A New Approach for Narrowband Processing in PixInsight

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This video demonstrates a new, easy, consistent and FUN way to work with 3 color bands in PixInsight. This video shows leveraging the latest scripts and processes. The fundamental technique is to create an HOO image first, then colorize the third component (SII) and finally blend together.
This video comes from the new course at AdamBlockStudios.com called Narrowband FastTrack (a part of the Horizons collection). Step-by-step guides, data to follow along and many not-widely known innovations will bring your imagery and understanding to what Adam uses in his own work.
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@davidkennedy3050 19 дней назад

Adam, if you keep doing videos like this, novice imagers might actually start to think PixInsight is not that hard.

@AdamBlock 19 дней назад

*smile* Quite a compliment

@kmh032008 16 дней назад

Finally photoshop-like controls in pixinsight

@IcedReaver 2 дня назад

Great presentation Adam, thanks for sharing. I recently acquired some 20hrs of SHO data on the Heart Nebula so I'm looking forward to trying this approach to see how it compares!

@georgiberle1227 2 дня назад

I just can say: WOW, so amazing!

@MrGeert1972 16 дней назад

All the scripts u used are native to the latest version of PixInsight? Or do I need some new repositories? The end result is jut Whooow 😯

@AdamBlock 16 дней назад

Not native. If you follow the link to my NB FastTrack course you will see the list of the scripts and respositories that are used. It is a public link you can click on.

@MrGeert1972 16 дней назад

@@AdamBlock thx I will take a look at it

@DreBo99 17 дней назад

By now, we should not be surprised to receive such high-level tutorials (or should I call them masterclasses) from you. The resulting images are outstanding in many respects. With that final result of the Rosette Nebula, you still blew me away. EPIC!!! Thank you Adam!

@kuendla2453 20 дней назад

I'm just wondering if Spaghetti Nebula weak O3 signal can boosted similar way? Great video BTW...

@AdamBlock 20 дней назад

Yes... you see. A new method provides a new way of thinking about solving problems. This is what I hope makes my content and instructional videos useful. :)

@Astro-gom 20 дней назад

Thanks for the video Adam. I actually just subscribed to your Horizons collection and super happy with it. Learning a lot and feeling like I am making strides with my images.

@AdamBlock 20 дней назад

I appreciate your feedback...thanks!

@chriskagy6143 14 дней назад

Adam, at 2:30 you remark that the O3 is significantly bright that you won't need to make it any brighter. If it weren't significantly bright, or if it were lower contrast (say it were shot under more light pollute skies), how would you have addressed that?

@AdamBlock 14 дней назад

Buy my course... NB FastTrack? lol The quick answer is linear fit or NB normalization (or both).

@chriskagy6143 14 дней назад

@@AdamBlock lol! I knew what part of your answer would be! Thanks, and we all appreciate you showcasing these new techniques.

@himalaYAK1983 17 дней назад

Incredible image, nice tutorial. I wish I had the means to jump into narrowband right away. Subscribed for when I finally do.

@ChucksAstrophotography 19 дней назад

Excellent!

@anata5127 19 дней назад

Is this a Hubble palette or modified HSO image? Is it applicable for any narrowband image or only with strong Sii and Oiii? Thanks

@AdamBlock 19 дней назад

It is applicable for any narrowband image that has three significant colors. Some objects are just Ha and OIII...so nothing more to do. This is something like an HSO in this particular case. However, if you start with an SOO base image.. you can make a SHO like result.

@anata5127 19 дней назад

@@AdamBlock Thanks.

@Lacquerhead-TX 19 дней назад

NB is one of the disciplines that I've struggled with. Thanks Adam! Glad I subscribe to your content both here and on your website!

@AdamBlock 19 дней назад

Thanks! I really am trying to make it easier!

@kertahoon7328 17 дней назад

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@dgasparotto 19 дней назад

Excellent video learned a ton. I would have incorporated more stars and bring out the background just a little more.

@simonpepper5053 19 дней назад

Incredible Adam that’s the best image of the Rosette I have seen great composition and you have processed that perfectly will be trying this never knew you could colourise individual channels! Ps I love your presentation skills keep the detail it’s what makes you the best!

@theastrollnaut 19 дней назад

not a huge fan of Narrowband editing, but damn I need to try it. Looks fantastic and like an easy workflow to follow along

@AdamBlock 19 дней назад

Thanks. This is the idea... I didn't like what saw many people doing as well. It was a lot of manipulation to get to a point. I think this is an easier and more flexible path.

@LogansAstro 11 дней назад

This technique will come in very handy, especially for those instances when the SII has such gorgeous detail of it's own but often gets swamped by the brighter Ha in a typical SHO combination. Thanks for sharing.

@AdamBlock 11 дней назад

Thanks for diving in ...

@nikostriantopoulos9900 14 дней назад

Thanks Adam. It's amazing !

@ianspector1357 19 дней назад

Truly outstanding, I will watch the new Fundamentals unit today and reprocess some data. It is worth mentioning the sheer joy in general of working with good quality data with enough integration time.

@DSOImager 19 дней назад

Wow! I shall give this a try. One thing though.. I happen to like a little green in my NB images.. I like using it as a transition color between the Yellows and Blues. Will be interesting to see if I can introduce a little with this method.

@AdamBlock 19 дней назад

I dislike mapping green from a red band. bleh

@JonnyBravo0311 19 дней назад

Now I'm going to have to revisit some of my SHO data to create new versions of images. I'm also going to try something like this to blend Ha into an LRGB image. Just so happens I'm about 24 hours into LRGB+Ha data collection of SH2-86. Was pretty happy with the image I created earlier, but this brings an entirely new way to approach it. Thanks for showing this, Adam!

@AdamBlock 19 дней назад

Thanks for watching!

@astrojet9484 19 дней назад

Well done sir,this is certainly the best NB version of rosset I've seen as a middle school student.

@BGoff 19 дней назад

Great video Adam. Thank you for sharing this.

@zaphus 19 дней назад

That is a really interesting approach - I do prefer this look to the SHO palette, but I always feel that HOO is missing something when there is Sii to be captured - so can't wait to give it a try!

@AdamBlock 19 дней назад

Excellent! But just consider..this approach could be used for SOO and then the Ha becomes the colorized image to be blended in...

@zaphus 18 дней назад

@@AdamBlock Mind blown!

@jratino 12 дней назад

Adam, I started the NB Fastrack recently, haven't got through them all yet. But had to watch this one as I was very intrigued. Question: is the NB Color Mapping script an add on? Thanks

@AdamBlock 12 дней назад

It is indeed a third party script that I collaborated with Mike Cranfield on. Please search the videos on my RU-vid site and you will find I have several that cover this topic.

@jeffratino5456 12 дней назад

@@AdamBlock OK Thanks

@jeffratino5456 11 дней назад

@@AdamBlock Turns out I have it installed on my laptop, but not my PC that I recently built.

@jeffratino5456 11 дней назад

@@AdamBlock Question: Once I apply the Colourmap, why is my image stretched?

@AdamBlock 11 дней назад

@@jeffratino5456 Sorry... I am not certain I understand. NBColourMapper will work with either linear or non-linear images. It does not stretch anything (unless you mess around with the histogram feature). In my video, I am working with a stretched image. I stretch the SII before colorizing it. BUT... if you use NBColorMapper to create an image from many layers...the brightness values can add up... kind of like stretching. This is would be something to avoid. I am not showing anything along these lines in this video. Finally.. .because now I am just guessing... remember, in ColorMapper you should turn OFF the STF display if your image is already stretched. Maybe it is this last thing.

@MrFlyer201 19 дней назад

Adam, Congratulations! Bravo to you for this outstanding method. I'm a subscriber to Fundamentals and Horizons and I accidentally saw this new posting and very glad I did. I just "completed" my first NB SHO image, M16 with 50 hours of data. I think I will try to redo it trying this method which I'm sure will make for a most interesting comparison. Your videos have the perfect amount of words by the way! Thanks again!!

@AdamBlock 19 дней назад

Thank you!

@paulmacias6802 19 дней назад

This looks fun!

@AdamBlock 19 дней назад

I am serious... it is. I look forward to getting to this part of the workflow...that is how you know it is "fun"

@undersouthernskies519 15 дней назад

Adam, this is exactly what I have been wanting to do for a really long time. My Sulphur data is usually the poorest of my three channels, and being able to give it prominence like this (and avoid so much "green management") might just solve that particular struggle for me. Thanks a lot 🙏

@AdamBlock 15 дней назад

Thanks for the feedback!

@gooe9561 19 дней назад

I appreciate your thoroughness. Great video as always.

@AdamBlock 19 дней назад

Thanks!

@naztronaut 19 дней назад

Amazing result, Adam! Also kudos to Russ Croman for the crisp data. I'm going to try to follow this with my OSC Narrowband Data. Clear skies!

@AdamBlock 19 дней назад

Great!

@Mr86Toni 19 дней назад

Is it possible with OSC?

@AdamBlock 19 дней назад

@@Mr86Toni Yes. People who use the multiple Dual Band filters of Ha/OIII and SII/OIII can extract the Ha, OIII, and SII data...then then proceed with my demonstration. You do need three bands of course for this particular process.

@Mr86Toni 19 дней назад

@AdamBlock oook thanks 😊

@BEC0MM 18 дней назад

Very interesting methodology, thanks for sharing :)

@AdamBlock 18 дней назад

Thank you for watching...

@jonathanritter7364 19 дней назад

So if im using a dual narrowband that only uses ha and oiii, how do i obtain the sii to use in my project?

@AdamBlock 19 дней назад

Yeah, this requires three bands. With only two mapped colors (that do not typically overlap ) adding a third isn't possible. You can however still use NB ColourMapper to colorize and ImageBlend to put together in creative ways. I show this in my course under HOO examples.

@haiderbhogadia4829 20 дней назад

Absolutely fantastic! Many thanks Adam

@AdamBlock 20 дней назад

Thanks.

@gregpierens1882 18 дней назад

Thanks Adam. Had a a go using it on a small dataset which I acquired with SHO filters. I was unhappy with my conventional processing but with this one you just showed it looks good! Thanks

@robertlowenthal689 18 дней назад

Adam, this is a game changer! Thank you!!!

@AdamBlock 18 дней назад

Thanks!

@MatthewHolevinski 20 дней назад

Those poor stars didn't get much love 😢

@AdamBlock 19 дней назад

They got as much as necessary. lol

@seanmasten8187 19 дней назад

Beautiful Adam. You're a wizard.

@AdamBlock 19 дней назад

Thansk! (Mischief managed...)

@Jcastleinfo 17 дней назад

Is this what you are calling the Gilding Method in the NB FastTrack series?

@AdamBlock 17 дней назад

Yeah... I did not come up with a better name. That is probably a terrible name. lol

@Jcastleinfo 17 дней назад

@@AdamBlock meh, it makes sense for Sii like this. Now I have to go back and finish watching that series after this preview :)

@nikaxstrophotography 19 дней назад

Just watched it and wow well done Adam, succinct and straight workflow with just the right amount of information to make this a breeze to follow. I will try this technique soon

@haley25joel 18 дней назад

Hi Adam, thanks for the video. I would like to ask if this method can also be used if I used the ultimate filter on a color camera. How can I proceed in this case? Thank you very much Adam.

@AdamBlock 17 дней назад

So many variations and permutations right? The Ultimate is a DUAL band (two color) filter. This technique uses THREE bands (colors). In my course I show how to process DUAL band OSC data as well.

@haley25joel 17 дней назад

@@AdamBlock Thank you so much Adam, Can you kindly tell me the name of the course?

@AdamBlock 17 дней назад

@@haley25joel Please see the description below the video for a link. It is Narrowband FastTrack.

@Infinity_Focus 17 дней назад

Thanks for another very interesting tutorial. I just started watching and I asked myself: Why are you starting with a starless image, instead of starting with BXT and then applying SXT. This way you could also use the automatic PSF detection. So where is the advantage?! Thanks a lot!

@AdamBlock 17 дней назад

Stars of narrowband images are really not a good reference to use if I want to apply BXT equally to each of the bands. In addition and more importantly I want to apply BXT *after* I have applied Linear Fit. This changes the values within the weaker bands and will give different answers. To understand why it is important to do this in my details... get my masterclass. I don't process without explaining- and I address you exact question in my course.

@Infinity_Focus 17 дней назад

Thanks a lot@@AdamBlock . I just thought that BXT does a PSF estimation bases on stars rather than on background. If you apply BXT using PSF parameters, it will probably only do an isoplanatic deconvolution. This might not be a good way for everyone, especially when you have lower performance in the corners. But I might be wrong.

@AdamBlock 16 дней назад

@@Infinity_Focus It is true you will not be taking advantage of the aberration correction. You can then do a two step BXT - with just correction on the images with stars first. You are not wrong... but you are not necessarily optimal either.

@baz_astra 16 дней назад

What scope was that image shot with btw?

@AdamBlock 16 дней назад

FSQ

@Arcteek 16 дней назад

Fascinating thank you

@AdamBlock 16 дней назад

Thank you Mr. Spock!

@oakleywindowcleaning 19 дней назад

Nice, thanks.

@AdamBlock 19 дней назад

Thank you

@plofstof 19 дней назад

I have a question. My understanding was that NarrowbandNormalization should only be applied to non-linear images? Perhaps I am wrong? But here I see you applying it prior to the stretch. In any event, thank you for amazing content. I am busy with the NB Fast Track videos as we speak.

@AdamBlock 19 дней назад

It can be used in either domain. You should NOT use that lightness feature though if you are linear. lol (If you are a member of my new course... you will understand this comment)

@thomasrider5852 20 дней назад

This is mind blowing! Thank you Adam

@AdamBlock 20 дней назад

Thanks!

@thomasrider5852 18 дней назад

@@AdamBlockSo Ive watched this a few times now trying to really soak it in, what I keep coming back to is I really like the music, what is it lol

@AdamBlock 18 дней назад

@@thomasrider5852 LOL. I didn't credit them... I guess I should. There are three bits of music. I have a collection of royalty free music that I use. I would have to look back and see the exact artists/titles.

@Skyman82 19 дней назад

Great video. The only thing I wished you did more of was go through steps geared for One Shot Colored Cameras. I think the majority of amateur astrophotographers use a OSC.

@AdamBlock 19 дней назад

I always include OSC in my tutorials. NB FastTrack is no exception. This technique applies to both (once you have the extracted Ha, OIII and SII). I demonstrate this in my videos. I also believe that OSC is only superficially different than mono... once you have the right data.

@ramprasadprabup6025 19 дней назад

Love it!!!

@AdamBlock 19 дней назад

Good... get the course (if you are no already a member)! :) thanks...

@charliemiller3884 19 дней назад

What I need is a set of Pixel Math formulae that can create synthetic SHO frames from OSC narrow band data.

@AdamBlock 19 дней назад

But you don't If you join my course you will see how to use the DBXtract script and get this in one button press. Don't you agree that is easier?

@darkwood777 19 дней назад

I don't like the idea of using a spot gradient mask on something that is obviously not spatially a spot. I liked the rest of the demo.

@AdamBlock 19 дней назад

Like I said... use GHS or the like to get the stretch you want. It was more important to get the point of the video...not include more minutes on getting the correct stretch. If you want more information on *that* aspect... you know where to find it! (on my site at AdamBlockStudios.com)

@jonathanritter7364 19 дней назад

This shit looks confusing for the noobs

@AdamBlock 19 дней назад

I don't think so. The typical workflow is much more confusing, more variable, and often less rewarding. Don't take my word for it...

@jonathanritter7364 18 дней назад

@AdamBlock maybe it's just cause I'm not familiar with any of it. I'll give it a go. Can this be done using a OSC? My dual narrowband filter only allowed Ha and oii. Can i use this technique without having a sulfur channel?

@AdamBlock 17 дней назад

@@jonathanritter7364 This particular technique is for three bands. You can use the technique with OSC... but three colors.

@nikaxstrophotography 20 дней назад

Please don't make it too wordy, love your videos but sometimes I get lost in the detail.