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A Better Computer Fan - Sometimes: Cross-Flow Meshless AIO Case Benchmarks & Review 

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This video is exciting for us: We put some heavy work into new educational animations to explain abstract or challenging topics, like airflow through a cross-flow fan vs. axial vs. blower. The Meshless AIO mini-ITX case is a new computer case on the market with a unique thermal solution, using a cross-flow cylindrical fan rather than traditional computer fans. This can be the best fan for the job when in a cramped space, but requires the entire solution to be built ground-up around the fan. This video will go in-depth with airflow, thermals and temperature testing results, and will feature an animation to educate on how these bizarre (and relatively new, at just 131 years old) fans work. This content also provides a detailed review of the SFF (Small Form Factor) Meshless AIO case.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Revolutionary Design: Cross-Flow ITX Fan
02:41 - Specs, Price, & Build: Meshless AIO Case
04:35 - Airflow
06:47 - Schlieren "Airflow Imaging" Setup Explained
08:50 - Schlieren Results
10:28 - Cross-Flow Isn't Plug-and-Play
11:35 - HOW IT WORKS & Animation
14:51 - Testing Methodology
15:28 - THERMALS: CPU Temperature
17:02 - THERMALS: GPU Temperature
18:32 - THERMALS: RAM & VRM
19:03 - Brilliant Mechanical Design
21:15 - Positives & Negatives
24:15 - Conclusion
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Steve Burke: Writing, Testing, Host
Jeremy Clayton: Testing, Writing
Vitalii Makhnovets: Camera, Video Editing
Andrew Coleman: 3D Animation

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@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
We also have a new LIMITED CYBER SKELETON V2 FOIL SHIRT up with our mule mugs! store.gamersnexus.net/products/limited-edition-foil-cyberskeleton2-cotton-tshirt Check out our efforts to make the PERFECT CPU cooler coldplate! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7BMYsMGpyFY.html (also features animations!) Back to some normal content & reviews! But if you missed it, check out our most in-depth investigation yet: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8A7cykj0pCg.html And to check out our most recent ATX case review, you can watch this one! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aQHKCjuYTVQ.html (at least, not counting the GameMax Hype...)
Месяц назад
Whatever you do don't auction off that case.
@danstone_0001
@danstone_0001 Месяц назад
Don't forget cposs flow fan are also used in gas fireplace
@eliaskouakou7051
@eliaskouakou7051 Месяц назад
Next create a mini fridge to put the components in
@zvenlin
@zvenlin Месяц назад
so happy yo see the schlieren
@zivzulander
@zivzulander Месяц назад
Love those new animations! Hope people keep buying merch so we can one day get Gamers Nexus: The Video Game. It will be a sandbox and physics game where you try to get computers to self-immolate and solve airflow puzzles. And maybe do some investigations of poorly led companies on the side. 😁
@whenwass
@whenwass Месяц назад
I really love when product testers comes up with an experiment and elaborate visual presentation like this one. The video becomes really educational and much more interesting.
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
Thank you! We needed it internally too to better understand how it worked!
@802Garage
@802Garage Месяц назад
@@GamersNexus I love this channel!!!
@leonardosabomisseni3667
@leonardosabomisseni3667 Месяц назад
You can literally see Steve being excited to show us and being proud of what they did. Can't help but empathize lol
@LuisVelazquezLV3
@LuisVelazquezLV3 Месяц назад
yeah totally appreciate the attention to detail
@marcm.
@marcm. Месяц назад
​​@@GamersNexus I've been using this type of fans that I rescue (or repurposed fans that don't swing anymore), for a while on my rigs. I personally love them. But it does require a little work to make them do what you want. The main advantage for me, is that I don't want noise, or specifically a noise that's going to keep me awake. I'm glad that somebody has finally decided to do this also, but not as do it yourself project, rather a correctly engineered and designed product
@HCG
@HCG Месяц назад
There aren’t enough comments recognizing the ridiculous engineering feat this case is for a single designer new to building cases. They did an incredible job.
@thatguy5801
@thatguy5801 Месяц назад
Theyre using a furnace/fireplace/propane heat exchange fan, its nothing new.. When PC people realize their 120mm fans aren't the pinnacle of airflow you get comments like these below:
@HCG
@HCG Месяц назад
@@thatguy5801 Using the fan type isn’t the impressive part, obviously. I can’t believe I needed to say that. You clearly have never designed and built anything from scratch before
@thatguy5801
@thatguy5801 Месяц назад
@@HCGBecause you know me? lol This case isn't impressive or new, its a furnace/fireplace fan.
@SrApathy33
@SrApathy33 Месяц назад
@@thatguy5801 So go make one
@802Garage
@802Garage Месяц назад
@@thatguy5801 Yeah, HCG is right, you've clearly never design a product from scratch.
@Nick_Knackz
@Nick_Knackz Месяц назад
"These cross flow fans have also been used in planes, but the idea hasn't gotten off the ground." Touché' Steve. I see what you did here
@kazefw3834
@kazefw3834 Месяц назад
LMAO
@JonIceInternational
@JonIceInternational Месяц назад
That joke took off very well.
@XeroShifter
@XeroShifter Месяц назад
timed with a shot of the plane getting off the ground no less. It was pretty good :)
@toytulog576
@toytulog576 Месяц назад
It also exist on top over the range microwave. I see similar fan like this on my old GE Microwave.
@nldm561
@nldm561 Месяц назад
a child would see the joke,
@berated4541
@berated4541 Месяц назад
As an HVAC technician I have learned a few things over the years about airflow and the contraptions that move them. Cross-flow fans are designed to operate with little to no static pressure (under .5 in. W.C.) and when you do use them in a high static pressure scenarios they A, significantly reduce the amount of air they are able to move due to the vortices created from the back pressure, and B, the motors burn up prematurely due to high amp draw, created by the static pressure. Also the maintenance to clean these is far more tedious, and balancing can become a nightmare. Axial fans are nice because they can be “customized” from low to high static by changing the shape, pitch, width, and thickness of the blades. Squirrel cage fans are for use in medium to high static pressure, and is the most efficient of the the 3 in regards to moving a given volume of air.
@802Garage
@802Garage Месяц назад
Sizing the motor appropriately for a more constrained flow situation would mitigate the issue of burning the motors up though, no? They would only burn up because they are under rated for the use case.
@cheyannei5983
@cheyannei5983 Месяц назад
Dust landing on the blades also impacts balance. It's possible to make them better but soooo many of them are just designed to be as cheap as possible. This one looks so much nicer than any of them I've seen.
@cheyannei5983
@cheyannei5983 Месяц назад
I wonder if some more ducting would help this fan/case specifically
@GGigabiteM
@GGigabiteM Месяц назад
​@@802Garage No, it wouldn't. HVAC motors usually rely on the airflow they themselves create to cool themselves. Installing a larger motor to theoretically handle a higher load doesn't work when the motor still can't cool itself from restricted airflow, it will just burn up faster. More current equals more heat. That's not even accounting for the ridiculous cost of up sizing a motor, larger motors get expensive quick, and you need all of the heavier duty support equipment for them. Larger wires, larger contactors, bigger breakers and more electricity use. If the motor is subject to fault conditions of heavy restrictions, it needs circuitry to monitor it and shut it off if excessive current draw is detected.
@802Garage
@802Garage Месяц назад
@@GGigabiteM I think the term larger may be doing too much work here. A motor designed for slightly higher torque, but not necessarily much larger, would not require significantly more current to work without overheating, and obviously the cooling design would have to be taken into account as well. If it was impossible, every type of fan would burn up when obstruction was introduced.
@FluffyTheGryphon
@FluffyTheGryphon Месяц назад
Steve channeling Retro Encabulator vibes and then being self aware enough to literally add a clip from the vid had me rolling. XD
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
hahahaha
@truckerallikatuk
@truckerallikatuk Месяц назад
But no stats on the sinusoidal depleneration!
@dylanherron3963
@dylanherron3963 Месяц назад
@@truckerallikatuk Hahahaha fuck yeah
@Jake9066
@Jake9066 Месяц назад
Gotta deal with that side-fumbling some how
@danielstewart7732
@danielstewart7732 Месяц назад
@@Jake9066 pretty sure they had some hydro-coptic marsel vanes to address that.
@oscarcharliezulu
@oscarcharliezulu Месяц назад
GN’s really taking things up a notch lately. Every vid just fantastic. Especially the reference to the retro turbo encabulator.
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
Thank you! Trying to really add some polish with the animations where we can!
@WildRapier
@WildRapier Месяц назад
Indeed!
@mirrorsandstuff
@mirrorsandstuff Месяц назад
Seeing Steve excited over reviewing a case is real joy. If anything, this case at least achieved this.
@rafezetter8003
@rafezetter8003 Месяц назад
LOL ! @12:52 I was like - "ooh that's a lot of big words" - and then you totally took the piss of your own explanation with the clip after - Bravo!
@powerpower-rg7bk
@powerpower-rg7bk Месяц назад
The excitement is real. A small company doing something different that requires lots of testing and it works. We get a Rockwell Encabulator cameo and a Jay joke. Sounds like this review was fun to put together and it shows throughout the video.
@thomasr7129
@thomasr7129 Месяц назад
The editing was top notch also. Inserting animations or closeups when needed, but not too much - that is a fine art.
@charyenne
@charyenne Месяц назад
14:30 "The Idea hasn't really gotten off the ground" **airplane taking off**
@Eric_Wolfe-Schulte
@Eric_Wolfe-Schulte Месяц назад
Yeaaaahhhhhhhhhhh.gif
@TheDoubleBee
@TheDoubleBee Месяц назад
It literally has gotten off the ground 🤷‍♂
@laindump911
@laindump911 Месяц назад
you got the joke
@aserta
@aserta Месяц назад
Funnily enough, there's an airplane that uses those fans as they are to fly. AFAIK only in RC format, but it's entirely possible that some nutcase tried it for real in the 60's, i've seen a few pictures online.
@Flank.Sinatra.
@Flank.Sinatra. Месяц назад
he is right. technically it works, but so far the controls are horrible
@MrAshleyR
@MrAshleyR Месяц назад
"And in planes, but the idea hasn't really gotten off the ground" I see what you did there, and I love it. Bravo.
@de_stroyed
@de_stroyed Месяц назад
damn, that company must be so proud of the work they put into this and patting themselves on the back after seeing this video. this is basically the highest level of praise they'll ever get, especially from a highly-respected channel such as Gamer Nexus
@alexmannen1991
@alexmannen1991 Месяц назад
tech jesus makes revolutionary high quality journalism showing the flow of air by just punching a hole in a soda can there is absolutely nothing steve cant acomplish
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
Truly the highest form of engineering.
@alexmannen1991
@alexmannen1991 Месяц назад
@@GamersNexus this is the tech way of making water into wine. he turns light into content
@jubuttib
@jubuttib Месяц назад
@@alexmannen1991 Isn't that literally almost all video?
@alexmannen1991
@alexmannen1991 Месяц назад
@@jubuttib no its special when steve does it. thanks steve
@jubuttib
@jubuttib Месяц назад
@@alexmannen1991 True. Back to you, Steve.
@flexiblefelix
@flexiblefelix Месяц назад
Hey, I'm a fan of this.
@justassimple8328
@justassimple8328 Месяц назад
That's so cool that you're a fan of this
@damasterpiece08
@damasterpiece08 Месяц назад
i'm a fan of opel astra F and this looks like it fits :))
@ledizzy2634
@ledizzy2634 Месяц назад
This comment blows.
@asiatravel2010
@asiatravel2010 Месяц назад
An OnlyFan?
@What-he5pr
@What-he5pr Месяц назад
Hyuk
@interestingcan
@interestingcan Месяц назад
Aerospace engineering nerd here and a propulsion SME, deeply appreciate the Schlieren photography. This is used extensively in aviation, especially in higher mach flow to observe compression gradients, shock waves, and expansion waves in the flow. Anyways, I can guarantee that the airflow is going to be turbulent, not laminar. But turbulent flow is better for cooling across a heatsink anyways. But this is great, your lit search on the fan tech was amazing to see as an academic!!! That's always the first step lol. Fan tech can get crazy and I absolutely appreciate this case and the testing you have done.
@iCounterProductive
@iCounterProductive Месяц назад
I know I might just be able to search for this but was hoping you could elaborate on why turbulent flow is better for cooling heat sinks.
@interestingcan
@interestingcan Месяц назад
@iCounterProductive great question! So basically fluid cooling has a convection coefficient (natural and forced, natural is no fan or something moving the fluid around), essentially how much energy can be removed for the flow conditions and area. Laminar flow is smooth, so essentially the heat can get trapped in boundary layer and maybe a bit of the freestream flow. Because of this the heat stays more local and drive the coefficient down. Turbulent flow, being more energetic, has eddies and swirls and all that stuff in it so it naturally mixes as it moves across a head spreader. This mixing allows for the heat to be pulled away more easily. In addition, since laminar flow is smooth and straight residence time of the fluid on the heat spreader is at a minimum while turbulent flow has the eddies and swirling the residence time on the heat spreader is just ever so slightly greater since some flow can swirl back onto it.
@MaxwellTornado
@MaxwellTornado Месяц назад
@@interestingcan That's a lot of run-on sentences.
@ur_pore
@ur_pore 5 дней назад
@@MaxwellTornado hey hey hey, he was very clear he is a true academic.
@skipbreakfast
@skipbreakfast Месяц назад
I love it when Steve is excited about something different. This video was amazing.
@rabooey
@rabooey Месяц назад
Your air density/flow testing rig is ~ridiculous~, in the best way possible. SO very effective, so very useful. Thanks for showing us what we've always wanted to see with our own eyes, I hope to see more of it being used.👍
@carlwynia7575
@carlwynia7575 Месяц назад
If it's stupid and it works it's not that stupid.
@alpha007org
@alpha007org Месяц назад
@@carlwynia7575 If you have any friends that vape, you can imagine how you can test yourself. I wanted to know if my fans in O11 are hurting or helping, in the sense where does the airflow actually goes.
@creepersmate
@creepersmate Месяц назад
Love the animations, any show or media that involves an animation to show internals and/or how something would function thats otherwise difficult to actually demonstrate just makes it so much more interesting. Hopefully we get to see more in the future?
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
That's the plan! Any time there's an abstract or complex topic, we're hoping to include those!
@Robbie-mw5uu
@Robbie-mw5uu Месяц назад
Hit up @explainingcomputers on help with educational animations. He does them for his videos.
@thomasr7129
@thomasr7129 Месяц назад
​@@GamersNexus - Two requests: 1. Keep pushing boundaries and raising the standard for how reviews can be. I remember back in the day, findign reviews on blogs... 2. In animations, make arrows rotate axially the same way air vortices would do. And if they change size to indicate pressure change, then it would be (close to) 100%. ;) Thank you for yet another amazing video!
@mystikal43
@mystikal43 Месяц назад
I didn't think that Gamers Nexus could get any better than it already is, but you lovely people just took it to a whole new level! BEST. SHOW. EVER.
@proscriptus
@proscriptus Месяц назад
It's wonderful to see genuine innovation go from concept to production. The designer was really thinking like an engineer, and examining the effects of all of his choices. Even at the price, it feels like you're getting a lot.
@snozzmcberry2366
@snozzmcberry2366 Месяц назад
I'm not sure how to express my adoration for this channel and the whole team behind it without getting.. overly colorful to the point of cringeworthiness. The combination of bulletproof, watertight, spotless, astronomical levels of ethics & morals with the INSANE levels of testing, data gathering, analysis, and production.. it honestly makes me just a little bit emotional every time you upload and I get to watch a new one. Thank you. The tech industry is a better place for your being part of it.
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
Thank you for the kind words! We will keep pushing for this level of content!
@paxvesania2008
@paxvesania2008 Месяц назад
Steve and GN crews making investigative reports while also reviewing PC products in depths while also interviewing actual bts minds of the industry while also occasionally do on-site tours of factories. The contents are top notch. Salute.
@jfaristide
@jfaristide Месяц назад
As a certified Turbo Encabulator operator and technician, I approve of this video.
@MarioGoatse
@MarioGoatse Месяц назад
This is a fantastically designed case. The fact that one designer was able to build a case around that style of fan, and still make it interesting mechanically, and attractive, is a testament to their ability. The style of fan won’t work in any old case, but when designed for it, it’s certainly a great idea. Loved it. Great job Meshless, and great review GN Team
@adriankoch964
@adriankoch964 Месяц назад
Remember to not acidentially auction off this prototype case (potentially to a case maker) after promising to send it back after the review.
@exciting-burp6613
@exciting-burp6613 Месяц назад
"But the company is probably going bankrupt anyways"
@DeinonychusCowboy
@DeinonychusCowboy Месяц назад
oof size: eATX full tower
@snozzmcberry2366
@snozzmcberry2366 Месяц назад
Steve's barely-contained excitement over this super cool piece of tech is highly contagious
@SkywalkerOne1977
@SkywalkerOne1977 Месяц назад
I just realized how much I appreciate that GN doesn't do clickbait titles.
@854Daryl
@854Daryl Месяц назад
I really miss the case reviews. This one mostly focused on the novel use of a fan, but I was glad to see any type of case review.
@Loki_Firegod
@Loki_Firegod Месяц назад
Not finished with the video yet but I gotta give a thumbs up for the Jay-shoutout at 14:45. Very nice review so far, and a very cool design. I'm personally not that much into sff builds, but it's nice to see some people thinking (and building) outside the box (or, technically, inside the box but differently?)
@dannonyogurt98
@dannonyogurt98 Месяц назад
This is probably the 10th time he's explained schlieren imagery and I still have no idea what he's talking about. Still funny that all other RU-vidrs use a smoke machine but gamers Nexus was like "nah we need to see the air!"
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
Schlieren imagery is like magic!
@woldemunster9244
@woldemunster9244 Месяц назад
What about magnets?
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
@@woldemunster9244 We'll let you know when we figure out how they work...
@hi_tech_reptiles
@hi_tech_reptiles Месяц назад
Ask ICP lol ​@@GamersNexus
@Robbie-mw5uu
@Robbie-mw5uu Месяц назад
yes thats the joke 🤦‍♀️
@Lordwolfie59
@Lordwolfie59 Месяц назад
I know you may not see this but genuinely this is awesome. I never imagined Id be such a fan of a channel like yours because I don't do much with my PC besides use it. You make everything so entertaining yet educational its truly wonderful. Thank you for everything you and your team do!
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
Thank you! We're trying to add more educational content!
@rafezetter8003
@rafezetter8003 Месяц назад
You guys are fast becoming the most educational of home computing and related paraphenalia on YT - easy to understand, great visual aids and some fun visual science stuff - If I were a teacher of computer science / enginieering I would make watching your channel compulsory - even the journalistic stuff of "how not to be a douchebag in the industry". I rarely watch LTT anymore for these very reasons.
@WooShell
@WooShell Месяц назад
I love using radial and tangential blowers in my self-built electrics devices.. don't really understand why they are not more common in PC cases. You can so easily get a broad uniform blanket of wind with only a single motor and thus a single noise source. Glad to see that at least one designer dared to build something different..
@jack_irl
@jack_irl Месяц назад
i guess since the case and fan are purpose built to go with eachother this kind of tech and customisation would need a shift in the market for existing cooling companies to invest in new tech rather than trying to improve existing fan technology that can be paired with most common cases on the market? just my guess but yeah really cool to see stuff like this.
@cosmic_cupcake
@cosmic_cupcake Месяц назад
the motor isn't the source of the noise, the fan blades are. And my hunch is that axial fans are generally more efficient and therefore quieter than tangential blowers, though I don't have any data to back this up.
@boubpopsyteam
@boubpopsyteam Месяц назад
Back 17 years ago, we had Cooler Master STF-B01-E1 Cross Flow Fan for the magnificent Stacker case :)
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
Saw that one and included in here! Did you ever use that one? I remember seeing the Stacker but never got a chance to build in it.
@TheInfamousBob314
@TheInfamousBob314 Месяц назад
If I remember correctly the cross flow fan required removing the 4x80mm fan door - the cross flow fan is difficult to find so maybe I can adapt this one for one of my two Stackers... :D
@mateuszszymkowski4938
@mateuszszymkowski4938 Месяц назад
@@GamersNexus The first home air conditioner was created in 1910. And this is where such a fan was used for the first time. Now it is used in every air conditioner. But it's nice that someone decided to connect it to a PC
@byrondubois_za
@byrondubois_za Месяц назад
@@GamersNexus I had the Stacker 810 which has this exact same cylindrical fan design. So re=inventing the wheel literally.
@Phaevryn
@Phaevryn Месяц назад
I still have the first Coolermaster Stacker, never got that cooler but do have 2 of the hdd bays. In fact I just retired it a few months ago because it's massive and heavy af. Got a Lian Li 216 instead.
@SStrunks
@SStrunks Месяц назад
Dude WTF. Lol this is a whole new level for GN with them demonstration animations. Awesome work!
@caitlynhorne1661
@caitlynhorne1661 Месяц назад
This case is extremely cool to see! The Schlieren imaging has always been fascinating, but combined with the new animation, this is the kind of educational content that's always great to see. Props to the team!
@c0d3warrior
@c0d3warrior Месяц назад
The world needs way more well thought-out engineering like this!
@jolness1
@jolness1 Месяц назад
This is a much better review than others I’ve seen. Wouldn’t expect anything less from GN. The visualizations are awesome. Has been so cool to see the channel grow over the last decade or so that I’ve followed it
@delskorch
@delskorch Месяц назад
Everything I could ever want in a video: a SFF case, Schlieren photography and a retro encabulator cameo. Seriously great work showing how it works.
@computer1600
@computer1600 Месяц назад
The metallic sound hurts when u pull the glass panel open.... damn
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
hahaha, I felt the same. Like nails on a chalkboard!
@RossEstate
@RossEstate Месяц назад
A Part of me would put the tiniest bit of silicone lub in the rails
@jeremyschillinger917
@jeremyschillinger917 Месяц назад
Never know, might be some ASMR folks that love it. For me, I agree with SN. Nails on a chalkboard.
@Techspin
@Techspin Месяц назад
Does it.... grind your gears? Heh heh heh heh heh
@jvsimic
@jvsimic Месяц назад
"They've also been considered for aviation ... But the idea hasn't really gotten off the ground." Really, Steve?!
@ManIkWeet
@ManIkWeet Месяц назад
Within the first 2 minutes of this video it was already clear that this case was full of good engineering. The rest of the video explained why, great stuff!
@kanezhang5813
@kanezhang5813 Месяц назад
haha love the jayztwocents reference. glad you kept it in captain!
@Viewer4U
@Viewer4U Месяц назад
I have the same type of fan for a room air fan, about 40" tall. I love how quiet it is, with superior airflow over a pedestal fan.
@talon262
@talon262 Месяц назад
Vornado makes a cross-flow window fan called the Transom; I bought one off Amazon a few months ago to dump excess heat from my upstairs bedroom during cool/cold weather (my server/network "closet" is in there). Even on high, it doesn't move a huge volume of air given its size (its about 7" x 26" x 5"), but it's just fine for a low-profile fan you can just keep in the window and let it run for weeks/months at a time; they even have an Alexa-enabled version..
@slothnium
@slothnium Месяц назад
Cooler Master used to sell a cross-flow fan, called the STF-B01-E1-GP. Apparently it worked really well back in the day, cooling the entire mobo, and parts attached to it, by a noticeable amount. No idea how well it would work in this day and age, since mobo and socket area designs have improved since then.
@adriankoch964
@adriankoch964 Месяц назад
Profit margin off those cheap case fans is some of the highest of the PC hardware industry. That's why everyone who sells cases also sells their own brand of PC fans - they likely make more profit on the fans than the case (that's likely made by the same OEM as your rivals). Plus cases never come with enough fans so, go get some matching ones. It'd be incredibly risky for an established player to push for this an risk to kill their golden goose.
@Bratfalken
@Bratfalken Месяц назад
My coupé heather from the 1970ths that never fails has this kind of fan. Now it is an 240 volt heather with an selector for 0, 500, 800, 1200, and 2000 Watts. Very useful when it get's down to -35C in the winter.
@junkice6930
@junkice6930 Месяц назад
I'm probably never going to get this case (at least not any time soon), but I LOVE to see innovation and people trying new approaches to fairly uniform design. I feel like there was a period of time between 2018-2021 or so where case innovation really stalled, so seeing people and companies take an interest in this again is awesome!
@imgnku
@imgnku Месяц назад
It's like an episode of How it's made. Love it!
@ChairmanMeow1
@ChairmanMeow1 Месяц назад
The precision and attention to detail with which you do your testing is extremely commendable.
@dembro27
@dembro27 Месяц назад
I applaud Meshless trying something different! Glad to see it works well (for this specific case).
@chrisriverol9878
@chrisriverol9878 Месяц назад
This brought back memories of the pcie slot fans and the 5.25 Bay crossflow fans. Love this case design
@TheRogueWolf
@TheRogueWolf Месяц назад
"They've also been considered for aviation use inside the wings of planes, but the idea hasn't really gotten off the ground." Steve, even Jay has got to be facepalming at that dad joke.
@grievesy83
@grievesy83 Месяц назад
I'm not at all interested in ITX cases, but wow... I'm impressed. It feels like often innovation in cases means a step forward in one regard and two steps back in every other. This case looks like it meaningfully innovates without major compromise. Very, very well done.
@PatonCavaney
@PatonCavaney Месяц назад
I love how we're one upping LTT's video with useful testing & results. :) Nice hammered cups
@AOB414
@AOB414 Месяц назад
this is the kind of innovation that the itx scene sorely needs. thank you for providing the coverage
@gorkskoal9315
@gorkskoal9315 Месяц назад
^. I vaguely recall back in the day that these tube fans for rooms were heavily marketed as novelty things for living rooms, dorm rooms, and vacume cleaners of all things. It's trippy to see them show up now for computing cooling. Now I wonder why they aren't a option to help cooling, along with those weird and exotic passive coolers that have shown up from time to time. I can't imagine that having tubes, inside case panels for cooling help, would add anything to manufacturing costs. Still want fans or liquid cooling but cross fans and heat pipes to pick up slack should be a thing in SFF and full sized cases.
@WilliamReins
@WilliamReins Месяц назад
Side fumbling prevention is precisely precise.
@agentb4074
@agentb4074 Месяц назад
It's awesome to see animations from Andrew again! That fan animation is freakin' EPIC! And very effective at helping my understand and visualize this. Really nice work. 💚 Also: really fascinating case, and a good review. Thanks, GN team.
@lucasiog
@lucasiog Месяц назад
God damn, I found myself scrolling down to like the video several times while watching, one of the best videos I've seen from you guys
@SpainzTheSpazz
@SpainzTheSpazz Месяц назад
12:53 was a legendary addition to your video good sirs... well done. BRAVO!!!
@Lucas-ck1po
@Lucas-ck1po Месяц назад
I am more impressed with the manufacturing of an extruded computer case, this is fabulous! The tooling necessary to extrude such large aluminum profile is expensive, not to mention the necessary machining of the cut profile later but the result would be a dream case built like a tank. A freaking monolith of a computer with a very industrial feel to it.
@arthurmoore9488
@arthurmoore9488 Месяц назад
Yeah! As soon as he mentioned that part I completely understood every bit of the cost. Though it looks like it's extruded as a sheet, then some clever bending gets it to the final form factor. Still not easy or cheap!
@LIFEOFSTUFFEDANIMALS
@LIFEOFSTUFFEDANIMALS Месяц назад
Wow that case is impressively well thought out
@Kelekona_808
@Kelekona_808 Месяц назад
I was expecting a fan review and then you started sliding components out of the side of the case and my brain just glitched. Feels like a throw back to cases that had mobo trays slide in and out of them. Great looking case and I'm sure a lot of people will love them when they get their hands on them. Looks like some small tweaks could still be made, but man how lucky is this designer to be able to vet the product through the GN team!
@gingerbeargames
@gingerbeargames Месяц назад
I always find the little touches is what elevates a product since it shows that they've put thought in to it's use rather than just meeting a list of requirements.
@relucentsandman6447
@relucentsandman6447 Месяц назад
I have my mule mugs on the way, can't wait to stay hydrated and support quality reporting!
@henrikrasmussen7340
@henrikrasmussen7340 23 дня назад
Ah so you dont like cold drinks I see. Or perhaps its that you like burning your hands when drinking hot liquids?
@relucentsandman6447
@relucentsandman6447 22 дня назад
@@henrikrasmussen7340 I've never had of a hot Moscow Mule before but I'm sure someone has
@Dan-Simms
@Dan-Simms Месяц назад
I was hoping you would test this unique sff case. Thanks Steve!
@onsh
@onsh Месяц назад
Your testing is so thorough, complex and insightful. You guys should be proud!
@eddiehimself
@eddiehimself Месяц назад
Aluminium case with a cross flow fan? We going back to 2004 with this one!
@benjaminoechsli1941
@benjaminoechsli1941 Месяц назад
It is the nature of humanity to rediscover the wheel every so often. Nothing wrong with that, if it works!
@FalconX88
@FalconX88 Месяц назад
nice to see a positive video from GM
@kazefw3834
@kazefw3834 Месяц назад
This is hands down the most amazing and complicated package I've ever seen, and all of this is done by one single person is insane
@darthnihilus1608
@darthnihilus1608 Месяц назад
Man you guys are just the best! Always out-doing yourself. Schlieren-imaging, your chamber, and now animations?! Can't wait to see where you guys are going next
@potatoes5829
@potatoes5829 Месяц назад
ITX enthusiasts when: Really tall blower fan
@whocares0503
@whocares0503 Месяц назад
Interesting tech, the power of Fluid Mechanics...
@OrangeGenerator
@OrangeGenerator 13 дней назад
The HOW IT WORKS section was epic. Loved the music and animations and the jokes.
@draggonhedd
@draggonhedd Месяц назад
You guys always find a new way to impress with your videos, Really digging this.
@ChrisGR93_TxS
@ChrisGR93_TxS Месяц назад
my dehumidifier uses this style and its pretty quiet and airflow is kinda insane
@GreyFox474
@GreyFox474 Месяц назад
"First they take the dingle bop and they smooth it out with a bunch of schleem. The schleem is then repurposed for later batches. They take the dingle bop and they push it through the grumbo, where the fleeb is rubbed against it. It's important that the fleeb is rubbed, becasue the fleeb has all the fleeb juice. Then, a schlami shows up, and he rubs it and spits on it. They cut the fleeb. There's several hizzards in the way. The blamfs rub against the chumbles, and the plubis, and grumbo are shaved away. That leaves you with a regular old plumbus." Thats about as much as I understood in the animation. :D
@NikitaOsito
@NikitaOsito Месяц назад
I would never have expected to see a Schlieren imaging setup in a case review, but I welcome it. It is pretty fun to do, and looks cool. I think all the fan animations do a good job explaining what they need to.
@kennethbudts105
@kennethbudts105 Месяц назад
This is exactly what I am looking for, can't wait for the production release!
@N1CKSO
@N1CKSO Месяц назад
This is exactly the type of things I would design if my employer would just give me infinite paid time off LIKE I ASKED
@genotabby
@genotabby Месяц назад
Air curtain in a case. Cool!
@tradingnichols2255
@tradingnichols2255 Месяц назад
I do not think it was possible for me to enjoy air flow content more than this! (about half way through the video now) :D . Could not wait anymore to comment!
@dossphosmedia
@dossphosmedia Месяц назад
Oh man the colors and simple shapes in the 3D model plus the soft music really had a 90s PBS vibe. I love it!
@c.m.7037
@c.m.7037 Месяц назад
Give me a vertical tower version and I am in!
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
Something like the NCORE style would be interesting!
@Vegemeister1
@Vegemeister1 Месяц назад
But are you in for $350+? The small-form-factor DIY market has proven price-insensitive, and there's no way to make a from-scratch case design cheap, especially with small initial production volume.
@corviraptor
@corviraptor Месяц назад
The schlieren imaging is super appreciated, in addition to the animations. This is a fantastic video and another example of why I always come back to this channel.
@DctrGizmo
@DctrGizmo Месяц назад
The animations for the air movement through the fans were so cool! I'm looking forward to more of these!
@lucasweimanguitar7008
@lucasweimanguitar7008 Месяц назад
$360 for a case? I'm not a fan
@Slugbunny
@Slugbunny Месяц назад
Same. But it's basically an artisanal piece, so no wonder.
@su1cidity
@su1cidity Месяц назад
@@Slugbunny Woosh.
@darjanator
@darjanator Месяц назад
ITT: techbros discover AC minisplit fan technology :P
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
Hahaha, we talked about that as one of the main use cases! It's pretty cool to see something purposefully designed around it for a PC, since otherwise they just aren't focused enough normally.
@darjanator
@darjanator Месяц назад
@@GamersNexus they're a really cool design and their form factor lets them be used in certain applications where axial fans just wouldn't be very efficient. Very clever design this. Hope it turns out well. Now back to the video. Being an internet dweeb I had to post my snarky comment before watching it all. :P
@onedayatatime723
@onedayatatime723 Месяц назад
Your channel is one of my all time favourites, loving the content lately.
@paulrobertmarino7623
@paulrobertmarino7623 Месяц назад
I've wondered why we haven't seen this type of fan in cases before, thanks Steve (and you team ) for both showing this, and such a great explanation of how and why these fans work in this case and may not work in others.
@af099
@af099 Месяц назад
the new cinematography techniques being used definitely add some fun character to this channel
@TheCuttz1984
@TheCuttz1984 Месяц назад
Absolute ripper of a review. Very professional. With every aspect covered. As a SFF lover. The tech used in this case is great to see. That slide in GPU is a great idea. And the fact the case won't block the dp cables going in good also. Thanks so much for sharing. Looking forward to this case getting polished.
@paramore1014life
@paramore1014life Месяц назад
This case looks FANtastic
@KnexFour
@KnexFour Месяц назад
The animations are awesome! Keep up the great work guys!
@dougallen5734
@dougallen5734 Месяц назад
What an awesome and unique idea. Nice to see the ITX space getting so much love
@stuarth317
@stuarth317 Месяц назад
Excellent review and kudos to the designer, they look to have put much more thought into making a case that works than most well known manufacturers.
@CobraDBlade
@CobraDBlade Месяц назад
The Turbo Encabulator reference was unexpected but perfectly fit. Haven't seen that video in a while and had a good chuckle.
@lordmoose213
@lordmoose213 Месяц назад
That is the first case ive seen in a while that i would genuinely consider to be incredible looking
@aaronbrucker966
@aaronbrucker966 Месяц назад
that looks like it would make a awesome pc/heater in the winter time.
@SHINYREDBULLETS
@SHINYREDBULLETS Месяц назад
You guys just knock it out the park with your testing methodology. Love it. Would be interested in seeing that fan in a regular case, with flow guides set up ofc - hell, maybe even one top/one bottom or something crazy. Discovery requires experimentation!!
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