A cloak made of feathers | caring for a traditional Maori taonga 

I realize this is was your one chance of 15 minutes of fame but the importance of this channel is what's on it, not what you have to say about it. I see photos of people in front of some of the most beautiful monuments in the world but these ignorant people like yourself place them at the center of everything. It's not witty, it's not smart mate. Just shut up and watch the video and try to learn something

@@matthew-jy5jp Overall the comments on this, and who am I kidding, every post are highly disappointing. There is a reason that only a very few people from each generation will ever be remembered. The rest are pure chaff in the wind.

@@matthew-jy5jp just straight into the fighting words then hey princess? must be all that pakeha blood. for a start who are you to tell me what to do? 2nd im ignorant because i know a old maori saying although im not from new zealand? you should try a bit harder on your words and there meanings. you can just type them into google and find out what they mean, you should try it. 3rd whats this other waffle your going on about monuments? how is making a relevant comment in any way trying to get my 15 minutes of fame? and how exactly do you get fame from commenting on you tube videos? things must work different where you are than they do here your comment isnt witty or smart. Just shut up watch the video and try and learn something. you may even get something from a comment or two.

Do you Britians have no shame displaying stolen artifacts. These should be returned to its rightful owners.

@@sean659 why is there only one left in the world?

@@CrowSkeleton actually, be really cool if you'd just give our tāonga back. We already have plenty of your "trades"

Dry clean only unfortunately

HAHAHAHAHA!! 😂👍

Nobody knows, care label is written in Māori. Horoi ringa anake, kaua e maroke. Hand wash only, do not tumble dry.

@@kiwiprouddavids724 Did I say they were indigenous?

There is also a problem with this,in Papua New Guinea,that is reducing the hunting load on birds with brightly coloured feathers. That is the climate is hard on stored feathers. I recall seeing an entry here on YT on bright ideas on how to accomplish that. You may wish to look for that.

@@paulmanson253 Thanks for the tip

The 'flax' used in maori weaving isn't like northern hemisphere flax, it is a phormium which is grown overseas as a decorative plant. The fibres are long and coarse and more palm-like, and need to be treated quite a bit to be used in such a fine cloak. The processes are very interesting, there's stuff about it on YT as the person below states.

Is that your real name?

One potentially confusing issue is that what is called “flax” in English in the southern hemisphere is fibre from the leaves of the Phormium family of plants; while the flax of the northern hemisphere is from the stems of Linaceae, a completely different family of plants. So although they are both bast fibres, they might have a different microscopic structure, PH balance etc.

Fathers are male parents. Do you mean feathers?

100%

The video surprisingly didn't mention it, but the British Museum's website mentions that it was bought by a collector in 1842 and is thought to have been made in the early 1800s; the exact date is presumably hard to pin down.

Thank you I wondered that too.

@@FranzKafkaRockOpera you mean stolen then sold. But sure at least its been looked after now.

@@littleowl22778 how do you know it was stolen?

@@Icanbacktrailers come on, like some old rich white dude back in the 1800s just politely asked for and the natives at the time and they were like sure, probably racist colonist here take one of our cultures most prized treasured sacred pieces of ceremonial cloaks, you know for keepies and so you can show all your other white dudes back at home before selling it off to. Wait get this another old rich, say it with me white dude!

Fun fact: you are an anonymous coward.

​@MichaelKingsfordGray why so pressed bro?

They are critically endangered but nothing to do with their feathers. Predators introduced by the Europeans, including rats and stoats, eat their eggs and they reproduce very slowly/unsuccessfully.

No. They endangered coz the don't fly and breed slow combined with introduced pests.

They’re extinct because of rats and pigs introduced by western explorers. The pigs would eat all the food. And the rats would eat their eggs. And considering they’re slow breeding parrots. Their numbers never recovered.

Combine your misread with the guy above and we get a Clock made of Fathers.

Because time flies haha

@@monsternside1509 Father Time

@@monsternside1509 Too funny...

It's called museum loan be quiet. It's in good hands we have many foreign artifacts here too. Hypocrisy is a sin.

Will te papa be returning stolen items from islands and Australia too?

Like so many historical artifacts in the British Museum that other countries demand we return, this only exists in the condition it's in because we took it in the first place. If you want it, come and get it.

@@joshuarosen6242 cool story, bro

@@joshuarosen6242 wrong!

@@joshuarosen6242 If us europeans didn't COLONIZE other places in the world, and just exchanged goods with them and cooperated with them, we would see even more stuff in even better conditions.

I might be wrong, but to my understanding, this was donated/put in the care of both museums to preserve it.

We're working on saving them, their future is looking ok at the moment as we just had a good breeding season. But yes, humans are f*cked.

wrong island

If you want Māori culture items then make your own. It’s so immoral

Lol you brought museum employees in to do that work instead of a professional from Te papa? Can we have it back yet

It's a loan item 🤡

How do you know it was stolen?

Yes I'm very keen to hear your follow up to this - if you're going to make such an accusation here on the British Museum's page, I would like to see something to back it up. Maybe you're just a silly uninformed troll who doesn't understand conservation?

@@balke7935 Silly - check. Uninformed - check. Troll - check. Doesn't understand conservation - check. Go troll somewhere else, troll.

...Not even slightly, mate. Regardless of who possesses it, an artifact this fragile needs massive amounts of specialist care.

@@Agamemnon2 bro we have people here who can provide that, it doesn't need to be sitting in a repository of stolen goods on the other side of the world to be preserved

@@Andrensath1 agree that we should have it here, but we don't know that it was stolen. It may have been gifted, I understand many korowai were gifted to colonial officials.

@@vanderbam2741 true, but I was speaking of the British museum in general, rather than meaning this specific item was stolen

More like 20 or so.

Iwi would sell it for KFC 😂

With the partnership between the museum and the community, don’t you think that conversation would have been had? Given the age and state of the piece some serious conservation work would be needed to make it safe for travel anyway

@@kahn04 people that make these kind of comments have absolutely no idea the amount of work it takes to preserve these artifacts. They would happily see them destroyed just to say the british museum no longer have it.

@@Duncan23 I work in a museum, you’d be amazed how many people pay to come in then winge that we have the things we do

@@Duncan23 lmao yes backwards Aotearoa completely incapable of caring for their own history 😒

@@annie6261 Right. These arguments are self-serving empire brainwashing. They are saying "we have to keep these items because we appreciate them and take better care of them than their rightful owners". Apply that same line to any resource, and hey, that is the definition of colonization.

Have some respect and decorum Bob. Jesus Christ.

@@HotFish If you want respectful pandering comments there’s hundreds of them below.

>subbed to PragerU

Lmao

@@bobcranberries5853 What a piss poor excuse for an awful comment. "There's good in the world, therefore who cares about the bad" Really? That's not a good suggestion.

no..

Kākāpō are not extinct! There is actually a living population of around 200. The primary cause of loss of population was as a result of european introduced predator species like stoats and weasels.

Lol, no.

There's maori in england too 😂

Not sure what the meaning of this comment is. Are we supposed to condemn contemporary Maori people for a 500-year old extinction event?

Did you know that the acclimatization of NZ happened less than 200 years ago by Europeans in NZ. That's when the English decided it was a good idea to bring the wild boar, deer, possums, foxes, rabbits, stoats, black rats and English plant life to NZ. All of which have devastated the ecosystem in NZ. We even have a feral population of wallabies. The Victoria era British did this everywhere they went.

@@urmwhynot Awr, so that makes it all alright then, doesn't it?

No. The kakapo is critically endangered because introduced pets eat their eggs and they reproduce very inefficiently.

Loud mouth but quiet thoughts 😂

Facial tattoos and tattoos are a part of there culture

@@JohnWayneCheeseburger not very smart for a PhD candidate.

@@bngr_bngr In my culture it is a coat of arms. No two are the same. You can't just walk into a tattoo shop and get one. There is a whole process to go through to review one. If you are offended by our culture, it's because you are seeing it through your own lense which isn't a show of intelligence on your part

@@bngr_bngr It's a very good look for a PhD candidate, actually. It shows that she has gone through the requisite journey to reach her tattoo, and has that connection with her culture and ancestry. It signifies that she is an authority - that and the PhD complement each other.

@@urmwhynot it’s just stupid to deface your body. Sounds like an evil culture.

calling someone in pain while also admitting to be in pain..Where's your hot choccy milk, wittle babby?

It's a ritual that is part of our culture. She's calling to our ancestors in order to protect and conserve the integrity of the work at hand (conserving a Kahu/cloak in this instance) and to make sure everything is done inline with custom.

Have your ears been triggered Theo?

Take a paracetamol then, you big baby

@@urmwhynot How do you know the ancestors are listening? Do they answer?

Māori isn’t pagan, it’s Māori

when something predates the current primary faith, that makes it historical- although if this is a religious jab, then you could go back to some of the oldest christian/jewish 'pagan' works and worship the entire canaanite faithline- starting with the Lord Yahweh's father, El.

Paganism? What are you even saying man? Let’s not forget how the entire Abrahamic flood myth is more than likely Sumerian (or older!) in origin. The Sumerians, Mark; 2000 years before Christ. Half the bloody stories from the Torah/Bible/Quran are lifted from older, “pagan” faiths. This isn’t paganism. It’s history, and it’s fascinating history at that. To deride an important part of Maori culture by giving it the misnomer of pagan is some of the most arrogant bullshit I’ve ever seen.

genuinely evil thing to say