A Last Minute Turn Of Events For These Camping Entrepreneurs | SEASON 19 | Dragons' Den 

Not necessarily- there was a company that pitched for 1.5 percent and settled on 5 once

@@edward9643 True!

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Quite. You invest in a company because you are willing to take a risk and get a share of the profits commensurate with your investment. Why would an investor substantially cut their holding when it's giving a return?

It’s called negotiating, always try and get the best for you and yours

​@Sam-qh1sh true, but it was Debra being generous an they basically said no first.

​@@Sam-qh1shbut in negotiating, you still have to be realistic. When you go too low, the other person will simply walk away from the conversation altogether.

@@Sam-qh1sh: I don't think anyone would blame them for trying to get the best deal available but they was never going to get Deborah down to 5%.

Nah that was good negotiation. I would've gone even further and said "yeah well now it's 1%"

not greed just clueless in business

More like stupidity.

They probably would, although DM doesn't ever like to hear about reducing her percentage. It was funny though how they mentioned in a post interview their ceiling was 10%, but still wanted to reduce the dragon to 5%.

@@scienceevolves4417 even if Deborah had said no them asking for 20%, I dont think she would have cancelled the deal. The Dragons will either make a reasonable deal, or show understanding of the fact someones tried to make the deal. 5% or 10%, they got what they deserve.

I think the 25% with the same drop but to 20% when she got her money back would’ve been accepted. They really devalued her experience and what she’d bring to the table.

@@elvickRULESeven if it was not 20%, 5% is just an insult to Deboarh and what she has to offer

Lots of companies don't. It's a lot of voodoo magic in balance sheets. Particularly true for the service Industries because it's not like what when you sell widgets where you have a cost of goods sold and the price of good Souls oh, and your overheads and everything it's nice and simple. In a service industry, you're very often working cash accounting, Milestone doing, and your Revenue overtime looks like a Sawtooth. Traditional balance sheet it's not necessarily a reflection of what's actually going on

@@SiriusMined Yeah I agree. It's a snapshot of what the company owns and it's debts at the time

​@@SiriusMinedyeah probably, but when asked that question one would still be expected to know a few details here and there, and not just say they don't know anything?

@@scienceevolves4417 I get your point, but it's ridiculous that people aren't allowed to bring that information with them.

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They came only for the advertisement.

@@ZazooEel57 Disagree, they seemed absolutely gutted and disheartened by the mistake they made.

​@@ZazooEel57and they've made a terrible advertisement for themselves and their business

Definitely. Asking an investor to give back 75% of their shares after a while… it’s insulting, it’s like “we’ll use you then you’re basically nothing to us”. Not a way to build relationships even though they didn’t mean it in a mean way

Worth it?

They have done in the past. Deborah in the “remote workload” or “remote management” video, and whenever they feel like the entrepreneurs are prioritising another dragon

You have to add value to do that.

I heard they do. Im going to one soon and can't wait to "fire one off" from behind a hedge.

Gready?

Griedea

Gready? Meady? Meaden!

@@Shrooms-up6sv Jenny deal not to many

Yes, far too much gread.

The company is still active but in May 2022 they were given notice of compulsory strike off the register which was lifted in June 2022, they're listed on Companies House under the name of "Adventure Camp Limited"

@@Ken-Pthanks for the intel lol. What does strike off mean though

It can just mean they're behind on filling their accounts, it doesn't mean it's not preforming well.

CARL?!

He had a stroke his face? what is that?

" that BUSINESS is not Gona go anywhere when deb made them the offer " That makes no sense. Why would Deborah making them an offer make the business not go anywhere?

​@@BenjaminGoose Put a full stop after "anywhere" and a capital W on "when" 😉😆

😂😂 Touker makes me laugh.. I like him! 😁

More like never slap a gift horse in the mouth lol

Agreed. He's talking gibberish.

Or, the entrepreneurs were just really naive and poor negotiators

Bollox. This pair couldn't even organise glasto if their lives depended on it 😅

That does not mean they're making a profit, that means they sold tickets. There's no getting around the fact these 2 have zero business sense and made a critical error here.

Is not for free you know. She would have made the company profit after making loss each year. Their loss.

Big congratulation to you, what a start to your weekend! how will you celebrate this momentous moment?

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well done. Big future ahead of you.