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A low PING is the WARZONE META you can’t defeat 

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After dying in Call of Duty: Warzone regularly for two years in gunfights in which I appeared to win on my screen, I decided to try to get to the bottom of why this was.
So, in January and February 2022 I performed a 153-game study to measure ping and its effect on my experience - both good and bad.
My hunch appears to have been correct. In those 153 games, I died 90 percent of the time in gunfights to enemies who had a lower ping/better connection quality - and often a much lower ping.
I also layered the ping of the server into which Warzone placed me to the pings that are actually available on better servers elsewhere. Using the Netduma router to monitor ping quality at the various Activision servers in the United States, I learned several interesting realities:
53.21% of the time, Activision places me onto servers with 100+ ms ping while the average enemy I died to had a 54.79 ms ping.
66.97% of the time I have to play at 90+ ping.
Only once in 153 games did Activision place me on the nearest, best server. In that game I had a 31 ms ping - by far the best connection I was granted in a month.
Most every night during the study numerous servers were available to me that offer 20-50 ms ping, but I’m only placed on those good servers 0.65% of the time.
This video details why ping is so important in online first-person shooters and how Activision can leverage it to steer your experience.
Following is the methodology I used for the 153-game study and a few notes:
Starting in January 2022, I played 153 Warzone games and collected data from each game. The first part, or 109 games, did not include use of the Netduma gaming router, which allows you to set a ping limit at which you’re willing to play. During the first 109-game stretch I let Activision put me where it wanted to.
On Day 18, I turned the Netduma gaming router on and set a ping limit of 85 ms - and continued collecting data for nine days, or 44 games.
I generally collected data consistently from all games played. However, it was not entirely linear. For example: I used the GeForce Experience Instant Replay feature to record the previous 90 seconds after a death so that I could pull the enemy’s name and ping to include in the data. Some nights that feature didn’t work as intended and I lost that data, and thus dropped the game. Between Days 25 and 26, I took two days off and didn’t touch the game. On a few occasions, I would stop collecting data after a random number of games - largely because I performed this test at night and was often tired - and played several without recording results.
In the final results, I detailed my KD at the various pings in which I played. But Days 18 and 19 included kill totals during the Buyback Solos LTM. Typically, it’s easier to get more kills during this mode than it is during the standard mode. Stats from 20 Buyback games I played in were included in the final data and skewed my KD marginally upward for that stretch.
The pings on the various Warzone servers in January and February 2022 were generally lower across the board than as shown in the video, which showed pings available in May 2022. I included a modern-day (May 2022) look at server quality. After the Warzone Season 3 update, the connection quality at all Warzone servers has degraded. The quality was better (and the pings were lower) during the testing period.
Average Ping Without Use of the Netduma (at the mercy of Activision):
96.94
Average Wait Time to Get into a Game Without Use of the Netduma:
2.33 minutes
Average Ping While Using the Netduma - Set at an 85 ms Ping Limit:
75.8
Average Wait Time to Get into a Game Using the Netduma (85 ms ping limit):
8.56 minutes
MY PC SPECS:
Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X (12-Core) 4.8 GHz Turbo
Motherboard: ASUS PRIME X570-P / MSI X570-A Pro (AMD X570) (Up to 2x PCI-E Devices) (No SLI Support)
System Memory: 32GB DDR4 3200MHz Digital Storm Performance Series
Power Supply: 850W Digital Storm Performance Series (Modular) (80 Plus Gold)
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (500GB Samsung 980 PRO) (NVM Express)
Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (2TB Seagate / Toshiba / Hitachi)
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 3070 8GB (VR Ready)
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Dual Fan) (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance)
NAT TYPE:
Open
MY INTERNET DOWN/UP SPEEDS:
200/12
MY CONTROLLER:
Xbox Elite Series 2
My video on it: Best WARZONE and FPS CONTROLLER in the World | Xbox Elite Series 2 Controller - RU-vid
MY GAMING ROUTER:
Netduma R2
My video on it: Does the NETDUMA Give You Easier WARZONE-PACIFIC Lobbies? - RU-vid
MY WARZONE PLAYER STATS AS OF MAY 16, 2022:
Lifetime KD: 1.57
Vanguard Season 1: 1.85
Vanguard Season 2: 2.55
Vanguard Season 3: 2.15
Total Wins: 172 (mostly in Solos mode)
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@NickSmokeyTV
@NickSmokeyTV Год назад
Insanely Underrated Content, deserve more subs, your time will come 🙏❤️
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer Год назад
Thanks, Smoke! Appreciate that 👍👍
@ChantingInTheDark
@ChantingInTheDark 2 года назад
"I'm old and I'm just trying to compete in online FPS shooters" - I feel ya there buddy!
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Lol. Old guy club 🤣
@strahfe
@strahfe 2 года назад
Very insightful video. I would switch in month periods between my connection at college which was around 20-30 ping and my home connection which ranges from 50-70. It is a night and day difference. It is much harder for me to drop gameplays consistently on ping in the range of 50-70.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Totally agree. Every little bit counts, no doubt.
@trxnndy
@trxnndy Год назад
U just bad lmao, u think that by having ur expensive pc and stuff playing a no skill game againts literal bots thinking ur good. I bet with 150 ping or even 100 ping with a 60hz display u will not be near the same u think u are bot
@m4rk947
@m4rk947 2 года назад
you actually opened my eyes, i really thought i was bad at this game (even if i am lol) but now im not even wondering why i always loose anymore... now it's an evidence so thank you so much for your deep investigations and explanations
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks, M4. Happy to help!
@jokrmeta
@jokrmeta 2 года назад
A lot of people call videos a “banger”. Guess what? “BOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!” This video explains a lot of my frustration. I will be reviewing my kill cams for ping discrepancies from now on. Thanks for this content!
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks Jokr! My pleasure. Appreciate the kind words 👍
@abramabram2713
@abramabram2713 2 года назад
the problem that nobody mentioned is> ping has heavy impact on "sound" specially footsteps.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
It definitely might. I thought lag compensation accounted for this. Its definitely not perfect though.
@arnie1046
@arnie1046 2 года назад
Does it?
@brandon_gb
@brandon_gb 2 года назад
Just subscribed, great informative videos. I'm a year from 40 so I'm in that older demographic of players. Your channel is something I can get alot out of. Not to mention not having to figure out what these younger content creators are saying with the youngster lingo is quite refreshing. Thanks
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Old guys unite! Lol. Thanks for the kind words, Brandon. Very much appreciated.
@dstmessenger5803
@dstmessenger5803 2 года назад
Hands down the best video I’ve seen regarding connection. Thank you for the detail and time you put in
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thansk, DST! Appreciate that.
@Yinksman
@Yinksman 4 месяца назад
“Matches should be grouped by connection quality” -this is what all competitive online games should adopt. I feel seen watching your video as a fellow player trying to compete and btw your video quality in terms of info provided is top-notch, thank you. I don’t play Warzone anymore so I gave up a long time ago time ago. I play games with higher TTKs like Fortnite, Overwatch and most recently, The Finals. I live in Nigeria so I guess I’m stuck with high ping for most if not all shooters. I did get to experience low ping gaming for the first time this year with a game called Farlight 84(a third person shooter battle-royale) and the soccer game EAFC. EA and Farlight’s publisher both introduced servers for my region late last year. Just to give a perspective of how important ping is….my win rate in Farlight is ~40% as opposed to 3% in Fortnite. My average ping is 25ms in Farlight and 130-160ms in Fortnite. In EAFC I hit the top division in seasons. I know Fortnite and Farlight are different games but they are both battle royales. There are a lot of factors to consider but I wish Epic could introduce servers for my region because I prefer Fortnite(no surprise really). Anyways, great video, you’ve earned a sub and more wins to you in your endeavors, cheers.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 4 месяца назад
Thanks, Yinksman. Very kind of you!
@jeffforrest5921
@jeffforrest5921 2 года назад
This is my exact story. Kd is lower than my current skill because of how bad I was in the beginning... bought a high end pc and a scuf, improved but still lose a lot of 50/50s that I feel I had the clear advantage. Great video!
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks, Jeff 👍 Appreciate that. Glad to know I’m not the only one.
@shotty5873
@shotty5873 2 года назад
Same here. When I first started playing MW i played a lot of ground war and plunder ranking my snipers up and unlocking cammos but I died a lot… like 0.40kd for a year. I have played since the games release am currently at 0.87 kd on warzone lol. It takes forever to raise your KD. My internet was horrible I had 0.8 upload, I just upgraded to fiberoptic in early June and now I have 40-50mbps upload, 20 ping but I can’t tell any difference at all on Warzone, the lag honestly seems worse the past month or so but I have no problems at all streaming or playing other games but warzone is horrible, I have tried everything. I have an Xbox 1 s and that might be part of my problem. But my cousin has the new Xbox and fiberoptic and when I play on his Xbox there is no lag at all. His kd is around 1.20
@johntran8402
@johntran8402 2 года назад
I switched to pc this summer I’m better bc of the frames but at the same time the lobbies are obviously more skilled
@wallywest9257
@wallywest9257 2 года назад
I live on the far west side of Australia and all the servers for Warzone, in this country, are on the east side. No matter how fast my internet speed is I have to ping across the entire country to play games. I ping an average of around 70ish every game. I've been playing COD for 11+ years, I have a 3.3+ K/D, I know all the meta's & movements, I'm what you would consider 'a sweat'. And I can barely win head-to-head gun fights, even if the player is bad. I have to depend on my movement and game knowledge to slay. I always remember hearing that pro players would never play on above 50 ping, and I understand why. Even though I have a 3.3 k/d, which may seem high, I know that if my ping was 20 I'd be a 4-5 k/d player. But there is nothing I can do, I tried to even up the fields by buying a $4,000 PC and pushing my fps to 180-200 (which does help) but nothing can make up for sheer ping. Ping is king, thats all this game is. I'd sacrifice all my fps just to get a 30ish ping. All these top-tier WZ streamers play on like 10-20 ping, I saw Scump on like 3 ping once, and then sit back after hitting a 30 bomb and think they're top shit. Give them all 70+ ping and none of them would be dropping 30. Such is life though.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Well said.
@Irfanafzaal
@Irfanafzaal Год назад
DUDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. Where were you the ENTIRE TIME. EVERYTHING you've mentioned in this video, I've been SHOUTING this to my self. Exactly the same things. OHHHH man this feels SO RELIEVED to know that i am not stupid to say all this stuff and in fact it is ACTUALLY happening in the game. You've no idea how much money and time and emotions i have spent just to get good connections in game. Switched to PC, swapped to HIGHER end pc, Switched to Higher speed packages and even switched to fiber recently BUT NOTHING seems to be working for me. Thank you for your video man. Thank you!
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer Год назад
Hey, Irfan! I'm glad you found my video! You are not along :)
@alxluthor
@alxluthor 2 года назад
A-MA-ZING Work on this my friend 👏👏👏👏. You just answered one of my biggest frustrations with this Fcking Game. THIS right here is my exact experience with the game and now I know why. Much Obliged for all of this.🙏
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks ALX! Happy to help.
@FlashyFinesse
@FlashyFinesse 2 года назад
Most ppl don't know how to optimize their pcs and don't know good gaming tweaks. That alone can counteract alot of the ping differences. Registry tweaks along with timer resolution alone will have you destroying people with good ping. Timer res gives u a whole half a mili second advantage in every gunfight. It's like everyone you play against has 50 ping.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
How do you adjust timer resolution? Thanks for commenting
@gpani7262
@gpani7262 2 года назад
I used to write code for the early iPhone (1 and 2) chipset. I am trying to keep the explanation simple. In essence I would write code that would allow the phone to establish a connection with the antennas and access the internet. I am trying to say I have experience in these types of things. I started playing this game about 2 months ago and within 2-3 weeks I noticed the problem you are describing. I could notice delays and have a somewhat educated guess as to why they were happening. It was pretty obvious to me that there was a communication's mismatch between my device and that of the opponent's with the server. I am so thankful that you researched this. I reached the conclusion that the streamers for example have a higher quality of service and casual players have a poor one. But you have evidence for this, while mine was just a hunch.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks for the insight. I’ve noticed the same thing about the overwhelming majority of popular streamers. No matter where they live, most always have a quality connection.
@OneEyeGamer
@OneEyeGamer 2 года назад
Great video bro. Can you do a vid on the setup for your netduma I have 1 never use it. Don't know how lol
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks man. Appreciated. I might consider that. In the meantime, check out Netduma's own RU-vid channel. They have a ton of 60-second tutorials and other videos. Give those a try and come back here if you still have questions. I could walk you through it. It's actually really easy to set up.
@loosh4654
@loosh4654 2 года назад
This video was super tight, dawg. Subscribing! I live in South America and usually get put in North American lobbies, so I always knew about the ping disadvantage, but I didn't know how Warzone (apparently) intentionally tilts the scale.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks man. That’s my theory.
@danielc6038
@danielc6038 2 года назад
Exactly right...I have a NetDuma also. Without the filter on... they connect me to Florida and Chicago, farthest from my location most times.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
That's so blatantly unethical in a sense -- for data scientists and engineers, who of everyone know best the importance of ping, to place players at such a disadvantage. Disingenuous at best.
@jamcowl
@jamcowl 2 года назад
Fantastic video, I watched it in a single sitting. This deserves 6-figure views and it's earned a sub from me because I want to see your next video. I appreciate the deepdive with data and even the high quality 1440p60fps upload, just an all round top notch video. It occurs to me that in a lot of the 50-50 gunfights you show, the enemy is the one pushing you while you're stationary. This gives them peeker's advantage on you and peeker's advantage is made more severe with high ping, so you naturally die more often with high ping because the enemy's peeker's advantage is stronger. So, at 19:02 when you say you play more passively with high ping, I think you should do the opposite - with high ping, you should always try to be the one to peek first so you benefit from lag instead of the other guy. Great video, looking forward to the next one.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks for the kind words - and interesting advice. I will definitely try it.
@Xornicus
@Xornicus 2 года назад
I'm glad I found your channel. You look at things in a similar way I do and its nice to see someone thoroughly dive into this stuff.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks, Tony! I’m glad others out there appreciate this sort of content. Have a great day
@dessytimoteo408
@dessytimoteo408 2 года назад
You just earned a subscriber! So I recently switched from worrying bout my games fps and I always look at my ping but I know that humans can only normally react between 15-30 frames or at most 60 if it’s pure reaction off what the human eye can see. I recently just decided to go with just upscaling my games quality and gameplay and chose to focus on my ping and it helped me realize like damn there’s more GBs I’m losing because I realized there’s a lot of ping spikes in some of my GBs and I noticed that I win most of my gun battles but lose to people who have a better ping and I mostly get 38-40ms ping every game. Watching your video and talking bout how basically pay to win is a thing even more makes me realize all the money I spent over the last 3 years probably helped me consistently stay in that range. Grant it I also have a pretty good UL speed to. But just gotta say man great video. Now I feel like I wanna play based on how well my pings which kinda sucks cuz I’m pretty aggressive in the game. Thanks brotha
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks, Desmond. You bet brother. Thanks for detailing your experience. Definitely frustrating.
@memorycard1000
@memorycard1000 Год назад
The best vid on the matter I've seen! ✨ Do gameplay vids and talk about gaming news or something . You are really well spoken and easy to listen to. Start the grind. 👍
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer Год назад
Thank you! Really appreciate that.
@skaBABBLZ
@skaBABBLZ 2 года назад
Awesome time and effort put into this. I’ve been playing at a competitive level since modern warfare 2 and I’ve also recently located to Montana. Without a doubt ping is the single most important thing that can be the deciding factor in a gunfight between 2 above average players who are both hitting their shots. I’ve dived into the rabbit hole of optimizing every single thing you can think of in a PC in an effort to leave no stone unturned. And internet optimization/getting gear like the netduma and nighthawk xr500 like I own to get better ping overrides any other edge you can try and get as a competitive player. You see these streamers with 11-15 ms ping, and I’ve had ping like this while living in Texas for a brief time, and it’s like playing a totally different game. It’s a rabbit hole that you will never completely have control of if you aren’t living near a server.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Interesting. Thanks for sharing. I’m hoping the new matchmaking algorithm in MW2/WZ2 builds lobbies first on connection quality and starts putting us into nearby servers (where we can get 20-40 ms ping) rather than on the east coast. Easy fix.
@samarjitmallick2077
@samarjitmallick2077 Год назад
You're criminally underrated my good man.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer Год назад
Thank you! Very kind of you to say.
@mikestavisky8009
@mikestavisky8009 2 года назад
I just subbed too. Thanks man seriously. I will also not spend another penny. I wish more would do the same, but with the money these guys are making, and us getting older and not being part of the "prime market" anymore I doubt anything will change... here's to hoping it will.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks Mike - and good for you. I’m with ya!
@lewis3896
@lewis3896 2 года назад
Wow, what a great video ! This is completely my situation Literally you and I are having the same experience. I try to explain to people KD they think I’m just bitching. But I know something is wrong. I practiced like you , bought a very high end pc Switched to M&K. My aim has gotten awesome and I still lose about 96% of my fights it’s crazy. And I’m always logging in between 85-90 ping
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Frustrating, right? They know what they're doing, too. Here's a university analysis paper I wrote if you want to learn more: t.co/4YZkdFSAiy
@benja_324
@benja_324 2 года назад
I experience this a lot in MW, when i play and the matchmaking its figuring out in what lobbies to put me I tend to play against mixed players, some good, some bad, some with higher ping then me and some with lower ping than me. After I entered the cycle of "bad game, bad game, bad game, good game, bad game..." I feel like the enemies kill me way too fast and I kill them way too slow, like if in those games that are supposed to be bad I deal less damage while the enemies deal more, for example, I get killed with an m4 and I think "that dude killed me really fast, my m4 doesnt kill like that" and I equip my m4 and I see that in fact, it doesnt kill like my enemie's does. When im in the "good game" part of the cycle I notice that this time I am the one dealing more damage, i feel my gun killing the enemies super fast, this is more noticeble with an mp5 and an M13, but mostly the M13 because of the damage, in the bad and regular games i need to hit a lot of shots while in the good games I just tap R2 and the enemies die almost instantly. I dont know if this is because the matchmaking prioritizes putting you against higher skilled players wich causes an increase in your ping since you are the one joining, while the higher skilled players are the hosts of the lobby and not prioritizing a good connection for you, or because they actually manipulate the damage values of you and your enemies depending on wich part of the cycle each player is or maybe im just mad that I loose and i simply got paranoid.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
I know what you are saying. I don't think you're paranoid. The problem is these things are hard to prove, although they have patents they say what you're experiencing is at the very least possible (and maybe likely). Thanks for sharing.
@shukhratbiggie931
@shukhratbiggie931 3 месяца назад
Thank you, you are a legend. Amazed by your statistics, that’s freaking awesome!! But I wanted to ask does this problem exist even today in MW 3/ warzone?
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 3 месяца назад
Thanks! I appreciate the kind words. But I don't know if it exists today (I'm sure that it does, though). I finally came to my sense about 18 months ago and uninstalled all Activision products off my computer. I'd had enough.
@shukhratbiggie931
@shukhratbiggie931 3 месяца назад
@@FPSBoomer thanks for answering! Keep doing your stuff, cause you do it absolutely insanely.
@mdotfire5730
@mdotfire5730 2 года назад
100%The Man Appreciate it i fill you this has been my theroie to good stuff I'm on ps4 not a boomer but right after that explained the details you put in to it and the ones I didn't keep it up
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks M Dot!
@iamreaperyt
@iamreaperyt 2 года назад
I've stopped playing COD but your explanation on the video really says a lot. Good job bro! Cheers and more power to your channel.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks Reaper. Appreciate that !!
@Dangeruss
@Dangeruss 2 года назад
I can't believe I'm just now seeing this video. This is the most well-done video I've ever seen that explains why I get shot, move behind cover quite a bit and still end up dying. I've come to the same conclusion that I will no longer support that game with in-game transactions.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Awesome 👍
@Treez13
@Treez13 2 года назад
Probably the best warzone video I've watched .
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Man. Thanks Tim 👍👍
@matthewpinson4208
@matthewpinson4208 2 года назад
Phenomenal video man! 🔥 this is one of the most detailed WZ-related videos I have ever seen! It deserves millions of views!
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Damn, Matthew! I need you on my marketing team 😎 Thanks, man. Much appreciated!
@brankosoucek123456
@brankosoucek123456 2 года назад
Amazing work. The lack of transparency by Activision it's always been bothersome and I truly hope they improve from this point of view for WZ2.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thank you. You and me both.
@187proof5
@187proof5 2 года назад
Great vid. I to am a 40 year old, born again gamer from Montana. I recently moved to the country side from B-town. So I was playing on a hot spot. Best ping I can get is 120. Over the last six months my KD has dropped .04, pretty frustrating. I got my starlink space internet yesterday and got 60 ping. Maybe give starlink a shot. I got it in less then a week
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Glad to have a fellow Montanan in here :) I’ll look into starlink, although I have pretty fast cable Internet. Glad you got your ping worked out. I wonder if it’s because we’re on opposite ends of the state.
@ryanreviews8566
@ryanreviews8566 2 года назад
I feel you so much in this. Same athletic background, same reasons for picking a BR, same startout as shit less than 1kd to now a 3kd. Both playing tactically and aggressively. I had the same conclusions where my best play is to fight tactically rather than joewo it even if I'm now capable. Simply because of all these server shenanigans that mess with fights & timing. Love all the movement and aim training improvements I've had because of WZ but I can no longer stand this shady manipulation over who has the best chance to win. Skill should determine it not the servers.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Man. I’m so glad to know I’m not the only one. Thanks for posting, Ryan. I think the competitor in me found a new mission: expose what I feel is scam science in gaming.
@carlosrivera4391
@carlosrivera4391 2 года назад
Outstanding video, Hope that the developers of these online games, begin to understand that players are getting wise to this ping and server problem. If they don't do anything new to fix it , I'm sure more and more players will NOT play online multiplayer games anymore.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks Carlos. Here’s to hoping.
@bennybazooka750
@bennybazooka750 2 года назад
Exceptional video and info!
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks, Benny!
@king_sapperz8939
@king_sapperz8939 2 года назад
Real good video, appreciate your dedication just for our knowledge on a complex (shady algorithm)
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks King! I appreciate the kind words. I have more to come
@king_sapperz8939
@king_sapperz8939 2 года назад
@@FPSBoomer almost forgot to ask, is the Duma R2 worth it? I’m almost in the same situation as you ; live Northern AZ, and I know the Seattle, SoCal and Utah servers but I only get connected to mid west servers where I’m at 90ish ping. I play mostly Solo or Duos, and I remember playing with a full squad (2 from mid west, and one from San Diego) and I got a 35 ping game, wonder why…….thanks again Boomer
@CyberdyneSystems435
@CyberdyneSystems435 2 года назад
You explain this so well! Ty ive been trying to explain this to people i know. Now ill have them watch this!!!
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Happy to help. Thanks for the nice feedback!
@gezaboomer
@gezaboomer 2 года назад
Totally agree with your concerns. Currently trying to play with 200 mls ping, when logging on to multiplayer the initial ping is 43 mls by the time a game is found and starts itnis at 200 mls +. Have never been able to play Warzone because of the latency issues and not being able to join a ps4 lobby only. Geza-Boomer 76 year old boomer. Qld Australia..
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Damn, Geza. You need to get a Netduma gaming router and put a geofence around that one Australian server. You're wait time might be high but at least you'll get a good ping.
@SoIoCreep
@SoIoCreep 2 года назад
When playing on Caldera I rarely connect to the west coast servers. So I end up with 90-105 ping most games... When playing ‎Rebirth I connect to the west coast servers almost every game. The Seattle server gives me 15 ping but I haven't seen it on Caldera in I don't know how long. It's very frustrating and to be honest, most of the time it's not fun.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
What’s up, Solo? We have the same experience. I’m really hoping WZ2 changes matchmaking to make connection quality even or at least very close for everyone.
@Adrian956txs
@Adrian956txs 2 года назад
Your not alone bro I get ridiculously high ping in caldera and in rebirth I get low ping I’m same ping as you I’m in southern Texas
@Lil-Freedom
@Lil-Freedom 2 года назад
What a great video. You explained my experience and all my frustrations very well. Good job on this one. You deserve way more views/likes. You got a new subscriber.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Appreciate you, Nathan. Thanks for the kind words and the sub 👍
@doclmoreno
@doclmoreno 2 года назад
Holy cow, I just came across your video because I wanted to see reviews of the netduma router. My friends and I feel the same way a as you do. Every player that kills us has a third of the ping or sometimes less. It is frustrating but we keep playing anyway. We aren´t really good, but we don´t suck, so whe feel that maybe if we try harder we will win those encounters we feel are stolen from us. But alas we rarely do. Always high ping for us. We also feel that beeing in latin america it hard to get players with 100ms or more but you live in the us and have as high a ping as us. We will try to get out of the high ping matches to see if it the algorythm put us in a better spot next time.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Glad to know I’m not alone. One thing you might try: if you die in a game to a player who has significantly lower ping than you, quit for the night. Don’t pick it up again until at least the next night and possibly a few days if you can wait. Trust me.
@doclmoreno
@doclmoreno 2 года назад
@@FPSBoomerWill definitely try it. Thanks a lot for the reply!
@smash_it7912
@smash_it7912 2 года назад
This is one of the best videos I have watched about warzone. This needs to be more widely know or Activision won't change a thing
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks, Stuart! Much appreciated.
@supajesse14
@supajesse14 2 года назад
I feel you brother and I was also an athlete before and warzone helped fill that very good video
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks Jesse 👊
@MrMattacka
@MrMattacka Год назад
What a great video. Commenting to maybe help you with one algorithm since we all know I can't help you with the other.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer Год назад
Thanks Matt!
@imhoteparchitect1787
@imhoteparchitect1787 2 года назад
This is my thoughts exactly, also there is a huge difference in latency numbers between Account tab in settings and in the upper left screen that can be deceiving and untrue. Most of my close fights are lost because i have exactly 100 ms ping😒
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
It’s definitely shady. I noticed my ping in the pregame lobby jumps anywhere from 6 to 8 ms when the game actually starts and also spikes during gun fights.
@purenoble1722
@purenoble1722 2 года назад
As a HAWAII player who gets 100+ lobbies DAILY. And 70 on a good day. I am relieved that some people do understand the actual frustration. People think all we do is just complain, but we have valid reason for us to be frustrated. Reason why we are ignored because low ping players don’t want to feel like they were handicapped or their kills are discredited because they only won due to them always having low ping. That’s not the case, high ping players just want to have the same connection that all other players have. Whether it’s high or low, as long as it’s same and even across the board. That’s what makes winning gun fights and matches so much more, it’s because we won knowing we had the same advantages as the other team or we loss fair and square from the other team.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Well said man. That's all I want too. Put lobbies together based on ping 👍
@dazdoestip6459
@dazdoestip6459 2 года назад
I already knew what the problem with ping is and what it causes but you explain it very well here. To add to this, your ping is very high compared to average.. I'm guessing here as I'm not in America and I get upset if my ping is 40 or more, but back to point, if your ping is very high the majority of players will be lower so this will add to the reason why 90% of players that kill you have lower ping.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
That’s a fair point. The issue is that I’m given high ping even though several servers each night would give me good ping or much lower ping.
@dazdoestip6459
@dazdoestip6459 2 года назад
@@FPSBoomer and that's where the matchmaking is the problem I guess
@FocusUp77
@FocusUp77 2 года назад
Good video, I feel your frustration with the game! It sucks to die in a gunfight that you should have won! I live in Oregon and should get Seattle or California servers but usually don’t. Keep up the great work!
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks, man! Appreciate that. We Pac NWesters need to stick together. I'm from MT and live there now but I lived in Eugene for a while. Beautiful state.
@andyb355
@andyb355 2 года назад
Good analysis and ping definitely does matter in getting your info to the server first. Being aggressive with low ping is the way to go, you can be in position way before they know about it and load damage on them before they realise and can react. They also cannot shoot you as easy as your hit box is moving around relative to the player model in positions they cannot predict as easily due to the delay. Another interesting thought, the server you get put on is at the mercy of the SBMM service and player population around these areas. By limiting your ping you are probably also affectively limiting the player base with whom you can be matched. I think this is another reason you are winning more gun fights, the average skill level goes down due to the player pool being limited.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Hey Andrew. Interesting. That could be. I’m working on another video right now based on a hunch I had. I think I figured out how to legally get Activision on its own to give me good paying. I’m 30 games into the experiment with about 20 to go.
@stickyfingergang5039
@stickyfingergang5039 2 года назад
Very well put together!!!
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks, Alex!
@froghair454
@froghair454 Год назад
So glad I found this video....been so damn frustrated blood pressure through the roof not knowing what the hell was going on....so is there a way to fix the ping? I live a few hours from Seattle and my ping is around 200 plus....I've got amazing download and upload speeds and my system is wired ....
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer Год назад
If you're playing on ethernet, then you are completely getting shafted. There are Activision servers in Seattle, in various California locations and often in Colorado. If you're getting 200 ms, it's likely you are getting place on either east coast servers (less likely) or foreign servers (more likely). A gaming router with DumaOS, like the Netduma, allows you to see all available servers, their ping, and then to pick which servers you want to play on and which you refuse to play on. Hope that helps.
@thomasschmidt7649
@thomasschmidt7649 2 года назад
Amazing video sir. I myself am a boomer gamer at the ripe old age of 47. I love war zone but completely hate the scummy vibe and culture around it. From cheating streamers to questionable practices by greedy pay-to-win Activision. I love this game, I hate this game! This video was excellent thank you for making it.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks for saying so, Thomas. My pleasure. That game is definitely a love-hate monster.
@willwood2360
@willwood2360 Год назад
I'm 54 and play every day
@gman8230
@gman8230 2 года назад
Sir, you deserve a Nobel Prize for the work you have laid out here today.....
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks, man! I'd settle for consistent lobbies where we're grouped based on connection quality, but a Nobel Prize is a close second :)
@skapun7744
@skapun7744 2 года назад
Great video. You should look into cameraing as it helps with being on a high ping. JGOD had made a video on it. It is essentially coming around a corner using movement mechanics or just sprinting around if you would prefer. This would cause you to see the player first on your screen because of the latency of your game and the desync of your character in comparison to the enemy. Hope this helps!
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Good advice. Thanks 👍👍
@Jerrycourtney
@Jerrycourtney 2 года назад
My _Modern Warfare_ K/D is 2.01%, with average accuracy of 33%. My _Cold War_ is 2.23 and accuracy of 36%. My K/D in Warzone is .47%. I currently have a Ryzen 9 5900x, RTX 3090, and use a Scuf Impact. I have all mastery camos in both games. I knew something screwy was going on.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
I can relate. I started on console and switched to PC in November. I have the Ryzen 5900 and RTX 3070. There always seems to be something off about Warzone.
@Jerrycourtney
@Jerrycourtney 2 года назад
@@FPSBoomerI also started on PS4. If anything switching to PC made me play better overall. Activision/BlIzzard is pure evil. I’m convinced. Have you seen the videos about the _Immoral Business of Diablo: Immortals?_ not totally irrelevant, as you clearly indicated there may be a correlation between buying the Battle Pass and getting a *W.*
@Lady_Tugg
@Lady_Tugg 2 года назад
I’ve told my friends ping kills me since the beginning of Warzone. I was on 400+ ping and was able to reduce down to 200-250 ms (I’m in Guam) playing with friends in Virginia. I have dozens of videos of Verdansk gulag where I’m doing 102-125 damage via straight up No stopping gun fight but I lose due to ping. I’m looking forward to being stateside in a few months.
@johnbryangarcia8864
@johnbryangarcia8864 2 года назад
Im in guam too. waiting to find a match is harsh
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
I view ping like a 100 meter track sprint. If you have 100 ms ping and the enemy has 50 ms ping, he gets a 50 m head start in the race. While Usain bolt could still beat me even if I had a 50 m head start most people couldn’t. Activision knows this and can leverage it any way they want to in an effort to appease the goals of the matchmaking algorithm.
@ballane1670
@ballane1670 2 года назад
Your story is my story. I am 47 and get so mad about the horrible ping all the time. I also bought a net duma router and have done search after search on how to lower my latency. I also live in Montana Hamilton for me. It is so frustrating. Here I get 86 on low end to 130 on the high end. One on one and up close I say crap it's going to be a miracle if I get out alive. It was nice to finally hear someone have the exact problems I am having but the depressing thing to hear is that there is no fix. I also bought a pc thinking that would help. You know the answer to that one. A little help but not much. lol
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Nice to meet a fellow Montanan! Love the Hamilton area. I think I might have found an honest fix. Hope to publish the video within a few weeks.
@ballane1670
@ballane1670 2 года назад
@@FPSBoomer I started watching someone talk about changing the numeric values on the router. I didnt finish because the guys were ready to play some warzone. I did start watching the pings as the match went on. The higher the kills the next match I had a higher ping and when I didn't get kills the ping would lower. Cannot complain to much we got 2 wins yesterday lol. Even at 130 ping. I did lose every close gunfight but my buddy came in clutch with cali sticks both times. Cannot wait to see the hopeful fix.
@MississippiBuds
@MississippiBuds 2 года назад
My buddies called me crazy when I said everytime I buy something I get bot lobbies for a day or so! That’s was back in verdansk! So when I realized that I stoped buy shit! Now I never get bot lobbies and I always lag! So I quit
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Very smart. Best thing you can do is quit.
@mguarin912
@mguarin912 2 года назад
Great piece of journalism.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks 👍👍
@okGDJ
@okGDJ 2 года назад
great video! Hope to see more in the future
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks GDJ!
@JohnKnightbridge
@JohnKnightbridge Год назад
Did you have any recommendations to remedy this? I have much the same experience in cod in general. Even though I have 1gig fibre. I've optimised everything I can think of on a mid end pc. My download speed on speed test. Net is actually good at 15ms but my upload is poor at 45ms. I'm dying when behind cover, get shots of but nothing on killcam, bullets not registered. Etc etc. Tried vpms, dns settings, ethernet hardware to hub, ports open for cod severs. Pc set to performance in every manner. Nothing seems to help 😔 P. S fantastic video btw
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer Год назад
Thanks, John. Appreciate that. The only thing I've found that helps is using a gaming router with DumaOS (I have the Netduma). That way, I can geofence the nearest server with the best latency and force the game to play me there. But because the game still has to go through its matchmaking shenanigans, it can take awhile to get into a game when you limit the number of servers you're willing to play on. Another problem is the tic rate of the Acti servers. They are a horrendous 20 hz. With a game with a fast TTK, this makes it so almost every 50-50 fight is a toss of the dice and not necessarily accurate. Then there's the potential for patented algorithms that, at least according to the patents, have the ability to buff and nerf players real-time. It's not proven those are enacted but something to consider. There is no doubt at all that the lower the latency you have, the better experience you will have. And so the best thing we can do IMO is use a gaming router.
@JohnKnightbridge
@JohnKnightbridge Год назад
@@FPSBoomer thanks for the detailed response dude. Yeah I think your spot on tbf. I've done some pc network optimisation, I can link it you if you like, though it did nothing for ping or latency, it did improve hit reg and overall feel. NetDuma is a gaming router right? I may invest in the future but not anytime soon. My isp hub is good for speed but lack in ping and yes the Acti servers are still in the 00's. Fingers crossed Microsoft will improve them when this deal goes through. But probs not 22/23.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer Год назад
@@JohnKnightbridge Yep, the Netduma is a gaming router. Yes - please link the network optimization story. I'll try just about anything :) Thanks!
@JohnKnightbridge
@JohnKnightbridge Год назад
@@FPSBoomer here you go, don't know if it's placebo after one night but felt a bit better. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MUZ1jpnr71w.html
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer Год назад
@@JohnKnightbridge Awesome. Thank you, man. Going to check it out now.
@ryanhoughtling5386
@ryanhoughtling5386 2 года назад
Great Video....... Well said and I couldn't agree more. And this doesn't even account for the SBMM manipulation going on within the games. Also the ping difference can mess up things like aim assist consistency.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks Ryan - and agreed. I’ll be doing a look at EOMM/SBMM in an upcoming video. Thanks for chiming in.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Ryan: I notice that my aim is on point when I warm up against bots - but it's often all over the place when I drop in against humans. Like the aim assist is regularly broken or not functioning right and even like I get aim resist. Have you seen a video that describes how ping can affect aiming? I'd like to watch it. Thanks -
@ryanhoughtling5386
@ryanhoughtling5386 2 года назад
Just Lag Compensation videos that describes how the servers try to anticipate peoples movement when they have a large difference in ping. Idk if it actually effects the aim assist or just causes you to shoot at a player model that’s not actually where he is on your screen.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
@@ryanhoughtling5386 Aim assist seems so inconsistent that I was wondering if a known mechanic might be at fault, if it's just broken or, even worse (tinfoil hat time), part of the matchmaking system. That's a big leap and really hard to prove. Thanks for the input.
@lain39x
@lain39x Год назад
damn bro your dedication to this game made me cry, i suffer too with high ping, even tho i've 500 up down, i get 100+ ping.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer Год назад
Thank you! Sorry to hear you get matchmaking ping, too.
@LowTide941
@LowTide941 2 года назад
I’m in The south west getting 100 ping most days withI gig internet. It sucks. Glad I found this video
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
You’re not alone!
@abdullahsfarini7684
@abdullahsfarini7684 2 года назад
I love how scientific this video is, definitely gained a thumbs up and a sub from me.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks, Abdullah!
@maverikk521
@maverikk521 2 года назад
So many of these gunfights are similar to me, see the enemy and shoot the heck out of them but die first. It's so frustrating, when I play with my squad they think I'm just moaning about my internet but I've got several videos of it happening so I know I'm not going crazy. It's like I'm on a 0.5 second delay to everything, and this is also confirmed by a few times my squad is spectating me and they'll say "oh shit" or something to the likes and I'm like eh? Then a split second later I'm getting shot at, so they're seeing me get hit with bullets before even I do. And I'm on PC and they're on console! Also explains why so many games I'm dying near instantly as I receive all bullets in larger packets. I do think aswell there's some internet routing issue going on also, how many hops your ISP is taking to their servers. I'd never took notice of the enemy ping in killcam but I will certainly do it. I have investigated this also like you have, as it's incredbly frustrating hah! I'm also around 1.5kd. Also for some strange reason, when I load up WZ now my games will search for a match on 35+ms to start with, when before it used to be around 20ms. I don't understand, I have a router set up and QOS. I am 100% on the side of it being engagement based also, to keep you coming back. It's a method that's been in games for a very long time, this is just a new implementation of it. Superb video also, I look forward to seeing your new one. Also just to note, I do think the Ping notifier in the top corner is a bit bollocks, as when I used to have really low lobby pings (Like 19-27ms) the same would happen still, so Lag Compensation would kick in. That's another factor I'd like to look into. I'm currently looking into each server I'm put in and where it is and how many hops it takes.
@riisky2411
@riisky2411 2 года назад
I’m right their with you.
@Richardt321
@Richardt321 2 года назад
This is correct even with low ping sometimes it feels like myself have to hit way more bullets than the enemy
@imhoteparchitect1787
@imhoteparchitect1787 2 года назад
The ping notifier is garbage it always show 80 ms, and when in account tab @settings it shows 90~100 ms the real ping
@Jay-bq5bz
@Jay-bq5bz 2 года назад
Your wait times are wild. I use a duma and set it at no greater than 65 ping and usually don't have to wait more than 60 seconds before I find a lobby. This is in SC. I still have the same things you describe happen in game tho. Can't tell you how many times I have escaped completely around a corner and still take hits and die
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Yeah, they're wild. Do you play the game a lot? Do you ever get thrown on a distant server with crappy ping?
@Jay-bq5bz
@Jay-bq5bz 2 года назад
@@FPSBoomer Not really random servers but you can see that sometimes you will connect to a peer connection vs a dedicated server. So I'm assuming that could increase your ping as well. I'm not really sure why it does that but you can block the peer connections individually from the Netduma settings. Yeah I play pretty regularly. Almost everyday. Thanks for the great content!
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
@@Jay-bq5bz You bet. Thanks man :)
@BOBBAKOW
@BOBBAKOW 2 года назад
Wow I’m in Hawaii, I average 120 ping…… this explains a lot. Thank you my guy
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
You bet 👍 Thank you
@boblawblaw6185
@boblawblaw6185 2 года назад
What I can't stand is when the algorithm will take you and drop you into a higher ping lobby (50+) knowing you have a good connection because its trying to lower your chance of winning and increase your " engagement " with the game. I also noticed that of the fastest servers I could connect to being a ping of 12 to 15ms because I live right by a server in maybe a state over... the game will place me on that server ONCE out of approx 10 times, and those are consistently the games where I have the most kills or best placement. all other times I'm playing on servers that are relatively slow to what I'm used to and paid for through my ISP
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Yeah. That’s frustrating. Funny how popular streamers get great connection quality every game.
@boblawblaw6185
@boblawblaw6185 2 года назад
@@FPSBoomer yep i was watching swag today, 3ms every game and still getting smoked by some people lol
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
@@boblawblaw6185 lol
@benji9871
@benji9871 2 года назад
A rare, serious look at the game… immediate sub
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks Metric. I appreciate you 👍
@dlikeayu
@dlikeayu 8 месяцев назад
based on 600ms ttk, if your ping is 150ms, you can get 4 times transferring inner the ttk, however even if your ping is lower as 140ms, you need to cost 700ms to get the last result of 600ms ttk, ridiculous. Network is everything, I didn't mention how 15ms(or lower) that the player can dodge lots of damage, because they transfer data quickly and server cannot count your damage prompt, their position has already updated, that's why you obviously hit them but actually you didn't.
@dlikeayu
@dlikeayu 8 месяцев назад
Lots of streamer tell you to rush, don't hide and camp, but when your lose lots of gun fight because of network, how can you have the confidence to do that? You might against me, let me tell you a true story, a streamer “symfuhny”, he has 22.4k/d in warzone, average his ping is about 15ms, someday in a game, his ping suddenly broken which is about 250-400ms, he got 0 kill in this game😂, funny?
@cjgportfolio
@cjgportfolio 2 года назад
Fantastic video. Do you think player level has anything to do with the odd ping statistics you encountered? I too run into the issue with bad ping on a frequent basis and of course it’s always to my detriment. I have a lot of clips of these gun fights and many of these players are lower levels than me. I’m talking levels 20, 30 or 40 when the season has already been going on for multiple weeks. But I can easily shred players around my level or higher. Not weird at all.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
The average KD of the player I died to was .20 lower than me - so nothing drastic. But I have noticed oddities like a very low-skilled player will stun me even though the stun landed nowhere near me, etc. I can’t prove it yet but it does seem lower-skilled players are helped out against higher skilled players. That can be by having a much lower ping, too.
@Ghost-bq9fl
@Ghost-bq9fl 2 года назад
Dude u hit the nail on the head with this video.I have allways thought it was pay to win as well as skill based Hit Reg , I seriously think its a thing.As far as SBMM theres so many people useing Vpns to get into bot llobbies or atleast their skill lobbies.Im not going to lie i use a vpn cause north america servers are sweaty AF and i cant compete against the G-Fueled out kids 😂.You def earned a sub from me .Your the only one tht has ever made a video about this stuff..Great video BTW ..
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks Ghost. I appreciate you 👍👍
@Magical_Mike_
@Magical_Mike_ 2 года назад
Although this is a great video and you are pretty much right in every way. One variable that you’ve might of missed (not sure if you covered it and I wasn’t paying attention lol) is SBMM. Your KD is well above average, so what I believe is that the matchmaking system prioritizes Skill based over connection. Therefore bypassing certain WZ servers to put you in a slightly harder lobby.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer Год назад
Hey, Michael. You are absolutely correct. Yep - if you play a lot and/or are a decent player, you get placed on poor servers. No doubt about it.
@kvltst
@kvltst 2 года назад
This proves that streamers aren't abusing lobbies based on low KD players, but more on low ping vs high ping. That's what the VPN's and white lists are doing. This ensures that these players get the best experience. FPS Games need Player Hosted Servers again. This peer-to-peer cloud bullshit needs to go.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
I’ve wondered the same thing. The most popular streamers (except Dr. D, who was black listed) get great ping every game. Makes you think.
@RAINMAKER213
@RAINMAKER213 2 года назад
what an amazing video and you have a talent for making these videos. Id like to say my buddys know 100% that their lag compensation and ping is a huge issue. Its crazy how even my buddies arent having fun anymore as much cause they are already older giving less reaction time + the shit servers we are given. Right now I have xfinity router. Does changing the router make a difference? Ive tried to do port forwarding but my pc wont show up as an option just my xbox. Do you have a answer for me friend?
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
A gaming router definitely makes a difference - especially one that lets you set QoS metrics geared to prioritize gaming traffic. I don’t know anything about your router but I like the Netduma.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
… and thank you for the kind words 👍👍
@kjelllvstad1260
@kjelllvstad1260 2 года назад
awsome video. soo good explained. Im average 48 to around 60 latency. Is it a way to lower it? i read that 40 to 60 is average. under 40 is optimal. Over 100 is bad..
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Hey, Kjell. 40-60 seems about average based on the pings I see when dying to enemies. I've seen as low as 5 ms ping and many 10-20 ms pings. There are lots of ways to lower your ping. I'd start by searching for that on YT or Google.
@kjelllvstad1260
@kjelllvstad1260 2 года назад
@@FPSBoomer Thanks for the answer man! Will take a look. But When i enable server latency in Call of duty meny, my PC shows latency. But in the right corner i can see Only functional in public games. And that Lateny is higher then the other . What is the difference?
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
@@kjelllvstad1260 As it's been explained to me (so I'm not 100 percent sure on this): The ping overlay on your game screen is the ping to the game server. The ping shown under your account page/screen might be the ping to the authentication server.
@elliot16
@elliot16 2 года назад
I noticed this back on blackout
@xrabbz2010
@xrabbz2010 2 года назад
What an incredibly well put together video, outstanding! I also think skill based hit reg is a thing and its been more noticeable the last few months
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thank you. Yeah, sure seems to be. It’s always something with this game.
@xrabbz2010
@xrabbz2010 2 года назад
@@FPSBoomer it’s definitely the most stressful fun I have 😂
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
@@xrabbz2010 😅🤣
@sillywillie5076
@sillywillie5076 2 года назад
Lol I can sware I had so many gun battles won but lost em on the kill cam, nothing shows what I thought was happening.. this definitely explains it
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@p-towner6665
@p-towner6665 2 года назад
Great vid bro. 👍🏼
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks. Appreciate that!
@عُمَرأبوعَصَا-م3س
I agree with every word you said.
@jmhagle
@jmhagle 2 года назад
You are a hero, definitely on to something, and I have some of the same theories when it comes to their sbmm or ebmm. One thing that debunks part of your theory is that my ping is never over 20ms and I have experienced all of the same issues as yourself. My theory which differs slightly is that they compensate for everyones ping to the game server. So if your ping is 20ms and average of lobby is 60ms then they will add 40ms of delay or compensation and vis versa if above the average ping they will reduce ttk somehow. I believe their real sbmm algorithm has to do with lag compensation not lobby k/d. The reason I believe it is individual lag compensation or handicapping is because I play with the same warzone party 100% and one player is a .5 k/d and I am 1.5 k/d, if sbmm was based on lobby k/d she would never get a kill compared to me, but every now and then 10% of the time she will end up with 10 kills to my 1 or 2 when 90% it is just the opposite. Another thing to note on my similar frustration to get fair gunfights I have continually upgraded every bit of my pc for better performance. And I can say that with each upgrade(cpu, gpu, monitor, keyboard, mouse), I will have about 10 great games then back to status quo, next upgrade, 10 games are good again then back to normal. I believe some how the game can track end to end latency of the system and compensate to keep things fair across all systems and platforms. My end to end latency is probably around 25ms and compare that to an older xbox on wifi, wireless controller and a terrible tv with input lag and that players end to end latency could be well over 100ms. So in order to keep things "fair" they compensate in some way.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
They very well might do that - or any number of shady things. I just don't trust them at all. Thanks for sharing.
@Mark-wz9uh
@Mark-wz9uh 2 года назад
Yes, lower ping in general gives you an advantage, always has in any online shooter. I haven't watched the whole video, but looking at the first few examples of you loosing the gunfights is just opponents breaking your camera. I guess you know that, because you are a good player. Getting camerad gets compounded on higher ping, so you you basically never want to stand in the open and preaim someone coming around a corner (even if he doesn't slide cancel, you camera will still be broken). But you don't want to do that on a low ping either, because peakers advantage is so broken. Lower ping gives you better advantage when peaking, higher ping allows you to shoot enemies that are on their screen already behind cover (the server will register the shots because on your screen you hit him).
@sublime929
@sublime929 2 года назад
What do you mean by "breaking a camera"??
@Mark-wz9uh
@Mark-wz9uh 2 года назад
@@sublime929 Basically peakers advantage. The person that comes around the corner has a huge advantage (sees you first).
@theoneders2056
@theoneders2056 2 года назад
I notice that when my ping is 30 or less, I lose a lot more gunfights and get killed before I even see the enemy bullets come out, yet on 40-90 ping it feels more balanced. What's up with that?
@truthx7
@truthx7 2 года назад
@@theoneders2056some low ping server's have low tick rates,this can actually make the game feel bad with hit registration.if a high ping server has a high tick rate,then it will be much more responsive due to the faster tick rate .
@akmassifier4635
@akmassifier4635 2 года назад
Great video my dude. Try playing from Alaska!!? I’ve had exactly 1 game on Caldera with a ping under 80. I avg 120-140. It gets so FRUSTRATING. Been playing since MW season 5. Lots of games. Lots of BS deaths on garbage servers.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
I can emphasize with you. I get it. That would be super frustrating.
@nermacfeels1496
@nermacfeels1496 2 года назад
Like looking in a mirror... Subbed.. Thank you for this vid. At one point after you see that you got better but still lose, u start thinking u are crazy lol
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Haha. Right? I know your pain. Thanks for sub. Appreciate it 👍
@riisky2411
@riisky2411 2 года назад
Connection based> skill based love the video you earned me as a subscriber. But you didn’t pick up that mobile buy at the end. Whyyyyy lol that gas system thing sucks especially compared to a mobile buy😂
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Haha. Great point. I’m a bot like 70 percent of the time 🤣🤣
@riisky2411
@riisky2411 2 года назад
@@FPSBoomer I usually sit around 40 ping but occasionally I’ll jump to 70-80 and when I do I notice I lose a lot of fights where it appeared I shot first. It’s very frustrating seeing every streamer at a steady 10 ping or less
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
It’s crazy right? They get low ping all the time.
@riisky2411
@riisky2411 2 года назад
@@FPSBoomer yep then have the audacity to circumvent SBMM for easier lobbies.
@scythering2850
@scythering2850 Год назад
Feels effortless to do good in warzone on low ping. It’s almost like everyone else is moving in slow motion
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer Год назад
What a difference, right? The makers of these games know how much it helps. So why, when good servers are available to players, do they put them on bad servers? It's scam IMO.
@scythering2850
@scythering2850 Год назад
@@FPSBoomer it really is a scam. i went from struggling to maintain a 1.7 to effortlessly getting 6 kd's almost every match just because of ping. also it was after taking like a half a year break so in theory i should have been doing terrible
@MrCuban
@MrCuban 2 года назад
You need to have a data science diploma
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
I appreciate the vote of confidence but I would imagine that real data scientists could find about 1000 holes in my approach here. Tried to be as measured as I could. Thanks for the kind words!
@MrTToken
@MrTToken 2 года назад
Great video. Stupid question - how do you check ping of an enemy who killed you?
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Hey Token. If you play on PC you can go into in-game settings (I believe under “Account”) and turn on GPU Temp, Packet Loss and Ping - so those stats always show on your screen. Then when you die, you can also see the enemy’s ping on the replay. I don’t think this is available on console. Let me know if I can help any more!
@MxrkoPro
@MxrkoPro 2 года назад
Nice video! My ping is 80 to 100 every games on my pc.. and i have a good internet connection.. there is a way to lover the ping or not? Hope i can lower my ping one day😭
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
I'm working on a video about that right now. Hope to publish it early August!
@icouldusesomemoney4218
@icouldusesomemoney4218 2 года назад
On XBox1 I get the little 'triple yellow boxes' on the left side of my screen constantly. I'm simply chum for the sharks, if I play. Cool vid. Explains alot :) My internet is 'metropolitan cable hard wired'. I never get ping less than 70, usually higher. When I do a 'Test Connection' I get great "potential" ping, but it's never realized. I've NEVER spent money in the game... I wonder if that would help ;)
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Interesting. Yep. Chum for the sharks. You know how I feel about your experience and the fact you haven’t spent money. It’s a sneaky system.
@beadlesastout
@beadlesastout 2 года назад
Basically we have to stay away from games that are pay to play or pay to win. Any game with online transactions will have things stacked against you.
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Sure seems like it. Hopefully it’ll backfire on them.
@brunokucevic4288
@brunokucevic4288 2 года назад
Beautiful video
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks, Bruno!
@eu_fox2950
@eu_fox2950 2 года назад
Fantastic video! Thx for informations!
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Thanks 👍
@ericgene08
@ericgene08 2 года назад
That’s why in my area of Hawaii with a greater ping of 100-150 plus or more! It’s no doubt of course the ones with lesser ping will win the gun fight even said call of duty (activision) servers are Terrible from before! All the lobbies in MP SND are all 200 plus ms ping! But you really nailed it on this on-going topic but I try to make the best of it! Also I play mostly on rebirth smaller map with lesser ping cause of lesser players and 60-70ms ping is fine with me! But again you got to make the best of what you got SBMM or not its just luck if you can win a gun fight!
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Hey Eric! Thanks for the comment. I have to remember it's a video game meant to be fun but I'm a crazy person who gets too into something when I get into it. You take the much better approach :)
@linardsp
@linardsp 2 года назад
Shit i always tought that i was too late or too bad reaction with 1.6kd and now i know that 100-120 ping is that thing that holds me from going crazy on cod
@FPSBoomer
@FPSBoomer 2 года назад
Yep. Ping is hugely important. It comes down to whose bullets register at the server faster. Low ping gets those bullets there in time to get the kill.
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