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@GrowlingSidewinder 2 года назад

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@Sr89hot 2 года назад

The engine reflection on the wing was awesome.

@syedusamamanzoor1838 2 года назад

Yeah! ED has put some serious effort in DCS 😍

@claytonanderson578 2 года назад

I came to listen to the melodic rhythm of Sven banging on the engine. Was mildly disappointed when I saw that you were in the A-4, but it'll still be a great vid! Wasn't expecting that Viggen AB heat treatment you received though. Great stuff!

@GrowlingSidewinder 2 года назад

I had to give my sven a break today, he worked hard yesterday.

@simplymax2125 2 года назад

@@GrowlingSidewinder 😂 He had a headache from all that bangin and the G-Forces lol

@bluecaptainIT 2 года назад

@@GrowlingSidewinder *Knock knock* GS: "Not today, Sven!" Sven: "Thank Odin, a break." GS: "I'll fly the Scooter today, see you in the sky." Sven: *angry CLANG noises*

@roijoi6963 2 года назад

Better have your Scooter wing check for de-tempering GS. She was feeling the heat today!

@darfsodius5141 2 года назад

That Viggen pilot must have skipped reading the manual: "No Viggen diet, no Viggen powers!"

@thefoolishhiker3103 2 года назад

I always feel bad for those poor virtual inhabitants on the ground who unexpectedly have a burning jet crashing through their roofs. Jokes aside, these are really fun to watch. Love your channel.

@woofhound1635 2 года назад

The A-4 is still surprisingly agile. Remember watching the A-4 in the Shepard scenes in The Right Stuff when I was a kid and have loved it since. There used to be a shot up A-4 on the back side of Kirtland AFB that my dad would let me climb up on to check out.

@EndTimeDreams 2 года назад

When the HMS Invincible came to New Zealand after the Falklands with Sea Harriers we did a mock attack on the carrier with our Skyhawks when it was off the coast. They never picked us up on radar or saw us coming and couldn't scramble the Harriers in time. A Sea Harrier trained on shore at Ohakea for a week with our A-4's and we got kills on the Harrier. They key is good training and good weapons, we had radar and sidewinders on our Skyhawks.

@woofhound1635 2 года назад

@@EndTimeDreams Must have been a great experience. Those little birds are so simple yet potent. Saw a single down in Tucson awhile back for restoration at $25k, if I was well off...

@axelcenal6708 2 года назад

@@EndTimeDreams The HMS Invencible has also been hit by an EXOCET missile launched from a Dagger.

@collander7766 2 года назад

I am thoroughly convinced that if the A-4 Skyhawk had an afterburner installed it would be the best fighter aircraft around today. In fact, my secret documents here confirm that the A-4 is actually just a Mirage III without AB.

@AaaBbb-ff1pn 2 года назад

@@collander7766 the a4 has a rear equilibrator, how you can compare with a pure Delta? on plus is so little that an afterburner can dry it up just after a takeoff...it simply lack the space to transform it in an interceptor. the a4 is a simple airplane for subsonic flying (the slats deploy under aerodinamics force,just think of that) with a great payload capabilities

@williamhedrick7983 2 года назад

I think the updated engine on the JA-37 “Fighter” Viggen is supposed to address compressor stalling... Can’t wait to see the dedicated “Jakt” version.

@officialusmanqureshi 2 года назад

is there a variant being made by heatblur?

@ghostviggen 2 года назад

@@officialusmanqureshi It’s probably hard to make a JA version because of its avionics. It’s much more advanced then the AJ version.

@jowenjv4463 2 года назад

To my knowledg there's no plan to make a JA. EF-2000 and A-6 are the next focus for HB it seems

@voidopal5210 2 года назад

@@officialusmanqureshi I asked them about it and they say that a lot of info is still classified, so they wont make it in close future

@TheStefanskoglund1 2 года назад

@@voidopal5210 partly at least the SkyFlash missiles and their capabilities is still classified. JA had a rather complete GCI system - GCI could provide direction data to the pilot to ensure a good intercept. The Ericsson radar's true abilities is also classified.

@samuelttvbtw 2 года назад

“That’s a R A T, T as a Tango, E, rate fight” -GS People who want to triggered GS’ OCD: “rape fight ree”

@PaPaFiggy69 2 года назад

I love how he has been correcting that alot lol

@maastomunkki Год назад

I am still hearing rake.. like some enthusiastic garden professionals when leaves start falling and the neighborhood echoes with yells of "rake fight!" 🤔

@Schnipah 2 года назад

I like how the A-4 sounds like a ‘99 Odyssey at 80 MPH when it turns hard.

@gizmophoto3577 2 года назад

Once saw the Blue Angels in A-4s over Lynchburg, VA in A-4s, circa 1980. They flew into town the day before an air show, and gave the whole town a show to be sure we knew they were there. An awesome show and we didn’t pay a cent (other than our share of taxes). Those Skyhawks are very agile, indeed.

@poppet_55 2 года назад

The reflective lighting from the afterburner on the A4 on the near collision was amazing...well done ED.

@EndTimeDreams 2 года назад

A lot of people don't realize the engine in the Viggen is basically a Skyhawk engine (J-52) It is a JT8D which is a J-52 with a bypass fan section in the front. Sweden added an afterburner

@AttiliusRex 2 года назад

Good point. Did skyhawk have similar issues with compressor stalls? Atleast earlier jet engines where very sensitive but its seldom modelled

@EndTimeDreams 2 года назад

@@AttiliusRex The engine was pretty good as I can remember. The long tail pipe on the A-4 was also an advantage, the F-16's had problems getting a lock too as I recall.

@shawnadams1965 2 года назад

first time I saw the blue angels as a kid, they were flying A-4s.

@BringTheRain 2 года назад

I love the A-4, love mid-cold war aircraft, so the A-4 against anything scratches such an itch

@roijoi6963 2 года назад

A brilliant design. Wings so short they didn't need to fold on a carrier deck, and yet able to carry more ordnance than a B-17 bomber, and it did that with only 8.5k thrust, vs Viggen's 28k. The Viggen had 7x the ROC though, so in that regard its power showed.

@TADAMAT-CZ 2 года назад

What about A-4 vs L-39? It could be quite interesting dogfight

@grummanf14tomcat40 2 года назад

Ts-11 vs l-39

@TORMotorsports 2 года назад

Any aircraft GS flies is capable of all kinds of neat and fascinating ways to beat aircraft it shouldn't.

@CuteEvie 2 года назад

The A4 is always fun, and always underestimated!

@k.dickie8972 2 года назад

The A4 biggest advantage in that fight was GS.

@ctrainugly6444 2 года назад

First ever model airplane I made was a Viggen...which has absolutely nothing to do with any of this 🤷🏻‍♂️

@FrankConforti 2 года назад

It was my first model I detailed. I wish I still had it. Gave it to girl friend’s little brother to make points with her.

@MultiSweeney1 2 года назад

FliteTest version?

@svenschwingel8632 2 года назад

That was some Volvo style second merge. It almost looked like GS would take one in the face ... again.

@concedere5566 2 года назад

You pump out so many videos so fast I love your channel keep it up

@CoolCarVideo 2 года назад

ya this channel rocks, and I love the commentary, well done. I know I use to work on NAVY Jets

@roijoi6963 2 года назад

I suspect the compressor stalls at high AoA were due to the placement of the engine intakes and lack of a pressure recovery system. The chin intake on the Viper soaked up a lot of design hours, and kept getting shorter and shorter until it was impinging on the landing gear. Turns out the very short Viper intake was a huge advantage in the engine breathing well, especially at high AoA. It did need to grow a bit for the "Big Mouth" 50s, but even that was easier because it was so short.

@jonathanbarrell82 2 года назад

I have an afinity for the A4. NZ airforce used them for waaaaay longer than they should have but still performed very well with them internationally

@christianm1533 2 года назад

I think you make excellent content when showing how to play to your own strengths. It really shows the complexity of aerial warfare and that big numbers aren't everything.

@secularnevrosis 2 года назад

Having seen a couple of full AB takeoffs from the different types of 37's scorching the runway... Yes it might be an issue being close to the tailpipe :)

@lordsqueak 2 года назад

Sven worked hard this time around. And btw, the compressor stall was fixed for the JA37 version. Not sure if the fix eventually made it to the AJ37 version in DCS though.

@iz3508 2 года назад

In real life, the update didn't make it to any version other than the JA37, which would exclude the AJS37 version in DCS as well. Neither the AJ37 nor the AJS37 were really supposed to be used as fighters other than out of utter desperation, so I suppose it makes sense.

@willytheekid 2 года назад

"Gentlemen, this is your first hop. The jets you're flying against are smaller, faster and more maneuverable" Amazing plane!...we kiwis absolutely LOVED our Skyhawks. Kia Kaha ❤from Aotearoa/New Zealand

@gethynphillips7739 2 года назад

It’s well known that the concept of the raid fight is all about when vikings learned 1/2 circle fighting in ships. ;)

@EndTimeDreams 2 года назад

Now that's how you fly a Skyhawk good work GS. The RNZAF would be proud of you.

@GrowlingSidewinder 2 года назад

Little never hurt anyone either brother

@EndTimeDreams 2 года назад

@@GrowlingSidewinder From 1:34 onward that Viggen was toast, we had AIM-9 Sidewinders on our A-4's.

@pldaniels 2 года назад

Were those the ones that Australia sold off for a bargain or did NZ already have their own as well and just soaked up the AU surplus in addition? I missed seeing the Mirages and I believe A4's at the local base here in North QLD.

@EndTimeDreams 2 года назад

@@pldaniels New Zealand had 14 purpose built straight off the skyhawk production line in California in 1970 designated A-4K painted in the Vietnam war era south east Asia camouflage. After Australia disbanded the HMAS Melbourne aircraft carrier we bought 10 more skyhawks (A-4G) which were modified to A-4K standard. In 1986 they were all updated with F-16 avionics and radar. We had sidewinders, laser guided bombs, Maverick missiles etc.

@jorgenpersson662 2 года назад

The thing is that AJS37 Viggen is the ground attack version of Viggen. It's made for low fast ground attacks NOT dogfights. It would be a better choice to use JA37 Viggen instead which is the air dominance fighter version of Viggen with stronger engine (without engine stall) and it also has a completely different electronics with better radar and inbuilt cannon. JA37 would eat it this bird without any problem.

@bryantmarwitz3753 2 года назад

I mean both aircraft in this video are designed for ground attack. It seems like a fair comparison.

@jorgenpersson662 2 года назад

@@bryantmarwitz3753 Well... I would say that the light attack A-4 Skyhawk which weigh about half as much as Viggen is better in dogfights compered with AJS Viggen.

@bryantmarwitz3753 2 года назад

@@jorgenpersson662 Yeah. I think a more interesting comparison would be the F-105, if we had it in DCS.

@jorgenpersson662 2 года назад

@@bryantmarwitz3753 👍

@EndTimeDreams 2 года назад

JA 37 is the world's greatest high altitude interceptor. No other aircraft has locked up the SR-71 so many times and weekly during the cold war, ingenious data link system. Regards from New Zealand

@burnerjack01 2 года назад

Love the wing wag at the end. "Much disrespect." Perfect.

@brealistic3542 2 года назад

The real downfall of the Viggan is that wing loses a crap ton of energy in a turn fight ! The little Skyhawk does not.

@roijoi6963 2 года назад

Odd. At MTOW the Skyhawk has a higher wing-loading too. Hummm...

@jacobdewey2053 Год назад

@@roijoi6963 you don't dogfight at MTOW

@Weiming161998 2 года назад

That's a nice RAVE fight

@oskarh5060 2 года назад

He said grape fight, didn't he? Like getting graped in the mouth.

@SUNIT052 2 года назад

I was waiting for another GS eats his own words moment: "can hear the engine go 'bam bam'", followed by the 'bam bam' of incoming cannon rounds hitting the A4...

@TheWIldGoose27 2 года назад

Great video the pure fact that you beat him in a A-4 is just pure talent

@Touay. 2 года назад

OK, so I'm going to start calling it a rake fight, just to mess with people!

@hshanoo 2 года назад

Probably the best fight in months! Take care! :)

@702BattleBorn 2 года назад

Yo GS, Scooters for ever! Thanks for the content. Have a pleasant day. Cheers

@isaachartford1535 2 года назад

Love the A-4, thanks for the video!!

@Matterian 2 года назад

HA HA HA!! Sven kicking the engine...not...gonna...happen!! Awesome video GS! can't wait for the next one homie.

@jerrodcorey25 2 года назад

1:02 HOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

@3drocket 2 года назад

Two of my favorite aircraft. So awesome to see them go head to head like this.

@salutarydreams520 2 года назад

You should do F15 vs F/A18 dogfight. Really interested to see how the Eagle fights against a Hornet.

@tc1817 2 года назад

The A4 is capable of doing things you wouldn't expect from a dinky little aircraft like an A4. Brilliant.

@dioad1739 2 года назад

Great fight GS way to hang in there and look for mistakes by the aircraft or the pilot.

@kindasupersonic7114 2 года назад

The A-4 was also a Blue Angles aircraft as well

@andrewhogan6533 2 года назад

Phantoms, Skyhawks, Hornets, and I forget the other type

@kindasupersonic7114 2 года назад

@@andrewhogan6533 tigers, panthers, cougars, and hellcats were the first ones I believe.

@andrewhogan6533 2 года назад

@@kindasupersonic7114 never knew they flew hellcats

@kindasupersonic7114 2 года назад

@@andrewhogan6533 they started in 1946, the hellcat did it for a few years and then they transitioned to the bearcats

@andrewhogan6533 2 года назад

@@kindasupersonic7114 didn’t realize they went back that far either. I thought they started around the Korean War.

@beng7844 2 года назад

I’m a simple man. I see GS post, I click, like, and comment

@GrowlingSidewinder 2 года назад

people like you keep this channel pluggin along brother thank you

@theongothic182 2 года назад

A4 is my favorite aircraft for some reason. probably because its unique on its own way also 60's 70's aircraft

@LogieT2K 2 года назад

Love the A-4 Would be really cool to see you fly it in RNZAF colours in a future vid Great content as always GS

@lightningxx 2 года назад

That close flyby was so sick

@chrisstopher2277 2 года назад

Loved the heat effect on the A-4.

@wwclay86 2 года назад

I wanna see the F-104 mod vs the Viggen!

@Caio_Botas05 2 года назад

Viggen Wins

@imaginaseanable 2 года назад

TBF the A4 was also used in the Top Gun movie in the training dogfights.

@richardweite3502 2 года назад

Love your channel! I watch your videos all the time. I kinda wish DCS would come up with a Saab 35 Draken module, the predecessor to the Viggen. Supposedly that was a better pure fighter than the Viggen, and could even do the Cobra maneuver. Thanks again!

@roijoi6963 2 года назад

Also a design the F-16XL borrowed heavily from, in particular, its cranked-arrow wing.

@Henil71 2 года назад

Well, the Draken-drivers invented the ”cobra”, as an training method to cope with the superstall that the draken was prone to experience. Then some soviet fighter pilots saw the maneuver over the Baltic sea and started to practice it.

@rocketremity9571 2 года назад

Man i would love to see the A-4 go up against the L-39

@TheNecromancer6666 2 года назад

The A4 Was known as "Heinemanns Hot Rod" cause of its spectecular Performance. Heinemann Was the lead engineer.

@doncalypso 2 года назад

Good fight... all that stick-and-rudder work to stay alive must've been quite a workout.

@xxdarkdiamondxx2998 2 года назад

I dont think the a4 has ever won a dogfight on this channel😂😂 i was really waiting for the video title to be named the little bird that could

@zdenekoldrichmarek2867 2 года назад

Honey combe sandwhich between the stressed surface panels allows only holes to happen so you will not loose a wing very tough structure the A4 has. great air to ground tool !Be Blessed

@tr1sh2tom 2 года назад

that was one sick burn, bruh.

@avramnovorra 2 года назад

A-4 still got what it takes to give anyone a hard time.. 1:00 to 1:18 was a free Swedish do-over of your paint job 🤣🤪

@Roadstar1602 2 года назад

Next video: Today we're in the Kitty Hawk Flyer and we'll be taking on the F-22.

@Joe-ch6mu 14 дней назад

Heineman's Hotrod prevails yet again!

@Meteorslinger7.1 2 года назад

Great near collision!! A real butt puckering moment!

@angelarch5352 2 года назад

WOW! Good job little Skyhawk! :D

@cvillalobos27 2 года назад

That pass was close. Even closer to the cameras filming the combat

@nomasker1360 2 года назад

The Viggen looks badass .

@michaelmccoy5622 2 года назад

Love it when you raid fight :)

@truthseeker9454 2 года назад

Oh good, a video by Growling Singewinger!

@hitstick567 2 года назад

Another advantage of the a4 - its roll rate. If you get defensive test your bandits roll rate it a downhill vertical scissors. If you have the altitude of course

@aaronsevy4482 2 года назад

Hey GS have you thought about putting on a yearly Top Gun competition it would be cool to watch you could probably get DCS to sponsor it.

@paciorekboyz4184 2 года назад

I have always heard “rate” fight. U good. 👍

@mediocrefunkybeat 2 года назад

That was impressive.

@FuelAirSparkTime 2 года назад

Wow that was such a good grape fight

@danieldunlap4077 2 года назад

The corrosion shop is going to be pissed when you get back to base

@cloudforest4087 2 года назад

I like how I am learning dogfighting terms and tactics. I used to think that the compressor stalls was an attempt by the aircraft to combat high pressure flying; like I thought it was designed to make that noise for advantage. Will DCS use an improved Viggen?

@caleblarsen5490 2 года назад

The A-4's automatic slats are so cool.

@19580822 2 года назад

They were intended to lower takeoff and landing speeds without complex and heavy control mechanisms, but in a hard-maneuvering dogfight one could slide open causing asymmetrical lift and loss of control. For that reason, the Blue Angels had them screwed shut.

@TheNecromancer6666 2 года назад

The Viggen is a massive Airliner engine, with an added Afterburner. It has an absurd Power to weight ratio for an Aircraft that old.

@alexbuss3377 2 года назад

The A-4 is such an underrated plane. It has an insane roll rate. Very agile. And a great payload capacity and range. I can’t wait for a full fidelity Skyhawks.

@jbepsilon 2 года назад

With that kind of engagement range you gotta paint the plane with anti-flash white.

@fastfiddler1625 2 года назад

Both planes are a trip to fly.

@chasedowney3358 2 года назад

Your pronunciation is perfect, it's just people who are not acclimated to the lingo that goes along with flying and dogfighting.

@InterstellarTaco 2 года назад

The A4 is the best part about watching topgun

@moncho5080 2 года назад

scooter has left the building ..

@stinkyfungus 2 года назад

Good Job in the A4. The Fighter weapons school used the A4 to represent a low tech, subsonic fighter threat (a MiG 17 or J5) So, well done - you just used a MiG 17 analogue to kill a more advanced aircraft.

@hjalmahos 2 года назад

Don’t know if it’s possible but if the “Jas Gripen” exists in this game it would be awesome to see!

@jbs9501 2 года назад

+1 for the Scooter!!!

@memuu 2 года назад

The amount of times GS had to clarify the time of fight that goes 2 circles is probably having the oposite effect, cause I for sure aint calling it a rate fight anymore.

@stinkyfungus 2 года назад

If GS wins, I shall call it a "RAPE" fight If he loses, it'll be a "GREAT" Fight If one of the pilots gets shot in the head? I'd say that was a hit in the "GRAPE" fight. If someone pulls some magic outta their ass? I guess thats a "SNAPE" Fight. IF GS suckers him in and reverses its "BAIT" fight

@gurukn 2 года назад

GS: The downfall of the Viggen Viggen: *falling straight towards the ground. Me: oddly appropriate timing.

@griffincheng 2 года назад

Array! The A-4E-C 2.9 RC1 is just out!!!

@EndTimeDreams 2 года назад

Back in the late 90's the New Zealand Airforce sent 5 A-4's to attack an Australian F-18 base RAAF Tindal. The Australians put up 4 Hornets and we got 4 kills without any loss of skyhawks. We fought our way in and out. The A-4 is fierce in the right hands with the right equipment.

@Capt.Bains71 2 года назад

Was this pre Kahu up grade or after chap?

@watonemillion 2 года назад

A-4's were used in the movie too

@TomTinTin279 2 года назад

AYYYYYYYYYYY NICE MOVES BRO

@jesselandreth4497 2 года назад

The A-4 is a cool aircraft. My country (New Zealand) used to have a few as their only combat capable fighter from the 60s up until early 2000s when the government cancelled lease order of some replacement F-16s and then cancelled the A-4 entirely 🙄. Now we have nothing but a few helicopters and transport planes 😭

@EndTimeDreams 2 года назад

We used to clean up F-16's and F-18's quite a lot too. Especially Australian FA/-18's

@jesselandreth4497 2 года назад

@@EndTimeDreams we had some great pilots. They were all just made redundant and now even if we did get a new fleet of aircraft, we wouldn't have anyone to fly them