 3 дня назад
fun fact: when your core business involves doing graphics at the level SGI did it at, there was a side effect of being good at I/O in general, which... meant that SGI had core competencies that were well suited for high-end web serving (among other things). :)
@busterscrugs
@busterscrugs 17 дней назад
i have literally no use for one, but I've always wanted an SGI machine!
@mapesdhs597
@mapesdhs597 12 дней назад
3:10 - Elan is actually the middle of the pre-IMPACT stack, it's exactly half of an Extreme, the latter having twice the raster engines and twice the geometry engines (Extreme's 8 GEs giving 256 MFLOPs total). The Indigo2 Technical Report on my site has full details. Elan has 4 GEs and 1 RE. Below Elan is XZ (confusingly named) which has the same single raster engine but only 2 GEs. Here's a strange thing, by Feb 1996 the R4K/250 Indigo2 with SolidIMPACT was actually cheaper than the same config with Extreme, even though Solid was 2x faster and only used a single slot. SGI had some pretty weird pricing structures, though back then RAM was often the larger pricing component (a single 128MB kit was about 10K). Infact, at that time an Indigo2 with Extreme was priced exactly the same as XZ, though one can't tell from the price lists whether XZ referred to the half-Elan SKU or to Elan in terms of GE count. In Indy, XZ is the same as Elan in Indigo2 (4 GEs and 1 RE), while in IRIS Indigo it's also referred to as Elan, with again the 2GE version detected as XZ instead. SGI's technical and marketing names sometimes didn't align very well. 7:00 - Yikes, 5.3 is pretty old. Drop me a line if you'd like a disk with a full 6.2 or 6.5.22 install, happy to help out (just search for "SGI Ian", send an email to my Yahoo address). Note it was I who supplied the Indigo2 reviewed by LGR, likewise the Indigo2 and O2 parts sets reviewed by Gamers Nexus.
@DWatso
@DWatso 17 дней назад
What a glorious era of computing; these monster systems from this era are fantastic. I've a decent collection of Sun and HP Visualize workstations, but there is definitely a gap in the collection for some SGI's. Had a pair of Octanes many years ago but sold them when I needed space - major regret!
@littlemeg137
@littlemeg137 14 дней назад
Used to be lots of these around the Seattle area. Most were surplus from Boeing, who used them for CATIA. I used to have 4 of the purple version of the Indigo2, and still have one. Mine has an R4000 processor clocked at 250 MHz, with a then-massive 2MB of L2 cache.
@mapesdhs597
@mapesdhs597 12 дней назад
Actually R4400, but yes indeed, though the Challenge/Onyx quad boards had 4MB. Btw, nowadays the PSUs in IMPACT systems are becoming very flakey, so keep an eye on it. If you have the skills, a recap is recommended. Also, the Dallas ICs are beginning to fail aswell, but thankfully modern replacements are cheap.
@dave928
@dave928 6 дней назад
we had a couple Indigo2's on the shop floor we used for FlyThru. damn those were sweet machines.
@mapesdhs597
@mapesdhs597 6 дней назад
@@dave928 I know of a couple of vis sim places that still use them, usually for added onscreen HUD elements and suchlike. One of them is a helicopter sim (the main image generator is an Onyx2, with two Indys and two Indigo2s doing other stuff).
@birdpump
@birdpump 9 дней назад
super neat video!
@shanehebert396
@shanehebert396 17 дней назад
Yeah, we had a ton (probably several tons, actually) of SGI equipment back in the day where I worked... Probably at least a similar amount of Sun equipment.... pretty much a bunch of every model they made from the lowliest desktop to the biggest server bits of both.
@justjoe7313
@justjoe7313 19 часов назад
I've played a train/vroom game at 9:04 a lot at work as a student. We ran an SGI Indy as a web server and practicaly as a lab toy at the time :) Had a original monitor, keyboard and Polk speakers.
@KirbyZhang
@KirbyZhang 8 дней назад
everyone's focusing on how stylish these machines were. they're missing the real reason for these machines: they could do modern multiwindowed productivity work a decade before it could be done on personal computers. imagine coding, compiling, testing, looking up documentation, etc. on a DOS machine, how many steps and waiting around that would have taken. Then compare to doing that on modern UNIX using these computers. that's how the $30,000 price could be justified.
@callenmeyers
@callenmeyers 17 дней назад
Woah I wanted to buy that exact sgi I was literally looking at the ad a while back, so glad you got it. I somehow had one when I was like 9 years old and no idea what happened to it.
@fronbasal
@fronbasal 21 час назад
This was so, so dope!
@EmanuelBatista85
@EmanuelBatista85 День назад
i have couple MRI with SGI octane 1 and 2, is a new model of the Indigo. still working properly without any issues after 25 years
@jaysonspirtos7313
@jaysonspirtos7313 17 дней назад
These were fantastic workhorses. Used one while I was at CST (Color Systems Technologies) to color B&W movies and some light visual effects. Also used one as a digital coloring station (mostly CD-Rom animation) while at 7th Level. Super easy to use and didn't crash too much. A solid machine.
@mylesl2890
@mylesl2890 16 дней назад
i remember how much fun my friend and I had playing w/this when first came out.
@MrMegaManFan
@MrMegaManFan 17 дней назад
I’d love to own a SGI. Someday. Keeping it in working order might be too much of a challenge though.
@mapesdhs597
@mapesdhs597 12 дней назад
Very much depends on the system. Nowadays the most flakey (assuming one obtains a unit that has never been modified or refurbed, but somehow is still working) are IRIS Indigo, older Octanes, IMPACT Indigo2s (the PSU is the weak point in most cases) and Fuel (other issues aswell, SGI cheaped out on the design somewhat). As it happens one of the most reliable and usually still perfectly ok today is the older teal Indigo2, ie. the R4K model with pre-IMPACT graphics. I have a large number of IMPACT PSUs which need repair, but barely a handful of the non-IMPACT model. Indy will often still be ok aswell, though likely in need of a Dallas IC replacement; forums will tout the model with the Sony PSU as being better, but nowadays I suspect the opposite is the case, models with the NIDEC PSU are more likely to still be functional (due to a difference in how the fan cooling operates). Probably the most trying of systems to own (though those who do would say it's part of the appeal) are the older high end systems such as Crimson, Challenge and Onyx2. The later Onyx2/Origin systems are more reliable and parts fairly cheap. After that it can vary, the final 3000 series can be pricey, though early versions are often cheap as continued commercial demand tends to focus on the final spec models.
@soviut303
@soviut303 17 дней назад
You said SGI was aiming at the "pro-sumer" market but that would suggest professional gear that some high end consumers might want. This hardware was WAY out of the price range of even the most hardcore enthusiasts at the time and the only non-professional spaces you could find these were in universities. These were "professional" machines with a capital P.
@mapesdhs597
@mapesdhs597 12 дней назад
Very true. And when a solo pro actually did buy one, usually from an OEM like Discreet, well, they were kinda treated like dirt. I know someone who spent 95K on a full Indigo2 Flint setup, the hw was delivered in several bin bags. Resellers cared far more about dealing with the big corps, as that's where the big moolah lay. An obvious opportunity for future markets missed of course.
@_RobertOnline_
@_RobertOnline_ 13 дней назад
Really cool 🤓
@glassbunnyy
@glassbunnyy 17 дней назад
this is insanely cool dude
@HalianTheProtogen
@HalianTheProtogen 15 дней назад
Happy IRIX-tan noises 😄
@andybratt6022
@andybratt6022 5 дней назад
the onyx graphics servers were beautiful
@jme36053
@jme36053 17 дней назад
Used one of these back in the day. Never got used to the GUI. It was more Mac-like in style and likely why graphic designers found them more friendly. Personally, I preferred Sun Sparc workstations as they were more intuitive.
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes 3 дня назад
Really? Wow. I bet it's just a matter of what one was used to, then, because when I went from SGI (around the early IRIX 5.3 days) to Sun (Solaris 2.3 days), I found the latter to be _awful_ to me (by comparison -- I mean, it did have its good points, too, I just missed what I'd had). (So, I went back to SGI at my first opportunity. :D) So, maybe just a familiarity thing, for us both? (Though also, I think I might be able to point to some objective things where SGI was better... but I'm biased. ;) )
@charliesretrocomputing
@charliesretrocomputing 17 дней назад
I saw an SGI Personal Iris from the late 80s at VCF East this year - It was pretty cool! Very interesting video, I'm really into old tech!
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes 3 дня назад
Did you sit on it? The PI made a pretty nice chair, as I recall. ;) (Granted, it was good for other things, too, back then!)
@charliesretrocomputing
@charliesretrocomputing 3 дня назад
@@DavidLindes well it was on a table... but it IS huge so I'm sure it would have been a decent seat 😂
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes 2 дня назад
@@charliesretrocomputing Oh... why would it be on a table? I always knew them as under-desk machines... but if you slid them out (or maybe they even had wheels? I don't recall), they made a nice stool, basically.
@charliesretrocomputing
@charliesretrocomputing 2 дня назад
@@DavidLindes There were tablecloths hanging over the edge of the table, tons of people in a crowded small space, and not much room with the chairs under the tables, that's probably why it was on top of the table... also, it's an exhibit so they probably want people to SEE the computer being presented 😂
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes 2 дня назад
@@charliesretrocomputing Ahh, I see. Fair. In my case, it was my mom's computer at work, so... the keyboard, mouse, and monitor were on the desk, and the computer was tucked away below. :)
@madmotorcyclist
@madmotorcyclist 11 дней назад
I remember working in the early 80s on an $80k Z-80 system called "Chromatics". At that time it supported 64k colors on a 640x480 resolution.
@itsgllory
@itsgllory 18 дней назад
this is sick another great video SGI INDIGO LESSS GOOOOOO
@Null_Experis
@Null_Experis 17 дней назад
Anyone with a little soldering skill can make a sync stripper and extract the sync signals from the green channel using a LM1881 chip, some 74 series logic, and a handful of passive components. People have been doing this for the PS2 for a while.
@JamalHashe
@JamalHashe 4 дня назад
This gives "Beyond 2000 show" vibes. It was a childhood technology show which used to appear on Cable Discovery Channel.
@johnszatkowski6898
@johnszatkowski6898 16 дней назад
I used this system and back in the day it was the cat's ass for a CAD designer! I was a HUGE Unix programmer at the time and these systems were TOP-O-THE-LINE but like everything times change! Today ALL CAD designers use Windows based systems as I do and there are TONS of hardware configurations available the was NOT an option then! I still miss Unix somewhat as it offered features that were "cutting-edge" back in the day that can now be done in the Windows OS platform to a degree. Does anyone remember the Sun Sparc systems of this era? I used these as well! Add-on graphic tower platforms that you could use to warm your sandwich for lunch on top of!
@mapesdhs597
@mapesdhs597 12 дней назад
Sun4, Sun10, Sparc 20, etc. seemed to be fairly common back then, at least in academia.
@johnszatkowski6898
@johnszatkowski6898 11 дней назад
@@mapesdhs597 : I also used the Sparc 10 and 20 machines! They were pretty bullet proof. I ran Uni-graphics off a mainframe back then and it is now called NX and is owned by Siemens now.
@Bunker278
@Bunker278 17 дней назад
Too early in the video to know if any of the other Nekochan folks have checked in, but I, misterdna (name chose for Hammond's DNA character in JP and Devo's "Smart Patrol"), owned an Indigo2 MaxImpact wtih 1GB RAM. The weird thing was you had to be careful about heat. My RAM modules were 128MB each, but they were double-decker SIMMs with flat-flex ribbons connecting the two halves. Absolutely insane amount of RAM, as mentioned, but still specialized even in 2005 when I bought my system. I never did get the TRAMs for my Max Impact graphics board set, but I managed to find a 100mbit Ethernet card in EISA form. I shifted my attention to my trash-find Octane2 before I could get that card working, though. -- edited for fat-keying.
@mapesdhs597
@mapesdhs597 12 дней назад
Neko checkin achieved! :D Worth noting btw SGI never officially supported 1GB when R10K Indigo2 was current, the official max was 640MB. It may well have been a heat issue, though I suppose by the time denser SIMMs came along (such as the common HP SKU), or indeed those with single-sided ICs, SGI had already moved onto Octane. Annoyingly, I never had a version of the product guide which covered R10K, mine only mentions R4K and R8K.
@flynn5474
@flynn5474 18 дней назад
this is really inspiring me to pick up an SGI Octane. ive always wanted to have one in my collection
@hackbyteDanielMitzlaff
@hackbyteDanielMitzlaff 17 дней назад
Good Old Lovely Irix 4dwm... I STILL love this gui to the universe... ;) MOTIF was a lesser blend, but still my favorite if no 4dwm is available. ;)
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes 3 дня назад
Right?!?? I so miss 4Dwm!
@MrTechfreak95
@MrTechfreak95 16 дней назад
Very cool. In my apprenticeship i got the task to remove all Hard drives from Old used PCs so they could be sold. There where also SGI Indigo 2s and SGI Octanes there. Also some SUN Ultra 2x machines. I really found them interesting, but sadly i had no monitor to connect to it. I wanted to play with that thing. I think later i found i the pile a corresponding monitor so i could boot up the Indigo 2 and wanted to play with it. but not much luck it was password locked. When i remember correctly. And i still had a task to do so not too much time to fumble around with that. :D So Thank you for that video. :)
@CarcinogenSDA
@CarcinogenSDA 16 дней назад
The OSSC would have also converted the SOG signal via the VGA port, at which point you could output via DVI or HDMI back to VGA
@danw1955
@danw1955 17 дней назад
The coolness factor of this machine is just over the top, especially considering it still works, and works well! Just the fact that you have that 'file system' interface from Jurassic Park makes it all that much better! The GUI layout looks very similar to what I have/had on a 2003 HP J6750 graphics workstation. It ran HP-UX 11.11i and used CDE (Common Desktop Environment) for the GUI. It was a bit limited, since I really didn't have any of the graphics packages for it, just the basic install of HP-UX and the CDE GUI. Later on, I switched it, and a J6000 workstation, and a RP2470/A500 server, over to Debian PA-RISC Linux, although it wasn't until just last year that I got the J6750 to actually run a Gnome GUI desktop.😉
@AgentSmith911
@AgentSmith911 17 дней назад
What do professionals use today as an equivalent? The cloud? Or maybe just a desktop computer with a 4090, a Threadripper and bunch of RAM? Or if it's in the movie industry, they just use large server farms.
@mapesdhs597
@mapesdhs597 12 дней назад
Pro vfx tends to be XEON workstations with Quadro cards, last I heard the RTX 8000 48GB being popular, because of the VRAM needed for 8K editing. Cloud tech and render farms are indeed very common, with management systems such as Alfred used to control render allocation, with render nodes (multi-XEON blades) using Centos as a cheaper alternative to Red Hat. It's the smaller companies that are more likely to experiment with more prosumer or consumer tech like GTX cards or even desktop SKUs, because they're more flexible., The bigger the company, the harder it is to accomodate non-standard tech, because of the sheer scale of what's involved, ie. support contracts, maintenance, etc. Solo pros certainly use cheaper tech, I know a vfx guy who has a 7950X setup with two 3090s.
@serqetry
@serqetry 17 дней назад
I had one of these, got it right around the time they were slightly outdated and starting to fall behind, so they became mostly affordable. I also had the cyan one and think I had the same specs with the Elan graphics. I wish i still had it... I can't even remember what I sold it for or when exactly, but now I regret selling it. I had the big 21" granite fixed frequency monitor and the granite keyboard and mouse too. Damn it, why did I sell it???
@mapesdhs597
@mapesdhs597 12 дней назад
I've heard that regret so many times down the years from former SGI owners, but cest la vie, as they say, always easy to kick one's own shins with a dose of hindsight. :} Thing is though, if you still had the system, or obtained one today, would you really use it?
@DE-GEN-ART
@DE-GEN-ART 17 дней назад
i used to work at a trift store and out back was a pile of old computers and monitorsand i had to smash them open with a hammer and year out the boards and wire, and there was a few SGI's, that hewit packard "corner PC" a shit ton of tandy and IBM PC's, and some NEC's, that were covered in mud and water logged and this was before i knew you can restore water dammaged computers, but i wish i would have taken at least the SGI's home with what i know now, that could have been lucrative
@Vexcenot
@Vexcenot 5 дней назад
he spared no expense
@garfleid2773
@garfleid2773 18 дней назад
HE FINALLY MADE A VIDEO ON ITTT
@PineconiumOfficial
@PineconiumOfficial 20 часов назад
The holy grail of primitive 3Dness
@timmooney7528
@timmooney7528 16 дней назад
How does this hardware compare in specs to modern hardware? It's amazing how much these go for today.
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes 3 дня назад
To modern hardware? Probably not great. But, it was ... at least a few years before a typical desktop PC could catch up to this in various ways (and on the software side, I'd argue that in some ways, nothing has yet).
@mattelder1971
@mattelder1971 17 дней назад
When I was in the Navy back in the early 1990s, I always wanted either an SGI or a NeXT.
@iRepairElectronics
@iRepairElectronics 16 дней назад
So how do you get the IREX OS for this? Or any other software for that matter. ?
@frumbert
@frumbert 17 дней назад
I only ever saw these in actual real world use in open-cut mining operations, as they ran the absolutely mammoth Gantt charts (where you plot them on A0 and join up 20+ pages, then 'walk people through it' - literally). The collage I went to had one of the SGI toasters, but nobody seemed to know how to do anything useful on it. (p.s. I'm watching this on one of those "wierd dell monitors")
@marcelwierda6262
@marcelwierda6262 17 дней назад
most simulators with militairy or scientific purpose of the time ran on SGI
@mapesdhs597
@mapesdhs597 12 дней назад
Some are still going, including a helicopter sim in OZ, mostly running on the original Onyx system though also some Onyx2s.
@Banner18MindTrip
@Banner18MindTrip День назад
I saw a few of those at the Goodwill in Sunnyvale. I should have bought them all.
@mattcintosh2
@mattcintosh2 20 часов назад
I run ran across that sync adapter in a box of random stuff a couple months ago. I had no idea what it was for. Ill be listing it on ebay when i find it
@homeforobsoletetechnology
@homeforobsoletetechnology 17 дней назад
This is f*cking awesome!
@boydpukalo8980
@boydpukalo8980 17 дней назад
I remember see a couple SGI's in the Engineering computer lab at U of M back in the day, but Sun & HP machines were much more numerous. OpenGL came from SGI GL im pretty sure. They were cool machines for sure.
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes 3 дня назад
Yes, OpenGL came from... well, Iris GL, it was called, but yeah.
@speciesofspaces
@speciesofspaces 9 дней назад
Pretty sure the graphics labs at Art Center College of Design in Pasadena CA were loaded up with these in the 90's. I also remember some theft around that time as well. The parking lot was right out the door to the second floor and the graphics lab was below that etc.
@souta95
@souta95 16 дней назад
Can't forget the Baofeng when traveling 😅
@Chalisque
@Chalisque 7 дней назад
I'm always curious what the results would be if you did a prime-seive drag race between this and the various generations of Raspberry Pi's.
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes 3 дня назад
Hah, interesting idea. I don't really know how they'd compare, but this does remind me of when Landon Kurt Noll was (sort of) a co-worker (in a different group, but in the same building, and we interacted a little)... the "co-discoverer of the 25th Mersenne prime and discoverer of the 26th", though I believe that was all before his time at SGI. I don't remember if he was still doing prime searches while there... we mostly talked about other things. :)
@robotskirts
@robotskirts 5 дней назад
The Playstation 2 (a mips machine) had an official Linux kit that also required a sync on green monitor. The easiest way to find a sog monitor, was just to buy a Sony. I think Sony made all of the SGI monitors, so the controller in all of Sony’s CRTs supported it.
@ArturaIndustries
@ArturaIndustries 17 дней назад
I love the industrial design of SGI's workstations and servers; i do actually own an late model O2 (a rm5200 system), but i may or may not have killed either the system board or cpu board or both (hopefully not though).
@mapesdhs597
@mapesdhs597 12 дней назад
Have you tried using the force-power-on jumper next to the Dallas IC? What are the power-on symptoms, if any?
@petitkus4408
@petitkus4408 14 дней назад
32MB of RAM ? Thats a life time of upgrade there
@KW160
@KW160 13 дней назад
I still have my mouse pointer customized to be colored red on my Linux box in honor of Irix.
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes 3 дня назад
Hah! Nice. :)
@Adrian-re9fh
@Adrian-re9fh 17 дней назад
Ah ah ah, you didn't say the magic word !
@gaberil
@gaberil 5 дней назад
I appreciate your astolfo figure
@sannyassi73
@sannyassi73 17 дней назад
What a neat piece of hardware! I love old hardware like this and this one is kinda special if you ask me. I wonder how the workflow for creating VFX back then on something like this went- the software to me is even more interesting than the hardware but it was mostly all proprietary stuff with huge costs and finding that stuff is likely even harder than finding the hardware to run it! I'm also curious as to how much something like this goes for these Days, I didn't catch you mention how much it costed but if you don't want to share that I get it. Really neat vid!
@mapesdhs597
@mapesdhs597 12 дней назад
The old sw is esay to obtain these days, various archive sites. Cost wise it varies greatly depending on location, but alas the supply side is not what it once was, so pricing can be a bit high at times, it varies. Probably easier if you're in the US or Canada. In Europe, atm Olmos has decent pricing on Octane2 systems. Or there's me of course, hehe, but I need to revamp my site.
@nonsuch
@nonsuch 15 дней назад
Check out the "pinch" demo. It's fun.
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