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@DrR0BERT
@DrR0BERT Год назад
"Notice what I did there: Yellow and red make orange." BEST line yet!
@davidbrisbane7206
@davidbrisbane7206 Год назад
A very interesting problem, which shows you can get a long way with only elementary number theory.
@alessandrocaia1270
@alessandrocaia1270 Год назад
5:02 nice colour coding😂
@txikitofandango
@txikitofandango Год назад
It was Michael's videos of problems like this one that inspired me to go back and study more math, and my first class was number theory
@GreenMeansGOF
@GreenMeansGOF Год назад
I think the contradiction is that 0 is not invertible.
@seanbastian4614
@seanbastian4614 Год назад
For the part of the proof where we need to show that a does not divide n (and similar for b and m), I don't think we need to do by contradiction. All we need to say is that since gcd(a,b)=1, a doesn't divide b and from our definition of x, x is not congruent to 0 mod a so a does not divide x. But then a does not divide bx=n. Similar can be done for b and m.
@TheEternalVortex42
@TheEternalVortex42 Год назад
Michael loves proofs by contradiction
@simonomanik1206
@simonomanik1206 Год назад
i dont quite understand the statement on 4:05, bcs 4 not dividing y does not imply 2 not dividing y. in this case, it would be sufficient for 5y+1 to be divisible by 2.
@colbyforfun8028
@colbyforfun8028 Год назад
We run into some problems. If 5y+1 is even, then 5y must be odd and therefore 2 cannot divide it, so 4 must divide 5y+1.
@omerhalaby2337
@omerhalaby2337 Год назад
You are correct, 2 can divide y even though 4 doesn’t. Therefore you can’t assume that 2 doesn’t divide y, but that’s not what he did. He said that because 4 divides 5y(5y+1), and 4 has to divide at least one member of the product 5y(5y+1), and 4 doesn’t divide neither 5 nor y, 4 has to divide 5y+1. Hope I helped😊
@RexxSchneider
@RexxSchneider Год назад
@@omerhalaby2337 I think you're almost there, but the assertion "4 has to divide at least one member of the product 5y(5y+1)" requires the additional condition that gcd( 5, y, (5y+1) ) = 1. Fortunately, that's true.
@Maths_3.1415
@Maths_3.1415 Год назад
Your problem solving videos are just awesome :)
@philippegaudreau
@philippegaudreau Год назад
You're the best! Thank you for the great content
@Aman_iitbh
@Aman_iitbh Год назад
since a divides (bx)²+bx then we cant do ax will divide that , as it must be possible factor of x included in a or in other word of gcd of (a,x)=1 then only we can do that ex 21| (2×3)²+(2×3) but we cant say as 3 is in both factor them 63| 42 .
@ruilopes6638
@ruilopes6638 Год назад
we do always have that the gcd(a,x) =1 bx = -1 (mod a) -> bx +1 = k*a for some k in Z -> 1 = ka -bx that is Bezout's Identy therefore gcd(a,x) =1 In your counter example 21|(2*3)^2 + 2*3 but 21 ∤ (2*3) + 1 and that is required by construction
@Aman_iitbh
@Aman_iitbh Год назад
@@ruilopes6638 ya i specifically provided that example in which gcd(a,x)≠1 ,as micheal argument to do that was as x is in both term so . i provided counter to that argument that we cant do always. only if gcd is 1 then we can do . have a nyc day
@aadfg0
@aadfg0 Год назад
Simpler: Let k = -a^(-1) mod b, then m = ak, n = -ak-1 works.
@columbus8myhw
@columbus8myhw Год назад
You stated that if something is 0 mod a and 0 mod x, then it is 0 mod their product. This is not true in general: 12 is 0 mod 4 and 0 mod 6, but not 0 mod 4*6=24. However, we can use a different rule: if A=B mod C, then Ax=Bx mod Cx. Proof: by definition of mod, the former states that (A-B)/C is an integer, and the latter states that (Ax-Bx)/(Cx) is an integer. But these are equivalent.
@dickinaround87
@dickinaround87 Год назад
Given the polarization around "CRT", I would probably call it the Remainder Theorem of China or "RTC".
@olgapavlova
@olgapavlova Год назад
On 4:30, "4 not div y" actually not follows "4 div 5y + 1". The problem is 4 = 2x2. Not sure yet iti is important.
@AlcyonEldara
@AlcyonEldara Год назад
no since 5y and 5y+1 are consecutive and cannot be both even.
@olgapavlova
@olgapavlova Год назад
@@AlcyonEldara Thanks, you are absolutely right.
@martincohen8991
@martincohen8991 Год назад
Here's my solution gotten before watching this video. For any integer c, choose u and v so thet uv=c^2+1. Then m=c(u+c), n=c(v+c). If u=1, v=c^2+1, then m=c(c+1), n=c(c^2+c+1).
@omerhalaby2337
@omerhalaby2337 Год назад
I don’t get it. Isn’t “x=y” just an assumption? If so, how come he used it throughout the whole proof?
@yuan-jiafan9998
@yuan-jiafan9998 Год назад
The problem asks m and n satisfying the conditions for given a and b. Hence we can impose an extra condition as long as m and n indeed satisfying the conditions.
@RexxSchneider
@RexxSchneider Год назад
We're only asked to find some values for m and n that satisfy the three sets of conditions, and assuming x=y leads to set of values (namely those derived from x ≡ -1/b mod a and x ≡ -1/a mod b), so we have a solution. Or rather we have a set of solutions, since if x is a solution, then x+abk where k ∈ ℤ is also a solution, e.g. in the case of a=4, b=5, we find x=11 is a solution, but so is x=11+20=31. Check: m=124 and n=155 gives m^2+m = 15500 = 100n and n^2+n = 24180 = 195m, so they are good as well. In the case of a=4, b=5, we arrived at y ≡ 3 (mod 4) and x ≡ 1 (mod 5). So, we could try y=2x, but that would lead to 2x ≡ 3 (mod 4), not possible. No solutions there. Try x=2y, leading to y ≡ 3 (mod 4) and y ≡ 3 (mod 5), giving y ≡ 3 (mod 20), but taking m=12, n=15 fails to make m^2+m divisible by n. No solutions. Try y=3x, leading to x ≡ 1 (mod 4) and x ≡ 1 (mod 5), giving x ≡ 1 (mod 20), but that fails to make n^2+n divisible by m. No solutions. In fact, making y a multiple of x or vice-versa always results in numbers that are not "good". I wasn't able to prove a lack of solutions so far for arbitrary a, b such that gcd(a, b) = 1, and for relationships like jx = ky where j, k ∈ ℤ, but my conjecture is that no other solutions exist. Perhaps someone can provide the proof of that?
@dodgsonlluis
@dodgsonlluis Год назад
What does it mean -b^(-1)=0(mod a)? I cannot make any sense of it.
@mrgold4678
@mrgold4678 Год назад
Standard notation for an inverse element b^-1 is a number, s.t. b^-1 • b = b • b^-1 = e (e - identity, for multiplication in modular arithmetic it is 1). So, for example: 4^-1 = 4 (mod 5) because 4 • 4 = 16 = 1 (mod 5) 2^-1 = 4 (mod 6) because 4 • 2 = 8 = 2 (mod 6) Btw, some elements may not have their inverses. There are no inverses for 2 (mod 4). Nevertheless b^-1 = 0 (mod a) sounds weird ‘cause b • 0 = 0 is true only for a = 0…
@dodgsonlluis
@dodgsonlluis Год назад
@@mrgold4678 I knew what means the inverse in the integers module n groups. A number not having inverse, as the zero, makes difficult to make deductions from, precisely, its inverse. The proof needs to stress that and a remake of that part. Better: a|bx -> bx=0(mod a), but from x=-b^(-1) (mod a) -> bx=-1 (mod a), showing a contradiction.
@megauser8512
@megauser8512 Год назад
@@dodgsonlluis (Unless, of course, a = 1, but in this problem a must be strictly > 1.)
@megauser8512
@megauser8512 Год назад
@@mrgold4678 You meant 2^-1 = 4 (mod 7) because 4 • 2 = 8 = 1 (mod 7)
@hybmnzz2658
@hybmnzz2658 Год назад
b is invertible mod a iff gcd(a,b)=1
@padraiggluck2980
@padraiggluck2980 7 месяцев назад
n=2, m=3 (or vice versa) proof by empiricism
@howwitty
@howwitty Год назад
I was just wondering if the largest prime having the property of being a factor of any number less than x was smaller than the square root of the half of x... I wonder if this shares concepts similar to your number theory problem from Indonesia.
@siyovushsaparboyev8641
@siyovushsaparboyev8641 Год назад
Good problem
@stefanschroder4694
@stefanschroder4694 Год назад
The CRT wasn't necessary and he didn't used it!
@RexxSchneider
@RexxSchneider Год назад
He sort of did. When he was looking for an x to satisfy both x ≡ 3 (mod 4) and x ≡ 1 (mod 5), he gave the answer x ≡ 11 (mod 20), and in general you would use CRT to find that.
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