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A look into MotoGP™ suspension: Tech Talk with Simon Crafar 

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The dark art of #MotoGP suspension (and we're not even going to cover damping yet!) - Simon Crafar runs us through spring rates and preload in his latest #TechTalk!
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@kneewall49
@kneewall49 4 года назад
Fantastic Simon! Finally we have someone who can explain the complexities of tuning and the related outcomes and requirements. Magic. Your input to the MotoGP this year has been phenomenal, love it.
@bremCZ
@bremCZ 4 года назад
@Trikk When and who did he race MotoGP for?
@Alexxx0128
@Alexxx0128 4 года назад
That was awesome. Please keep doing these. Simon is real knowledgeable and gives good tips
@trykozmaksym
@trykozmaksym 4 года назад
This is so amazing. Haven't seen such a passionate explanation ever. How cool is that? :) Can't wait for the new TechTalk.
@rondridealmeria
@rondridealmeria 4 года назад
the way Simon talks it´s amazing! well done
@panzervalkyrie9299
@panzervalkyrie9299 4 года назад
New Zealander , long time hero of mine. Lucky enough to meet him at Auckland Hampton downs track ( my profile pic ) . Absolute humble nice guy. Learning so much bike craft from him .
@franklinwilkerson2061
@franklinwilkerson2061 4 года назад
That was by far the best suspension talk I’ve ever seen. Learned more from Simon in one video than probably all the other ones I’ve watched combined. I’m a right brained caveman. More Chimp than human but I think I actually get it now. Thank you 🙏 MotoGP!
@xuanyulyu52
@xuanyulyu52 4 года назад
Contents of this video in a nutshell, please feel free to correct me in the replies: 1. You can use springs with different stiffness on left and right front forks to achieve the front spring rate you want, because they are rigidly connected in parallel; 2. You assume that changing the preload won't affect the spring rate. You change the preload to alter the range of travel your suspension stays in, mainly avoiding bottoming out (the rigid parts hitting each other and invalidating the springs) under COMPRESSION (both front and rear). Bottoming out sucks because they make your tyres the only spring you get, offering basically no damping and a terrible feeling, which you don't want. 3. Top-out springs are used to prevent the springs from overextending and invalidating themselves the other way, under REBOUND. 4. You can tune the preload by spinning a nut (in the front) or rotating a ring (in the rear). The rear shock preload ring now goes pneumatic so you can compress the spring first, easily turn the ring and release the spring back to the position you want. 5. Air gaps are used to increase the effective spring rate as the load increases. 6. You can change the rear linkage geometry to cope with different axis positions (due to changes of the sprocket/final ratio) based on how you want to correlate your wheel travel with your rear spring rate etc.
@gregjetnikoff7124
@gregjetnikoff7124 4 года назад
Possibly the best MotoGP tech explainer EVER. Been riding and racing for decades and still learn something new ever time he does a vid.
@GiorgiLaluashvili
@GiorgiLaluashvili 4 года назад
Thats some complicated stuff right there
@boosthit811
@boosthit811 4 года назад
The strong sense of passion comes off through the camera!
@jgsimons
@jgsimons 4 года назад
Anyone who is a track day rider needs to watch each TechTalk twenty times. Great information and he walk viewers through it very well.
@trionrider
@trionrider 4 года назад
The best explanation about suspension that I've ever seen! Good job! Keep it coming!👍
@thorstenhenseleratho
@thorstenhenseleratho 4 года назад
Greatest TechTalk on springs I have ever seen! Can‘t wait for insights on damping...
@HenriDeCarvalho
@HenriDeCarvalho 4 года назад
I learn something... you make my day Simon
@wsc50
@wsc50 4 года назад
Please keep doing these tech videos. It's very cool to see in great detail what we normally cannot!
@nickegan3988
@nickegan3988 4 года назад
Simon I was at Donnington Park in 1998 and watched your 500cc win, unforgettable! Cheers for your insights here
@franciscomendoza1168
@franciscomendoza1168 4 года назад
This is just awesome!!! Thank you so much Simon and motogp for the tech talks!!! Keep bringing them!!!!
@luhaarunk3085
@luhaarunk3085 4 года назад
I'm this glad this video came in my recommendations. Will watch other previous videos too. Thank you sir & thank you MotoGP for such awesome explanation!
@olivialambert4124
@olivialambert4124 3 года назад
I've been looking everywhere for a description like this. The actual effect and feel of changing suspension settings for race bikes. The closest I could get was a manufacturers document describing the extreme settings. I'm so glad I came across this video. Now to find the damping, that would be worth its weight in gold.
@mohba01
@mohba01 4 года назад
The physics is just the language of reality. A lot of people are speaking about it, very few understand what it really is.
@archetypex65
@archetypex65 4 года назад
So spot on 👍👌
@andyallison460
@andyallison460 3 года назад
Love all these Tech Talks, no matter the subject. As an avid motorcycle rider, ex amateur racer, and current track day enthusiast I can never get enough motorcycle knowledge. Keep em coming!
@CtrlCmdMusic
@CtrlCmdMusic 4 года назад
Having watched his youtube channel motovudu... i am not new to his tech talks.. they are certainly eye openers... and the great thing is he gives out these insider secrets which everyone else in the world of racing are closed mouth about. Thats what makes him special... a true man of knowledge
@AdrianSinner97
@AdrianSinner97 4 года назад
the top out spring and the 'geometric' linkeage - dear gods, so damn hard for the outsiders to know about such things. Simon you rock mate, motoGP channel kicks ass by showing us these things
@TheRedMenaceR
@TheRedMenaceR 4 года назад
great video. I used to really not enjoy Simon, especially when he first started, but he's really come into his own and I truly appreciate the insights of a professional rider
@patryk996
@patryk996 4 года назад
These are FANTASTIC videos!! Thank you sooo much for putting these together! I LOVE this technical detail about how the different components work on these bikes! More please!! :D
@michaelrullis7501
@michaelrullis7501 4 года назад
Top out spring wow thats so cool. Never would have thought
@JG-zu5wc
@JG-zu5wc 4 года назад
Great job Simon. Really simple to understand how important it is to set these correctly to ride fast.
@blubaru73
@blubaru73 4 года назад
More of these please. Well done Simon.
@NotPoliticallyCorrect407
@NotPoliticallyCorrect407 4 года назад
Love the way Simon explains things, understands that not all people are tech talk jargon savvy. speaks in plan English for all to understand in real world terms that everybody can relate too. 🍻👍🏻✊🏻
@outwrite11
@outwrite11 4 года назад
All that without an edit and minimal mistakes in that heat. What a pro Simon is. Still don't understand why pre-loading doesn't simply make the spring stiffer, but I'll get it one day ;)
@xuanyulyu52
@xuanyulyu52 4 года назад
I guess it's based on an assumption that for a spiral spring its stiffness keeps the same all the way. They do alter the stiffness either by switching the springs or achieve variable stiffness by using the air gap.
@bremCZ
@bremCZ 4 года назад
Grab a spring and compress it from slack. It will require x amount of force. If you squeeze that same spring a little at the beginning and then start measuring the force required to completely compress it. It would be exactly the same.
@slipperyweasel2627
@slipperyweasel2627 4 года назад
A very passionate and detailed clip, all in one take. Well done, Mr Crafar.
@TrackSol
@TrackSol 4 года назад
Excellent! We need more tech talks like this!
@TheGregouze35
@TheGregouze35 4 года назад
Thank you Sir! My english is weak but I understood everything cause it's so well explained! Damn that's a proper use of 10 minutes!
@motogp
@motogp 4 года назад
TheGregouze35 Glad you liked it! 😎
@horurbjarnason5448
@horurbjarnason5448 4 года назад
Brilliant information. Thank you!
@NeonFreakC
@NeonFreakC 4 года назад
Awesome!!!! Please give us more of this content!
@shahsankgole2296
@shahsankgole2296 4 года назад
Great job Simon....!
@zoransandric5568
@zoransandric5568 4 года назад
Simon, nice explanation
@robchiatto4198
@robchiatto4198 4 года назад
Great job of explaining a complicated subject. Thanks Simon!
@HanamDo
@HanamDo 4 года назад
Wow this was absolutely entertaining to listen to. Please do more of this Simon!
@Gambo916
@Gambo916 3 года назад
These TechTalks add another dimension to my understanding and enjoyement of MotoGP. Thank You Simon.
@slash9196
@slash9196 4 года назад
Wow this guys voice use to drive me crazy. but I must say ,I love listening to him because he knows his shit ,can ride like the wind and is great at explaining complicated stuff that we normally don’t get to hear .keep up the good work mate we love you
@brettlightfoot1802
@brettlightfoot1802 4 года назад
Thanks for the explanation; this helps me to better understand what I am doing to my bike. Keep the tech talks coming! Great job Simon. 🙌🏻
@kamikaze_twist
@kamikaze_twist 4 года назад
As someone who's an active track dayer,this is life saving explanation right there,very underrated! The amount of knowledge in this one video regarding how to adjust the preload and damping will make night and day difference for someone who makes use of it! Thanks a ton for this video and please make more of these that would be useful for production bikes as well!
@CtrlCmdMusic
@CtrlCmdMusic 4 года назад
He has his own channel motovudu where he explains everything
@kamikaze_twist
@kamikaze_twist 4 года назад
@@CtrlCmdMusic thanks a ton for that info! Mike on bikes,life at lean apart from this has been my other favs as well! check em out too if you're interested in track day riding!
@CtrlCmdMusic
@CtrlCmdMusic 4 года назад
@@kamikaze_twist sure bro 👍
@justincase8992
@justincase8992 3 года назад
Great video. Now I understand the principle of how the shocks work in a bike. It is a constant harmonious relationship between the rider and the mechanics and the engineers to achieve the best race results. More power to your videos.
@MrGlynlewis
@MrGlynlewis 3 года назад
Excellent vid Simon. That top out spring so simple but so clever! Thanks again
@sparkme123
@sparkme123 4 года назад
Well done!!! Please do more videos like this. Understanding my bike and how it works makes me a better rider.
@kratanicverses4805
@kratanicverses4805 4 года назад
Wonderful explanation. Still very complex and alot to take in but brilliantly demystifying.
@renstav8
@renstav8 4 года назад
That was great!!
@Corredorzxc
@Corredorzxc 4 года назад
Simon! You're amazing! I would love to have these TechTalks coming out!
@j.d.7321
@j.d.7321 4 года назад
Great video! I'm so intrigued
@albertorobinson7611
@albertorobinson7611 4 года назад
Thanks for the quick tip Simón
@rbsuba
@rbsuba 4 года назад
Amazing!!! Your explanations are all of good! Gongratulations for dedicate time! Nice.👏👏👏👏👏
@ZeroBoostBuick
@ZeroBoostBuick 4 года назад
This was brilliant ! You're awesome at explaining these things... THANK YOU
@djbgatekeeper
@djbgatekeeper 4 года назад
Awesome tutorial Simon thank you 👍
@rubencriviDT
@rubencriviDT 4 года назад
Very nice video with Simon! More of this for free please!
@rodrigofonseca1160
@rodrigofonseca1160 Год назад
This is simply one of the best videos on youtube.
@VitorGTC
@VitorGTC 4 года назад
Nice work mate , very interesting stuff right there
@HasBeensNAddicts
@HasBeensNAddicts 4 года назад
I needed this so bad. Thank you
@bilal_waheed
@bilal_waheed 4 года назад
absolutely amazing! the purpose of these maniac machines being open to public!
@RaunaqSahu
@RaunaqSahu 4 года назад
This is a great initiative!
@klaus-juergenkessel3916
@klaus-juergenkessel3916 4 года назад
Excellent! Very good explanation!
@armandoescobedo782
@armandoescobedo782 4 года назад
Great explanation mate!
@narod_slavian
@narod_slavian 3 месяца назад
It was an interesting and useful explanation. Thank you Simon !
@Nandakumarweb
@Nandakumarweb 4 года назад
Super. More like these please. Thanks
@Crimson_Strider
@Crimson_Strider 4 года назад
awesome. thank you.
@vonmisesmohr
@vonmisesmohr 4 года назад
Good knowledge & Very technical
@TheAslakVind
@TheAslakVind 4 года назад
I really really really love your TechTalk Simon!
@Ronin-bt1fj
@Ronin-bt1fj 3 года назад
Love his explanation!
@Velodictorian
@Velodictorian 4 года назад
That pneumatic preload is baller!
@johnreynolds2055
@johnreynolds2055 4 года назад
When Simon describes what the bike is doing, it is clear he has been there himself. I couldn’t have chosen a better person for the job. Everything extra he does to help you understand all add up
@slimmerik1
@slimmerik1 4 года назад
Super super awesome explanation!
@Justwanthavefun_100
@Justwanthavefun_100 4 года назад
Very enjoyable videos and very satisfying
@AMPJ08
@AMPJ08 4 года назад
GREAT! Bravo 👏🏻
@GraemeRobinson
@GraemeRobinson 4 года назад
fascinating stuff - genuinely new information here and I've been around and riding bikes for decades.
@oliviermader9007
@oliviermader9007 4 года назад
Thank you Simon!!!👍🏻
@IvanCruz-ys6by
@IvanCruz-ys6by 4 года назад
Well done Simon, enjoyed the tech talk very much. 👍🏻
@roydamron7404
@roydamron7404 4 года назад
Awesome job simon,keep it up!
@rizdzwan7
@rizdzwan7 4 года назад
Great 👍 information...thanks
@ordinarypablo
@ordinarypablo 4 года назад
Just wow, thanks!
@GooogleGoglee
@GooogleGoglee 4 года назад
Wonderful content!!
@andrews9577
@andrews9577 4 года назад
Very good. More please.
@Comic_Dude
@Comic_Dude 4 года назад
Awsome knowledge
@shanerr7252
@shanerr7252 3 года назад
Thats the best description of under steer ive ever heard "like when you push dads car too hard" 😂😂😂😂😂
@scotch_onrocks1876
@scotch_onrocks1876 4 года назад
This is the best video on suspension I've ever seen
@markcotter4213
@markcotter4213 4 года назад
Simon is worth his weight in gold! He is the second best thing in MotoGP, with racing itself being #1
@peter_king
@peter_king 4 года назад
This guy knows his isht. Absolutely love the level of detail here and his the pit lane broadcasts. Bravo.
@bremCZ
@bremCZ 4 года назад
He was an Öhlins tech after he retired as a rider, so suspension is something he's forgotten more about than most will ever know. It's a level of insight you rarely ever get.
@Team-fabulous
@Team-fabulous 4 года назад
Not only is Simon a smart cookie he also back in the day was a fantastic rider.... Cracking video..
@Sk2PPer
@Sk2PPer 4 года назад
Excellent video!
@one-of-us9939
@one-of-us9939 3 года назад
I am so proud you chose Aprilia. I chose an Aprilia RSV4 RF LE#14 2018. Keep up the great work Simon... Cheers!
@mxtj3wboi
@mxtj3wboi 4 года назад
Really good info! I also just enjoy listening to Simon. He could be talking about how to tie your shoe laces and I'd watch that.
@bikeguy3034
@bikeguy3034 4 года назад
..and they have these little plastic bits at the ends to stop them fraying, how cool is that!?. Simon is awesome 😎
@digpatil
@digpatil 4 года назад
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 nice information
@RemboUSMC
@RemboUSMC 3 года назад
Excellent
@vishwish
@vishwish Год назад
Great, Fantastic, this video is done at Chang's/ Thailand
@matttorgersen9932
@matttorgersen9932 4 года назад
Thank you Simon
@Kid574
@Kid574 4 года назад
The amount of tech in those suspension is incredible.
@stevekeiretsu
@stevekeiretsu 4 года назад
great vid. where's the previous video he refers to at the start? can't find it in your techtalk playlist or even videopass
@remembermorrison
@remembermorrison 4 года назад
Thanks Simon!
@joshuamervis
@joshuamervis 4 года назад
Great stuff!
@whitenite007
@whitenite007 4 года назад
This was incredible.
@lloyddotimas6302
@lloyddotimas6302 4 года назад
He geeked out! I got enthused!
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