i feel like im going thru that trope in my life rn lol, gotta make sure to not screw up, so watching those kind of video's, so far i got that you don't need to be obsessed with something to the absolute
BoJack doesn't show that 'money doesn't buy happiness' (which is a ham-fisted, cliché phrase). He shows that even with money and opportunities, it's ultimately you who has to decide to be better. BoJack has been a millionaire since he was in his 20s. But in all that time, it never occurred to him to, you know, use the money to get f***ing therapy! Only after assaulting a woman does he actually go to rehab. BoJack suffered extreme emotional abuse as a child, and learned a flawed worldview from the TV shows that gave him comfort as a child. But that doesn't excuse him choosing to be shitty as a grown-ass adult with the money and opportunities to make himself a better person.
I loved this video, it helped me put things about these characters in a better perspective, in terms of my understanding about them. It used to make me really sad how people would make an argument out of the certain actions these characters committed rather than focusing on the message they carry. It's important to wonder about what these characters were, what they became throughout the story and what we can takeaway from their journey and personality. Just quarreling about whether these characters are right or wrong misses the whole point of the story. In my personal opinion, I think the true beauty here lies in the fact that it offers a raw representation of contrast and duality through the lens of these characters from the start of their journey and how their journey comes to an end, which in turn makes us question our own opinions and ideology. It questions what we find acceptable through different stages of the story and how we justify it.
I’m so surprised you included bojack horseman 😭😭😭 that show is actually sooo good. Idk if yall seen it but if not you should def watch it. He’s def the epitome of this topic lmfaooo. He’s exactly the type of character that shows u what trauma and a damaged person looks like, someone u have no doubt in empathizing with, but at the same time shows them in the context that plainly does NOT justify their actions and behavior despite all that. You wanna feel bad for him and you might even understand some of the things he says and does, but at the end of the day it doesn’t make any of it okay, and at a certain point you want/have to say it’s too much
I completely agree, Bojack was so hard to talk about because you really have to make it clear that even though you relate to him you can’t justify is actions at all😭
I had an insight today, that ofcourse everyone is redeemable when looking through his eyes. If you believe that anyone deserves any pain and suffering - you just hadnt seen enough pain and suffering to know that - noone deserves anything. everyone deserves anything. If you want to see less pain and sufferring in the world - please be gentle, noone is Your enemy, except You.
For a very long time, I always justified Eren's actions. I never thought they were wrong, and I admired the determination it took to do what he did, giving up everything for his dream. I only realized why he was wrong when I watched Vinland Saga, specifically season 2. The hardest thing to do in this world is to love everyone, including your enemies. Doing so would prevent you from making the same choices that Eren did, as you would believe that every life is precious. However, if you can manage this, then you will be free of all desire. Thorfinn went down an incredibly similar path to Eren, but instead of choosing hate until the end, he eventually ended up choosing love. I used to think freedom was only an external concept, and that I had to fight for my right to live how I want, destroying anyone who got in my way. Now I am aware that true freedom comes from within. For there is no freedom without love.
this is an excellent comment, and I agree wholeheartedly. you have to love first, in order to be frustrated by the world. some of the deepest and most justified anger is felt by good people who know better, toward those who are careless or cruel. the trick is to be mindful, and consciously decide how that feeling should move you. engaging with the world as it is, is a labor of love. even with all it's conundrums and complications, and the full breadth of it's history... the love is why you keep trying, even when you haven't been perfect, and even when the world never was either. even Thorfinn in season 1 couldn't feel that much anger toward Askeladd without first loving his father. the frustration comes from there. sometimes it's just a long, difficult journey, to figure out what to do with all that sentiment.
I agree with you, it's conflicting, but at the same time I understand why Eren did what did too. The whole world was determined to kill him and his people from the start and they all declared a war against them together. He sadly didn't have a choice, you can see his talk with Ramzi he did not want to do this. They tried with Armin and everyone to talk it out, show them they're just humans like them but still the world wouldn't accept them and wanted them dead. Great takes on both characters. The depth in Thorfinn's character s2 was phenomenal.
Attack on Titan’s story is about the cycle of hatred, which will always exist as long as humans live. Eren’s story was structured in a way where there is no space for forgiveness or love for his enemies… It’s either fight for survival, or death. Eren acknowledged that the people on the other side of the sea were the same as him and his people; he even cried, felt guilt and remorse, tried to think of other solutions, but there was no other way unlike for Thorfinn.
@@vacilion nah, I don't accept that whole "there was no other way" type of mindset. if anything, Eren is a cautionary tale, to us, _because_ his "no other way" mindset is probably so similar to how someone justified the initial atrocities to themselves a long time ago, which led to the current state of things. as long as anyone's excuses remain acceptable, we'll never get anywhere. we'll get nowhere as long as there is this lack of self awareness... this lack of resistance to that hopeless line of thought. if we have had the benefit of seeing the worst of where that leads, then it's up to at least you and me, to learn something else from it all. I think Thorfinn is a great counterpoint to this mindset, because no... the conclusions Thorfinn comes to aren't easy. for every positive thing that he could ever think, there's a million miles of Eren's mentality, your skepticism, and his own lifetime's worth of pain and frustration, willing to try and say "um, actually," and his job is _still_ to not let that feeling turn him into something he hates. "idealism" seems like it sets you up with an impossible task. it seems like it demands that you be perfect, or that you ignore the harsh reality of a situation, or that you live in la la land, because nothing in reality works that way. but if that's what you think, then you misunderstand the practical use of an ideal. an ideal is a blueprint, and realism must be its constant companion. everyone who wants to use idealism effectively, knows that you can't expect perfection. that's why Vinland Saga is _never_ about perfect people. none of them _ever_ start with their slate clean. Thors was a soldier before he was a pacifist, same as Thorfinn... and every other sorry son of a bitch we encounter in the story is as dedicated to violence as they are to breathing air. the struggle is still to acknowledge the potential of these men anyway... every single one of them. to shoot for the blueprint, and land as close as possible, even if it will never be possible to fully hit the mark. the ideal in your mind's eye cannot require perfection as a prerequisite, or your efforts will serve absolutely no one. the most hopeless thing about Eren is his own emotional state, really. he doesn't think it would be possible to sway himself, so that's how incontrovertible he imagines his enemies to be as well. and you can't get anywhere if the conclusion is foregone for you already. but Thorfinn also knows the incontrovertible state from which he came. he knows for a fact that people are mutable, just as long as you acknowledge exactly how hard that process truly is. the cycle of hatred isn't the only cycle that humanity has... especially if you make the conscious choice to feed other drives. I'm not saying that Eren should've just magically come to these conclusions all on his own. his tragedy is the fact that he didn't. but we can see it all, from where we are. and we can understand that different ingredients might've begat a different man. Thorfinn attempts to be all sides of this equation... do you think the Thorfinn of season 1 would've made any better decisions than Eren, if he were faced with Eren's choices at that point in his life? of course not. sometimes the commitment to an atrocity really is as simple as "wrong place wrong time" like that. but these things are in no way absolute.
Beautiful. This is a sappy comment but I wanted to thank you for creating this video. I am going through multiple mental battles right now and your expression of these many characters, both ones I am and am not familiar with, gave me a sense of peace. At the end of the day, I am just a stranger on the internet. But even if it was just for today, this video has given me resolve to take the right path, as you mentioned in this video. I'll be sticking around for more of your content. Thank you.
Ah man this comment means the world to me I really appreciate it, you just made my day a lot better too I hope everything gets better I know what’s it’s like to have those battles, everyday is a new day and as long as you keep moving forward and try to stay positive I’m sure happiness is right around the corner!
Just finished Breaking Bad and all I have to say is, “Wow.” What a narrative. I really gravitate towards shows like Bojack, AoT, BB, and DN because of the moral grayness that is present throughout the story. No character is perfect, but neither is irredeemable. Great video 👍
This is insanely well done. I love the comedy throughout and the way you explain these characters, while also including a personal aspect to it. I really love your style of content and it's something I'd expect from a much bigger channel. Keep it up, I can see your blowing up even more any day now :)
Loved this video, this is my favourite type of character and Eren is also my favourite out of the rest, however regarding the final part of the video I would like to point out one thing about him: I think Eren didn't really do all of this because he wanted to save his friends that's why he kills Sasha and Hanji and tries to kill the entire squad on the final battle... he even admit it while talking to Armin, that he was just following "something" he wanted (his dream of watching the world Armin showed him on his book and his desire to turn upside down humanity and being free). So, in some way I see the "I did this to save you" as an excuse that he gave himself when he was trying to get his plan done to not feel completely bad about what he was doing (Even if he himself didn't really want to kill his friends and wanted them to live a long life). However I loved your reflection about all of this characters (specially the Eren's and Light's ones). Keep it up!
Thank you, I completely agree. Eren is a very multifaceted character and he has many motivations for why he did the rumbling, I wish I could’ve spoken more about him but I didn’t want this video to just be about him😭 Maybe in the future I’ll dive deeper into him, thanks for the insight!
you have the right context but you see it the wrong way. I believe that Isayama definitely changed the ending. The whole narrative of “Eren was just acting” that Isayama tries to push at the end just doesn’t hold up at all. Their are many instances where we see Eren by himself and still being that way, and we also get inner dialogue of Eren still being that way. Which is why the Eren we see in the ending just seems like a complete switch up. Isayama uses Eren as a reflection of himself. At the time Isayama was set on wiping everything away which was how he felt himself, but then he woke up from that feeling during the ending and changed everything he was building the story up to, in order to express the way he felt about himself. This is why people dislike the ending because, you can say they feel robbed of what they were supposed to see by Isayama’s inability to stick it through and his lack of will.
But he never actually killed hange and sasha those were only consequences of his actions his whole reason for rumbling is many not just one and believe me of actually wanted he would have killed his friends he literally has the founder just like erwin had selfish reason to sacrifice scouts eren also did
im glad bojack didnt just get killed off, because whats the point if he abuses people, apologizes yet does it again over and over, just to die without any resolution. even tho he started really late, its inspiring to see even an abusive, self loathing person like him can grow to be better. it gives me hope when i feel i am irredeemable or whatnot, i can self pity like bojack did & get absolutelely nowhere, or i can learn from it, take accountability, improve myself
Bojack Horseman is to me the only cautionary tale that's good for it's audience. Bojack finds a way out at the end that isn't an escape, and the series shows us every step without holding anything back. The moral ultimately is that Bojack isn't a good person, but if you don't want to do what he does, you have to untether yourself from the idea that there are good or bad people, there's only our actions. Doing good is a skill, and skills are hard to learn, but pain can get in the way of that. You need to juggle pain and choice to live. Technically Bojack wasn't a bad person either, but he was bad news; he was irresponsible and dangerous for others. No amount of sympathy from others would change that until he admitted to his own weaknesses. It's why Herb didn't forgive him. It's not about how Bojack felt. He did feel bad, but he still failed Herb.
What a good video, really, I had chills a lot during it, and as a person who whatched AoT 10 times entirely by sharing that experience with always a new friend, you really made Justice to that masterpiece. I followed you hoping to see other video like this, you have an impactful way to speak and to explain these concepts, if this is your start, I can’t wait to see your development. Greetings from Italy man.
Thank you I really appreciate this comment, I’m also a HUGE aot fan so I’m happy I got to express my love for through this video I plan on sticking to this and comments like this really help me❤
As for Eren, I think a lot people who were in his EXACT situation would have ended up taking similar actions. Eren wanting to wipe everything away is an extremely relatable sentiment. Now, there's big a difference between wanting to wipe everything away and actually doing it. For one thing, you would need the POWER to do it. Second, you need the URGE to do it. Eren had both, so it was inevitable that he'd do it. We forget that Eren is fundamentally an average joe with violent tendencies who was given way too much power for his own good. It makes wonder how many people in real life would act on this urge if given the power to do so...
I really love your analysis style. I really like how it's not just a recap of the character's story; but really looks deeply into the author and characters' personalities and informational sources, using the storyline as the basis to pry deeply into them. To me this style of analysis is pretty hard to find online, so thank you sincerely for that.
That quote from Kenny in aot stood out to me so much from that show for the exact reasons you described, and on that note, another incredibly powerful quote from aot was from Levi after Erwin decided he was going to lead his soldiers into a suicide mission against the beast titan, when he said, "Give up on your dreams and die." In a sense, Erwin was really the only character in that show who became free, as it was Levi essentially giving him permission to abandon all of his principles, hopes, judgements, and fears that kept him going and pushing through the hell that being the scout leader was. It makes you wonder what could've happened to these characters if they gave up on what they wanted instead of seeing it through to the end.
This was a genuinely enjoyable video/video essay. Your explanations of each character, their motivations, flaws, and relatabilities were very eloquently put. Good work all around, thanks for posting this 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I’d argue that Lelouch is the opposite, he starts off bad but by the end of the story he redeems himself and becomes a hero I wouldn’t call him a cautionary tale completely
@HussTheAnimeHood I dont really agree. Just because he won doesn't mean he isnt cautionary. He destroyed his life, family, and was responsible for the death of probably millions. His actions were repugnant. Yes, he might have accomplished some good, but I think he was also so wrapped up in his schemes. Maybe he was trying to do the right thing ultimately, and maybe some of his actions were far more selfless than like Light for example. He is a fascinating character, but I'm not entirely sure labeling him as heroic quite hits.
I'm back. This video hits close to home, because I both want to be an author, and because I can't lie to myself about my own flaws. EDIT: I always viewed Light's death on the stairwell as his final moment of denial, accepting his death, but never taking responsibility for his actions, dying by his own arrogance.
I think that calm they seem to feel or realized at the end of their journey is peace, they don't have to run anymore, they don't have to fight, to be torture in their minds with the endless emptiness they feel of never getting what they wanted, because what they wanted it was always an impossible dream, it's finally over. They can rest. And that's a piece of mind that they could never have, like the rest of us. Only at the end, no matter if they succeeded or not, if their actions will be remembered or how they will, nothing matter, because it's finally over.
The chapter on Eren describes how I feel about him and AOT as a whole perfectly, I’ve never had someone put that disappointment with Eren into words. To me the story of aot is exactly as Mikasa said, it’s about this world being cruel but beautiful and there’s always a reason to keep living.
Another 2 characters i would personally put on this list are Rick Grimes and Negan. Both are genuinely good people who for some reason or another have had to result in really fucked up things, which would make them out to be villains in the eyes of others. Eventually both of them kept it going until the world forced them to stop. In this case, Negan stopped Rick and Rick's Group/family stopped Negan. (I said it like this to avoid major spoilers)
i try to force myself through long yt videos as a way to fight my short attention span and your video was so well done that i didn't feel the slightest bit of boredom while watching. i was so surprised when i saw your subscribers count and i truly believe you deserve more recognition. keep up the great work.
I am still at the beginning of the video, but the points at 1:43 to 2:13 struck a chord within me. I think that a major part of the harsh rejection of the cautionary characters' choices and the characters themselves is because they feel, in a sense, like a mirror reflection of ourselves or who we want to be, and so we invest our very being into wanting to see them succeed, be happy, and reach what they hope for. Because what they hope for is what we really want in our own lives. But when they choose to surrender to a harsher fate, and it all comes crashing down; there is a sense of betrayal. A sense of, "Why did you put me through all of this, just to have his story, *my* story end like that." This sort of thing tends to happen when you have a great story that people can fall or escape into. Some end up living their lives through the characters, until they are abruptly pulled back into reality when it seeps into the imaginary. Edit: Awesoome! Eren Jaeger and Walter White are the perfect examples of this. During the times we feel most powerless and helpless, it's no surprise that we may look to Eren and Walt as opportunities for salvation from our own powerlessness and weaknesses. While I do think it is good when a character inspires us to better our lives, I also think it is to our detriment when, instead of applying some of the lessons we learned from the story to our own lives, we postpone them and rage against the unfairness of everything and everyone that has to do with the story ending the way it did, when it wasn't even our story to begin with. This video essay is a really fascinating and captivating breakdown!!!!
First of all, amazing video. I'm a big fan of this trope, and I can safely say that you hit the nail on the head. I think characters like Count Dooku and Jimmy McGill were also worthy inclusions.
This was incredibly well-made. I think if you keep doing videos like this, and putting in the same amount of love and effort, you’ll definitely grow to a large channel, good luck
Everyone keeps saying Eren wanted to wipe out all of humanity but he didn’t. He felt awful doing that, it tormented him for months, he searched for alternatives and couldn't find one. Eren wanted to save his family; the people he loved. The only people who didn’t hate him, that's all it was. He did the rumbling to give them a chance at a few years of peace, family life and a life free from war and titans.
@@ExpertContrarian how because he literally says it was to save his people, he even broke it down when he talked about how with 5% of humanity left, it would take years before retaliation would happen.
@@MJ-py7dm 20% of humanity was left alive, which will just lead to more of what they were dealing with in season 4, people hating and wanting to kill them rendering the rumbling pointless. Go big or go home, no more half measures
This was an amazing video u hit my niche of obsession. Thank you! I’d absolutely recommend you check out Better Call Saul! It being a brba spin off has obvious parallels to that show, but excels in its own right and I’d say is even better that it’s predecessor. Amazing work again !
I think what makes Eren so good is his multiple motivations clashing with eachother. A good example is the promotional poster for the last episode. Eren and Mikasa in their cabin spending their last 4 years together while we see shadows of Armin and Eren fighting eachother.
honestly i think franklin saint is underrated, he's the most relatable character on this list or of this genre because he's realistic and there's a little bit of the same greed and craving for riches in all of us that he had, whereas most of the characters on this list are extremist or have achieved ridiculous things
What I love about cautionary characters is that they will always be relevant, no matter the time for place, history has taught us that. They reflect the highs and lows, the good and bad of humanity very well and they are so relevant and hard hitting because many of us can see ourselves in these characters, not because a lot of these characters are esthetically cool, but they are our dark intentions and thoughts manifested on screen. However, no matter how justified they are, they’re still evil at the end of the day, ether it would be Eren, Walt, Franklin or Light, they’re all deep down all heinous people. That’s where in my opinion they all get misconstrued as the point of these characters is not, support them (despite their intentions), but to show us a worst case scenario of what would happen if we let our darker interests take ahold of ourselves.
I feel like some of the "justifiable"s should've been replaced with "understandable". I also feel like this is missing characters like Killmonger and Magneto, two people with very understandable causes who let their hatred take them too far. Magneto I feel especially deserves a spot on this list due to how iconic he is and how his character actually reversed in public reception (things like #/Magnetowasright trending on twitter) compared somehow like Light who people agreed with at first before people understood his god complex nature and how he fundamentally fails at trying to fix crime.
I always had in mind these characters are supposed to be people that you shouldn't aspire to be, you should admire them, empathise with them, but their ending and life style makes you see that their life isn't glory, it is a tragedy, Light Doesn't have any friends, he kills his own allies and in the end he sees he could have had a normal life with friends and a loving family. Eren because he wanted to create a peaceful world that meant he had to die and lose all of his friends, Thomas Shelby every season loses a family member, his wife, his brother... and only because he can't just get enough and lives a life overly ambitious. You have to see these characters for what they really represent a tragedy tale
I tried watching Attack On Titan like four months ago but couldnt get past the first few episodes (it was really heavy and I could not handle it at the time.) but with this context of the creator in mind, I'm definitely wanting to pick up the manga. Thanks for that interesting tidbit!
Yeah I’m going through some tough times, and I don’t think I’m going to make it, but your video gave me hope and something else to help counter these dark thoughts. Appreciate ya work keep it up.
I dislike the anime letting Light have a moment of realisation, it doesn't add much other than letting him have some dignity. The manga ending truly shows his self destruction and how, despite how he sees himself, pathetic he is when faced with the same evil he has commited. He cries, screams, and begs at the thought of dying, it completely tears him away from any resemblance of godhood that he might have had. Even the image of him as a genius is erased.
I don't know much about the other characters except the fact that they are detached, lonely and always had a grander view of everything from the very beginning. You can say how being over optimistic can be a precursor to these dark thoughts seeping into our thoughts and being so nihilistic and destructive towards everything around us. Characters like Anakin, Light, Walter and Eren need some strange amount of daring, to do something so desperate just to prove their point, like how they're so different from others. Like the reality when they saw it, it was too different from the dream once they possessed it, turning it into an active nightmarish fever dream. To me Bojack is the epitome of these "That's me" characters, because it shows how often the reality is for the masses. It shows that even after the main character acknowledges his fault, he's chained to the floor like a convict, unable to make a move to change himself. Forever shackled to the very idea they once were attracted to has become the bane of their existence until their execution. There's no option left, other than to just carry on with our mundane existence. I've been there, doing that. Like we're not psychopaths, we do love meeting people, but we do know every once in a while we'll get asked a question, "Why aren't you trying this, you were so good in this, you're so intelligent, et cetera!" Not really understanding the inner turmoil of the other individuals. But what we lack is courage, to make a tonal shift in ourselves to fit our outcome.
Warrior Cats also has this type of protagonist where it starts off good but gets worse later on over one bad thing. Its called Rise Of Scourge where the protagonist named Tiny starts off as an innocent kit but ends up being a monster over one bad thing despite having good intentions and goes by the name of Scourge
I agree with everything you said but Light. Light went out sad because his defeat wasn't Near or L's legacy. It was himself. Mikami or whatever his name is fucked up. There's poetry in that sure but as far as a narrative bite, to me it was just not the type of setup I was getting. As opposed to Franklin whose self sabotage was referenced since season 1.
To be fair with L, it is very questionable if anything you say about him is genuin, we see him being manipulative to the point of probably being a psychopath. Any emotion or attachment he is showing could very well be fake and it would be in character.
I look at the Character of Fiona Fox from the Sonic Archie comics as a cautionary character due to her own selfishness and pride. She started as someone who held a grudge against Sonic claiming that he forgot to rescue her even though he really tried to save her. A while later she acknowledges Sonic isn't a bad guy and she tries to become a Heroine and even starts dating Sonic for a time until Tails had a jealous tantrum over his one-sided crush on Fiona which causes her relationship with Sonic to slow down which leaves her dissatisfied. This leads to her beginning to cheat on Sonic with her-ex, Scourge and then she betrays Sonic and the Freedom Fighters and goes back to blaming Sonic for her own misfortunes and stubbornly clinging to a clearly abusive boyfriend who is a lost cause.
Loved the video and watched all of the shows you went and got examples for the essay! My question is can somebody recommend me other shows with protagonist in the cautionary role?
Bojack horseman has never been an enjoyable show for me because I find it so stupid and unjustified why he would do these things but I never thought about the deeper implications and the self centered sadness is the point of the show
Hayden Christensen did an incredible job portraying Anakin and all his facets and I will never forgive George Lucas for plastering his image over David Prowse. A complicated and flawed character should be allowed to grow old. We don't need their force ghost (or any after-image) of them looking like they did before they went too far and allowed themselves to be horrible people. That glimpse of an acceptance that they could have been / could be a good person is necessary. Otherwise we will split humans in "good people" and "inhuman monsters", which makes us blind to notice the actual horrible people in the world. Idk if this is rambling, it is just that your video essay has awoken this old gripe of mine and I tend to get mad about it sometimes lol
Basically Naruto and Sasuke one of the first to do it. Sasuke chose the easy path, the emotional path, the weaker one. Naruto despite the trauma he’s been through he doesn’t use it as an excuse. This is why I hate Eren. He uses his trauma as an excuse despite a world full of people with the same trauma if not worse, yet he feels like he’s justified dictating other people’s suffering and ironically passes his trauma onto them. This is why I *love* Guts because he decides recovery, despite he’s probably the most traumatized out of all these characters. He decides to rebuild himself.
Half the reason Eren does the bad things he does is because the entire world declared war on his island and we’re gonna wipe him and his people out if he did nothing (go rewatch Declaration of War). They had 4 years to sort out a peaceful solution but nothing worked. You’re completely missing the point by downplaying Eren’s motivations to just plain old revenge. He was essentially backed into a corner. The outside world is just as guilty as Eren for their destruction in S4. They had every opportunity to defuse the conflict with Paradis but were too ignorant and hypocritical to even consider it. Fuck them.
To me Erens action as wrong as he is i think was one of the only options to go down with. The world was agaisnt Paradis and did not want them to exist and hell, they declared war after so many talks of trying to find a peaceful way of ending the hate. Eren waited until they declared war to attack in the basement. Innocents died but Marley if they had there way would either kill or enslave everyone on that island even worse then the Eldians on the mainland bc thats the island of "Devils". To me what Eren did was wrong but it was the last and only option to pick
He didn’t waited or anything He ALREADY KNEW what was going to happen The talk with ramzi comes BEFORE eren’s declaration of war so with that he always knew the war was going to be declared and he literally WENT WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDED for him Didn’t even try to change it because it was what he wanted
Serious Shonen is just shock value, nothing cautionary. Unless it's Seinen and Josei, yes some series are cautionary. If you asked Eren is a cautionary character, probably only if he's being written right at the end. At most it's just the characters overall in Attack on Titan that's cautionary.
