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Agreed, revolutionary in pancrase days

Maybe because it's hard to find a gym that teaches CACC.

@@mr.strawberry872 Its hard to find a gym because its hard on the body and not profitable. The only adults that wrestle are because they coach or trying to win a world or olympic title or do exhibition styles.

It definitely is. Part of me wishes it would stay that way so less people would know about it. On the other hand, not a lot of places where you can train, including where I live.

Not alot of places to train because of the barrier to entry. You generally need a good non catch wrestling base and the guys training it in alot of cases go pretty hard. It's very off putting to most people.

@A l p h e u s St. Pete FL!

Exactly. The ones you lose are douchebags anyway.

Net gain tbh

Seriously, the only people I've ever heard complain about neck cranks in the gym and sparring are Bjj guys.......Leg locks too!

Simple tips: Knees bent and loaded up, using leg power to drive their body into you. Also, limited points of contact. If they're on their toes are on the ground and their body is on you, then their weight only has 2 places to go, and they know which way to direct it.

Oh just use the oil check

LL IS BRAZILLIAN CATCH. that's why they share a lot of similarities.

It's about time we change the name of Luta Livre to BCACC

Just don't ram it too hard. You could kill a person if you ram a person's tail bone too hard.

@@SuperRr36 not literally ramming, but just as a matter of thinking

@@SwordTune Grinding more like? I have a dirty trick in some positions where I place my knee and figuratively knee slice towards the insides of the legs (near the crotch) to pry open guard but I rarely do it cause all I have for sparring partners are my friends and neighbor so once in a blue moon its time to bully. I feel like those are the same pressure sort of technique cause I can place it to where they can't sit back sometimes as well.

@@jonathonsayre4879 Yeah I guess you can call it grinding. Just don't grind on their ass too hard or you'll have to go to HR.

@@SwordTune LMFAO

Yeah we need to go back to the no holds barred days because guys like Chuck Liddell would just circle around you and throw knees all the time.

Axe kick to the middle of the spine very good against turtle

Why do bjj guys have to be such gatekeepers? Who said the ref or "turtle" can't be incorporated. Maybe you just suck in that position, have you ever thought of that?

Yes, reminiscent of Wilber Snyder. The master of the abdominal stretch.Who remembers him?

Right ???

Yeah basically a twister with reverse leg vine

@@Kenpachi_White707 Grapevine abdominal stretch.

@@jaydaniel2145 yes indeed

@@Kenpachi_White707 indeed indeed

The Khabib way. Wrap up the legs, flatten them, smesh hard, rinse & repeat.

depends on perspective

The twister came from catch or the iron shiek to be exact.

Looks like it

@@Leonidas3888 The Grapevine Abdominal Stretch (Catch Wrestling name for that specific Abdominal stretch)

@NathanAGoss: Remember one thing. In all of Wrestling, one way to win is pin the opponent. This is why the practitioner executing the move is not on his back. Top position and control is key in Wrestling. If it were a Twister, the guy on the bottom could simply turn, bridge and pin the person on top if it were a Wrestling match to win. That goes out the window in Grappling as there is no danger of being pinned in a Grappling contest.

@@pikkon899 LOL I know Catch rules... Not to flame you, but it seems like you don't (a wrestler's guillotine is considered both a pin and a submission). I am using the term "on his back" in a general sense, not a "ruleset" sense (even though - again - someone executing a wrestler's guillotine is technically not being pinned under Catch rules....the far shoulderblade least - but often both - leaves the mat to complete the submission). This is not a catch video...it's a submission wrestling video showing a Catch technique (as opposed to a jiu jitsu technique, ex: RNC, which is illegal under some variations of Catch). My comment was meant to highlight that - although they're trying to imply this is something novel - it isn't anything special or unique......this video is the equivalent of talking up an armbar from mount like it's something different from an armbar from guard. As for you comment, I don't see what you're trying to say.

Abdominal Stretch.

​@@jaydaniel2145 is catch standarising the names of its moves a new thing in response to bjj/judo or they've always done that?

does this or would this work for street self defense?

@@fallback8314 I mean, if it's one on one you might be able to stop a fight with this but even then you shouldn't be trying to leg ride a guy in a street fight.

@@ufc990 A single-leg ride is great for self defense if you keep them on their stomach; control and see their waistline (weapons) can basically control and see their hands, can punch, elbow, grind, fish hook, ear-pull head from back and sides, can stay relatively upright to see surroundings and disengage pretty quickly if you need to (they can't grab you like in mount, side-control, or headlock, and you're not as entangled with them as you are when you are in their guard or have back control). That said, this particular move probably isn't the best for self-defense. Better to control a wrist Folkstylye/Khabib style and then punch, or pull into a Hammer-Lock. Or just Power-Half or Full-Nelson them across the pavement/concrete/dirt.

cool story bro

Well what is?

@Watson Wallace Yeah but I'm told they also banned things like leglocks.

@Watson Wallace No I am aware of that, I'm a Catch Wrestler myself. I was just talking about IBJF rules.

@Watson Wallace Mhm which is why the catch world champ just got harassed and submitted by a bjj black belt who isn't even top 100 in under two minutes right?

@Watson Wallace ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SPdlKpMUtho.html

CC button

Does it sound legal?

any spinal lock in IBJJF is illegal (except neck crancks with chockes like d'arce/brabo) and this is just twister but from top, but not all tournaments are IBJJF. ADCC i think it would be legal. ibjjf.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/RulesIBJJF_v4_en-US.pdf page 24

Soon ibjjf matches will just be staring contests

And where do you think wrestling got it? Yeah, catch wrestling which predates any modern form of wrestling (freestyle, folk style) in the US. For BJJ guys who know very little about wrestling and nothing about catch wrestling these moves are rather eye opening for them.

@@nathandye1882 I'm gonna assume you feel I'm attacking Keenan, im not but a lot of people do mix up what collegiate wrestling is and what catch wrestling is, the guillotine is a collegiate wrestling move created by Ralph Lupton in the 1920's, this move has already been brought over to bjj by eddie bravo and dubbed "the twister", also eddie cites where he got the move from "high school wrestling" and just like wrestling has a different flow from bjj, catch wrestling has a different flow from folkstyle, so yes keep your eyes open there's great stuff out there, but make sure you understand what you see and take some time to learn some history of all martial arts

@@nathandye1882 Not really haha. its also known as the twister with Eddie Bravo, 10th planet is pretty mainstream. but yeah its cool.