A Battle for the Northwest Frontier | Toledo Stories: War of 1812 in the Old Northwest | Full Film 

It is a privilege to see Dr. David Skaggs -- and hear his opinions -- in this piece. I took every class I could with him when I began my graduate work at Bowling Green State University (American Culture Studies) circa 1986. His passion for American History was contagious and inspired many of us!!!!

Just wanted to add something that wasn’t mentioned here. Tecumseh stopped the torture of the American POWs at the River Raisin by the Native Americans. American survivors praised Tecumseh for this in their personal letters they sent back home. Tecumseh then shamed the British officers for not being able to stop the massacre by their Native Allies.

I remember this subject in both High School and College. I kept taking History as an elective and when reviewing my credits for my last semester and prepping for graduation, Dr Guy, my Advisor was like, "Well look at you, ya got enough History credits for a Minor!" We both lol, neither of us expecting that at all. Majors: Journalism, Sociology Minor: History Now, After it again, Ancient History - through Yale University. Exceptional Professor. Exceptional experience. Never stop Learning. I'm 58.

I loved this. It's my favorite war to talk about. So many cool stories and interesting people. My family's original homestead is on the banks of the Sandusky River right next to Wyandot county, which was the last Indian reservation in Ohio. I feel such a connection to these stories.

What I wouldn't give to hop into a time machine and go explore the past. Of course I'd stop by Woodstock in 1969, The Grassy Knoll in Dallas in 1963, but then I'd eventually make my way towards the early days of this country. I just imagine the giant trees, stunning scenery, fresh air, and people with more charm and character than we can even imagine today. Every book was precious, every article of clothing was hand made, and every meal you ate was well-earned. I imagine the peaceful dirt roads long before noisy gas engines would forever drown out the simple sounds of nature, daily tasks, and neighborly conversation.

Ft. Miegs& the Maumee River beside it are my playground. Occasionally musket balls can still be found along the shore.

should be mandatory viewing for all students; thank you so much for uploading this

Great historical documentary

Excellent presentation! Thank you. Just subscribed.

The tippicanoe creek in indiana runs into the wabash. I live right on this little river. Damn good fishing

Being from northeast Ohio and spending most of my life on west basin at our cottage on Pelee island I have had many years to visit and explore the sites of the war of 1812. To visualize the historical important of my state in this conflict gives me a sense of pride knowing that so many historical people were standing on ground I stood on. And when I'm on the lake heading to Cedar Point. I pass through the very spot where the battle of Lake Erie took place. I look over to the monument for Commodore Perry and picture the smoke and cannons on a now, quiet and peaceful lake. Ohio is now a beautiful and peaceful place to live. But it's infancy was anything but. I do still feel remorse for the first Nations that called Ohio their home. To this day there's large regions of the state where they lived that are scarcely populated. In every account of the 1812 war we hear,. What if Brock,. But I ask, what if we, would have talked to Tecumsa and really listened The speculation is always twords the relationship with the British. But what if we would have chosen to share this land in peace? I think the outcome would have been completely different from what it is today. That's the interesting aspect of history. One subtle change can rewrite the future. Thanks for a fantastic video. Very well presented.

Thank you for a great documentary. 👍

The pages of all people's histories are soaked in blood; from ancient times, right on up to the modern day.

Great documentary. The war which preserved Canada as an independent country! God bless both kin on either side of the border. 🇨🇦🇺🇸

Informative

Great Video. History not available anyplace else, at least that I'm aware of.

Tecumseh was a great warrior, great mind and he has hearth for his people he stand for, fearless human being who give his life away in order to keep hope of freedom ...

General William T. Sherman's father admired Chief Tecumseh so much that he named his son after him. General Sherman's full name is -- William Tecumseh Sherman.

Very good

Great history

“ When I hear the mournful sound Sometimes in the water; sometimes in the fire”

Love this history! We are trying keep this history alive in our videos too! Especially Appalachian!

Wonderful & Very Educational This Video Was / Is .

Thank you for this video. So much yet to learn!

I llive on the wabsah river. In vincennes about. 1/2 mile for Harrison's house

Harrison would make such a good villain if portrayed in a modern movie.

Wish I could find some of the music used in this doc.

This is awesome and interesting! I’m a Mountain Men fan! And go to some rendezvous to live as close as I can as they did! Thank you!

Thanks for putting this together. This was quite interesting. I love Oliver Hazard Perry! Really awesome bad ass in history.

In Chillicothe Ohio they have the outdoor drama Tecumseh if you're that way that's a great great show A'ho brothers and sisters

What’s the intro song?

True enough. The more things change, the more they stay the same. Strong feelings from close to the heart, though.

I am sorry for the pain you endure. So live your life that the fear of death can never enter your heart Trouble no one about their religion; respect others in their view, and demand that they respect yours Love your life, perfect your life, beautify all things in your life. Seek to make your life long and its purpose in the service of your people. Prepare a noble death song for the day when you go over the great divide. Chief Tecumseh

and in the end no one really gains anything but a memory , nostalgia....

Let's pray for them and all people

I like this

William Henry Harrison was quite a hero and also quite a dad still fathering children into his early 70s I believe -

There was a dispute over who Tecumseh's mother was, and it has been said he was half white. I was looking up my ancestry and my 7x ggf had a daughter that was married to Pukeshinwa, Tecumseh's father. So if he was half white my ancestor is his mother, and if he's not half white, then she was his step mother. I had no idea ever until last year, and I'm 58, but according to all ancestry websites, Tecumseh has a tie my maternal grandfather, and I am proud of him.

Mawmee river great walleye fishing

Tecumseh had it right. Imagine if Americans woke up tomorrow morning and realised that no government appointee or electorate past or present could negotiate or vote away, God given individual rights?

At the of The War Of 1812, there were no winners However, there was a loser. One of he greatest shames,, and the greatest sorrows, of the history of the americas, so oft repeated, before, and since.

Amazing how Colonial America thought they were promised rights to expand into the NW Territory. I do believe there was something written into the Treaty of Ghant concerning the Sovereignty of the Native Americans, but they were excluded from the Treaty. William Harrison admired Tecumseh, but the emerging Colonial Nation of the USA desired the Territory regardless of the various Tribes. This War is very much overlooked and forgotten by many US Citizens. Although the British burned Washington, D.C., were very successful in the Central Atlantic States and dominated the High Sea, the Success of the US Naval Forces on the Great Lakes bordering Canada played a vital role in negotiations favoring the USA. Good documentary. Thank you. Watch & Enjoy.

This war is rarely ever talked about

we have a Prophetstown in Illinois :)

Change is the fabric of life. Roll with it.

Amen

A most interesting narrative would be the man-haul and manufacturer centers means of transport./labor and instruments of delivery all to have these events occur?

We used to sled down the hills at fort meigs, i don't think it's allowed anymore

I love Native American ideals. The idea that this land belongs to its children, all of us. For Tecumseh to state that he can't sell what isn't his and that the land already belongs to both the red man and the white man. In return, respect the land mother nature has given us. Such beauty and respect. What an argument. "Why not sell the air, the sea, and the earth?" Only to be rebutted with, "If you natives were one of the Same children of mother earth, than you would all be of the same tribe speaking the same language." What tiny minded thinking. Being white myself, our past is embarrassing. Even some shit today is ridiculous (that goes for all races these days though. A lot of selfishness going around and true values of significant notoriety lost. Way too materialistic as well). I don't blame Tecumseh for denouncing and rejecting those bogus treaties of the past. It's already been proven that we are not true to our word. We could all learn a lot from our Native American brothers. They are truly in touch with nature and the balance of the universe and of life.

Very interesting, when I was younger, I loved to watch the old western movies with the indians and the americans, didn't realize that the indians were taken advantage of. I now see and understand what happened. Very sad how things ended for them. Those indians were courageous people . Hooray for them. Nassau in bahamas

FIRST True heroes?????? I think not!!! God Bless Native America!

I know a guy who is a native American, his mother lives on the reservation. He lives near Gwinn, Michigan. The indians in USA were treated badly in the early part of the 18th century.

You cannot mention the victory at Fallen Timbers without mentioning Captain Richard " Shawtunte" Sparks, who was taken in Western PA in a Shawnee raid led by Pukshinwah, the war chief of the Shawnee, and the father of Tecumseh. Captain Sparks was raised from age 3 as a brother to Tecumseh, so he knew him well. Sparks was returned to the whites after the death of Pukshinwah at the battle of point pleasant in Lord Dunsmores war. He knew all of the Northwest Tribe's villages and trails. His scouting and knowledge was very significant in Gen Anthony Wayne's victory

Tippecanoe and tyler too. Alliterative campaign slogan for Harrison's presidency but it was tyler who survived.

USA: "It's our Manifest Destiny to invade Canada and reach the Arctic" The British: "Nope"

It’s very simple it’s “ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT THE LAND & STILL IS TODAY”...

Blood and Soil. Let it go my friends. There is no point in it. It is like holding a burning ember in a closed fist. it will only ever hurt. Drop it and move on towards your end. Your end that will come. Do not be used once again by devils that only grope for more. And remember, Where ever you go, There you are ;)

Tecumseh was truly the heroe of this era by far.

As a Brit who loves American history and has travelled widely in the US and Canada I find it fascinating how a nations historic myths develop over the years to become "fact". To Americans the war of 1812 wins the North West for the USA defeating the tyrannical Brits and their Native American Allies. To the Brits the war is a footnote to the Napoleonic Wars which really was a battle for survival against a real tyranny who wanted to conquer Europe. To the Canadians, the resistance by the very few British regulars, Canadians and Native Americans prevented the land hungry US from conquering what is now Canada and adding that vast territory to their own empire.

Interesting documentary but the music when used is a bit over powering and at times irritating.

The deadly embrace of European technology and the trading posts by Indian tribes is rarely talked about. Indians would compete for trading posts because a tribe that had access to tomahawks and guns had an advantage over tribes using traditional tools and weapons. The British were favored over the French often because the British tomahawks also had a pipe bowl so Indians could use it as a calumet, or ceremonial pipe. Trading posts created a dependency relationship with the trader and the country behind it. Those tribes would come under the influence of that country. So, in the French & Indian War, both Britain and France got various Indian tribes to fight for them. The Pottawatomie of Chicago area fought for the French and defeated the Iroquois a number of times. The tragedy for the Indians was that change was coming too fast, and too profoundly for them to adapt. In reading history, there was honor and deceit on both sides. But, one thing was clear - the inexorable march of technology that changed the Europeans, and the nature of their engagement with the Indians. The old Indian cultures had no chance, just as the old Celtic and Germanic cultures of Europe had no chance.

wow

Why does Tecumseh look like Andrew Jackson? No way he looked like that. Great documentary.

Re: Tecumseh. Great Warrior? Not so much. At best his tactics were standard "Injun," and he actually only fought/commanded in three battles. One was a brilliant classical ambush (Brownstown), one he fought hard, but has his a## handed to him where he took perhaps 1/3 casualties despite at least matching, but probably outnumbering his opponent (Monguagon). His last being total and utter defeat. As for his "Confederation" it was mostly a loose conglomeration of co-belligerents. One of the myths is that it was Procter's retreat from Malden that broke the Confederation. Actually it fell apart before the Battle of Lake Erie, because of internal Indian unhappiness with Tecumseh's leadership. Fought for "his people?" Well Tecumseh's "people" were the Shawnee, and well, they did not hold to well to him, and the Shawnee almost to a man sided with the Americans. Neither was he the leader of the Shawnee...although he made that claim, and that was his desire...(he was actually from a "disinherited" clan whose leadership had passed to other clans after Fallen Timbers and the Treaty of Greenville). Although he did have a more modern view of the good treatment of prisoners (one of the major issues he had with more "traditional" Indians, especially the Pottawatomie), he had no problem and made liberal use of political assassinations for years before the war of any Indian chiefs who gainsaid him, or were "pro-American." Tecumseh was great in many ways, but he was no saint, and barely competent, but would as Richard Johnson would later remark, made a good politician (in Washington, or even London).

Tecumseh was one of the greatest leaders and men of all time. Tecumseh challenged Harrison to a contest of champions between them but Harrison refused; Harrison could not have taken Tecumseh man to man.

MY FAMILY TREE IS FULL OF THIS HISTORY~ LETS WORK MY FAMILY TREE ON FINDING YOUR ROOTS SHOW !!!

Grandfather ran for 3 miles saving his life & reconnecting with other militia soldiers

God I love RU-vid. There is so much info on here and you don’t even half to read.

Battle of Fort Wm Henry Harrison, Pigeon Roost Massacre, Spurs Defeat weren't even mentioned.

We use to watch these kinda films in school

Are the ships sunk in the lakes?

Who Knew? That’s why we need these great professionals to educate those that seek out our past. 🇺🇸

Named my dog Tecumseh's Sherman, great man against impossible odds!

Randomly watched this today october 13. Also the day of queens town hieghts, weird. 22:25 in video

The Prophet was just a figurehead for Tecumseh. Tecumseh was the one having the visions and instructing the Prophet what to do. The Prophet was a legend in his own mind. His not listening to his brother Tecumseh was why they lost.

The very heavy subtitles block the picture and they don't keep up well with the dialog. Annoying and disappointing!

A myth that has been passed on, and many people still believes. Tecumseh loved the Wabash and Tippecanoe river basin very much. As the myth goes, Tecumseh said a prayer to protect the area that he loved. Therefore no tornadoes will damage the Area. The city of Lafayette is in the Wabash river valley. The myth must be wrong because the city of Lafayette, Indiana has had a few Tornadoes. Luckily no real major damage or deaths occurred.

In now Hamilton Ontario are the remnants of the original 1813 Burlington Heights earthworks. There is a smaller Plaque: From here on 07 June, 1813, 700 Regular, Militia and Indigenous in the night attacked the 3,500 American troops in their night camp at Stoney Creek. After the rought the American Army were chased back to Niagara.

Tecumseh knew that all the Indians had to all be in agreement or what had happened in his childhood would happen again. The Shawnee land was given away by treaty by another group of Indians with a mark on a piece of paper. Never again could the Shawnee regain that land, or even set foot in it …which another tribe gave away without even asking!

I love the name Tecumseh.

Chief Tecumseh was correct they were willing to share the land but not to sell because the Natives at the time did not sell anything because everything was shared no one tribe owned any land.

I have learned about the war of 1812 and this is exact

It Never Surprises me when American History says "They" are Always right and Everyone else is Wrong! 😱

I have lived almost my entire life in the area covered in this documentary. Born in Fort Wayne Indiana , relation in Battleground Indiana where Prophets town was located then moved to Toledo Ohio nearby the Fallen Timbers battlefield where Tecunseh fought but was unsuccessful . Have many times visited Fort Meigs in Perrysburg Ohio which Tecumseh and the English besieged but could not conquer and the River Raisin Battleground near Frenchtown ( now Monroe Michigan interesting also as the birthplace of Mrs. George Armstrong Custer ) where the Indians and British slaughtered the wounded Americans . In the area now named Maumee Ohio where the British had a small fort Fort Miami and where prisoners of an aborted Kentucky volunteer attempt were held and slaughtered again by Indians . This area is very rich in American History yet very few people are even aware it exists .

treaties never seem to honored .....ever

We're not all human. Most of us will never leave the grave. Copyrighted jamo509

If not for the War of 1812, we wouldn’t have hockey, Geddy Lee or maple syrup!

So Harrison got permission to to invade prophets town , but then they said they got attacked first by the Indians .... Hmmm . I'm calling bullshit lol

"Panther In the Sky"

Is it that hard to keep spoken comment and subtitles on an even tread?

The spirit of the Panther

Some of the mutilated bodies we left behind were quite young but more often children were adopted in to the tribe to replenish our numbers we lost in battle. (Also fresh blood helped avoid inbreeding) They were all innocent in so far as they didn't have much choice but swear loyalty to British but with out the British recognition of our right to our lands their presence could only mean our doom. The Mi'kmaq where not a warrior culture but for our survival we could be brutal.

Who did Tecumseh’s people conquer and take the land from?

Bugoutbrian....You do have a load to share

we're still here! lol!

Tecumseh was a great war leader and the namesake of another great war leader, William Tecumseh Sherman.

1812... The year the bankers got revenge

Fort Winchester, Auglaize River, Defiance, Ohio, 43512. Passed it just today. Of course a Family Video sits there now, but I guess that's the 21st century for ya.

LONG LIVE KANATA ( CANADA) TECUMSEH WAS THE MAIN REASON WE AS CANADIANS DEFEATED THE YANKEES.

Wow some really interesting comments here and also some frustrating dumb ones... cool documentary