I realize this is was your one chance of 15 minutes of fame but the importance of this channel is what's on it, not what you have to say about it. I see photos of people in front of some of the most beautiful monuments in the world but these ignorant people like yourself place them at the center of everything. It's not witty, it's not smart mate. Just shut up and watch the video and try to learn something
@@matthew-jy5jp Overall the comments on this, and who am I kidding, every post are highly disappointing. There is a reason that only a very few people from each generation will ever be remembered. The rest are pure chaff in the wind.
@@matthew-jy5jp just straight into the fighting words then hey princess? must be all that pakeha blood. for a start who are you to tell me what to do? 2nd im ignorant because i know a old maori saying although im not from new zealand? you should try a bit harder on your words and there meanings. you can just type them into google and find out what they mean, you should try it. 3rd whats this other waffle your going on about monuments? how is making a relevant comment in any way trying to get my 15 minutes of fame? and how exactly do you get fame from commenting on you tube videos? things must work different where you are than they do here your comment isnt witty or smart. Just shut up watch the video and try and learn something. you may even get something from a comment or two.
Oh! It gets a hello song! I am so glad the people of Aotearoa are happy for such a tapu object to be cared for on the other side of the world, and hope we Scots can gift them something as good for Te Papa someday, though our textiles don't tend to survive the centuries as well.
Tell me a tale so beautiful that the stars will strain to hear The song you fear to end is just beginning so sing me a city of wishes and fire sing me a traveling song I will give you worlds of wonder and a feather cloak to keep you warm! 🎶
I am curious about the process of preserving the feathers and the weaving. Are there special considerations for flax as opposed to cotton or wool, and what are they? What does feather conservation require? Does the taonga have multiple kinds of feathers (wing, tail, down, semi-plume), and do these need different methods? I know, I know--that would be a half-hour video.
There is also a problem with this,in Papua New Guinea,that is reducing the hunting load on birds with brightly coloured feathers. That is the climate is hard on stored feathers. I recall seeing an entry here on YT on bright ideas on how to accomplish that. You may wish to look for that.
The 'flax' used in maori weaving isn't like northern hemisphere flax, it is a phormium which is grown overseas as a decorative plant. The fibres are long and coarse and more palm-like, and need to be treated quite a bit to be used in such a fine cloak. The processes are very interesting, there's stuff about it on YT as the person below states.
One potentially confusing issue is that what is called “flax” in English in the southern hemisphere is fibre from the leaves of the Phormium family of plants; while the flax of the northern hemisphere is from the stems of Linaceae, a completely different family of plants. So although they are both bast fibres, they might have a different microscopic structure, PH balance etc.
The video surprisingly didn't mention it, but the British Museum's website mentions that it was bought by a collector in 1842 and is thought to have been made in the early 1800s; the exact date is presumably hard to pin down.
@@Icanbacktrailers come on, like some old rich white dude back in the 1800s just politely asked for and the natives at the time and they were like sure, probably racist colonist here take one of our cultures most prized treasured sacred pieces of ceremonial cloaks, you know for keepies and so you can show all your other white dudes back at home before selling it off to. Wait get this another old rich, say it with me white dude!
They are critically endangered but nothing to do with their feathers. Predators introduced by the Europeans, including rats and stoats, eat their eggs and they reproduce very slowly/unsuccessfully.
They’re extinct because of rats and pigs introduced by western explorers. The pigs would eat all the food. And the rats would eat their eggs. And considering they’re slow breeding parrots. Their numbers never recovered.
Like so many historical artifacts in the British Museum that other countries demand we return, this only exists in the condition it's in because we took it in the first place. If you want it, come and get it.
@@joshuarosen6242 If us europeans didn't COLONIZE other places in the world, and just exchanged goods with them and cooperated with them, we would see even more stuff in even better conditions.
Yes I'm very keen to hear your follow up to this - if you're going to make such an accusation here on the British Museum's page, I would like to see something to back it up. Maybe you're just a silly uninformed troll who doesn't understand conservation?
@@Agamemnon2 bro we have people here who can provide that, it doesn't need to be sitting in a repository of stolen goods on the other side of the world to be preserved
@@Andrensath1 agree that we should have it here, but we don't know that it was stolen. It may have been gifted, I understand many korowai were gifted to colonial officials.
With the partnership between the museum and the community, don’t you think that conversation would have been had? Given the age and state of the piece some serious conservation work would be needed to make it safe for travel anyway
@@kahn04 people that make these kind of comments have absolutely no idea the amount of work it takes to preserve these artifacts. They would happily see them destroyed just to say the british museum no longer have it.
@@annie6261 Right. These arguments are self-serving empire brainwashing. They are saying "we have to keep these items because we appreciate them and take better care of them than their rightful owners". Apply that same line to any resource, and hey, that is the definition of colonization.
@@bobcranberries5853 What a piss poor excuse for an awful comment. "There's good in the world, therefore who cares about the bad" Really? That's not a good suggestion.
Kākāpō are not extinct! There is actually a living population of around 200. The primary cause of loss of population was as a result of european introduced predator species like stoats and weasels.
Did you know that the acclimatization of NZ happened less than 200 years ago by Europeans in NZ. That's when the English decided it was a good idea to bring the wild boar, deer, possums, foxes, rabbits, stoats, black rats and English plant life to NZ. All of which have devastated the ecosystem in NZ. We even have a feral population of wallabies. The Victoria era British did this everywhere they went.
@@bngr_bngr In my culture it is a coat of arms. No two are the same. You can't just walk into a tattoo shop and get one. There is a whole process to go through to review one. If you are offended by our culture, it's because you are seeing it through your own lense which isn't a show of intelligence on your part
@@bngr_bngr It's a very good look for a PhD candidate, actually. It shows that she has gone through the requisite journey to reach her tattoo, and has that connection with her culture and ancestry. It signifies that she is an authority - that and the PhD complement each other.
It's a ritual that is part of our culture. She's calling to our ancestors in order to protect and conserve the integrity of the work at hand (conserving a Kahu/cloak in this instance) and to make sure everything is done inline with custom.
when something predates the current primary faith, that makes it historical- although if this is a religious jab, then you could go back to some of the oldest christian/jewish 'pagan' works and worship the entire canaanite faithline- starting with the Lord Yahweh's father, El.
Paganism? What are you even saying man? Let’s not forget how the entire Abrahamic flood myth is more than likely Sumerian (or older!) in origin. The Sumerians, Mark; 2000 years before Christ. Half the bloody stories from the Torah/Bible/Quran are lifted from older, “pagan” faiths. This isn’t paganism. It’s history, and it’s fascinating history at that. To deride an important part of Maori culture by giving it the misnomer of pagan is some of the most arrogant bullshit I’ve ever seen.