starting old atkinson after 2 months sitting in the shed Primed the injectors press the button eventually starts A lot of smoke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I worked for Marley Tiles in the early 70's and we had a fleet of 8 wheelers with 150 Gardener engines. We would come in on a Sunday and start the whole fleet up to load ready for Monday morning. Can you imagine the smoke from 12 -14 vehicles on a cold winters morning?? Happy days!!!! Ian Sutherland
So it’s you that’s caused all this Global Warming pollution, Gardner engines were probably one of the of the worst smoke offenders amongst all diesel engines when starting from cold,it was probably due to their very low compression ratio and the lean fuel air mixture that caused it until they warmed up which during very cold weather might take you 10-15miles driving with a FULL load on before that happens. Years ago 1961-1966 we ran a fleet of ERF tractor units fitted with Gardner 150 LX and David Brown 5speed gearboxes with Kerkstall double reduction diffs fitted. Those trucks did over one million miles each at a maximum speed of 42mph and apart from services,brake relines and tyres no major parts were ever fitted,they just run and run until they were replaced with the B-Series ERFs fitted with Gardner 180s, a six speed gearbox and Eaton 2speed axles, 54mph what a difference that made to performance until the Cummins engines came along but they were very bad on fuel.
Gardner LW engines will fire up on second turn of the crankshaft in freezing temps as long as the engine is in reasonably good shape. Push up the cold start excess fuel button on the injection pump. Don't press the accelerator pedal when starting from cold as this advances the injectiion timing which can make cold starting difficult and she will fire up. Billyboy.
Thank god you didn't have to use the starting handle. We've a few old vehicles up in the yard, and that's a common sound in our yard - cranking over Leyland, Perkins, Bedford and Gardner engines in old lorries and buses. Once you aren't overheating the starter there's no harm in it. A bit of hot air down the air in take (hair dryer or heat gun) will ease the pain and stop her from becoming a drug addict!
it has always smoked bad on start up give it a run down the road and it will clear after a couple of miles i think its over fueling on tick over you get raw fuel in the exhaust will have it started over xmas i will take a new video of the raw fuel leaking from exhaust
@MultiSizzlers Once started on of these on the Handle. I was Twelve and it was 1960's. There was a traffic Jam and I was walking home, at the front of the jam was a "Showmans" Lorry he barked at me give me a hand son he put a length of rope over the handle and his pregnant wife asked me to hold it. He shouted when I say pull, Pull he had two hands on the starting handle I had two hands on the rope at first it was rock solid then it moved and the engine barked into life, The bloke grunted thanks!
What's wrong with the cold start button. I had an Atki in 1961 with a 6LW in it and even on the coldest morning I would never have to crank it that much.
My grandfather ran a one of these plus a few ERF I can remember having one of the ERF at the farm for corn cart ( sacks) The ERF was started with the crank by hand after pumping all the injectors individually before that he had ERF with solid rubber on the wheels ( before air was invented :) ) Always started no probs
Lovely old wagon, starter has been overworked and getting a bit slow. would fire up within 3 turns even in the coldest of weather if the engine wasn’t so tired.
To make it easier to start in really cold weather just blow hot air on the block, a couple of good hairdryers would do the trick. Also why not vent out those fumes with a flexy pipe, save's stinking out the cab. Nice old truck, well restored.
Obviously hasn't got a clue where the cold start is on the fuel pump as many people don't because Gardner made it impossible for it to be activated whilst driving the vehicle, once set the engine normally starts within a couple of revolutions saving a lot of wear and tear on the starter motor and ring gear but it was difficult to locate on the fuel pump on a freezing morning. I used to set it after the day's work was done ready for the morning cold start, never failed.
How do you set it? I've got a boat with a 5lw in it, smokes like hell on start up and has to have a squirt of ether but once warmed will work hard all day, would like to get it off the dope
@@jacko74fisher70 if i remember right,at the front end of the injector pump,you'll find a button underneath a casting that's on the end of the rack,press it upwards,and it allows the rack to open up more,increasing the fueling on starting,don't worry about the smoke they all did that when they're cold
The excess fuel/cold start trigger can be popped with the engine running. Trawlers and seine boats will pop the trigger while towing and keep the button held up with a box of matches. The big girls definately have the power to pull big nets then but not for extended periods. Its called the "Bryant and May" ( matches brand )supercharger.
I have driven a Foden 8 wheel tipper with a 180 Gardner when I was 22 I am 71 now going up any hill it could not pull the skin of a rice pudding,and you went down the box to crawler.Lorry drivers today sorry Truck drivers could not cope with them big girls want automatic nowadays.
Patricroft Fog!!! Eighty four Gardner ponies spurred to life ,typical five pot LW stinking out the yard, a proper lorry engine, not a whiny farty little Korean strimmer engine in todays modern medium weight wagons, more suited to powering a sex toy out of an ann summers catologue. Back in the Jurassic Age, as a spotty teenager i rode Spaceships Bristol MW5G,s a medium size bus from the 1950,s built like a tank ,cantankerous,noisy, smelly,and i loved them too bits. You were a proper driver , getting the best out of an overworked 5LW Spaceship loaded to the gunwales with Saturday shoppers, coaxing the old cow up one of Stroud,s many steep twisty hills,. Throttle flat to the floor , 5LW bellowing against the governor, teeth shaking,belching clouds of blue grey smoke gassing some poor motorist overtaking in his Austin 1100. An invalid scooter with a flat tyre can leave a 5LW Spaceship standing. Shitting your trousers, hoping not to stall and do the dreaded hill start,and Stroud depot mechanics can change a spaceship clutch in their sleep. Stopping altogether is another matter , lots of squealing from all four drums, you can bring a fully loaded 5LW Spaceship to a stop by standing on the brake pedal. However much you abused a 5LW ,it just chugs away without a care in the world., Spaceship driving in the Stroud Valleys is an experience never to be repeated.
I can remember quite a few of the big Atkinson's in the 60's that ran Gardner engines, & a few Foden S21's too. Many of them were short on power. Gardner's couldn't get out of their own road. The Leyland & AEC motors were far better.
