Shoshana Li, a descendant of the Jewish community of Kaifeng, China, recently made aliyah and married an American Jewish immigrant to Israel. The wedding was organized by the Shavei Israel organization.
Your thinking is mistaken. "In the 1980s, some descendants of Jews in Kaifeng accepted the DNA test. The test result suggests the bloodline of the Jews in Kaifeng originated from the Jewish people who lived by the Tigris and Euphrates. Moreover, their bloodline is very similar to the Armenian and Arabian Jews." (Travel China Guide) I know that they're not Ashkenazi, Sefardi, or Mizrahi, but they're still b'nei v'banot Yisra'el.
Nicole Czarnecki either way, according to Torah and history if you are a convert or descendant of converts you are mamash 100% jewish. DNA just goes to prove the point further.
Nicole Czarnercki, Ashkenazic Jews : - German Jew - Polish Jew - Dutch Jew (some) - Austrian Jew - Belgium Jew - Lithuanian Jew - Russian Jew - Kazak Jew - Ukranian Jew - Romanian Jew - Moldovian Jew - Bulgarian Jew - French Jew (Alsacians) - Czech Jew
Nicole Czarnecki are you joking ? first of all DNA test is a hoax and fake science , second they look like any other Chinese people from east Asia so the claim that these people have the same bloodline as the Jewish people who lived in Mesopotamia is really a funny joke.
Yeah the test only test to see if you have genetic relations with the ppl currently there or known to be there 200 to 400 years ago. But Israelis aren't the same as the ancient Israelites therefore this would disqualify the kafang jews from being the Ibriy people of Old...they are modern day relatives of Jewish converts and those who convert 200 to 400 yrs ago. The Bible is very clear on the ppl and how to identify them. We ignore that or don't read it. Instead we follow European doctrin Turkish Jewish fables.
Kaifeng were originally Jews living in Perisa, they migrated to Kaifeng in which they built a Synagogue and eventually mixed with local Chinese over the years
I was delighted with the story riiiight up until the groom said, "I had always wanted one!" Dude. I used to say that about Breyers Horses when I was nine. Please tell me you didn't choose to marry this woman because she was a novelty to you.
Ysobelle : you re a stupid! This man loves Asian beauty! G.od gave him what he really wanted : a Chinese Jewish wife ! BARUCH HASHEM MAZAL TOV🇮🇱🇮🇱 Wish looots of kids 😍😍😍
CHINESE JEWS , !!!!. WHAT A BLESSING. A LESSON FOR ALL OF US TO LEARN. CHRISTIANS YOU ARE OVER DUE TO COME HOME .!!. BREAK DOWN THE WALL , ONE IN YESHUA. !!.
@Fukkutah I'm afraid they didn't just pop into existence. Jews are documented to have lived in China from at least the Tang Dynasty (7th-10th cent.). The famous Jesuit Matteo Ricci was the first to reveal their existence the western world. Westerners visited this Jewish community on a regular bases from the 17th century up to the present. Many of their Judeo-Persian liturgical texts are housed in various countries around the world, including the US, Canada, and England.
I wholeheartedly agree with 'Y' below!!! I hope the groom treats the bride well and realizes that she is to be respected and is not some sort of exotic toy.
@Fukkutah 1) "Survival of the Chinese Jews" by Donald Leslie 2) "Mandarins, Jews and Missionaries" by Michael Pollak 3) "Jews in Old China" by Sidney Shapiro 4) "The Jews of Kaifeng" by Xu Xin 5) "Chinese Jews" by William Charles White, etc. These are a few of the more prominent books on the subject.
@bigred997 Although they are of Persian origin, the Kaifeng Jews followed liturgy with striking similarities to the Yemen Ritual and Maimonides' Mishneh Torah.
there are many chinese muslim in china, that is true/ reality. but chinese jews? it is only propaganda. it is about money!! There are so many american jews come to china and marrying chinese girls. Some of them are students in china, they have white skin like an european. Chinese people dont know different between Jews and european, they called them american or foreigners (have white skin). And many chinese girls love white skin people.
Needless to say, the amount of ignorance in these comments makes me feel sorry for humanity but there are some bright people still here. I wish nothing but the best for these two.
Ancient Chinese words of wisdom: 海納百川, 有容乃大 "The ocean accepts all streams. It is great because it has the CAPACITY". Please note that the "great" in this case refers more to "greatness" as in quality, not just in size (now, how's that for teaching your people to be tolerant?!) The billion-member-plus Han culture is like a vast ocean. It has absorbed -- and in turn became enriched by -- countless other cultures, including many supposed conquerors, throughout our 5,000-year history. We Chinese tend to view being "Han" as a determinant of your culture, not necessarily of your blood. That's why once the Kaifeng Jews adapted the Chinese style, they became essentially Han Chinese people in our eyes. By the way, did you know modern China is even a country of 56 different ethnic groups? Also, unlike the Europeans, religion was never a big thing to the Chinese people. We've never had a state-run religion. What you believe or don't believe in is not such a big deal.
@asrafoo You want to translate this into the language of your choice? I can't make sense of a word of it, just the general tone of hostility. Toward whom and why, i can't figure out.
I was having dinner with my wife in China years ago and asked our waiter if there were any Chinese Jews. He didn’t know and said he would have to ask around. He comes back a few mins later and tells us that he asked the chef and all the kitchen staff… they have orange Jews, apple Jews, pear Jews, even cranberry Jews, but no they don’t have any Chinese Jews.
many of them are looking forward to find it back. Ethnic minority enjoys many special rights, and there has been debates for decades now in China about whether Jewish heritage should be considered a chinese ethnic minority.
@elfenauge7 - The Rebbe said in the video she had a kosher giyur, that makes her a Jew regardless of her facial features or country of origin. Chinese, by the way is a nationality, NOT an ethnicity. Within China, there are dozens of separate ethnic groups that differentiate themselves by language, customs and religion. Hashem commanded us to love the ger. Maybe it's not in YOUR blood to follow Hashem's mitzvos.....
How wonderful! Jews, like Christians & Muslims, are a people, NOT a race! I work and live in Korea. There are observant Korean Jews in Seoul! As a Jew, I thank G-d for our diversity!
Jews are a family, a tribe where all are genetically related to each other, even after thousands of years of diaspora. The Christians and Muslims conquered lands and converted foreign peoples. The Jews did not. They accepted other individuals into the Jewish people, but never converted a population. All the Jews, Mizrahi, Romaniote, Italkim, Sephardi, Ashkenazi are the closest genetic match to each other, even though they lived in far off places from each other. Dr Harry Ostrer, the geneticist, wrote in his book on *_Legacy, A Genetic History of the Jewish People_* stated that he considers the Jews their own race. They fit the parameters.
@Indygoguy RE: "Because the American Accent he has is that of a New York University PUTZ. " You can hear Hebrew spoken in all kinds of accents in Israel, British, Mexican, French, Russian, Dutch etc...the important thing is he speaks Hebrew.
@ElisaAvigayil He has a NY/American accent in Hebrew, but his Hebrew vocab. and grammar were fine, as someone else remarked. There are plenty of Israelis who speak Hebrew with all sorts of accents from the Tefutsot, go to Israel and you can hear Hebrew spoken with heavy Russian, British, French,Argentinian, Dutch, German, Yiddish, accents, etc...the man is Israeli, he served in the IDF, his Hebrew is fine, just accented.
'Eruvin 21b specifically reads, "My son, be more careful in the words of the Scribes than in the words of the Torah, for in the laws of the Torah there are positive and negative precepts; but, as to the laws of the Scribes, whoever transgresses any of the enactments of the Scribes incurs the penalty of death." Also see Bava Metzi'ah 59. The Talmud is generally a sneaky book, though it absolutely has gems. See Jeremiah 8 as well--it prophesies the Talmud (cf. Jeremiah 8:8).
Why halacha that is 400 years old has the right to cansel a tradition much older, when it is written in talmud that tradition is higher? Chinese jews went by the father bloodline, and now rabbis will call them goyim?
My dad is of Jewish descent and my mother is Cantonese. They raised me non-religiously. I don't consider myself Jewish because my mother isn't Jewish so I put "Asian" when I am asked about my race. I think I fancy Irish-Italians.
that was a glass cup. jewish males break them right after the marriage ceremony in order to remember that even when we are supposed to be the happiest in our lives, we need to remember that our temple was destroyed and that we are incomplete without it. Both the brides and grroms mothers break a plate together earlier in the ceremony for similar reasons.
Bubbe Meiseh, it was a German custom from the 1200s. See the video on *StroumJewishSudies* RU-vid channel, titled, *_"Why Break a Glass at a Jewish Wedding? - Shalom Sabar"_*
Not really. He wants to marry with a jewish woman, to assure his children will be jews, according to the jewish law stipulating if the mother is jewish, regardless of the father's faith, the child is jewish. He likes chinese woman. So? he found a chinese woman having the same faith he does. To have a happy marriage you really must be attracted to your partner! I am very happy for him!!
The Jews of Russia and Europe fled to China during the 20th century and stayed. Many of these Jews still live there today. The Kaifeng Jews, the native Jews of China, never left and are confirmed to have been present in the land up through WWII. So, no, it is not ancient history.
Originally, Jewishness was traced through the dad, beginning with Jacob and/or Isaac, if not Abraham himself (Isaac was born a specific promise to Abraham, and there would've been no Israel without Abraham being the patriarch. Also, Eve came from Adam, so woman came from man. There are other reasons why paternity and patrilinealism--if you will--was the--so to speak--measuring stick for national/ethnic affiliation.). Then it could be traced either way (e.g.., the son of Shelomith the Danite).
Originally, God created man and women as one. Lilith was Adam's first mate. And she was created the same time Adam was. Eve was created after. There are 2 creation stories in the Torah.
@ChrisnSnoop, the rest of us are GLAD you're out of here. 7 of 8 comments in this section are from ChrisnSnoop. The 500-character limit exists for a REASON, to prevent one user from being overrepresented among the comments, not so you can just do a 3rd, 4th, 5th & so forth. There endeth the lesson.
Not really. You're probably talking about the Uigyhurs who are not content with the Chinese government's policies. If you're talking about the Huis, who are ethnic Chinese Muslims, they're living coexistingly with the mainstream Chinese community.
@rosey312 - You are right, it does sound creepy, but give the guy a break. He's excited, happy, half out of his mind with joy or wine, and the video's editor should have just fixed the dumb comment, or done a retake. i wish them happiness, love, Torah, and Jewish children. Sura
@charlotteamalie Most Chinese are Han...and Han by itself is a mixture of different ethnic groups or tribes. I am half Han and half Manchu....the Chinese officially consist of 56 ethnic groups, including Han, Manchu, Monogolian, Korean, Hmong, Tibetan, Uygur, Russian,....There are some Jews...possible some lost tribe of Israel. BTW, we Chinese never call ourselves Chinese, but the people of the Middle Kingdom...so China has nothing to do with a single ethnic group.
There are absolutely Chinese Jews , Ethiopian Jews and Indian Jews. Intermarriages in many countries scores and maybe hundreds of years ago have erased the racial boundaries of other religions too.Most Jews we know of are European or Spanish descent .Other racial features may just not be familiar to the majority of us, but it is a very big world and Judaism is a very old religion.
im a Jew and my best friend is a Korean Cristian she believes that if you dont believe in jesus you will go to hell and i dont believe that and we still get along really well were best friends so if we can get along why cant the rest of the world
Yes they are called German or Ashkenazi Jews, i have heard people described as Russian Jews, Chinese Jew, French Jews, German Jews, Moroccan Jews, etc.
@orvgg she converted excactly by the Torah so she coutns today as Jewish. they married here an Orthodox Jewish wedding, real jewish wedding. so there is no chcne he could do that with non-jewish woman.
a glass, they do that in Jewish weddings to comemorate the destruction of the temple of Jerusalem, and it symbolises what's done is done, meaning the marriage is meant to be forever.
It has nothing to do with the destruction of the Temple, it is a bubbe meise. It was a custom from Germany from the 1200s, that was incorporated into all the modern Jewish wedding festivities. There is a great video on the breaking of the glass, watch on *StroumJewishStudies* RU-vid channel, titled, *_"Why break a Glass at a Wedding? - Shalom Sabar"_*
@elfenauge7 I am sure your blood is different from that of Avraham. A righteous Israelite knows better that the Eternal One is the maker and formed of all humans....just one race...that is of Adam... Avraham did not know us, and Jacob did not know us, but אהיה is our Father...if our Father is אהיה, what is your race? Mal 2:10 Have we not all one father? Hath not one G-d created us? Why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, profaning the covenant of our fathers?
The Matrilinealism Rule was established by Ezra, who violated Tanakh by not having the pagan wives convert to Judaism or even consulting the Urim and Thummim on what should be done with the pagan wives. In fact, he took the wrongheaded advice of Shechaniah. (See Ezra 10:3). G-d never did and never would give such a command. In fact, he moved Ruth the Moabite to join Naomi's people, and G-d hates divorce (See Malachai 2:16.). He even had captive women convert in some cases (See Deut. 21:10-14).
