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A Gorgeous 1940's Omega Vintage Watch Restoration 

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In this video I attempt to repair and restore this non working Omega Automatic bumper watch from the 1940s and bring it back to life for another 30+ years. Will I succeed? watch to find out!
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@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
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@watchalot919
@watchalot919 2 года назад
I bought an old watch recently, to take apart and rebuild. I was amazed how many parts were left over, and oddly enough it didn't work
@venger910
@venger910 2 года назад
Nothing to worry about, Mike. Fatal doses of radioactivity are usually measured in sieverts, and the geiger counter was reading in microsieverts (1/1000000 of a sievert). For a bit of real-world relevance, microsievert exposure to radiation occurs in everyday life just by walking around, both from cosmic, natural, and man-made sources, usually in the 30-60 microsievert range. Precautions are always wise, however, since you wouldn't want to breathe in powdered radium.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Thank you for the reassurance! I can get anxious quite easily sometimes. I don’t trust the reading on the phone app but it’s enough to tell me it’s a hot dial. Thanks for watching
@RmDIrSudoSu
@RmDIrSudoSu 2 года назад
@@MyRetroWatches On a plane the reading goes casualy to ~4.0 and more µSv/h and studies show that there are no increase in cancer diagnostic for on board personal. But here as Markus said you ought to be really careful about the powdered radium which can go into your lungs and stay there. Other than that, you won't get anything from these readings. Smokers get way more radiation than that on a daily basis.
@littlejackalo5326
@littlejackalo5326 Год назад
Zero risk. It's like the people that worry about a tiny amount of lead pain or asbestos, or the ones who wear a respirator to spray paint something for 15 seconds. All completely unnecessary. Absolutely zero risk, even with a brand new radium dial, unless you scrape it off and snort a line of it.... And then do it with about 1000 more dials. They're called "OCCUPATIONAL hazards," because they are hazards to those who work with the substance as an OCCUPATION.
@hoffmancapote
@hoffmancapote 2 года назад
Great video Mike. Because you take your time it is really helpful for the learner. Concerning radium and tritium dials which are less radioactive unless one has dozens of dials it is not a problem but with numerous dials it is best to keep them verntilated because of the gas they give off. I have a couple of watches with tritium dials and not concerned about the risk. IWC were using IWC tritium dials until the early 2000s and when I had a black replacement for my IWC They gave me the white tritium dials as a replacement. The risk was always mainly for the workers who had to manufacture them. Although you will still hear alarm stories from some scientists. I live in a 19th century house and I am more concerned about the radioactivity from the house than the dials even though Shropshire is a low radium area
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Thank you Brian for you compliment and also your explanation on the dial . I kind of knew it’s fairly safe however I’d rather handle responsibly and then wanted to show some of this in the video also. Some newbies don’t even know about radium
@papemoe
@papemoe 3 месяца назад
Thats a pretty watch
@martinstabb7059
@martinstabb7059 2 года назад
Hi Mike. Thanks again for this video. I’ve just acquired a 1949 Eterna Matic which undoubtedly has remnants of radium on the hands so I’m going to be ultra careful. For your further edification, an alpha particle is essentially a helium nucleus: 2 neutrons and 2 protons.
@martinstabb7059
@martinstabb7059 2 года назад
Hi Mike, you’re right to be cautious. Radium is an alpha emitter, which is a large, relatively heavy but slow moving particle. It can be stopped by the crystal and even your own skin. It should not be inhaled, ingested or allowed to enter a wound as it can cause damage to a healthy cell. Tritium is a low energy beta emitter which is a light but very fast moving particle. Again, the crystal provides protection but if you do gat a small dose then, being an isotope of hydrogen with a strong affinity for water, the dose will essentially be to the whole body, and you will very soon pee it away.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Thank you Martin for your detailed explanation. I knew you guys in the comments would help me!
@cymaz100
@cymaz100 3 дня назад
If you were living over granite, you’d be saturated with radon everywhere
@TristanColgate
@TristanColgate Месяц назад
Am sure you're already sorted in this area but regarding cameras for macro, from my experience, that's one area where Micro Four Thirds cameras can be a win. They are generally cheaper, good for video, and lenses are a good bit smaller too. And for macro the 2x crop factor is actually an advantage.
@christophervelonis2365
@christophervelonis2365 2 года назад
Do you have a mido 917p project on the corner? I cant find assemb/dissasemb videos or sheets anywhere ; / Can you show us your recording equipment too? :D Keep up the good work man.
@avianfish8732
@avianfish8732 Год назад
Its just alpha and beta radiation, it does not have much ability to penentrate even a watch glass. Ingestion is the danger, dust gas, bits that fall off. It does have a half life which is partly why it goes brown but half life is kind of exponential. So it wll still have some active stuff in 100 years. Generally speaking dont disturb it. Dont put any debris into the environment etc..
@rbmwiv
@rbmwiv 2 года назад
If it were Tritium it has to be encapsulated in a glass tube with fluorescence coating and the gas makes them glow like a fluorescent bulb. Radium’s a different kind of radiation then tritium which is so weak paper will block it also tritium quits glowing 12-25 years depending on the tubes that are used. Both my tritium watches have the T100 tubes that are suppose to last for 25 years.
@jasonsoots7047
@jasonsoots7047 2 года назад
Could you have demagnetized the entire movement at the time you found the first magnetized part?
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Well yes but in my experience its best to do the parts as you cant always reverse the magnetism as easily with the whole movement.
@jamespenson8912
@jamespenson8912 5 месяцев назад
I really enjoy your videos and I learn much from each one! Thank you! I prefer vintage watches so getting to see the pieces you work on is a real treat.
@vanderdole02
@vanderdole02 Год назад
My wife has one, that doesn't work either :( It runs for 20 sec per minute...weird..
@crazysdk
@crazysdk Год назад
When you are looking at the gunk on the pallet fork, the gunk on the banking pin is preventing it from moving all the way over so the escape wheel isn’t able to get past the pallet fork jewel. Pretty sure that was the original problem.
@briandugan4171
@briandugan4171 2 года назад
Really pleased for you Mike. Great work. Thanks for videos. We love you
@Tito_Viera
@Tito_Viera 2 года назад
Humm those black fingers add some "film noir" vibe to the video.
@kevinorr6880
@kevinorr6880 2 года назад
I tuned 8n to this and immediately determined that I could never afford an Omega…out…
@steve1811uk
@steve1811uk 2 года назад
Really pleased for you Mike. Great work. You're not alone, my wife also doesn't get it :)
@darrentabor4839
@darrentabor4839 2 года назад
I own 3 similar Omegas. Thank you, Mike!!! I know it will be years before I have the courage to attempt to service one, but I will save this video for that day.
@peterholzapfel6912
@peterholzapfel6912 Год назад
An Omega automatic from the 40s? 🤔 Until 1948 Rolex had a patent here... However, lovely old watch.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches Год назад
Well it’s from that era, it’s a bumper rather than a full 360 rotor . They clearly didn’t patient that as you can google 1940s bumpers and find plenty for sale. First bumper watch was in the 1920s. This Omega accurately dates to 1944 from the serial number on the movement. Rolex patient I believe was for a fully automatic 360 rotor.
@dinizbortolotto
@dinizbortolotto 2 года назад
Great job Mike, I really like your videos. I'm laughing with myself now. I realized that RU-vid is playing out of sync. At 43:05 we can hear click and train wheel before you touch the watch. :-D :-D
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
I hope it was YT out of phase and not my video itself
@MrSloika
@MrSloika 2 года назад
The radium paint from an old watch dial is only dangerous if ingested Unless you're in the habit of licking watch dials, or scraping off the radium paint and snorting it, you have nothing to worry about. For example, the story of the 'Radium Girls' took place at the US Radium Corporation factory located in Orange, New Jersey, about 25 miles from where I currently reside. During the 1920s the factory employed hundreds of girls in the task of painting watch dials and other instruments with radium based luminescent paints. They girls, who painted on average 200 watch dials per day, pointed their brush tips by twirling the brushes between their lips. They ingested large amounts of radium in this manner, which their employer KNEW was dangerous. Negative health effects of radiation depends on how much radiation one is exposed to, or how much radioactive material is ingested. My neighbor did occupation duty in Japan after WWII, and he visited Nagasaki in 1946. I've scene a photo of him standing at ground zero Nagasaki from that time. My neighbor is still alive and nearing 100 years of age.
@BryanO92
@BryanO92 2 года назад
One Sievert of exposure carries a lifetime risk of approximately +10% of developing cancer at least 10 years on. You measured a peak of 8.2 microSieverts per hour. As long as you don't eat off of it, I think you will be fine.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Thanks for the reassurance. Not confident the phone geiger is accurate but at least its not a dangerous level.
@E4rthDweller
@E4rthDweller 2 года назад
The radiation emmitted by the dial is insignificant. We are normally taking a dose of about 10uSv/day from background radiation alone. If the dial is enclosed in the watch case, the radiation readings will go even lower than 4uSv/h. Back in the 20's and 30's, there were factories that employed people to paint dials manually. Those people were instructed to "dip-lick-paint" the dials, therefore by doing this on repeat, every day, caused severe radiation sickness and tissue necrosis, which in most cases, had lead to death. Factories had been sued for this in an attempt to ban radium dials, but they won every time. Radium dials had finally been banned in the 70's. Nowadays, luminous dials are being made with synthetic superluminous compunds based on phosphorus and tritium.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Thank you for the reassurance. I do not trust the reading on the phone but all I knew is don't eat the stuff. I take precautions to make me feel better. Thanks for your explanation and thank you for watching.
@iconartDOTca
@iconartDOTca 2 года назад
Do watch people think that a watch crystal blocks radioactivity or something? I’ll put it in this radioactive container but I don’t mind wearing it on my wrist for forty years or scraping it off apparently. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
I cant answer this. I have read that gas can build up in the case but my theory on this would be only if all the gaskets were working correctly which on vintage watches I would doubt. I certainly would not be re-luming hands that I had to remove radium on.
@steveblake8766
@steveblake8766 2 года назад
717 Thumbs up Would have been nice to ACTUALLY see the watch running, not just stills. Would have been good to re lume the hands to get rid of most of the radium.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Yes sorry I made the mistake of stills. I’ve done stills for years on the channel and only more recently running video. I was just in a hurry to publish this one and I only see daylight at this time of year at weekends to film
@watchmedraw4340
@watchmedraw4340 2 года назад
This is awesome. I have only one question about the lume.. does it glow at all. I got negative comments about watches from my family that I'm not going into detail about but it is defiantly a personal interest lol. I will someday get my first Omega. Maybe the thread/hair/string was wrapped around one of the wheels before cleaning and the cleaning loosened it. Gold movements are awesome and Omega is more awesome.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
It does not glow. I believe it degrades and will only glow properly for something like 5 years.
@amillionmileride
@amillionmileride 2 года назад
It is a 1944 Trésor. I am currently restoring one myself. More specifically, this is the precursor to the Seamaster.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Thank you
@adrianbaggott6261
@adrianbaggott6261 2 года назад
Really enjoyed this video, I was particularly interested in the dial lume as I knew nothing about the radioactive lume, and have cleaned old dials by licking a bud and rubbing over the dial several times, won't be doing that again and will definitely take more care next time I open an old watch.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
No licking dials mate!
@Gazpacho8
@Gazpacho8 2 года назад
The annual safe number of Micro Sieverts is 1000. So at 8 you'll be ok.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Thank you. I dont trust the reading on this counter but still good to know its safe as long as I don't decide to eat the dial!
@aliwho
@aliwho 2 года назад
Hi I'd like to see more in depth like the winder and the hair sorted
@ShaunSommer
@ShaunSommer 2 года назад
Don't know if it was just me but the sounds was out of sync
@gcarlson622
@gcarlson622 3 месяца назад
That little trick about leaving the click in is really helpful, thank you so much for saying that.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 месяца назад
Most welcome
@ivanhoe6366
@ivanhoe6366 Год назад
Strange number 2"s on dial.
@WorldView22
@WorldView22 Год назад
A great vintage timepiece but I simply can’t help being constantly aware of how dangerous these are due to all this radium paint on the dial and hands. It's rather certain that radium was used here due to the watch production date. Unlike tritium and promethium, radium has a half life of 1600 years and retains very high bio-toxicity in all forms (α, β, Χ, and γ due to decay), both from particles and in gaseous form, for thousands of years. The reading you got from that tiny semiconductor dosimeter is very inaccurate and only reads strong γ/Χ emissions with a nominal -/+30% error, so expect at least 2-3X higher γ/Χ reading if using proper equipment with decent sensitivity, plus detecting α and β emissions; for comparison, 5-10μSv(uSv) is the average dose received from a set of dental radiographs. Unlike γ/Χ rays, α emissions (and to a large extent, β emissions) can be blocked even by a piece of paper, so readings from even a few centimeters distance or having the dial behind plastic can be misleading, especially with a toy-like geiger meter. I'd recommend getting a proper dosimeter than can read α and β rays in addition to γ/X radiation; it costs about $250-350 and it's a relatively reliable way to detect radioactivity in old watches (and other artifacts). You seem to be aware already of some of the dangers and taking some sensible precautions, but I'd like to stress that you need to be extremely careful with radium. There is nothing in such a watch to prevent tiny particles from slipping into the mechanism and case, so unless you are ready to handle the watch as a whole as radioactive, I'd strongly recommend against servicing (or even owning more than a couple of) watches produced between 1900 and early 1970s that have radium paint on the dial or hands. Take care.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches Год назад
Thanks for your concern, the way I see it is to handle with care, people can be too scared of these and the reality is you don’t see watchmakers all dying in high numbers due to working on them. Even the radium girls story , sad as it was, they ingested quantities of the stuff daily. I just use finger cots once, use only one container to keep stuff in , when messing with the dial I wear a mask but I don’t really think that matters as I’ve yet to see any lume break off and even if it does I still have to ingest it before it would do any damage. I’ve already had cancer so could be more cautious than most (it was prostate and unrelated to this stuff) The phone app and tool is crap I know but it’s enough to be sure the watch your working on is radioactive or not. That said it’s pretty easy to spot. My understanding is it was banned in the 60s so I find it unlikely to be on any watches from the 70s. 70s is my era of collecting, mainly retro Japanese and none of these are hot at all.
@WorldView22
@WorldView22 Год назад
@@MyRetroWatches Radiation poisoning does not cause immediate health effects unless receiving extremely high doses, so you won't be able to make the link and correlation clinical studies are very tricky. Even most Chernobyl liquidators (Chernobyl 1986 nuclear accident) did not see any ill effects to their health until years later. The latency period is typically very long, so it's best to avoid exposure, if possible. In relation to horology, have a read at the 2018 article 'New Report Shows Radium Dials Might Pose Serious Danger' by Jack Forster at Hodinkee. I'm not an alarmist, Radium is no small time stuff and it was still in use until the early 70s since the industry itself voluntarily stopped using it, not forced by any legal authority to my knowledge. There’s no reason to panic, don’t have an anxiety attack over this, just posting this also for your viewers benefit. Best regards.
@Zotel_US
@Zotel_US 2 года назад
You should be fine, radium girls probably did thousands of watches and paint pots and brush licking. Any interest in me posting a 1970 Bulova automatic 17 jewel that stopped running for parts? Case is very rough...?
@1959Berre
@1959Berre 2 года назад
It may be prudent to open the watch outdoors, so the radon gas can escape that has been building up inside over the years. Radon is a decay product of radium. You don't want to inhale radon gas.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Very true. Fortunately this one arrived with the caseback off
@RyeOnHam
@RyeOnHam 2 года назад
It's a shame that they don't use Radium anymore. The paint and lume chemistry and technology has come a long way. I am certain that they could use radium more safely. In a past life, I was curator for a small air museum. We had two planes that where chock full of radium dialed instruments. We had to have the planes surveyed periodically to make sure they were still safe to enter. What a hassle. Nothing was glowing. All the lume that the radium was supposed to charge was deteriorated.
@MrGrentch
@MrGrentch 2 года назад
Sadly it would be almost impossible to use radium more safely. It's very 'hot' and is a strong gamma source(one reason why the lume in the old stuff is dead. It's burnt out). Unlike say tritium which is mostly beta radiation which won't go through the skin, gamma goes right through. Radium also decays into radon and other nasties and has a half life of 1600 years so is still as deadly today as when it was first produced. At one stage in the 50's strontium was used for a short time, but fears over that stopped its use. Then Promethium was tried, but mostly in military issued watches that were constantly serviced as the glow only lasted a couple of years. Tritium came next and is the safest and you can still get encapuslated tritium hands and dials today. Some of the Swiss brands and others started to label dials in the 50's. -R- for radium, -P- for Promethium, -T- for Tritium. If you see a tiny horizontal line near the 6 on the dial that's to state no strontium used, but likely still radium or tritium.
@100amps
@100amps 2 года назад
Worth the wait, Mike! Yeah, radium... Don't ask internet people, you'll just perpetuate some rather ridiculous misinformation. I do encourage you to find and read some (real) science about it though. Spoiler alert: you're gonna live. 😎
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
haha. Always thought I would live sometimes I loose control of my anxiety which I think came over in the video! I can get OCD with how I handle these otherwise I lie in bed at night wondering if I did it correctly. reasoning then goes out of the window until I calm down or the wife slaps me!
@100amps
@100amps 2 года назад
@@MyRetroWatches Nah, you sounded appropriately and reasonably concerned as someone should be when the danger is unknown. That geiger counter attachment was cool.
@dodgydruid
@dodgydruid 2 года назад
Sitting here reprofiling a spring bar hole in my second weirdly shaped Lorus Fusion Kinetic's, this one is more the starfleet shaped logo and in black whilst the other is silver and has a more Blakes 7 shaped case, both YT57 Kinetic's and just so crazy looking hehe One of my subscribers has sent me a Go Pro because the camera on me fone is just bad so am doing a comeback special and got a whole shoebox full of new acquisitions to show off.
@Inkreptile
@Inkreptile 2 года назад
The lume on seiko's is radioactive (old models 70s 80s do far that I've tested) but is a safe dose... Still experimenting with the stuff as I've figured out-ish how to whiten lume
@colinwillis7110
@colinwillis7110 2 года назад
According to Ranfft 30.10RA PC was made from 1942-1949 when changed to 330. 1944 would seem right. Always look forward to your videos.
@rbmwiv
@rbmwiv 2 года назад
I restored a 1985 tag Aquaracer and it had an aftermarket crown on it, was pitted and didn’t screw in, a new crown cost me $75 usd. But it was worth it to me, now it’s waterproof again and looks much better. Not to mention the relume, it had gotten water in it at some point all the lume was black. Only plus was it came off really easily.
@m1lk3yy
@m1lk3yy 2 года назад
I love the movement in this watch. I've been slowly getting in to repair myself and this is one that I would absolutely love to work on.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Good for you. Yes this movement was actually quite a simple one especially by Omega standards as in my experience they seem to like over complicating things on other models.
@dodgydruid
@dodgydruid 2 года назад
I got sent quite a fancy geiger from a Russian chap after he agreed with me that with so many dodgy Soviet items out there that I needed to vet my incoming stock before handling, it all came about when a watch I bought from Siberia pinged up the sensors at the Moscow international parcels departure unit. Seller gave me a refund without me even asking so guessing the men in long coats and tall hats had a word in his shell like. Thing is Russia has lesser radioactive protections than most countries so it is quite easy to end up with something slightly hot just nuking yer cells and certainly several of my sellers wouldn't know a geiger counter from a ginger chip so is quite scary.
@acsiii110
@acsiii110 2 года назад
Why do you not oil the pallet fork?
@restorationconstantines7731
@restorationconstantines7731 2 года назад
Beautiful👍
@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands
@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands 2 года назад
5-10 μSv: One set of dental radiographs....
@neatstep
@neatstep 2 года назад
Forgot to mention Mike, if you do have to relume some radium hands, you're welcome to do the scrape off etc in my fume cupboard (got it for an absolute steal off eBay) I'm not too far from Coventry 😉
@castellitony110
@castellitony110 2 года назад
excellent travail ! je possède une universal geneve polerouter avec le même mouvement 138s !!! Enfin il lui ressemble beaucoup !!👍
@valengreymoon5623
@valengreymoon5623 2 года назад
When de-magnetizing, a cheap compass will always tell if the job was done properly. The needle must not move when parts are held next to it. Even springbars have been known to be magnetized.
@TheUltimateRecycler
@TheUltimateRecycler 2 года назад
Great video Mike! I'm still wading through your older vids, but watch the current ones as they come up! I'm still yet to actually tackle a watch, but am currently working on a vintage swiss alarm clock for my channel 😊
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Thanks for watching. I’ve not dared to do a clock. Those mainsprings scare me!
@TheUltimateRecycler
@TheUltimateRecycler 2 года назад
@@MyRetroWatches Ha! Yeah, they can pack a punch!!😱😆
@freequest
@freequest 2 года назад
Look for lenses secondhand you don't need new ones. Generally, if you buy second hand of a Pro photographer, the gear will be in excellent condition. From what I have found.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
I am actively looking. might be a Canon M50 with a 24-105 lens but we will see. Everything is not cheap and then I have to figure out how to mount it given there is no room on my bench for a tripod.
@neatstep
@neatstep 2 года назад
I've been experimenting with various cameras over the past few months and am quite pleased with some of the results from the Sony ZV-E10 Aps-c mirrorless beasties with various macro lenses. As for mounting cameras, have you considered bolting a pole to the ceiling to suspend it above your bench? I have also been experimenting with this as well. It also helps with providing an additional mountings for lighting and preview monitors etc. I have yet to perfect this but it definitely seems the way to go. I won't go into the approach of using a Sony A6400 with genuine Sony macro lenses as this gets really expensive really quickly lol
@neatstep
@neatstep 2 года назад
Forgot to mention, you can also get some reasonable results with 4k USB webcams off of Amazon on angle-poise type arm to get your preferred view angle. Only downside being that they do tend to wobble a fair bit if you knock them whilst filming hehe
@adrianbirkett594
@adrianbirkett594 2 года назад
Well done Mike!, great video!. Don't give it back!!! 🤣. Adrian
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Wishful thinking . I have too many watches as it is though so sometimes its a relief to give them back
@adrianbirkett594
@adrianbirkett594 2 года назад
@@MyRetroWatches ah ya do great with them!, I am hoping to find one in a charity shop!!. Best regards. A
@marioguisandepelic1784
@marioguisandepelic1784 9 месяцев назад
IS IT WORKING ???
@Freki
@Freki 2 года назад
Hi, amateur watchmaker here, I watched your video about cleaning parts and I dont have propper cleaning solution, so I just used soap water with ultrasonic cleaner. Two watches later, I found out that some of the parts went black. especially screws, escape wheel, cannon pinion and some of the parts. Do you have any idea what could happen ? Idk if it the same problem, but when I'm cleaning the main spring in the same solution, after it is done and I place it on some paper, it leaks yellow brown stuff.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Too strong detergent most likely. I do not clean this way anymore as I have a proper machine . Mainspring you should remove from the barrel for cleaning . Do not clean while in the barrel as it will not dry out properly and will rust
@Freki
@Freki 2 года назад
@@MyRetroWatches Yeah I have the mainspring out of the barrel, I'm now scared that I destroyed the watch, because the small teeth in the train of wheels are black too. I will asseble it, oil it, and see if it runs. Thanks for the info, I will buy the correct solutions before I will do another watch.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
@@Freki I doubt it’s damaged the teeth. Depends on the quality of parts material. I have seen black parts before in my early days but it still performed
@Freki
@Freki 2 года назад
@@MyRetroWatches I found an interesting thing, before this watch I did cleaning of Seiko 7009-3130 Automatic and none of the parts went black, and this last one was Russian named Победа (Pobeda), I rembeber that few watches back I had one from russia too and only part that went black was pallet cock screw, so maybe the problem is that the material that they used is very sensitive to this kind of detergent.
@igortrinajstic92
@igortrinajstic92 2 года назад
Hi, my watch is from the same era. Number that starts with 10 000 000 is exactly from 1947,the year that Omega introduced automatic movement cal 344, 351 etc. Best wishes you doing great job, Many,many regards. igor😊
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches Год назад
thank you
@Sergeant_Fury
@Sergeant_Fury 2 года назад
You won't start to glow like Chernobyl any time soon, so relax.
@MrTech800
@MrTech800 2 года назад
ionised radiation is measured in milliSieverts/hour or mS/h depending on the isotope size alpha or beta. a safe level is
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
haha I can aluminate the night!
@dennisallport5704
@dennisallport5704 2 года назад
This is perfect timing because I have an Omega with a automatic bumper movement which is in need of a service. Thanks for the video showing how to get into it, Mike!
@wiredone2
@wiredone2 2 года назад
Great video Mike, pleased you got the watch going, always a pleasure to watch you work. I think you got the balance just right with the Geiger counter section, as some fellow subscribers have mentioned the levels of actual radiation are very small however this does not detract from the danger faced when handling a degraded dial or lumed hands as only one flake of radium injested can cause health problems. Interestingly this gadget was invented originally with help from the Japanese government to aid people living in the region surrounding the nuclear power plant disaster to test the levels of background radiation. I personally think it does enough to inform the presence of radium as it's not always obvious, and enables you to take precautions if you decide to dismantle the watch. You did a great job of showing that Mike. :)
@rodbonser
@rodbonser 2 года назад
Indeed, Neil. It is very important to avoid ingesting any radium (or it's decay products) dust.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Thanks Neil. Great comment. I didn’t know this was why the gadget was made. I also don’t think the readings are accurate at all but it can demonstrate a dial is hot and for the newbie who can’t yet spot Radium it’s a possible worthwhile tool.
@wiredone2
@wiredone2 2 года назад
@@MyRetroWatches Yes made for a fun segment, plus I get to be forever immortalised in the My Retro Watches Archive.. Nice :)
@unitedfools3493
@unitedfools3493 2 года назад
The Dollop podcast has done two relevant episodes regarding clock lume. One of was the sad story of The Radium Girls, which you've mentioned before. The other was the story of David Hahn, an American teenager, who built an illegal nuclear reactor in his backyard. :D As far as preowned cameras the Sony A5100 is a good budget option with many lenses available. The Sony A7 is a higher quality option worth looking at.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Thanks. I had also been looking at a Canon M50 as I had been told this is also a good camera. Now I have options so will hit RU-vid for reviews.
@dsb1763
@dsb1763 2 года назад
Hi Mike, no problem, but what happened to the cleaning montage? I miss and love the music you put to it.😁. Great repair! All the Best.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
It will be back in the next video! for this one I did the Geiger thing instead.
@mazunte5930
@mazunte5930 2 года назад
Top Mike! Finally an Omega ... ;-) Great Watches. I have also a Seamaster from the 70';
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Thanks
@AfternoonPlay
@AfternoonPlay 2 года назад
From where you mention looks-like-battery-acid at around 16 minutes, there is a long hair or fibre which appears to be trapped on top of the pallet fork that won't "tick" both ways. You actually touch it with your tweezers at 16:16
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Well spotted!! I completely missed that. Could well have been the main culprit. Thanks for pointing it out.
@paologiusti3582
@paologiusti3582 2 года назад
Great job Mike, as usual ! Why you didn't replace the crown with an original one? (it's too big in my opinion) The owner didn't like it?
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Budget.
@Jonthomme
@Jonthomme Год назад
Well done. I own a bumper. I still need to service it.
@davelowey3074
@davelowey3074 2 года назад
It might be 50s Mike it has incabloc shock protection. If the Omega dating chart came back with 44 it's probably right Mike,
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
I could not say. I ran the caseback numbers from the inside through some website to spit out the date. it was specific with 1944. I am sure the comments will light up soon enough telling me I have it wrong as there are lots of Omega fanboys out there. I have a love hate relationship with them for so many reasons. Thanks as always for tuning in Dave. always appreciated.
@darrencheshire8546
@darrencheshire8546 2 года назад
Great watch, well done for taking it on. Stay safe buddy
@davelowey3074
@davelowey3074 2 года назад
Very nice looking Omega Mike, hope it's the same on the inside and it just needs a service but that's wishful thinking. 🤞 bumper movements are ok i think first auto but i could be wrong, they're nice, unless parts are needed, full rotors are better but newer technology for their time they're the dog's you know whats, cheers Mike thank you. Wow comment 2
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Yes my understanding is bumper are early autos. The mechanism is simple too which is allot easier to fit than some auto works on other Omega I have worked on which can seem well over complicated. Probably why I like Seiko so much as they just simplify things to make it more practical and cost efficient.
@tedblack2415
@tedblack2415 2 года назад
Lovely piece & cracking results on a movement that age ,well done Sir i reckon you deserve a drink & a pat on the back especially putting the Omega demons to rest , i must confess i did miss the "montage" maybe i should get out more 😊.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Thanks. The montage will be back in the next video! I seem to have broken the Omega curse on this one but for how long that is the question....!
@bgdavenport
@bgdavenport 2 года назад
Catching up on your past videos. I really enjoy your candor and the commentary. I was thinking of another contest in which the winner allows you to service/restore their watch on camera. I imagine your viewers would spring for the postage/parts. I know I would. I have a small collection of Gruens, some of which need a good service and no restoration.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Something I may consider in the future. thanks for the idea.
@greendomeno6
@greendomeno6 2 года назад
Fabulous stuff Mike! You've not been beaten yet..I'll have to do better. I'm loving that tweed strap too mate I might have to grab one for it. Cheers matey
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Was a pleasure to work on one of your watches that was not so challenging to fix mate.
@hectorcortez3888
@hectorcortez3888 2 года назад
Love your work, can you tell me if you're just supposed to just push crown and stem into a nh35 movement with out holding down the little button that you push down win u remove the crown and stem out.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Can’t remember I’d think you would just push it in.
@aleksandrsstulpe65
@aleksandrsstulpe65 2 года назад
Thanks. Inside the watch looks much better. Very enjoyable.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands
@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands 2 года назад
Do a test on the concrete and bricks of your cellar.... those are usually radioactive if there is any granit in it.. just to scare you ;)
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Haha! You know I will try that now!
@KillerByte666
@KillerByte666 2 года назад
Another great restoaration with a "magnifique Omega" ! Good job M8 !
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Thank you! Cheers!
@plainclotheshorse224
@plainclotheshorse224 2 года назад
Great film. Glad to see you taking precautions with the dial and hands. Can I ask what main spring winder you were using?
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
I have a vintage set of Bergeon winders although I must confess I had to buy a new Number 6 handle to wind this spring as my old one had worn too much to hook the start of the spring into the winder.
@jooo270
@jooo270 2 года назад
Pallet fork Bridge looked. Like it had a crack?
@velviaman3206
@velviaman3206 2 года назад
Card “reflector “ painted with matte black paint is what I use. Good video keep em coming.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
for the reflection on the mainplate? I just have poor lighting that is in the wrong place and too bright at times for filming. I am hampered by lack of room on this rolltop bench I use to lay things out better.
@bullnose01
@bullnose01 2 года назад
Mike, the iconic "rose gold" hue of the Omega movement s imparted by copper.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
I see that now. I never script my videos so I say it now I see it so brass gold colour copper thingy …😂
@CheenaSingh
@CheenaSingh 2 года назад
Nice video Michael. Many thanks.
@jonabitstream
@jonabitstream 2 года назад
Why not polish the case?
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
To keep the authenticity.
@freequest
@freequest 2 года назад
Not sure if it would help but in photography, if the light is too harsh or we need to soften it a bit, we use a Diffuser. You can easily make one from plain white paper and wrap it around the light. Or form it into a box shape and put the light inside.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Thanks for the tip.
@andersmmvfc.8376
@andersmmvfc.8376 2 года назад
It's one of the best videos you have done so far! Really entertaining even for me who doesn't have the steady hand for watch movements but really like watches!
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Wow thanks for the high praise
@imjabroni1
@imjabroni1 2 года назад
I admit, I enjoyed your video, but it was like watching Mr. Magoo repair a watch. You must admit, bridges were never set on properly on camera and in the end showed still photos of a "running" watch! Jolly good show!
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Bridges were set… you saw the train all spin before I screwed it on. The barrel bridge just drops right in. What you fail to understand that with an overhead shot for filming I can’t see how I would normally if working on it without filming. You try it. You have to build a watch from a slight angle which does make bridges hard to place. It’s easy to criticise when your not actually doing it. You saw the watch running on the timegrapher which is proof enough is it not.
@imjabroni1
@imjabroni1 2 года назад
@@MyRetroWatches It wasn't meant as a severe criticism. I could never do what you do. All I was saying was that you didn't show us the bridge being set on camera. You dropped it from 2 MM high and moved on. I'm sure you got it set. Sorry.
@markwade1376
@markwade1376 2 года назад
Great video Mike, thank you.
@Bigpopasmurf34
@Bigpopasmurf34 2 года назад
a great watch to die for...or from, radium
@metalman4141
@metalman4141 2 года назад
Great work Mike, really enjoyed video 👍
@jamestamu83
@jamestamu83 2 года назад
Love the microscope images! That really takes it to the next level. Fascinating to see things at that high level of magnification!
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Thank you
@Fischi4711
@Fischi4711 2 года назад
The Harris tweed strap from Vario is real fun and an eye-catcher.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
They sure are. I need to get a few more.
@cosmindinu5323
@cosmindinu5323 2 года назад
Its just a little more radioactive than a banana. You are safe👍
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
haha brilliant. Thanks
@watchservicebd
@watchservicebd 2 года назад
❤️❤️❤️❤️
@neelsengupta662
@neelsengupta662 2 года назад
Fascinating to watch, Mike!
@hockeyrd99
@hockeyrd99 2 года назад
Great job, but after you put the spring in (before putting the rotor bridge back on) the rotor teeth jumped out of alignment with it's counter part... see 59:55 That's why the rotor didn't make it to the other spring when you moved it around. Easy to remove the rotor bridge and re-align the teeth.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
I will look into that. when wearing I can hear it knocking on each spring but wont be happy if its out of alignment. Like you say its an easy fix so thanks for this.
@hockeyrd99
@hockeyrd99 2 года назад
@@MyRetroWatches It will help the rotor wind the mainspring better.. I think the rotor only winds it in one direction.
@Alex-px2mb
@Alex-px2mb 2 года назад
This Omega movement is indeed interesting but I am surprised at the intricacy for such a basic watch. Particularly those screws and strange looking springs. It is a rare bird.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
To be honest I found this the least complicated Omega I have ever worked on.
@Alex-px2mb
@Alex-px2mb 2 года назад
@@MyRetroWatches I'm glad someone isn't intimidated by it! Hopefully some day I won't be!
@Alex-px2mb
@Alex-px2mb 2 года назад
Also one question if you don't mind: why do some watches have so many weights on their balance wheels like this Omega, while others in watches just as good have so few?
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Its how the balance wheel is balanced and adjusted. I do not know the in's and out's of the whole setup but you see it more in older watches. If you are changing hairprings then the spring needs to be harmonically balanced to the wheel, if not it will not run properly. These screws allow for that kind of adjustment. On other movements where you see a plain wheel, often on the underside there are 1-2 small drill holes where they have been balanced by the manufacturer.
@Alex-px2mb
@Alex-px2mb 2 года назад
@@MyRetroWatches Thank you that makes a lot of sense. Harmonic balancing is a major engineering pursuit. Bridges, driveshafts, engines, and it only makes sense that watchmakers are concerned with it as well.
@davidhammond9336
@davidhammond9336 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing this one Mike. Great work as usual, good tips as well.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 года назад
Thank you Dee
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