A Look at 25 Maximum Term Contracts in the NHL

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Hey all and since we always debate long term contracts when they're signed, I wanted to make a video on the topic.
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Комментарии : 86

@bookhunter8187 3 дня назад

Carey Price's contract is interesting to discuss. It illustrates how having the guy signed into his late 30s doesn't mean he will play his entire contract...

@michaelpostsstuff9958 2 дня назад

Yup. They almost never do play the whole contract.

@bigbonedcartman7377 3 дня назад

Nobody can touch DiPietro’s 15 year disaster! He hasn’t played since 2012 and the Islanders are still paying him $1.5M until 2028 🤭

@derkaiserzen 3 дня назад

The Bobby Bonilla of NHL

@benderbendingrodriguez420 3 дня назад

@@derkaiserzenexactly what I was gonna say lol

@y6cd3sdzHs1g 3 дня назад

maybe he should haven't gone for that fight with Brent Johnson, eh

@Michael-pg7rv 3 дня назад

On top of that does he not have a second managerial contract as well?

@sotahullu1 2 дня назад

not as egregious but ville leinos contract was a damn shame for buffalo. I'm a finn and loved his play in philly. but that was such a terrible contract and he gave them nothing for it, absolutely nothing.

@ATHIP12 3 дня назад

PLD thought he'd be livin' it up on the beach. Now he can take his no-effort one-handed-stick-handling coasting-through-plays show to the new home of Capfriendly.

@LSA30 3 дня назад

As soon as we saw him coasting it in Columbus I knew this guy was a problem. Can’t believe someone actually paid him😂

@mikeb.2925 3 дня назад

He's looked good so far in Washington. Obviously he's never going to be an $8.5m player but hopefully he continues to be a $6m player. I think the organization would be happy with that.

@nyern 3 дня назад

@@mikeb.2925 Getting better value for money than Kuemper that's for sure

@liam_thegoat99 3 дня назад

Verhaeghe is a fantastic player, love his work ethic. Great shot too. Hope he keeps his production going for years to come.

@mgourley1234 3 дня назад

It's all a gamble, but as you said, GM's would rather have some reasonable long term clarity about how much money they have. If the guy that you signed for a 8 million cap hit blows out a knee and never plays again, you have to find people to fill the hole. If the guy that you signed for a 8 million cap hit crushes it for 6 years and gets you a Cup, you look brilliant.

@iliaponomarev1624 3 дня назад

If an 8M guy blows out a knee and doesn't play anymore, he's just on LTIR, and paid via insurance. I mean, you as a GM would always buy an insurance for such a contract, right? Right??? If an 8M goalie pulls a groin, can play, but never is the same 8M goalie again - then it's a trouble.

@disruptive7640 3 дня назад

Maybe this video will motivate Pettersson from looking like casper.....

@kill-animals 2 дня назад

Its well known Tocchet ruined Petterson's game. The system doesnt jive with created minded players, which is why Petterson excelled under Bruce Budreau.

@bmrs8424 3 дня назад

hellebuyck is on a 7 year deal, and that surprises me every time i think of it

@jonmendelson1104 3 дня назад

16:05 "It's not Anton." You're right that he doesn't go by Anton, but his first name is Carl and then he has two middle names - Filip and Anton.

@Andyyy48 3 дня назад

i feel like 6 mil is old 4-5 mil😄

@kurtwpg 3 дня назад

BTW, Hellebuyck isn't a maximum term.

@kurtwpg 3 дня назад

For the Jets your only option would have been Morrissey "Holy cow what a great deal".

@andytitcomb9463 3 дня назад

See the Sharks as a cautionary tale, however DW did tack on NMC or NTC to the 8 year deal that really made it difficult.

@Jon-gx6de 3 дня назад

Most people in Columbus think Severson is overpaid. Paid like a Top 2 D without the ice time or numbers. He hasn't been bad, but he hasn't been $6mil a year good either. TBF, he played under a horrible coach with terrible D structure last year, so that hurts the +/-, but the amount of times he was out of position or just flat out got beat last year was way too many for someone making his money. I'd be a lot less upset if he was at $4m and Gudbranson was at $6m. Gudy has incredible hustle and tremendous off ice leadership

@Tech_-on1ou 3 дня назад

Its been cleaned up quite a bit but good lord the Sharks were BURIED in 8yr contracts a while back. Handing em out like fuckin candy

@phil7121 2 дня назад

DW was getting really lazy and complacent just handing out 8x8s with full NMCs by default to any player he wanted to retain

@djfielding18 2 дня назад

not that it really matters since it is such a small thing, but Guenther will actually be 30 when the contract expires. Still playing on his rookie deal this year

@clydeblair9622 2 дня назад

No Yeti. Blizzard.

@JBTriple8 2 дня назад

they have been hinting at Yeti management and players Ryan Smith is probably looking at the designs before one them is finalized.

@chrisc5290 3 дня назад

Stutzle's contract is already a bargain

@Railblade 3 дня назад

Who am I to judge what a GM and a player negotiate to? Every year the cap goes up, the ceiling AND the floor, so the contracts will naturally follow. The difference is these days we're all much more aware of what the players are signed to, and we have the internet to discuss them. But the public's perception of the what the market should be will adapt, albeit slower perhaps than the movement of the market itself. Someday we'll be complaining about how a player makes $25 million per season and how another is a steal making only $17 million. The natural progression of linear time is afoot.

@patch8376 2 дня назад

14:37 FANTASTIC point (and one that could even usher in a rival pro league someday if they're not careful)

@sotahullu1 2 дня назад

jack eichel and his agent has been stupid smart with contracts.made a boat load of money, has won a cup. and can most probably ask for 11mil plus next contract with at least 15+ teams waiting for this one to expire. very glad for him, taken so much text down his back and yet he has everything as proof.

@WoozyPolarBear 3 дня назад

We also shouldn't be counting on the salary cup going up. A lot of teams are going to have revenue issues as they are losing Regional Sports Network TV deals, and thus a lot of money about to disappear.

@LuckBuck5192 3 дня назад

I think there will always be regional networks willing to get a check.

@WoozyPolarBear 3 дня назад

@@LuckBuck5192 Cable TV will be a thing of the past within 10 years. Just watch.

@ThrawnTheater День назад

I predict that Dylan Guenther will be a Lady Byng finalist/winner during his career. He seems like a really nice kid.

@pyrielrising4338 3 дня назад

I have a better question....If you were an owner would you allow your 80+ year old GM to sign max term contracts?

@cronoros 3 дня назад

Jerry Jones says yes

@jma.87 3 дня назад

Lou Lamoriello says, "Don't worry about my cap" 😅

@paulkeniston5699 День назад

I'm surprised the Stars are willing to make such a long term contract. I thought they learned a lesson from being tied to Benn and Seguin's diminishing value. Still, I am delighted to see Otter on board for another 8 years just like I was delighted when Benn and Seguin made their deals.

@4517onlyglory 3 дня назад

That guy's full name is Carl Filip Anton Forsberg so you are good

@Sw4ggB055 3 дня назад

Is Shannon short for Shannondoah

@philipcross6733 3 дня назад

Woulda liked to here thought on Mika’s 8 year that’s goes till he’s 37. Where he’s been good but also struggled on a cap tight team in the rangers.

@willhe 3 дня назад

As a VGK fan, I'm expecting Eichel to sign elsewhere in 2026.

@DeeJayObi 3 дня назад

Thomas' contract was bargain the day he signed it. No doubt. He's SO underrated playmaker with lethal wrist shot as well. And in my mind no doubt he'll be Blues next captain. Kyrou seemed much more risky. He was seen as a pure goalscorer with little to no versatility in his play. And last season just added to the doubts. But so far this season he's showing much improvement in his overall game that I get the risk by Armstrong.

@boblawblaw6875 3 дня назад

Well done for the Stars and Oetter. That contract will look like a steal in a couple years

@Razahoo7 2 дня назад

Goalies are weird and it can easily backfire. Also the position with the most career ending injuries.

@boblawblaw6875 2 дня назад

@@Razahoo7 any contact can backfire. So why bother paying anyone ? And injuries can happen to any player at any position. Can’t control that. But I do agree goalies are weird

@JBTriple8 2 дня назад

@@Razahoo7 Goalies are important are QBs are in The NFL they deserve the big bucks.

@peterolbrisch8970 3 дня назад

The league didn't like the 12 year contract the Blackhawks gave Hossa, but if it wasn't for that strange skin thing, he would have fulfilled it, and he was still a good player when he had to retire.

@davidpgraves 2 дня назад

I am confused, you kept on saying 8 year but aren't a lot of these 7 year contracts? Montour for example.

@EstParum 3 дня назад

Funny how NFL is the opposite. Low start cost for long contracts

@ericmcclellan6901 2 дня назад

I assume it’s because nfl contracts are not guaranteed and nhl contracts are. If an nfl player is aging poorly while their salary climbs, the team just cuts them. If an nhl player ages poorly, the team still has to pay, so they structure the deals to be easier to trade in that scenario

@DA_Karas День назад

I thought a defenseman’s production typically falls off a cliff after age 30.

@gnaeuscloudsleyclodiusrufu87 3 дня назад

I would love to know who has the lowest-paid 8-year contract.

@diggsfather 3 дня назад

maybe mikey anderson?

@Michael-pg7rv 3 дня назад

I think they should lower the UFA eligibility to 25 years of age and to balance it out in the teams favour they should implement a modified cap hit for players that you resign beyond 25 years to 90% of their AAV. This gives teams that drafted and developed the player the financial edge to resign them which in my opinion they deserve. This change to the salary cap formula would also put larger emphasis on the importance of the draft and the value of draft picks which would make the game more exciting imo. Additionally I would like to see the mazimum term come down to 6 and 7 years. 8 years just seems too long imo.

@iliaponomarev1624 3 дня назад

If a player is 25 or younger, it's a fair chance to be a good idea. If a player is 28 or older, it's a fair chance to be a bad idea.

@busorenkin55 3 дня назад

If you told me Swaggy would fall off after 33-34 I wouldn’t be surprised but Florida doesn’t really care. He leads the franchise in playoff goals and many other playoff categories and they’ll take the first 4-5 years of his deal and worry about the last 3 later.

@clydeblair9622 2 дня назад

Can't compare Petterson to MacKinnon.

@TheHockeyGuy 2 дня назад

I did.

@freedom_fighter4317 2 дня назад

MacKinnon is an absolute beast... Pettersson is an invisible ghost.

@vaughnbraun 3 дня назад

What's a "deckuhl"

@IceNinja2007 3 дня назад

Raymond's contract?

@D0VES0AP 2 дня назад

u know i get the seth jones contract is big but if u watch the hawks hes usually one of the best players on the team. hes like 2 million dollars overpaid in my opinion

@orangeduck8898 3 дня назад

Learning a new Canadian word today “Expiry”. I’ll add that to my new pronunciation of “decals”.

@jayvardy 3 дня назад

Whatever you say

@romancravic2103 17 часов назад

Front loaded contracts should be illegal. You get paid what your cap hit is yearly. No bonuses. Full stop.

@TheHockeyGuy 17 часов назад

GMs and owners don't care. It's not going to change.

@romancravic2103 13 часов назад

@@TheHockeyGuy Does it bother you personally? They're kinda circumventing the cap.

@TheHockeyGuy Час назад

Nope, it's not my money.

@jorssu13 3 дня назад

Dahlin's contract is fucking horrendous...11 mil? For him?

@kingtchenka628 3 дня назад

He's 24/25 and already a top 10 D in the league. Could get better and unlikely to become worse due to age until 2030s

@jorssu13 3 дня назад

@@kingtchenka628 he's a top 10 D only in terms of his ability to get points...He's a liability in his own end, he's lazy and he regularly just gives up on plays. Buffalo naming him captain over someone like Tuch, for example, I will never understand. Dahlin is the worst possible "leader" for this team, because he exemplifies everything that's wrong with the team...

@bryanlopez86d 3 дня назад

I’m sorry but draisaitl at 14 mil until 37 is mad risky… 35…. Sure ok, but most likely he will be falling off fast those last two years and for a price that could get you two top 6 fwds or top 4 dman

@TheHockeyGuy 3 дня назад

You're worried about the cap hit seven and eight years from now? The Oilers either signed him to that deal or he was gone.

@AngeloDaConceicao-b1u 3 дня назад

Pete overpaid 😊 need a fresh start elsewhere

@TheHockeyGuy 3 дня назад

He is staying in Vancouver, no chance he gets traded because a) He's young and will turn it around and b) No one touches that contract until he does.

@tonyfarken 3 дня назад

Seth Jarvis (not) mentioned, booooooo

@kurtwpg 3 дня назад

My first look at Oettinger's contract, I think it might literally be Swayman's contract. Goalies aren't screwing their teams over, like Draisaitl and Verhaeghe are. Shesterkin will screw the Rangers over though, I think. These front-loaded all signing bonus contracts are going to disappear once people see the disasters at the end. The Matthews one is like that too, but he's expiring just before turning 31, so far less risk.

@jacobdill4499 3 дня назад

I am wondering if Shesterkin is asking for a ridiculous number because he wants out of New York.

@kurtwpg 3 дня назад

@@jacobdill4499 No, I think he just wants the money, and in a structure that can't be bought out.

@takeuchi999 3 дня назад

i wish the nylander contract got a highlight big 11.5mill cap hit for 8 years till he is 36 y/o

@dfnsmn1411 2 дня назад

Eichel's contract doesn't prove you can win cup with his specific cap hit. Vegas exploited the no cap in playoffs again. That was a lot of extra cash they could buy talent with . . . and they did. Same with Tampa's one cup. It's technically legal under the CBA, and both are legit cup winners. However, the argument can't be proven incorrect with those circumstances with those teams

@WoozyPolarBear 3 дня назад

I am not a fan of 8 year contacts at all. 90% of the time, a GM gives out an 8 year contact, but only receives 5-6 years of value and productive time from the aging players. Cost certainty is great up to the point that you are locked into having to pay top dollars for AHL replaceable level talent. By year 7 or 8, it is equivalent as paying the same amount of money as it would take to lease a 2025 BMW but for a 2018 Toyota Corolla instead.