A look at the (Shagbark) Hickory nut and the Butternut 

Yes, this is very true! Please plant butternut seeds to help the species.

germinated my first crop of Acadian Forest butternut seedlings

This also helps keeps weeds down in the driveway, as black walnut husks contain juglone a natural herbicide that chokes out sensitive species.

That's funny. What a friend.

One man's tough stain is another man's (or woman's) permanent dye, I'd Imagine. Nature sure gives us some great stuffl, Maybe it's a good thing for us that squirrels don't like them until the husks are gone :)

I believe native Americans and colonists dyed cloth using the husks resulting in a tan to medium brown color.

Wish I had some trees near me that were nut producing. I did plant some pecan trees, I think it was two or three years ago. So few more years and I'll have pecans.

Thx for this! It was very interesting! I am in hobbs new mexico and hardly a tree in sight down here, lol. Your stated goal for making this video was definitely fulfilled here!

Thank you! I also just put out a build video for gymnasts' rings.

They say that the best time to plant a fruit tree is ten years ago! Don't worry, it'll go too fast.

Also the stains never EVER leave the soles of your sneakers.

You won't like this reply, but I'm going to advise you NOT to use that method. Walnut husk is a sponge that contains a concentrated stew of nasty compounds. As soon as you start spraying them, you make a liquid herbicide that gets everywhere. Do yourself a favor and husk them dry; as soon as the rind is soft enough to peel, use a knife to halve it, then give it a twist, and throw it away. Don't even compost the waste. You'll get more of the brown stuff out of your life in this way. I treat it like toxic waste. As far as sweet flavor goes, my recommendation is to remove the rind as soon as is easily possible. I'm unaware of any correlation with frost. Trust me when I say that the rind adds no possible benefit to the meat's sweetness. There's a certain time, a 'sweet spot,' when it will loosen just enough to separate, yet still cut with a dull knife. Most of the nuts will still retain that characteristic smoky flavor, don't worry. You can use a short piece of PVC pipe as a scraper tool to remove any stuck rind. After the green part is gone, I just swish them around in a bucket a few times and then let them dry. Pitch the floaters. This is not as much work as it sounds. Don't stress. Pour off the brown juice in the gravel somewhere. Assuming you're just taking enough for yearly personal use, it has been my experience (having harvested nuts year after year) that it's simply best to do it the easiest way possible. Just consider, and good luck.

Some people compare that staining substance to iodine, but actually it's far from that (it's more like a hair dye): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juglone

My grandpap asked me to do that. I made a basket out of one by leaving a thin "handle." It only takes four cuts. And no, I'm not showing my face!

Hmm. I know there are lots of variants, so I just look for the "shaggy" bark. That's the most suitable variety for food where I live, since it's almost the same thing as a pecan. If you look around, I'd bet you can find a shagbark. You're just on the other side of the hills from me.

i guarantee you have oak nuts (acorns) and 2-3 varieties of hickory nuts.

Believe it or not, peanuts grow underground. They are attached to the roots of the plant by little strings. I remember my dad growing them when I was a kid. As for where you live, I wonder what natural nut trees evolved there. It must be very different from where I live. The _Primitive Technology_ channel continues to fascinate me with the beauty of your natural environment.

That's really cool. I had an image in my head of all the peanuts growing all over a big tree like cherry's almost! Boy was I wrong. I know macadamia's grow around here, but they are one of my least favourite nuts. I'll definitely do some research though :) it'd be wonderful to have nut trees. At the end of the year I may be moving to a place 6hrs south which gets snow in the winter and scorching hot weather in the summer... so I have no idea what fruits and veggies I'll be able to grow there. That's really kind of you to say. I love the Aussie environment but I've got to say, pine trees and lakes and hummingbirds really tempt me to move to the US. It sure looks gorgeous from this side of the planet.

I would love to grow pistacio's. Not too sure if they grow in the southern parts of Australia though. I've only heard of them up north :) Never seen Bunya pines, I'll have to do some research and keep my eye out for them! Thanks Ryan.

...3 years later. Is this the video you were talking about? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nnAOchXir_I.html

I won't harvest them again--they taste terrible! I'm more of a Black Walnut person. Still, you've got to try if you know where one is. Maybe you'll like 'em!

I discovered a butter nut tree near me behind a Spanish bodega here in Philly. I didnt know what it was, but brought home some fruit to research it. When did you know they were ready for harvest and how were they for you?

I wonder how many of those I've just walked by, while assuming they were acorns.

It was the bandsaw. Last week. There was a sharp edge on the blade cover that got me. I filed it smooth, though.

Both should produce a very similar dye. I've made stain before from the Black Walnut husk. The following video will give you a look at it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6LI7Owk4wXU.html

Hickory? Get them now if they're on the ground. Better hurry! If the husks aren't loose yet, just put them in a bucket and keep setting it in the sun for a few days. Don't struggle: they'll dry out a bit and become easier to get off naturally. A (short) flat-head screwdriver can help pry them off when they're ready.

Same way. First, beat the squirrels to them. Don't work too hard; Hickory nuts will have four lobes on their green husks which will naturally fall off after a few days in the garage. Keep them up where air can get to them, but not in the sun. Drying them out too quickly will crack them. ... Once they are only nuts, hang them in little mesh bags of 100 or so-- again, out of the sun--and they will cure in around a month. Oh, you can also use the float/sink test to look for bad ones at the point right before you hang them. Just towel them off quickly after. ... With any luck, your tree is a Shag-bark. If it has strips of bark peeling away, that's the one; those are the good nuts, which taste like Pecans. I wish I still lived near those. Let me know your results. Good luck.

The Persimmon? I've never seen one here, but I think they grow where you are. Here's the link: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diospyros_virginiana

They need (dry) air to loosen the husk. Three days in the shed had them come off easily. I would advise against burying them; no need to give them an additional opportunity to grow microbial life or develop worms.

usually they will only germinate after the winters cold and stratification process. And my comment only apply for walnut- i get a clean shell after 2 days in a mesh box buried in sand but you r very right for hickories and chestnut

I pretty sure you can still find many in the wild, I’ve found at least 15 in the London area

Where upstate? I'm in the city. Curious where to find butternuts

I don't know. That's a great question. I can only speak from experience, and in mine, black walnuts cured properly are still perfectly edible for a very long time. Still, they are abundant enough here that I see no point in keeping them beyond a year or two.

Hickory nuts are similar to pecans. Those are nice. Butternut, on the other hand, is disgusting! It has a really strong, smoky flavor that's a bit too caustic for my taste. Reminds me of burnt wires for some reason. Of course, one might have the same opinion of the black walnut, which I love. So it's all a matter of personal taste ;)

pocket83² Thanks. It’s weird, I love so many fruits and nuts but black walnut just tastes gross to me. A weird mixture of artificial cherry and gasoline...maybe similar to how you describe butternut...what does black walnut taste like to you?

Yep. Artificial cherry and gasoline! With a hint of smokiness. Consider: nothing much grows well under a black walnut tree, and I've even had chemical burns from too much exposure to the noxious compound(s) in the husks. As such, admittedly, it must be an acquired taste. I can understand why a person would find them overpowering. I'm a fairly firm believer that our taste preferences are largely shaped by our life experiences and/or biases. If my life had gone a different way, I might despise them. But as it is, I like the gritty things. Odd aside: _Impatiens capensis,_ (or the orange jewelweed) is a natural touch-me-not that grows around here. It'll pop off a few little brown seeds in late summer. If you catch them in your hand, their taste is nearly identical to the black walnut, albeit with a slightly lessened sting. I've been eating them in small doses since I was a kid.

hahaha Hickory nuts are a bit tougher to crack open but taste a lot like a black walnut. A bit of a stronger flavor. If you like one there's a good chance you'll like the other. Hulls are great to use in the smoker.

No. I'm planting some of the seeds around here, but it's pretty low on my ecological priorities list. Our forests are suffering widespread destruction from greedy property owners who log too frequently and without care. Conservation efforts are better spent elsewhere. Besides, it lives in seclusion on the side of a slope, where it makes a yearly deposition of seed into the river below. It's better off without a human group roping it off to 'preserve' it. We *are* the blight. I will be telling no one about it.

There is a butternut canker but no blight that is endangering this walnut. Butternuts are extremely popular in zone 3 and 4. Widely produced and sold by nurseries. Not endangered at all

he'd be dead or infirm by the time those trees start producing fruits. Hardwood nut trees take decades before they mature to the point of fruiting. Mockernut hickory for instance take 25-30 years. But they go on to fruit for like a hundred fifty years. When you plant nut trees, you're really planting them for your grandchildren, not yourself.

Out of season right now. Wait until the end of summer, and ask around then. They (black walnuts) should be dirt cheap, except for shipping. Check Wikipedia to see where they grow. You might be able to find some 'pick em up yourself' freebies on Craigslist if you're anywhere near eastern north America. You're not likely to find butternuts, though; they're pretty rare. Don't worry, they taste terrible anyhow, and the tree is virtually identical to the black Walnut, so you aren't missing anything.

pocket83² I am from Egypt Sir It it far from reach for me So I want to get some ( nut fruits ) that are new or unknown in my country like black and white walnuts and acorn and becan and mecademia And I wat to try to grow them because I am a student in the faculty agricultural engineering I like to try every thing So I am trying to get them but no one is cooperating with me

Are you still looking for butter nuts?

I didn't say anything about Oak. Butternut is also known as White Walnut, and the tree is certainly endangered. Canker is also killing it to the south. If you live around a grove, it's a rarity. Since I've moved up the mountain, I have yet to see a Butternut tree, but you're a good distance from here.

Sure. That was their best album. But the word just means that you get to have the experience through me: you don't have to get your hands dirty! In the context of _10,000 Days,_ he was admitting to having a guilty pleasure, which was a fixation with the death of others. Further, he argues that we all share a similar preoccupation- whether we admit it or not. Thus, violence is best experienced vicariously, even though that's perhaps hypocritical, avoidant, and cowardly. And ultimately impossible.

I hope you're joking. Where did I provide directions to this tree that weren't laughably vague? Further, it's as rude as it is presumptuous for you to be lecturing me on ecology. The arrogance of the "conservationist" mindset! It's as though only you hipsters- with your North Face packs, trendy 'survival' gear, and Cannondale bikes- could be adept in the woods or act responsibly! You've made the outdoors into a novelty menagerie which you view as distinct from yourself, so that you may sample from it at convenience while wearing Nylon pants and remaining on the trail. And then you sanctimoniously act as though you work only in its favor! Cultural change follows naturally from an informed public; it is awareness that promotes preservation, not abstinence-lecturing from the privileged. Go be mindful of your own actions: if you want to make an _actual_ change, reduce your personal waste. Maybe get a vasectomy.

Ok, I thought about it and came back. I overreacted to your comment. But I want to make this point, without hostility: the idea that some of us have a duty to preserve, while others are destined to only be wasteful- is exclusionary, problematic, and naïve. The fact is that we are _all_ wasteful to some degree. Perhaps we can mitigate this reality by lessening our ignorance of it. Here I will quote D.F.Wallace: "To be a tourist... is to spoil, by way of sheer ontology, the very unspoiledness you are there to experience." -from _Consider The Lobster_

What a complete ass, you went about this the wrong way. You're language was wacked.