A Darth Traya is Born 

Anakin was failed by the jedi,the epitome of their hubris. They turned from the force to be diplomats and slaves to the republic. That is why they could not see through the force order 66.

Atris ls the embodiment of exultation of heroism. She is the physical manifestation of the force's inability to CHOOSE between yes or no. White and black is not etched in right or wrong and the jedi cannot see this exactly.

It is such a quiet thing, to fall. Far more terrible it is to admit it.

One cannot Devolve themselves into their passions and fears or they will be unbalanced, one cannot be detached from their feelings or they will be unbalanced, One cannot see and act in absolutes. The world isnt so. The Greatest Irony of the jedi. The proclamation "Only a Sith Deals in Absolutes."

@@draco107 but if Anakin had followed the code and not married Padme he wouldn’t have fallen

"You were everything she could not be." She's a tragic character in her way. Fantastic voice acting, incredible sanctimony, but still...tragic.

TheFpsNinja you mean Darth Crite

I've often thought that too but I meditated on the fact that pride comes before the fall so I'd rather call her Darth Hubris.

@@Apol-los beatiful name

She will be: Darth traya

@@Apol-los 😂😂😂 perfect

Both wrong and right, yes and no, dark and light. One / cannot be/ absolute.

@@Meghalodon *" One / cannot be/ absolute."* Are you absolutely sure about that?

@@war1980 apparently, if only sith deal in absolutes 😏

Gee I wish there was a single word to describe something that is "beyond tolerable."

@Paul Pugh No offense but I think my comment went over your head...

@Paul Pugh Yes I know "Beyond Good and Evil" is a game. It's not relevant at all to what my comment was about.

"There is no emotion, there is sanctimony. There is no peace; there is hypocrisy." (Light Side Sith Warriors recruiting Jaesa run into some Atris-like Jedi in the process) Imagine if Atris had gone against Nihilus like this, and how thoroughly he would have demolished her.

like our world governments

Well I would say that the Exile's nature is what you, the player, decides throughout the story with your choices. The light and dark side meter is just a reflection of that.

I would probably agree but Vrook is some stiff competition...

I have no doubt that Juhani had died on Katarr but Jolee unlikely as he still felt that the council has failed its students.

You got the 2 sides of the coin thing wrong, it wasn’t about good or evil, but about the force and causality , nihilus was dominated by the force, while the exile was able to dominate the force to be used by her own will, see while Jedi and with think it is they who use the force, it is the other way around. The force uses people to achieve a “balance” and as a result the forces of light and dark constantly battle for control, yet neither are right, and the result of this struggle between forces results in the deaths of trillions in the form of endless horrific war; and the end result is basically nothing. That is why Kreia wanted to destroy the force. That is the difference between nihilus and the exile, one uses the force to create their own destiny, while the other is used by the force to enforce its destiny on all life, and that is why absolute good and evil are both terrible things, the interplay between these two forces causes great suffering, it is something that we see today and you see the true depth of story telling of kotor 2. It is better for there to be neither absolute good or evil, and why both the sith and Jedi are flawed philosophies, sapient life isn’t so black and white. Btw sorry if none of this makes sense I’m kinda sleep deprived

Effort it had, lack of planning and story foresite was it's downfall, and it further caused reactions in the fanbase that truly broke it, things so dark hidden beneath the blanket of a perfect franchise when it wasn't, but ironically these things being revealed are the good that comes out of it, because the true issues come into the light and knowing so it can be solved and repaired, with franchise being able to evolve, perhaps it was a necessary evil to save what we love

@@splashnskillz37 I wouldnt count on it. it'd be nice but perhaps we should be thankful for what we have ^.^

Atris makes Atton look smarter and more capable. Atton KNEW he was being manipulated the minute Kreia threatened to break him if he refused to aid the exile until the end.

@@EricGraham94 atris did not WANT to acknowledge that meetra is, was, the very thing she was accused of being, one way or another:a force within the force that can change the force.

@Brian Barlow Play Swtor, it's a continuation of Kotor. The Empire is the sith lying in weight beyond the Outer Rim

Christopher Daurio While I agree that Revan and The Exile were screwed over in Swotor, I have to ask; How the fuck were they gonna beat Vitiate?

@@Nephalem2002 Maybe the ancient pawer of Rakatan could help.

Too bad the True Sith we got were awful. I wish Chris Avellone got to make KOTOR 3. His ideas for the True Sith sound a million times better.

Sounds like they took random German recording.

Its the same as the rakatan language from the first game lol

@@iBloodxHunter Hahahaha, Im a german and trust me dude that is not how we speak. :D : D :D But thanks for the good laugh.

@@jeanjacquesrousseau1955 :: hissing of German holocrons ::

I wuv your pupper.

=P wrong universe.

Both KOTORs and + a 3rd one be made with a satisfying end

If only... But I don't think anyone would have the courage for such a project today. This is not the type of game that would sell well and have positive reviews today. Not in the age when what little story is in the game gets actively skipped by players who just want to beat stuff up, have the best gear available right away (for real money, if need be) and complain that there were too many dialogs.

Welp, achievements were added.

Would like one last Kotor game, with Revan and Meetra going to the ancient Sith empire and facing Tenebrae/Vitiate.

What could have been, SHOULD have been, cannot be but in memory.

Did someone make a mod of that?

Explain please?

@@mr.dystopian5554 they did.

It would be interesting, but then how would Kreia's role in the game conclude?

Surpasses it imo.

Her, Vrook, and Mace are the trio of Jedi arrogance.

I have no idea. Was the sith emperor aware of trayus academy? And even if he was, would he know that Revan would use Malachor V for the mass shadow generator? Kreia said that Revan knew the power in creating wounds in the force like Machalor V. But Revan only encountered the sith empire after the mandalorian wars. But yeah, maybe you're right. The sith allow these teachings to spread, so they can create wounds, and can find their way back to republic space. Sounds about right.

Papito Qinn honestly SWTOR creates controversy by fucking up plot in kotor 2 so honestly you shouldn't think of it as canon

Tyler Evan But then we're stuck at KOTOR 2. But I can only judge based on what I've heard of SWTOR, I never played it myself, probably never will. If we disregard it, the beacons being for the sith empire still seems possible. Although Atris said: "For who". Like the holocrons were saying that they were for a singular person.

Supposedly, Malachor 5 is a "gateway" to the "true Sith Empire that waits for the dark war that is to come." Like Korriban, it was on the very outskirts of the true Sith Empire, the Empire that Tenebrae/Darth Vitiate/Valkorion created after the Great Hyperspace War. In the movies and in KOTOR 1 and 2, the Dark Jedi were Jedi who fell to the dark side and were corrupted, while the Sith were followers of a belief in the dark side, a religion. Dark Jedi were just corrupted and evil. Formidable opponents but ultimately, just misguided. While the Sith were true phantom menaces, the true villainous darkness that watched, waited for the right moment to strike. Kreia, in a way, was wanting to teach someone else the true nature of the Force, teach them true strength because they would need it to fight the true Sith. KOTOR 2 was like getting over the past, reconciling things so the Exile could finally move on. And at the end, she left in the Ebon Hawk with T3 to find Revan... to join him and fulfill her destiny. And then in SWTOR, the Sith are retards.

Well that's because bioware today write at the level of a 12 year old fan fic writer.

You mean this? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hGlpTXNEGYc.html

@@PapitoQinn Indeed

>kreia sacrifices herself to save the exile [sad Exile noises]

They're connected to the Sith Academy on Malachor.

I think it was meant for kotor 3 which never came to be. they used that for Swtor I think, to make their "eternal empire" storyline, but im not a giant fan of it. a Beacon for the emperor off in unexplored space. according to Swtor the mandalorian wars were orchestrated by the eternal emperor to weaken the republic, and sith, so they could invade and take over.

Of course James Earl Jones can say what he wants.

Kreia identifies as neither Jedi nor Sith.

@@EricGraham94 Yet she became the necessary evil to make things right, or try to. Similar to Revan

@@EricGraham94kreia wanted to destroy the force, the exile was the conduit to be exact, and the way to do it was to employ her unique ability to siphon off the force of others such that it would deafen force users from connecting with it in the first place. People need to realize the force uses force sensitives, not the other way around. You may think you have "free will" however time and time again the force in the starwars universe finds its way around huge events to even out the playing field inorder to achieve the balance the so called Jedi rant so much about. There's Soo many clues from the forces manipulative nature. Is it not coincidental that droids such as R2D2 and C3PO end up in hands of luke? considering it came to be passed indirectly from father to son? Why is it that entire wars need to be set in motion inorder to achieve such balance in the force? The Jedi mistakenly assumed that balance meant to move the universe towards the path of light and yet "balance" was to decimate the Jedi numbers to sith levels!!!!! Yes the Jedi are arrogant but that was one aspect that kreia hated, she hated that the force had a will of it's own , that Soo many countless deaths occured inorder to achieve the constant tug of war between the light side and dark side. In her eyes, organics were merely pawns to the omnipotence of the force. In her eyes a universe without the force was possible but the remaining Jedi were too thickheaded and stubborn and thought it was impossible

Does it?... I don't speak German. Any words you can make out?

​@@PapitoQinn I can speak German, but couldn't make out any words. The only real similarity with German I've noticed is the frequent use of "shn". German has quite a few words beginning with this sound sequence, e.g., schnell (=fast), Schnee (=snow), schneiden (=cut). In general, the "sh" sound is more common in German than in English. It is sometimes used in words where English has "s" instead, e.g., Schwester (=sister), Sport, Student (these last two mean the same as in English, but are pronounced with "sh"). Having said that, the language of the Sith holocron still uses "sh" far more frequently than German does. But it is possible that the Sith language was inspired by the angry Nazi stereotype, although it has very little to do with the way German speakers actually talk nowadays.

I take it you dont read books? Or watch non action packed movies?

Quite the opposite. And I have played through this game several times as well.