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A Better Way to Learn Pentatonic Scales - Stop Doing that Sh*t!!! 

Troy Stetina
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Pentatonic goes horizontal. Watch to the end and see the hidden simplicity. Visit / troystetina for more secrets.
0:00 Intro... what's the problem?
1:18 String pairs
1:47 Lowest string pair
2:53 Middle string pair
4:27 Highest string pair
4:55 Multiple benefits
5:12 A hidden order within the chaos
5:29 The four "micro" shapes!
7:18 A repeating pattern: A-B-C-D-E(B)-A
7:48 Simplifying the fretboard
8:32 Repeating structures within the boxes
8:44 Outro with badass ending groove

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1 авг 2024

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Комментарии : 119   
@TheGuitar4life
@TheGuitar4life Месяц назад
Thank you Troy! I’ve been playing on and off for 15 years and I think I learned more from this video than I have in the last several years. Just ordered your Metal Rhythm and Metal Lead I and II books. Wish I had them when I started playing!
@gsmeeuwsen
@gsmeeuwsen 2 года назад
Great video, Sir! Sounds a lot like what EVH often did... I got your "Speed Mechanics..." book and CD a long time ago, and I still use many of those licks and ideas. You're a VERY GOOD teacher!
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Thanks Greg, glad you like it 👍
@satchrules101
@satchrules101 Год назад
Another Gold lesson by the master teacher !
@bubbasouth69
@bubbasouth69 2 года назад
Listen to this guy boys & girls! This really works and will get you sounding great!
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
🤘
@daniellimamusic5150
@daniellimamusic5150 2 года назад
Great Teaching!! Thanks a lot !
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Thanks Daniel
@achimbassler
@achimbassler Год назад
Fantastic way to break out of the pentatonic rut. Thanks for sharing!
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic Год назад
My pleasure!
@tsisqua
@tsisqua 2 года назад
I've always loved the look on a student's face when they first see those box fingering patterns. I always kept the possibilities for after they had memorized the patterns . . . then brought this exact idea up; mostly to destroy their "vertical" restrictions. You've explained this SO WELL, TROY! I'll always refer new players to you, your videos, and your educational works. - Larry Roush, Retired Professor of Guitar, and creator of one of the state of Ohio's first Rock Ensembles. University Of Rio Grande (OH)
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Thanks Laramie. Yes, i agree that simple memorization of the patterns is step 1. I used to think in terms of vertical motion on individual strings, which sort of accomplishes the same thing. But came to notice that doing it in strings pairs has additional benefits. Always enjoy hearing about your experiences!
@20sword23
@20sword23 2 года назад
A car racer went into guitar playing, ivè been listening to Troy since i was in college, great teacher
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Thank you Galahad!
@NoHandle689x
@NoHandle689x 2 года назад
What a brilliant way to view the fretboard!
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Glad you find it useful😃
@mangasprai
@mangasprai 2 года назад
What a GENIUS! Super useful!
@US-USER
@US-USER 2 года назад
Thank you. Sound simple, but not always obvious and figure out for this. Thank you... for making that point so emphatically! So simple and very useful.
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
You’re welcome 😊 good luck!👍
@execontt6069
@execontt6069 2 года назад
Hi Troy! Thank you for this great lesson. I salutes you from San Luis, Argentina.
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it! all the best
@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL
@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL 2 года назад
Amazing lesson, pentatonics seem so much more accessible immediately and I love how you're think across the fretboard rather than up and down. You can use this to build licks you can place in any shape which is so cool
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Thanks Andy, all the best!
@molimba
@molimba 2 года назад
oh wow nice lesson, it never even occurred to me to practice scales horizontally instead of vertically. Seeing the pentatonic just in these few shapes also makes it a lot easier to learn.. Fantastic Troy! Thank you so much.
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Glad it was helpful!
@MarlonParong
@MarlonParong 2 года назад
I'm going to experiment on this and apply it on improvisations. Thanks again, Troy for this great tip. 👍🤘👌
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Have fun!
@program2293
@program2293 Год назад
Thanks soo much!
@cesaraugustop
@cesaraugustop Год назад
You have taught me to love more my free time, thanks Troy.
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic Год назад
You’re welcome!
@carlhansen4837
@carlhansen4837 2 года назад
This is great thank you. Often we get stuck with the usual phrasing. This helps a lot!
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
You're very welcome!
@choralriff
@choralriff 2 года назад
Nice new way to approach it. Going to give this a try.
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Let me know how it goes
@lewisbarnes
@lewisbarnes 2 года назад
Great video as always. Thanks for sharing the wisdom 🙂
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Glad it was helpful!
@Carlos-cx2nv
@Carlos-cx2nv 2 года назад
Brilliant lesson, as usual. The best video on RU-vid to learn pentatonics and improve fretboard mastering. Thank you, Troy!
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
You're welcome Carlos! glad you like it
@llorenzo385
@llorenzo385 2 года назад
@@TroyStetinaMusic hello where do you buy your DVD programs
@thantnaing2838
@thantnaing2838 2 года назад
This is what I need. Thank you, sir.
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
You're welcome
@rofertpomendia1388
@rofertpomendia1388 2 года назад
new subs. saw your post in facebook. thanks for sharing
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Thanks for the sub!
@ericchartrand8417
@ericchartrand8417 2 года назад
That's amazing. I have never looked at the penatonic scale like that before.
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Thanks Eric, yeah, it can really open things up. Good luck!
@ulusulu
@ulusulu 2 года назад
Great insight thankyou!
@joesiew6790
@joesiew6790 2 года назад
This advice along worth a million bucks, thank you sir!
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Glad it helped!
@jimbotski
@jimbotski 2 года назад
Oh wow, troy is making YT content again. You have a lot of catching up to do but it will be worth it. I still have your The Sound & Story DVD Troy. Great stuff.
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
yeah, that's the plan. Finally got the channel monetized; it's earning like $1 a day. But figure it'll grow into something over time. I've got a lot of ideas to share here
@jcsedillovlog6307
@jcsedillovlog6307 2 года назад
One of the best tutorials
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
thanks! glad you like it
@harryh212
@harryh212 2 года назад
So glad I don't have a clue about any of these boxes he's talking about and just play anywhere I want freely.
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
If you are getting the results you want, able to create the music of your soul, we'll call that a success!! "If it sounds good, it is good."🙂
@rishz7857
@rishz7857 2 года назад
I play the same way. Whatever sounds cool, "works".
@harryh212
@harryh212 2 года назад
Ignorance is bliss I suppose, maybe to your ears only but yes😊
@roshansadeghi1955
@roshansadeghi1955 2 года назад
thanks a lot it was very useful!!
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
You’re welcome!
@arnelmonino7424
@arnelmonino7424 2 года назад
Great lesson for us...
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Thanks!
@balajibala6606
@balajibala6606 2 года назад
Great information Master...
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Thanks!
@vinsakalamtv
@vinsakalamtv 2 года назад
i love the way you teach .. and i love this topic ..
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Thanks Vin! All the best...
@kempguitar6235
@kempguitar6235 2 года назад
Thanks Troy. the simplest and most effective things explained well. Luckily you are now more present here on YT. Your videos remove the junk of other YTgtr channels
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Great to hear that! thanks. Please share, as my channel is still quite small... trying to grow it finally, but it takes a lot of time and energy to do so.
@kempguitar6235
@kempguitar6235 2 года назад
@@TroyStetinaMusicYeah. I do it and I will do it. You deserve.
@ddb82
@ddb82 2 года назад
Thanks Troy, I'm really enjoying your videos. You explain things so clearly, thank you! 😎👌🤘
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
My pleasure! The clarity thing isn't easy. Takes a bit of extra time... and editing!
@yudipitre5720
@yudipitre5720 2 года назад
Very interesting gives me something to do . You are awesome Oh wow I finally got to understand the fretboard. I know now I must know the fretboard real well to be able to connect everything. I am so freaking happy 😊 I have only 2months learning from utube. I just brought my first electric guitar 🎸 😀
@TheRealKirkHammett
@TheRealKirkHammett 2 года назад
I bought your book from guitar center when I was probably 15 years old Speed mechanics for lead guitar. I remember listening to the CD of you playing "flight of the bumblebee" and thinking to myself "wow, I suck at guitar" 😂😂😂😂 It's cool being able to see your videos now days, that was many many moons ago.
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Thanks man, glad you stuck with it! With the right inspiration, goals and approach, you can do things way beyond whatever you think may be your current limits. We are often the worst evaluators of what we can ultimately achieve.
@keithruzsellereyes5211
@keithruzsellereyes5211 2 года назад
I don't wanna die so i just subscribed. This is very helpful btw, thank you!
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
🤣🤣👍
@Luis33357
@Luis33357 2 года назад
Thanks bro, it a way this reminds me of the CAGED system but for pentatonic
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Yes the boxes lay over the CAGED chord forms
@nitromeda
@nitromeda 2 года назад
Eye opening! 🤘❤
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
glad you found it helpful!
@muslimobaidullahshukhon3465
@muslimobaidullahshukhon3465 2 года назад
i know very well about the techniques.👍
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Great!
@the_releaser
@the_releaser 2 года назад
🤯 Master Troy, you blew my mind yet again. Lately I've been having so many of these Eureka moments, I love it. I had one yesterday too watching Michael Angelo Batio's live stream about pentatonics. I knew about major scales and their relative natural minors but it never occurred to me that the same applies to the pentatonic scales too. I felt like an absolute genius and a dope at the same time when I finally realised it, and for not seeing it before. And I was also one of those people who got stuck in a vertical box....until now. Now I know how to bust my way out. Thank you. P.S the solo at the end of this video is an absolute killer. Is there a more complete version of it with tabs?
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Awesome! Glad to hear you're making good progress! I've been thinking about showing that bit, as several have asked about it...
@RASTERCHANNEL
@RASTERCHANNEL 2 года назад
Thanks,For sharing Troy I'm the one your Fans God bless Full Support your Channel
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Awesome thank you!
@lelandgaunt7130
@lelandgaunt7130 2 года назад
Hey, VH 1 was ALL 98% first box of the minor pentatonic minor. No joke! Great lesson though. I used to practice a bunch of those groups with hammer ons and pull offs and SLIDES. I never paid much attention to slides until I started using it on the world's most abused slide..5th fret to 3rd fret ( D to C ) on the A string with the minor pentatonic. Hahah \m/ Keep up the killer videos!
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Thanks! Yeah box 1 got beat to death 💀!!
@abdelvegacompositor
@abdelvegacompositor Год назад
Saludos master!
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic Год назад
Hello Abdel!
@vinaymulukutla358
@vinaymulukutla358 2 года назад
It sort of sounds like that many of us by learning it all solely by boxes (not refuting the importance of studying the boxes btw), have inadvertently created road blocks/speed breakers that impede the flow of free movement between positions. Compounded by the fact that by nature, we are creatures of habit so we go down the familiar and look for those as we travel down a particular road, even if it takes us to the opposite of where we want to go. Therefore this insight from you here on this issue has clarified why it is elusive at times to get this flow between positions.
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Yeah, I don’t mean NOT to learn the boxes… presume everyone watching this video already knows that much. It’s an additional perspective that will complete the picture really, as you say
@vinaymulukutla358
@vinaymulukutla358 2 года назад
@@TroyStetinaMusic Indeed, that's not what I was taking away from your video here, nor do I wish for anyone to not learn the boxes. I just indirectly shared some of my experiences of learning the boxes but then finding difficulty to solo freely between them. Your perspective here is massively clarifying towards mastering this particular area. Thanks so much for this Troy.
@richardsrensen4219
@richardsrensen4219 2 месяца назад
i think i must subscribe to the channel i am not a metal fan but the ting you teach is can be used in bluse and Rock to
@too--late
@too--late 2 года назад
I guess that most musicians, even after exploring all these possibilities, will focus on a few patterns that work best for them 🤘. This is what we observe, even among many professional musicians.
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
That tends to be true. We all tend to play the things that we have played before... as they make "ruts" in the mind. But to stick with this is to cater to our limitations IMO. If we force ourselves out of those ruts enough, they stop being ruts... just options.
@robertcarlton1633
@robertcarlton1633 2 года назад
Hey Troy, Great lesson, as always. But, where can I get those Tee shirts? They're very clever and hilarious.
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Ha! The real secret to good playing lies in the correct T shirt selection. Actually my wife finds them all, I think just thru FB ads.
@bigquen1
@bigquen1 2 года назад
Mr. Stetina, do you have this lesson in PDF format?
@metallicblood
@metallicblood 2 года назад
I didn't learn vertical pentatonics. So how do I start the horizontal approach shown here? Still learning those vertical boxes before, right? Or how do I know which notes belong to a specific minor pentatonic? Thanks in advance :)
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
I'd say go ahead and learn the 5 boxes... first step is simple memorization. Then also begin to work on the string pair approach moving horizontally. The two will fuse together in your mind at a certain point. Just pick a key and play though all the patterns every day for like 15 minutes. Beyond that, learn songs, lick and solos. And ideally, seek to find the pentatonic patterns within the lines you are playing.
@s3bast1aannn
@s3bast1aannn 2 года назад
FB recommend me this
@AussieTerry
@AussieTerry 2 года назад
do you have the action set low on that guitar?
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Moderately low, but not the lowest
@dr.behrends9378
@dr.behrends9378 2 года назад
Damn that guitar tone is pretty juicy
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Using Diesel “herbie” amp modeling in Axe FX III.
@phillipholt6005
@phillipholt6005 2 года назад
Got a question! Are you able to play the guitar without the pent? I don't think it's possible because it has one forms in all music
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Well sure, most melodies are actually diatonic. But this tends to sound less like “licks” and more like melodies, runs and contours
@RahulPrasad-fh5fm
@RahulPrasad-fh5fm 2 года назад
Best
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
👍
@georgechristiansen6785
@georgechristiansen6785 Год назад
Learning the 5 positions is the wrong way to go in the first place. It's easy for teachers, but doesn't play out for students. Start with triads (actual playable versions; not CAGED shapes), then add the "universal" color tones (Maj:2&6/min4&b7), then the rest of the scale notes and chromatics. And learn them by key.
@balajibala6606
@balajibala6606 2 года назад
Dose this applicable to all major and minor pentatonic scales?
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
Sure, it can
@balajibala6606
@balajibala6606 2 года назад
Can you able to reveal your guitar pedals?
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
I have a pile of old pedals but these days I use Axe FX III modeler. There’s a big video I did on tone in the instructional playlist on my channel too
@x1134x
@x1134x 2 года назад
🤯
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
🎸👊😁
@oscarcaravantes3413
@oscarcaravantes3413 Месяц назад
Greta teacher
@Stringprodigy
@Stringprodigy 2 года назад
Good for picking patterns but if you're freely improvising I would just use your ears to guide you. It's the same 2 shapes repeated ad finitum.
@TroyStetinaMusic
@TroyStetinaMusic 2 года назад
To what 2 shapes are you referring?
@Stringprodigy
@Stringprodigy 2 года назад
@@TroyStetinaMusic if you play the minor pentatonic along one string, there's only 2 shapes, a minor third and a major 2nd. These shapes repeat across the fretboard. No half steppin.
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