A Generational Curse Caused Eve's Father's End | Eve's Bayou Fan Theory 

Thanks so much for this kind feedback Autumn! We appreciate you watching this really long video! :-)

I definitely had to subscribe as well. 😂 This video was amazing, talented, interesting, formative, and it was a really interesting perspective. 💯👍🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

Should stop watching open door for demons to come into your life repent

Agreed!! Deep and I enjoyed EVERY minute of it!! 👀🥰🎬🎊🍿

@@AxiomAmnesia you

Good observation

Yep.

Just like all families. It's just a continously cycle of the same crap

That would explain similarities.

I thought that.. i also wondered if Their Mother was a Mistress & if the wife of the man she slept & had kids with is ElZora.. 🤡😭.. And thats why Elzora cursed them..and thats a part of the whisperings of side babies & that lingering of 'secret families' & the potential of being abandoned for them.. I think the reason why thee side baby convo was only sprinkled in, is to create symbolism for the 'Family Secrets' of the Baptiste Family/Black People as a collective.. Juss my theory 😁.. There was definitely a pathology of infidelity & lust/temptation

⁠yessssss I totally agree I believe Mozelle was cursed by somebody’s wife for sleeping with their husband and her mother was maybe cursed too probably by elzora like u said

My exact thought

I agree

Bingo!

It's both. Louis took no accountability. A spell was put on him. When a person is in sin..they are vulnerable to attack even death. Very astute, well acted film. Eye opening.

I concur...it seems brother and sister were cursed with a Jezzabell spirit.

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She was amazing, even as a child actor!

@@AxiomAmnesia she can hold her own along side of Lynn Whitfield,Samuel L. Jackson,Forrest Whittaker,etc ..truly amazing!

And Meagan Good was amazing too! They selected great actors all the way around.

Entertaining Black Man videos, we know. We watched a movie with her in it a couple of weeks ago. She was a great child actor was the point of the comment. Unlike many child actors, she successfully transitioned to being a successful adult actor. The point we were making is that she was great even when she was a child. Just so you understand what we were saying...

Along with Jussie 🙏🏾

Yesss a proud creole I’m very proud they made a creole movie

We need more like this!

@@AxiomAmnesia Absolutely! The plot was so simple yet it grabbed our attention and didn’t let go till hours after it was over. Remember when the story mattered? Maybe I’m just getting old? 🤷‍♀️ I had wondered about the curse when I first watched. Wondered if maybe it were the bayou itself, but others seemed to point to the Baptiste family. Elzora herself implied it went much further back than Mozelle. I’m sure envy, lust and greed were the culprits. They usually are.

Completely agree…. They lost the love for creating good movies …

Right.... On Lifetime Movie Network They May

Janae, we got that and fully understand southern customs, with families from the South and being Louisiana Creole. That said, the point we were making is the audacity that in the midst of wrongdoing, the innocent child is compelled to come from the position that she was wrong. That was the overarching point and context for that aspect of the discussion.

Oh i totally agree yet, as wrong as they were… I can appreciate Eve’s spirit- children don’t lie so they were BEYOND CALLOUS but the decorum remains with possible threat of corporal punishment. I think that dad rested on the laurels of the fear he knew was involved. Had it been the oldest child that caught them, things would’ve gone differently, I don’t think she would have apologized. Those days were about secrets…. 2022 eyes on decades ago brings a different idea of the action that unravels the past in impossible ways. I’m just glad we’ve learned from a lot of it.

Lol back in those days? You mean the 90s?

​@@KayReign dude the movie is set in the 60s...but yes, the sentiment applied to some children of the 90s as well.

@@AxiomAmnesia here’s a good question did Eve later on and avenge her father like 10- etc yrs down the road given that’s traumatic,I’m just saying that’ll be a good question to ask make a video about…

More children should get awards for acting. It’s rarely done.

Thanks for watching!

Scared me too growing up.

This was my favorite movie as a kid tbh me and my sister favorite

Me too 🫣

I mean any kid should be disturbed there’s death , a girl kissing her own dad which is disgusting

😂😂😂😂 so true and got the taste smacked out of her mouth.

Yes red lipstick!! aha

I'm 23, my grandmother still NEVER let's me wear red lipstick

@@treyonay exactly heaven forbid

@@zoraidacastro2703 Chiiile the scandal

Thanks so much! 😊

Omg. You are so right. I had never noticed. Wow. Great fun fact.

Feast of All Saints is one my my all time favorite movies! This is Cheri. :-)

After reading Feast of All Saints, I got the suspicion that Anne Rice is a white passing Creole. How could she know so much about the culture unless it is her culture.

Out of all of her books I did wonder WHY she chose that subject!

I LOVED FOAS! I saw it as a child and revisited it this year in my 30s and appreciated it so much more!

@@ivymoss7383 …Creole is not a race. Creole is having French, Native and African heritage. Many Creoles also have Cajun heritage. Most old Creole families were in the same phenotypes. Anne Rice is a native-New Orleanian like Ellen de Generes.

Cissily was manipulating Eve before she lied on her dad, though. She called her rabbit before she lied and said she could never be upset with her but she was always annoyed with Eve when Eve wanted to share her dad's attention with her. Did she even call her rabbit any other time in the movie?

Same

Its a real disorder i learned about in human growth devp. class, its where the child wants to take place of one parent and be with the other parent

The father made her daughters compete one another over him. Older one got confused because he made her a care taker and she was acting as his wife and cared for him emotionally. He made her feel like she is better consultant than her mother. It’s all him not her. Even if she went for an adult kiss, that’s him making her doing that.

@@laphatty1 yes it's is I read about it

Darius that was excellent cinematography!

I agree it was nicely done.

Yes they did!!!

The whole cast is top tier, but Meagan and Jurnee are exceptional, particularly when you keep in mind how young they were.

So, who bought that for her in the first place?

@@DocStewie77 she did when she went to get her hair done and went shopping

She was embarrassed because of what she did to him and she slapped her

He was SA her

@@theREALESTrealistUNPOPULAR No.

I watched another video saying she was being groomed by him and it went too far that night. I NEVER saw it that way until then and I just watched it a couple weeks ago. While I don't believe that's what happened, I do see how one could think that.

That is exactly what happened. Otherwise the “period” starting the next day is completely random. Also there is a deleted scene where the disabled uncle saw what happened.

Just for a bit of context here... This is a fan theory and our fan theories only consider what actually made it to the film, not interviews or deleted scenes. Fan theory aside, I do appreciate the take that Mozelle was able to read Eve and she pretended not to see it. That's interesting and I like that possible angle. However, she reads Eve after having been the one to comfort Cisely, and it didn't take having the gift of sight to see that Cisely was acting like she was a victim of something. You can see it in the scene and how she witnesses Cisely's response when Louis tries to touch her and see what's going on. Given this blaring clue, I refute the notion that Mozelle actually read Eve. Even with the common interpretation of the film a point was being made by the fact that Mozelle COULDN'T read Eve. So, I believe Mozelle confronted Louis based on what she directly saw with Cisely's behavior. Also, I do not believe that Louis was grooming her. I completely reject that idea and I think it tempting to latch on to that idea because in 2022 when so much abuse has been uncovered and is spoken about openly, many people see the world through the lens of a predator. From a literary perspective, it's important to remember that this is a work of fiction, and the implication that Louis did something to Cisely pulls the viewer in and makes the viewer side with Eve that something bad should happen to Louis because of what the viewer believes he did until the very last minute when we discover that it wasn't true. If we take the approach that Louis did the unthinkable, that completely ruins the genius of the writing. To me this is more evidence that Louis was not grooming Cisely. True, he was a chauvinist pig, but I don't think he did that to his daughter.

@@AxiomAmnesia Cicely was definitely SA'd by her father. The signs were there, bucking up to her mother, always siding with her father. Waiting up late for him. Even emulating her mother somewhat with the lipstick and change of hair style. The long baths she would take. And the blood in her underwear, her shrinking back and away from her family barely speaking. The elektra complex is what we call it. And is the opposite of the odiepius complex. "Daddy's girls" The elekctra complex is where Father and daughter team up against Mother, having inside jokes between each other and making snide remarks to and about Mother. Cicely only ever acted the way she did from the abuse, and because she obviously saw her parents weren't getting along, and mostly blamed her Mother, due to her father's influence. She probably thought her father giving the attention to her would make him stay home more or at least, not leave the family completely. She's angry with her Mother- not only because she's close witn her Dad. But because she feels unprotected by her Mother. Her Mother probably knows or has an inklining the inappropriate relationship between them but won't say or do anything. Cicely feels hopless and obviously still engages to keep her Father's attention at home. But in my opinion. She was definitely SA'd by her father.

Klairel, did you see the part of the video where we mentioned the Elecktra complex? Ant any rate, I understand your opinions. I vehemently disagree about the SA for the reasons I've stated before. And what about the fact that this is a work of fiction that uses our anger at Louis for what we think he's done to make a big reveal in the end that what we and Eve thought was incorrect? Let's think about this more deeply for a moment.

@@AxiomAmnesia I got up to the 59:48 time stamp. So if you did mention the complex I didn't see. Apologies. But again, just my opinion. Eve's Bayou is one of my favourite films and I watched it a few times and my opinion still stands about Cicely being SA'd by her father. I also think Mozelle saw something when she touched Eve's hands but played it off. Mozelle had the same look she gave Eve after touching her hands, as she did with Elzora's character when Roz was getting a reading.

No worries. That's the beauty of art, I e can interpret it however we choose. Thanks again so much for watching. I know this was a really long video ! 😊

Thanks!

That is quite possible. The Batiste's were doing things that would make people upset with them for sure!

Very good theory 👌🏽 Elzora knew Voodoo tradition it was, Mozelle that went to Elzora for love spell

exactly . now what if elzora was the wife of one of mozelles men && placed the curse on her && the family

@@angyllhazel Interesting! I was thinking that Elzora didn't place the curse on Mozelle, BUT if Mozelle took Elzora's man long ago then I can understand why Elzora did it. However, I don't think so. Why would they not put that in the script? That would make the film more interesting.

@@angyllhazel pineapple thief. That’s what I was wondering but not wife, maybe sister, aunt, cousin. Especially if she was related to the one that was killed by the jealous lover. Like, “since my brother died because of you, you’ll never be happy with anyone.”

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Yes. It Popped Up On My Timeline To.

I know what you mean. I have it posted somewhere on another site that this is my favorite movie. So glad this review was promoted 🥴🙃🥴🙆🏿‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

I LOVE THIS!!!! Yes! I couldn't agree more. Thanks so much for watching this super long video and weighing in with even more details that make sense with this theory!

@@AxiomAmnesia omg! yall read my super long response! lol Thank you for giving our classics an artistic and nuanced outlook. You guys are my favs!

You're so welcome! ❤️

NO LIES TOLD HERE!!!!

The mother knew what was going on, but culture, society, and maybe fear of losing her financial and social standing and embarrassment to confront it. As a child even won't be as affected by these things. Also she doesn't idolize her father like her mother and sister do. I think that was lost when she saw her father cheating on her mom.

Hey EB and thanks for watching! :-) Did Cisely react violently to getting her period or was this simply a stressful time in her life with the family stresses and reaching puberty? I ask this because I remember when I "became a woman" (maybe TMI but I gotta make my point LOL). I woke up that morning and there "she" was. Even though I had been prepared for what would happen, when it did I felt sad and had mixed feeling about all the changes my body was going through. I'm saying this to say that there are indeed other explanations for why Cisely would be in a bad mood after beginning menstruation--and that's without all the stress she was going through.

She wasn’t sa - watch Mozelle’s reaction to Eve when she tells her about the drowning woman dream. Mozelle normally has a close relationship with Eve but at that last scene, she distanced herself from Eve.

I hear you on that! Actually, Mozelle was always daydreaming while she was engaging with Eve. She did this the night she tried to read Eve on the porch too! Maybe this happens because she is visited by spirits a lot.

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@@AxiomAmnesia Mozelles monologues are like poetry…she loses herself when she reminisces about the past…it’s definitely daydreaming. I can’t even begin to tell you how much I can relate to this movie..it’s really autobiographical minus the cringey molestation stuff😂. The way I’ve adopted ‘And they were rubbing’ into my vocabulary always leaves people tickled.😂 I am the descendant of Eve and John Baptiste….except I wasn’t named for her.

@@voodeux_badeux Yes! I couldn't agree more!

@@AxiomAmnesia she actually said it on the balcony with Eve...she said and I quote...'I almost forgot you were there!'...#boom

Honestly, I am thinking that. Moz is beautiful and I wouldn’t be shocked if she took a man away from her

Ohhhhhhhhhh, that’s probably right. I never thought about that.

I honestly think the women of that family is cursed. If Cicely’s father didn’t SA her then what are the odd of you having child that is sexually attracted to her own father…

@@tiffanymarie413 Elzora is also beautiful

Very likely.....

Ms True Ty, THIS is the best explanation I've heard this far that the folks who wanna insist Louis did the unthinkable with Cisely should read! I'm so sick of people in these comments trying to say he was grooming her. A WTF moments characterizes it perfectly. Thank you for weighing in in this! 😊

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This is the one!! My thoughts entirely and the most accurate observation in my opinion! I don’t believe at all he was SA-ing her. For many people our first introduction of our love map begins with our parents and how we see them. I believe that Cicely definitely had missplaced and confused feelings for her father. There is an actual word for that too.

@@AxiomAmnesia I completely agree! There’s a woman on RU-vid that does very similar reviews and I think her video is the one where people got that idea that Louis was crossing those boundaries. I like some of her videos but often times her theories are a bit extreme in my personal opinion.. but yes this has to be the best comment I have read!

@@Jantis_Atlantis electra complex (female) child opposite for the (male) child is Oedipus complex

I like that the film is open to our different interpretations. That's part of the beauty of art. Whatever you get out of it is what happened. The same with music lyrics and even the Bible.

That would be amazing!!!

Hi Michele! Thanks for watching. Yes, I agree with you, as I mentioned in the video, that Elzora didn't do anything with the money Eve gave because she didn't need to. She knew Louis was already gonna be dead.

I completely agree!

Yes!!!! An opportunity to see a meghan Goode and Jurnee together again

Me too!

I haven't seen this movie in a while but I don't remember Roz ever finding out about that situation. She thought it was about what she did.

@@heatherL4834 The father mentioned in the letter that she seemed to wonder if he did something to their daughter and he said he would never harm his most precious child. Roz wasn't 100% sure something happened but she did question it. Honestly, I can see other mothers wondering as well given Cicily's behavior almost like a grown woman competing with her own mother for her father.

@@happygolucky8869 Oh ok. I think I might rewatch this over the weekend.

The mother never suspected it. All she knew was he was a cheat.

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Thannk you so much and we appreciate you taking the time to watch! :-)

That'll definitely be a good idea for a part 2.. the way they mean mugging each other at the carnival made me wonder the same.. maybe they viewed one another as competition 🤷🏾‍♀️

@@AlwaysInAMudfuckamouth96 those were definitely the vibes i was getting

Thanks for watching Joy. It could be that the curse started with the elder Eve. There are so many possibilities!

I love this!

You mean Sicily.

@@Cashffirmations they’re referring to when moselle asked to see eve’s hand so she could see what was wrong with Cecily

Well Mozelle was asking for Eve's hand to see who she wanted to kill with voodoo. Eve refuse to say why she wanted to know how to kill, then Mozelle tried to read her to see what she was hiding.

@@AxiomAmnesia you are so right I need to rewatch!!

Yes, she could read her (and she did in that moment). Remember at the end, the content of the unsent letter Louis writes to Mozelle is an attempt at explaining the incident and he stated that he was hurt that Mozelle would go that far to accuse him of assaulting his daughter. No one else would have revealed this incident to Mozelle. Eve definitely kept her word and Cicily was already out of town. She got the information from that reading but just pretended not to, to keep it a secret and to perhaps lessen the burden of truth and shame, mirroring how when Eve told her about the affair with Maddy, she threatened her to keep it quiet. You could see the shock on her face when she found out.

Your last line made me 😂. Yes, the idea of a consequence for ones actions is clearly the intent of the common interpretation of the film, and that cannot be ignored. The fan theory just looks at the film from another angle. In my mind it's ALL connected... Actions, consequences, interventions, and expectations.

@@AxiomAmnesia Thank you for your reply, love the channel!!! And I can definitely see what you mean it’s all theoretical!

Well said ❤

But you can tell her dad was definitely abusing her which is why Cecile felt like that towards him

I don't think that is true Ja Ma.

@@jama3997 naw cicely’s mother was to upset to usher her daughter into womanhood. Cicely wanted to do her mothers job and keep her dad happy. He never saw his daughter other than his daughter. He didn’t help by allowing this behavior tho

Totally agree

That's not how I interpreted it. When she tried to read Eve, she got blocked in a nasty way--she wasn't expecting this and that's why I believe she was startled. I believe that Mozelle's accusations against Louis came directly from her own observations of Cisely when she was in her bedroom and Louis came in to check on her and she rejected him. Mozelle tries to read Eve after having been the one to comfort Cisely, and it didn't take having the gift of sight to see that Cisely was acting like she was a victim of something. You can see it in the scene and how she witnesses Cisely's response when Louis tries to touch her and see what's going on. Given this blaring clue, I refute the notion that Mozelle actually read Eve. Even with the common interpretation of the film a point was being made by the fact that Mozelle COULDN'T read Eve. So, I believe Mozelle confronted Louis based on what she directly saw with Cisely's behavior. Also, I do not believe that Louis was inappropriate with her. I completely reject that idea and I think it tempting to latch on to that idea because in 2022 when so much abuse has been uncovered and is spoken about openly, many people see the world through the lens of a predator. From a literary perspective, it's important to remember that this is a work of fiction, and the implication that Louis did something to Cisely pulls the viewer in and makes the viewer side with Eve that something bad should happen to Louis because of what the viewer believes he did until the very last minute when we discover that it wasn't true. If we take the approach that Louis actually did the unthinkable, that completely ruins the genius of the writing. To me this is more evidence that Louis was not inappropriate with Cisely. True, he was a chauvinist pig, but I don't think he did that to his daughter. And, in fact Cisely WAS the victim of being backhanded by both her mother and father in the face on the same day. That would have devastated any young lady who had never been chastised in such a way.

@@AxiomAmnesia so how do you explain the bloody Panties?

She started her period. Any menstruating woman/girl has had blood in her panties before. C'mon. And the first time you start, you're likely to wake up with it... Mishaps in panties is a NORMAL occurrence throughout a woman/girl's reproductive years.

Correct. As well as it being knocked on as avirgin

Like I said, that's not how I interpret it, and clearly you see it differently. That's the beauty of art. We can each think what we want and not be " wrong".

Damn good video hold up the chick who called Louis house was that matty stating he impregnate her??? Cause Roz mention babies or something? I miss this watching the movie…

I don't think it was necessarily Maddie because I feel like Roz would have mentioned it was her. Thing is, Louis had a bunch of "patients" around town, so it could have been any number of women. And when he'd get the women knocked up, he'd "fix" the situation. Just scandalous!

Nice video, pineapple theif

This is classic southern culture. Those of us from the south already knew how to analyze things bc this is how we really grew up despite what the media shows.

If you say so, but the comments say different.

Thank you so much for watching and thanks for sharing your thoughts. I couldn't agree more! 😊

He cursed himself & family cheating sleeping with different women. The land is cursed as well with evil history of slavery.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Just a gentle reminder that this is a fan theory. We already fully understand the traditional or common interpretation on the film. That was necessary in order to to craft an interesting fan theory. Consequently, I wouldn't argue with most of what you've said. What you're talking about is the traditional interpretation. What we are describing in this video is a fan theory or alternate interpretation of the film. While there is SOME overlap in the breakdown we did, there are points where our fan theory significantly departs from the traditional interpretation. Based on your comment, I'm not so sure this was clear to you. Thanks for watching and welcome to the channel. 😊

@@AxiomAmnesia I LOVE the fan theory presented by you guys and more so was commenting my own thoughts on the film. Your video made me think and rewatch the movie yesterday after originally seeing this video. I came back tonight and watched this a second time before writing my comment. I see a lot of people have mixed thoughts and theories on this movie. Others may see my comment and totally disagree with everything. Definitely was not trying to come off like the person who wrote/directed it, told me exactly what they were trying to convey… just was sharing my own thoughts and opinions. Again, I LOVEEEEEE the fan theory you guys came up with and it opened me up to view the movie again and question my own thoughts 🤍

Oh I didn't take it negatively, it's just that some people miss that this is a fan theory. I really enjoy these conversations about the movies we all love. In terms of the differing opinions, I think some folks are not looking at this work of fiction as a literary work... Everything you explained in your comment makes sense, which is why I had zero arguments with it. One thing I always like to see is supporting evidence from the film and good logical deduction when making claims. You've done excellently with that. ❤️

😆 Believe me, during editing, I too wished it wasn't as long! 😂 Thanks so much for hanging in there and watching the whole video! We appreciate the support and are glad you liked it!

Thanks for watching and so glad you found us too! I really hope little Poe was destined to avoid all the drama and heartbreak that the rest of his family went through. ❤️

Thank you!!! 😊

Thanks so much for watching and adding the context of the worth of that $20 that Eve stole! They were rich! LOL

Thank you!!!

Wow, thank you!

Welcome aboard!

Cool. What part? Do you like Skeleton Key?

@@AxiomAmnesia oh yes love it .

Thanks so much and glad you enjoyed it!😊

Thank you so much Lorena!

Give the movie another chance. It was an amazing film! Thanks for watching! 😊

@@AxiomAmnesia You are welcome. i will watch it again. BTW pineapple thief 😊

You're welcome and thanks so much for watching! 😊

Thank you for watching! 😊

You should! So glad you stopped by and thanks for watching!!!

Thanks so much and welcome to the channel!

Thank you!

Wow, very nice theory. I never thought of that. I thought that Mozelle and Lewis were both cursed and somehow she was freed by his death. Also, I thought that Mozelle read Eve's palm and could see Lewis' death planned by Eve. But I like your version better. Nicely done!

I've always personally viewed it as, at the root of it, the family's handling the realization and processing their family dynamic cracking and the girls handling the reality of the secrets being kept differently. I've seen a lot of people say they thought Louis sexually assaulted Cicely, but I think the reason she was so distraught was because she was processing the fact that, in finding out about Lois and Maddie, watching her parents marriage become shaky, she felt like, as the oldest, she felt like playing the role of a mature young woman and try to take on some of her mother's traits, the lines got blurred a bit and she panicked in her confusion. I think Roz was partially right about Sicily resenting her, which would be normal because she's trying to make sense of the situation and how to fix it what, even if it's not their job. I think Sicily hiding herself away in her room was a very important plot point as well. I think that when she started her period, she was still in the mindset that she had to play the perfect woman role to keep her father around the family. I thought she tried to hide that away from him because in her mind, that would mean that she's not perfect anymore and that Louis would divorce the family. I think but Sicily is kind of starting to be a been aware of why she took the course of actions that she did and made the decision to go get help, and to talk to someone to make sense of it. You could tell at the end she was coming to terms a bit with where the lines blurred within her confusion. I think I'm rambling, but I absolutely love this film and the way it portrayed perspective.

Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts on this. The blurred lines and faulty memories make it virtually impossible to say with all certainty what did or didn't happen between father and daughter. It leaves a lot to discuss!

Thank you!!! 😊

Great to hear from you and thanks so much! ❤️

Ohhh that's a great observation Taylor! And thanks for watching this really long video! I think they really took their time with so many details in this film. They did an excellent job.

I think it's on Tubi if you want to watch it again

Awesome! Thank you!

Our pleasure Kam!!! 😊

Thanks for checking this super long video! We appreciate you!