Just like guns, TVs, and tanks, we are always going to need bigger and better, around the table. I prefer a bigger buzz to view Webb images. Lost in space? No. Lost in time.
Limited intelligences can't grip the whole of something bigger then there consciousness itself lol... Such as the double slit experiment??? There's things that defy reason the way we consider things to function or behave or exist at all...
Not only her when this thing was set up and started sending pictures all those things scientist had confirmed before and specifically this everyone was as hyped as her They were all like little babies
That’s not science. Science is coming to conclusions and realizing decades later, your model was wrong all along. Just like all current models of most things are probably wrong.
@@Xio189 says someone who is definitely not a scientist and probably has little to no upper level science courses under their belt. What would you like to do instead huh?
Omg you people... The bible was clear about this. On the 7th day the bearded queer was resting and the bringer of light did his hacks on that day.. Thats why chronology is all Fuxorth and corrup.
It’s massively problematic. So many policies are created based off of these wrong things. It has to be a more we don’t know so we can’t make any certain decisions over it. The age of the universe is still unknown regardless what these egotistical wannabe monoliths say.
@@coffeetalk924 masks, vaccines, social distancing, pretty much everything. Also, what’s funny about that is they never had any science on those things to begin with and just did.
i genuinely love how astronomers get excited by every new thing they learn. they are so aware that everything they predict to be true could actually be different from what they thought, and they never claim to definitively know all the answers. they're just so hyped to discover new things
@godoftestoe7956 Want me tell her? I'm sure she would be flattered! But I haven't seen her since.....🤔 See, I'm her 14th cousin removed, and I heard she used an industrial eraser. But time heals all wounds, so no problem! 😂
As the son of scientists and a person aware of the problems of the world i can unequivocally tell you this is what happens when life and fellow humans are not viewable in a telescope.
I actually completely disagree… This is a learned behavior. Those in the know, know that, if you don’t come with this energy, you will quickly be an outsider
I remember when we discovered black holes at the center of every galaxy. It was a huge discovery and we had to revise our text books in school. This is the great thing about science, it isn't afraid of updating as new information becomes confirmed.
@isaacmoore6803 Well, here's the thing bro bro. Us bible thumpers don't need to change anything because we got it right the first time. Can't fix something that isn't broken. Why only Christians? What about Judaism, Muslims, Buddhism reincarnation, Taoism, Hinduism, Rastafari, Scientology, Science, and all the other religions that are out there? Yeah I said science, and that's because science is starting to become cult like where you ignore facts and go off of feelings
😂...the bible is not a science book even though Jesus did defy gravity. The Bible hasn't been changed since the dead sea scrolls and people are still reading it long after graduation. I bet you, once they make a bigger telescope, science books will be changed again. Until then, don't be pounding your chest too hard....
@@bobmusil1458 Yes, I would agree. And at that location where Science and Religion intersect, Mother Nature and Father Time just gave science a booster shot.
You live on a planet and if you go to another planet you're an alien. There's billions of them out there you really think there's only you. On top of that look how small you are on this planet called Earth and you can stick a million earths inside the sun. Put the sun next to the largest Star wow it disappears. And you think you know everything!
It wouldn't be possible, because at one point after the big bang, the universe was just darkness. There was no light, and nothing to see. If we have a telescope strong enough, and soon enough, we may possibly see this period of darkness
It's a paradox tho looking 10 billion light years away is looking at that planet 10 billion years ago same with them looking at us so ya sucks alot will be changed in the coming years
@@Nameentered Wrong. because mathematically speaking with how vast the universe is taken to account there is NO way there can be other life than ourselves? So you’re wrong, unless you have full blown evidence which I’m sure you don’t it continues to be a possibility. Imagine unicorns pooping rainbows? I think you’re a bit confused referencing that statement into mine.
You can see the spark of excitement, enthusiasm and passion in her eyes as she bubbled on about the subject... I think there's no doubt that this lady loves what she's doing in her work.
And while we're revising things, let's take another look at ancient earth history. Why are the rocks in Peru just like rocks all over the planet and nobody can tell us how they were formed & placed?
This is just another example of why I question everything. Even when ppl say, but it's science or math, im like idgaf, there's no way that we're so arrogant that we actually think we know everything!?
Nope just you. Personal incredulity doesn’t solve anything. You may question everything due to your ignorance. You may perceive knowledge as arrogance. You probably also perceive the earth as flat. (it’s not)
Absolutely, especially when it comes to the study of creation by people who reject and deny a Creator (Intelligent designer of an intelligent design), you must always study their study because they have a presupposed timeline that is absurdly long, as they are learning.
I wish other areas of learning wouldn't hold on so tightly to their current understanding. Rewrites are examples of learning and understanding new things. Way to go Webb!
Rewrites can also be examples of, say, authoritarianism in its many forms or other agendas wanting to amend and control a historical narrative for their own protection or benefit.
Pretty simple, at creation, everything, was fully formed. It didn’t evolve, it didn’t spin around and manufacture elements. It was ready for prime time out of the gate.
@@everettpadgett862 That's the beauty of science. When new data comes in, it is revised or changed. We don't know everything and, probably, never will. As we learn, our knowledge increases.
It seems so. It's speculation. Yet, the possibility of 5 undiscovered galaxies seems exciting. MORE OBSERVATIONS ARE NEEDED AND SOME THINGS HAVE TO BE CONFIRMED.
All this new discovery is is like knowing when someone is born, seeing how fast they grew from 4 onwards, and extrapolating that growth rate back to when they were born. Then you see baby photos and realize that they actually grew faster at the beginning than what you thought. It's not actually a huge deal.
What you have discovered is that big bangs are occurring all across the universe. Whenever matter enters a black hole it exits as a big bang somewhere else. These black holes eject all of the solar ingredients for the formation of a entire universe. The exit point for this ejected matter is determined by the density of dark matter in Infinity. Those Distant universes that you see were here when the Big Bang occurred in this region of the space-time continuum.
@@christopherbramwell8262 What you have discovered is that big bangs are occurring all across the universe. Whenever matter enters a black hole it exits as a big bang somewhere else. These black holes eject all of the solar ingredients for the formation of a entire universe. The exit point for this ejected matter is determined by the density of dark matter in Infinity. Those Distant universes that you see were here when the Big Bang occurred in this region of the space-time continuum.
The current explanation is that time itself is warped over distances. So if our perception of time is even wrong, perhaps it only seems like everything is flying apart.
@@britishrocklovingyank3491 DOCTORS were NOT ALLOWED to question the official narrative when it came to ALL things covid. If Doctor Fauchi said something was true then it was true according to the media and anyone saying anything different from that is a "conspiracy theorist " and a liar and should have their medical license revoked. Does that sound familiar now?
That's the beauty of science. As more discoveries are made updates and reassessments are made. Science doesn't dig in it's heels and say, "NO, I REFUSE TO BELIEEEEEEEVE!"
@@tankwfw NO real scientist ever says that they're sure that what we believe now is right and there's no chance that future discoveries could never alter that. They don't even say that about evolution or gravity or E=mc2.
They were using an assumption about the background energy of the universe (what is currently the microwave background radiation) that didn’t account for the larger energy of the earlier universe (we’ve all spread out and cooled down since then). So, basically the data was correct and the ordinary model for galaxy formation was correct but one of the assumptions the team was using to match the data with the model had to be revised (at which point the new data fit the old model).
@@Nameentered would you rather have all that money given away to temporarily elevate people economically while they waste their lives admiring pop culture? Pop culture is the real enemy. It does nothing to help anyone. That’s where your disappointment should be directed.
We are so arrogant that we think of this as something surprising. We know nothing. We just started exploring space, and in fact, havn't actually been there yet!
Space is not like a black room. It's just extremely large and relatively empty. So we can see things that are very very far away.. We can see them in many wavelengths of light. So we can know quite a lot about it.
Wow. We're constantly re-evaluating what we thought about the universe every time our technology improves. That means that the universe is a lot bigger than we originally thought 🤯
I believe in Infinity. I’m sceptical about the “big bang” theory. If these new discoveries turn out to be what they appear to be then it’s got to be infinity time and space.
@@pappi8338 if it is infinite then what we are observing is minuscule in the vastness of infinity. The fact that we see inflation could well be a wave in our part of the universe. A blip even. 🤷🏼♂️
@@myaccount6487 The universe can still be infinite with the Big Bang, and that's either with or without the Big Bang being a huge transition rather than an absolute beginning. If you throw it out entirely then you just create another huge headache of figuring out what the CMB is.
@@JustinMShaw is the CMB not just what we can see and detect using our modern day equipment? The background of the inside of a tennis ball is not the whole picture. The light beyond the CMB has not and will probably not reach us.
Truth is they have no real timeline for the formation of the universe because they don't know. If we can't see pass a point in space then we don't know the true size of the universe and what is behind the point to which we cant see
That's right. Based on what we see we can calculate the size of the observable universe. Beyond that it is going away from us faster than light, so it is impossible to receive light from it. But there's no reason to think it doesn't go on for much much further than the observable universe. This is what the scientists accept.
You still have to revised it more than 100 or more times or more to fully understand the the universe. Hubble Space Telescope, and James web Telescope is just touching a small percent from truly understanding the universe. We think we know it all but we still learning from mistakes we make from previous telescopes.
This is just a minor tweak. It doesn't change anything about what we know happened, just that it happened a little quicker at the beginning than what we previously had evidence for.
It's as though millions of students cried out at once as their wrong answers became correct too late for the grades to count, and were suddenly silenced.
Oh..We will just revise our understanding of the universe. You could just say that you don’t know how the universe was created then you wouldnt have to look like you didn’t really know in the first place.
Huh? Nobody claimed to "know" in the first place. We operate within our best models and now we're getting new information to revise said models. And I hope you don't mean a "god" when you say the universe was "created".
@@theuniversewithin74 Of course they do. Didn't you know? Apparently, science must figure out every aspect of physics with 100% accuracy on the first hypothesis otherwise it's completely invalid and should be replaced by old tomes.
@@rouninpanda6318 100% of what?? Any scientific model is a work in progress and will always remain so. We have a fairly good understanding about the coarse workings of the universe, but it'll be exciting to see what new science comes out of JWST. But as a whole we know almost nothing.
We have been revising the history of the universe since the beginning of man kind… the only thing certain about universe is all the details we know about it today will be eventually changed.
@peterkilbridge6523 So you are saying that, even though the universe is spreading out that we will never loss sight of it? I am sure scientists would love to know the physics behind your universe that is getting bigger and bigger yet will always stay in sight? Please explain, l would love to know myself
What do you mean by "end"? As in it's death? Or the edge? Our galaxy (the milky way) will last for many billions of years. So no, scientists won't see its death. And no, we've only had telescopes for 400 years, not millions. If by "end" you mean "edge" then yes, we have seen that and massively way for beyond that. We can see trillions of galaxies beyond our own. The galaxies mentioned in this video are over 13 billion light years away. Our galaxy is only about 100,000 light years across, so extremely close by comparison.
I forgot who I heard point this out, but religion and other ways of thinking based on tradition see the fact that scientific understanding changes as a sign on weakness. It's actually a sign of strength--science gives us new information, and our understanding is revised to fit the new, better information, making our picture of the world more accurate (or at least more useful).
So either: You change the age of the universe. Or: The initial big bang created a shock wave that would have accelerated locally (and would be a seperate phenomenon from expansion itself, this is a complicated set of explanations, bare with me) So this would create an expanding area that is much further away from itself, then these new galaxy were. So these galaxy being closer to each other could firm more quickly, especially being so near the original singularity. However, given that this explanation would be known already with observation of local galaxy that we've observed until now, I'd go with the former conclusion. The universe age was based on how much of the universe we could observe at the time of its calculation. We assumed that following the points of expansion backwards wed find the starting point, and that theory hasn't been disproven, at all. We just have more observed universe to throw into that calculation.
Science just tries to find the answers. They’re willing to admit when they’re wrong. Unlike other people who just ignore the horrible stuff in their books 😂
There is zero data so far from JWST to suggest that there is anything wrong with the Big Bang theory. Predictions of a few things have been found to be in error, and those predictions have many *untested* assumptions in them. We will now change our assumptions until our predictions match the data from JWST, and hope that in the process we find a rational reason for why the newer assumption works.
@@peterkilbridge6523 So you disagree with the original comment. Yet offer no reasoning or subjective commentary. Excellent job! Your opinions really stand out!
@@peterkilbridge6523A conversation ender like that is an indicator of a small mind. The original comment here has validity based on the progression from Hubble to Webb telescope.
@@robertjohnson4401 The size of the mirror determines its ability to collect more light; hence, Webb collects more light than Hubble. True. But do not neglect to point out that Webb's key advantage is its vastly greater ability to collect light in the deep red and infrared; this enables it to observe far-distant galaxies that are greatly red-shifted. My earlier comment was objecting to the claim that the size of the telescope determines "the size of the universe"; this was not well said.
@@peterkilbridge6523 When the original poster made his comment, you took it literally. He was using hyperbole. What he was stating was as our telescopes get more powerful, it has a maximum distance it can peer. That maximum distance can be considered, using hyperbole, the size of the universe (to us). Similarly, as we employ a more powerful telescope our universe "gets bigger", hence our telescope determines the size of the universe.
@@bobcooter the new discoveries have done nothing to change the age of the universe, only how quickly stars and galaxies formed in the early universe. It's quite a small change in the grand scheme of our understanding of the Universe.
That's why I HATE seeing that show called "How the Universe works" because it isn't how it works and they'll change everything they say in a year or two. Love this lady's excitement and enthusiasm about this new discovery!
Depends on what you mean by "universe" and what you meant by "guessing". Everything is a very well educated guess that is backed by experimenting, and well verified facts about how our isolated universe works to have a pretty good idea.
Tia ll the parents that supported children and those that recognized their talents and abilities, I want to thank you for raising them right, because these are the people that help answer the call to propel civilizations forward, that solve our problems, that quell our curiosity. We are humans, with that comes all our imperfections, kindness as well as cruelty. I can’t tell you how much I admire people who work in any STEM fields, myself I’m a creative person all right brain, my speciality is spotting anomalies and pattern recognition, raised by a single mother with 5 children all but one hardened intellectuals who didn’t get the support we need to be in positions where we could contribute to the greater good of all, she had no support but damn she was the hardest working mother I’ve ever met, I’m a hot mess. As they say it’s hard to climb up out of poverty, 1 step forward 2 steps back they say and boy that it isn’t wrong. Instead of having careers that would’ve made us professors, lawyers or doctors, judges we took early in life meaningless jobs just to help contribute all of split our time between work and school starting at ages 10-12 < you read that right 😞 babysitting, mowing lawns, washing cars, cleaning houses. We are 1st generation Americans born of an Immigrants Mother from Mexico who came at the age of 16 to help her family of 10 back home. Nobody loves respects and honors America and what it gave her more than my Mother. Why the long rant, well because I’m almost 60 so I’ve had much life experience to reflect on what it means to be an American, all the infighting is so hard to watch. All our children deserve the love, support and freedom this country has to offer, we must and can do better… it’s time to be kind and for the elders to share wisdom to help our youth find the way so that they can go on to help us all. 🙏
Everything we think we know will need to be revised. We always speak about the universe as if we created it. Only created the telescope that shows us a little bit more of what we can't explain.
Don't look at it as "we have to revise our understanding" look at it as "now we can revise our understanding." Because that's the point. That's why you do it. If all we find is what we expect then what's the point?
I love how we constantly find out new things that prove we are wrong but science is sooo headstrong and unwilling to accept alternatives views during the times “in between” and call anyone a conspiracy theory believers until “science” is ready to admit they were wrong! It’s so counterintuitive!
Galaxy’s are everywhere throughout the entire outer space. Galaxy’s aren’t localized into just a simple universe but are forever expansive. There is no beginning and no end to the measure and the number of galaxies.
The concept of years and light with the simplifying of what we call speed, motion. IS how the science is calculated. If all intelligent life forms that evolve or are born with inherent knowledge of traveling beyond the planet in which they originate ,if this life force needs a planet. The odds of humans at this time present, the humans that study our surrounding environment ,the odds of these calculations and formulas working for the whole scope of a universe are minimal to very low odds.
It proves it doesn't fade out it just keeps going it's not flat the universe the earth everything has always been everything will always be ..that is the faith
Yeah, she said it right they just assume now they’re getting the facts that has happened quicker than what they think pretty soon. We are gonna see them galaxies. The universe is too enormous. It’s mind blowing.
