I felt the seriousness without being swamped by it. I liked that it was easy to follow but impactful enough to give one pause, pause to think critically about censorship and that which it intends to obscure.
Kenneth Slayor expect they do. Not saying bias doesn’t exist in story selection to a degree, as no one can be truly biased, but the information is accurate.
In 1990s here in Russia we had a satirical TV show called "Puppets". When Vladimir Putin came to power, they released an episode where Putin was portrayed as Klein Zaches from E. Hoffmann's grotesque fairy tale. The authors were internally banned from parodying Putin, and a couple years later the show was cancelled because of pressure.
A while back, "les guignols", a long-running satirical TV show in France (that mainly mocked politicians) was also censored and then cancelled for political motives. Seems this is happening everywhere, sad times we live in.
Wait it was just called Puppets? That’s like the time Japan had a Transformers anime called “Transformers: Car Robots” I know it’s off topic, but I find the name strange that it’s just called Puppets.
Weird Al has made me pee my pants a little while listening to his genius musical satires. Gary Larson has made me snort coffee from my nose on my kitchen table and on my coworkers. The Greatest Political Cartoonists can deliver satire which not only comfort and humor us, but force us to reframe our own reality and beliefs.
Satirists, caricaturists bring out the raw ego of leaders and the truth in their actions so simply! Just imagine otherwise; how dark and dreary would this world be if not for quick humour... Great talk, great platform!
I mean, I think there's some merit to using political satirists as the Canary in the coal mine. When they're under censor, the free press is no longer free or safe.
@@MrFrak0207 I don't associate the extreme left to the left in the same way I don't associate the extreme right to to right. For me there are just the extremists and the normies :)
NO.... th left used to love free speech... not anymore... the left gone radical.... so much anti trump propoganda... and yet trump's better! then the radical left... not great/... but better!
I think this brings up a really interesting conversation about business and creator interactions with public outrage when handling challenging topics, but everyone in the comments equating political correctness and ‘leftist SJWs’ to real political authoritarianism is kind of missing the point. When he says “media shouldn’t be influenced by social media mobs” he doesn’t mean “people on the internet shouldn’t be angry about these things”. Valid or not, groups of people who get worked up over sensitive issues are EXERCISING their own free speech, not taking away yours. Your right to say whatever you want also means that someone else has just as much of a right to tell you to shut up. The conversation we should be having is when is it worth the fight to keep talking anyway.
@@untitled8005 Glad to see this has gotten new eyes! When I wrote this my point was: if a company fires someone because of "public pressure" why do we always blame 'The Mob', who are just strangers on twitter with no actual power except the right to yell and stomp their feet, and not the company that actually does have power and can make its own decisions? Especially in an industry like journalism, shouldn't we want leaders who can handle controversy and are willing to stand with their creators on difficult topics?
@@mcrettable I just don't get it when they attack comedians for being "edgy". Humor is just a person making fun of another person or situation. I feel like if you don't like the humor, you don't have to laugh. Thanks for your reply
This is an intriguing talk. Patrick has clearly put a lot careful consideration into his thesis, and he is very close to a revelation. He does have some dogmatic baggage he needs to dispense with, but fundamentally freedom of speech is the battlefield and censorious activists and demagogues are the adversaries. I would encourage a reassessment of past prejudices, you have more allies in this fight than you realize. In particular some of those you most fervently condemn are really some of the most effective champions of your cause. Through bipartisan effort we can preserve freedom of speech in the USA and introduce it to the rest of the western world. In order to do that, you need to stop thinking of us as your enemies. You and I want liberty, we just have different methodologies and priorities in servicing this goal.
Whatever cannot withstand satire is false.” - Peter Sloterdijk, Critique of Cynical Reason The most extreme form of censorship is murder. Humor is freedom. We need humor like we need the air we breathe. When satire is challenged so is freedom. This is why dictators, the autocrats and all the ideologues of the world can not stand humor. It is a threat to them. Satire causes you to think. Truth can withstand satire & satire complements truth.
"We now live in a world where moralistic mobs gather on social media and rise like a storm. The most outraged voices tend to define the conversation and the angry crowd follows in."
This is a bit of a tangent from the argument of the video, but I think the stance that comedians/speakers/media are taking against criticism is ignorant and ineffective. The general trend of defending free speech lately seems to be a push back against 'snowflakes'; "people get offended over everything these days", "If you don't like it, you can just look away", "grow a thicker skin", etc. IMO, it's a poorly though out argument that just creates a cycle of hypocrisy. Speaker criticizes something controversial -> Audience gets offended and 'oppresses' speakers right to say controversial thing by criticizing the criticism -> Speaker 'oppresses' the Audience's right to oppress him by criticizing their criticism of his criticism. It ends with both people defending their right to free speech...by telling the other person they're not allowed to talk. It's fighting fire with fire, or more like fighting snowflakes by being a snowflake. It's ridiculous. It isn't that the Audience hasn't suddenly grown more sensitive. It's that instead of it being a monologue, its a conversation. Where once the Speaker had all the voice, now the Audience can participate (In the form of Social Media, etc). People who have made careers out of attacking opinions can now suddenly hear people attacking THEIR opinions, and they're upset about it. If Speakers really stand for free speech, they ought to grow the thicker skin they often complain about and either join the debate they opened, or brush off the dissent and move on (as the Audience has done since always). Otherwise they're just another flake in the snow pile...which they have every right to be.
Dustin Saxton Satire makes you see some situations at a different angle. The nature of this kind of art has always been provocative. People could always give a feedback by buying or not buying that art.
@Suffer No Fools He presented satirical political cartoons as a form of expression that people are being murdered for, and are object of censorship. This seems to be something everyone should rally against.
@Suffer No Fools People not being thrown in jail, tortured, murdered, or censored for their opinions is what would be nice. That is the point of this presentation. The fact that you are irked by satiricial opposition to Trump is your own problem.
@Suffer No Fools Thanks for showing that you're one of the typical right wing, chump-loving sycophants who loves the idea of freedom of speech being oppressed, because you don't like "Orange man bad" rhetoric. Triggered?! Are your feelings hurt?! You're pathetic. Also, NPC? Really? LOL, go back to 4chan. Hack.
Mockery and humor help us remember that we aren't as big and powerful as we think we are. Remembering that help us have more empaty and being more thoughtful about the world around us and ourselves.
"The public have an insatiable curiousity to know everything except that which is worth knowing. Journalism, using tradesman-like habits, supply these demands" - Oscar Wilde
*_Sadly, our society in today's standards can't handle the joke too seriously. Satire isn't about offending everything in society for being pointless, it is a genre that intents of shaming social blights into an improvement._*
I'd disagree. Satire is super important, but language holds power and when we stop allowing people who weild that power badly and use it to hurt people to continue, it makes the world safer for the rest of us. We don't let children bully others, we tell them not to say bad things and put them in time out. It's the same for adults. And the people who are the most upset by PC culture, are those who are already safe. Who have never been bullied and rejected by language. They don't understand it and instead of trying to, chalk the world up to snowflakes. But the schoolyard bully also thinks their victims are weak. And as we know, they are often more vulnerable themselves and simply trying to maintain their facade of power. All the same.
A comment is made on every picture of this debate. One has to write the whole story to comment. It is better not to comment . Everything is true . For this Debate I am Speechless.
When I used to work as an illustrator, met a lot of people, including employers, who disliked caricatures on principle. Especially the kind that make people look funny/ugly for others to laugh at. Sometimes I agree with them, sometimes I agree with this guy. 🤷♂️ Humour is a very subtle and fickle thing, (& often double-edged, ie. also a weapon) and can be very different in different parts of the world .
mhh there are a lot of reasons to dislike. I like the cartoons, I like the message they bring, but I feel like Patrick is exaggerating, disliking a comic is an attack against democracy
yes not enought dislikes... too many people are brain washed by the radical left.... and no BTW i don't see trump as amazing but still much much better then the alternative... There's a big difference between a caricature, a criticisms.... and anti trump propaganda unbelivable.... ted's got worse over the years......
@@alexmac8000 no it's not... but when you are on what used to be the left... with millions more... And suddenly the party that's "representing" you goes so so far left... So crazy... that it looks like the right's old satire of the left... Then that's radical... Just look into some modern policies.... While i'm more of a libareterian... the left has gone insane... healthcare of illegals open borders no guns at all... unbelievable... And the green new deal... sure why not give the government more power to "protect" us from something horrible in 500 years... Oh wait what.. nuclear... no... lets go solar... no matter it's impractical ineffective expensive uses rare resources we can't store the power............................. Nuclear is bad.... the left has gone insane... all they want is power not solutions... I do suggest you look up into a few conservative views and ideas... while i don't like religion just as the next rational guy... i'd say you'd easily find much more rational views... mixed and different ideas... open debate and arguing... The right is closer to the rational middle then the left..... They lost it... And btw i disagree with many on the right but most of it isn't so radical...
donotlike 4 anonymus donotlike 4 anonymus again, something isn’t radical just because it differs from your opinions. Not to mention no one is calling for open borders. Or the fact that gun control has literally been proven to work. And to say that the right is more rational or closer to the center? You can’t just state your opinion and treat it like fact, dude. Because that is the opposite of the truth.
Peer pressure is powerful and potentially poisonous. When corporate and gov't powers rise to co-opt and control our freedoms, it's time to be wary of their place, and put the pressure where it belongs ... In the joined hands of the people. 😡✊
Bu videoyu içinde "free world" özgür dünya terimi geçtiği için seçtim, bu terim önemli bir terimdi ve Avrupa Kuzey Amerika kıtası için kullanılan bir terimdi, mesela bir siyasi figür Rusya'yı veya Çin'i dışlamak istediğinde özgür dünya terimi kullanırdı. 2018 yılı "free world" özgür dünya teriminin tarihe karıştığı ve yok olduğu bir yıl oldu. Bunun anlamı Kuzey Amerika'nın ve Avrupa'nın Çin ve Rusya ile aynı demokrasi standartlarına döndüğü anlamına gelmiyor, tabi ki Avrupa ve Kuzey Amerika için üzücü bir gerileme yaşanıyor ama bu aynı şartlar anlamına gelmiyor ama kesin olan tek gerçek "Free world" özgür dünya kavramının yok olduğu gerçeği.
Interesting talk. By the way I love political cartoons. Especially intelligent and meaningful cartoons. Not just random caricatures. It's an art to Express without words. ☺️☺️
Free speech is essential to our freedom. And politicasl correctness and politicians with too much power are the biggest threats to that freedom. Democracy is not the goal. Freedom is. Democracy is sometimes a tool to safeguard freedom. But sometimes, majorities violate the rights of minorities.
@11:44 Newspapers should be deciding what´s important, not the public. Actually got applause. I agree social media shouldn´t decide what is considered important. But... Why can´t people just decide for themselves, without algorithms? Because money. So take the money out of the news and the problem disappears. Make a fund for news. No matter what the news. If we don´t like it, good!
And to though we once fought for the freedom of speech, which is now being frowned upon. People tend to forget the past and thus, it always repeats itself. This talk was a topic that should be taken more seriously.
I'll challenge your idea of freedom of speech. I don't think this man would say that you should be able to use slurs or make sexist jokes. Satire is not either of those things but thoughtful commentary on current events. It absolutely requires the person using satire to understand the side of the marginalized, which is why the people who are best at it tend to be in those marginalized groups (it's not that you can't make a joke about another race, class, sexuality. It's that you have to be absolutely sure it's a good one and that the marginalized group agrees... not 100% because there are people who take it too far. But overall). Satire is super important, but language holds power and when we stop allowing people who wield that power badly and use it to hurt people to continue, it makes the world safer for the rest of us. We don't let children bully others, we tell them not to say bad things and put them in time out. It's the same for adults. And the people who are the most upset by PC culture, are those who are already safe. Who have never been bullied and rejected by language. They don't understand it and instead of trying to, chalk the world up to snowflakes. But the schoolyard bully also thinks their victims are weak. And as we know, they are often more vulnerable themselves and simply trying to maintain their facade of power. All the same.
@@theDgeada this is called censoring. Doesn't matter if you think you are protecting someone or not. Look for Porto Alegre city counselors censoring exposition of charges against the BR president.
Mr Patteick Chapatte...i agree that cartoonist do have the creative right to publish things which is reflection of truth, however unpopular it may be.infact it is the duty of the Cartoonist to do so.....but i guess somewhere in your creative freedom you fail to do proper research and curating or take for granted on the current state of Railways in India now....before publishing an overcrowded train of India with people sitting on roof tops racing with a chinese bullet train...somewhere in your mind those pics from Bangladesh are stuck and because of facial similarity you seem to think it is Indian. Will it not hurt Indian people...to feel that you are trying to show India as a poor counrty when India is about to become 4th largest economy by overtaking your home country Germany by end of 2023 ? ...is it unfair for a common Indian to feel that you , your publisher and may be your country is being racist in portraying India in poor light. is it unfair for Indians to think that ...your country is still living in past colonial era...and are feeling vulnerable when a so called country called India is beating them in economic might, space technology, weapon systems, pharmacy, IT and the so called German pride is falling apart now..? Do we common Indians not.have the creative freedom to form such opinion about you and your country as much as you have to always show India in poor light as you did once before during Covid times?
Authoritarian is the most secure method for peace on earth and the easiest. Sadly, nothing new can be born from such a world where freedom of thought cannot exist because of the threat it poses to the governing system. When we cast away our freedoms and do not revolt against change for more "safety" we secure our future. Until the common masses can summon the courage to be intolerant towards intolerance we will continue our march to this sanitized world, where only those on top can benefit from the stagnation of a known world.
Not a single rational person in a persecuted group would flag this video. There is a huge difference between this and hate speech. And I would bet this man condones hate speech and the use of slurs, jokes at the expense of marginalized groups, all while promoting freedom of (respectful) expression.
@@flaminghulaballoo How do you figure? If there is freedom of speech, can there be libel? Sedition? Slander? Fighting words? Threats? Inciting a riot? Inciting panick? Well? Why can't hate speech exist?
The problem is no longer dictators and kings who don't like being made fun of, the problem now is that you can't do satire without being in fear of being cancelled and/or having your life destroyed to the ground because you weren't woke enough.
