A non-rushed look at Meta's v67 and Fluid's latest beta. Are browser apps better?

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v67 is out in the wild in Meta's Public Test Channel. The spatial experience is becoming even more ubiquitous. In this video I take a slow walk through both v67 and Fluid's latest UI update to show you what's possible both in the Quest's native OS as well as a stand alone browser app. The similarities are impressive! And in some areas Fluid's app provides more functionality. It's amazing that in the last few months advancements have come this quickly.
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Chapters:
00:00 - Let’s GO
01:20 - New Dock Functionality (v67)
01:40 - Move windows anywhere (v67)
03:05 - Max 6 Windows (v67)
03:32. - Watching Content (v67)
04:23 - Temporarily hide other windows (v67)
04:50 - Dimming doesn’t work in pass through (v67)
05:20 - Windows don’t stay fixed (v67)
06:28 - Advantage over Browser Apps (v67)
07:00 - Virtual Keyboard Updates (v67)
07:40 - Tracked Keyboards work! (v67)
08:13 - All windows are not resizable (v67)
08:37 - Snapping in the dock (v67)
09:54 - No desk viewport (v67)
09:18 - Auto resizing (v67)
10:55 - Taskbar functionality (v67)
11:05 - Lacking moving window functions (v67)
11:36 - No saving window position (v67)
12:08 - I’m not that guy
12:15 - Fluid UI Updates! (Fluid)
12:42 - 5 Windows max + Omni dock (Fluid)
13:24 - New full screen windows UI (Fluid)
13:50 - Dimming passthrough and immersive (Fluid)
14:53 - Window Spaces Manager (Fluid)
16:58 - Multiplayer / Shared Rooms (Fluid)
17:28 - Shared Window (Fluid)
18:10 - Custom Environments (Fluid)
19:00 - AI generated Skybox ( Fluid )
20:36 - Voice to Text (Fluid)
22:07 - Touchable screens
22:30 - Window “Follow Me” Feature
22:58 - Final Thoughts

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@TheConstruct_VR 6 дней назад

It’s been a while since we’ve done a longer video! What do you think? At this point browser apps are more feature rich. But you can’t do everything in the main OS I guess. As always thanks for watching!

@jakewastaken День назад

Saving window setups in Fluid is pretty legit. I’m glad they implemented that. I haven’t been back to it in a minute

@MsUsernameification 6 дней назад

You’re easily my favourite quest RU-vidr. Every time I watch, I want to grab my question again. I’m off to check out the new version of Fluid. Thanks!

@TheConstruct_VR 6 дней назад

Glad you’re here! FYI some of the things shown are in the latest beta build of Fluid. Details in their discord. But it should be live probably later this week. Even the current build is solid! We’ll see you on the next one!

@MsUsernameification 5 дней назад

@@TheConstruct_VR yeah, I checked. Damn!

@BoKnowsGaming 6 дней назад

It’s exciting to see Meta constantly pushing the Quest 3 to new heights, especially on such an affordable headset (considering the VR market). But man, Fluid is kind of ahead of the curve. I might need to check it out more seriously.

@TheConstruct_VR 6 дней назад

Definitely spend some time with it! With your mouse and keyboard connected. They’ve spent some time on the app and it shows.

@TicTac-g7m 6 дней назад

I really enjoy not only the thorough content, but your "teaching" style as well. Great work and subbed.

@TheConstruct_VR 6 дней назад

Thanks! Welcome to The Construct

@alyssafierro7481 6 дней назад

Nice job bro.. will be trying Fluid today. This video is very helpful... Keep it up!!

@TheConstruct_VR 6 дней назад

Glad it helped! fluid is pretty nice. You won’t see this everything in this UI in Fluid for a few More days but you can join the beta. Event the current build is solid.

@davido.p.9850 6 дней назад

Really appreciate such an in-depth look at these. Still rocking the Q2, but it's definitely coming time to upgrade.

@TheConstruct_VR 6 дней назад

Lots to enjoy when you make the move to upgrade for sure! Thx for watching

@therationalworkforce 6 дней назад

Look at that subscriber count! So awesome to see you growing and thriving. Congrats, man! Onward and upward!

@TheConstruct_VR 6 дней назад

Thanks for being here.🤜🤛

@muzzuhumble7871 6 дней назад

Loved this detailed vid ❤️

@TheConstruct_VR 6 дней назад

I hate how rushed content feels these days. I’ll do more of these when it makes sense!

@Elroy-fs2oe 6 дней назад

Well done. Very concise and informative.

@IamAsar 6 дней назад

Great videos as always! 🔥

@TheConstruct_VR 6 дней назад

🫵😎

@BDLeader88 6 дней назад

I enjoy them both as they both have their strengths and weaknesses. Looking forward to seeing the progression of both

@TheConstruct_VR 6 дней назад

Same!

@gbbenner9382 5 дней назад

The intro song is 🔥

@TheConstruct_VR 5 дней назад

🫵😎

@MAXimator70 2 дня назад

great channel! subbed!

@TheConstruct_VR 2 дня назад

@@MAXimator70 welcome! 🤜🤛

@cryptoriko21 6 дней назад

Love your Videos bro!❤️ Greetings from Germany.✌🏽

@TheConstruct_VR 6 дней назад

Great to see you here! Danke fürs zuschauen!

@ShaunaMorgan 5 дней назад

I'm not taking credit for it, lol but it was one of my suggestions on their feedback website to make the windows rounded. I also suggested they allow us to change the colors and transparency of the windows. Glad one of my wishes was granted. Nice see the long form video. Really enjoyed it.

@TheConstruct_VR 5 дней назад

Ha! I love that they’re listening to the community. Their Discord is 🔥 Thanks for watching and the feedback. I’m hoping to see long form make a comeback. Too much rushed content out there these days!

@mattiaforcella9092 6 дней назад

The AI generated Skybox is something I didn't know I needed.

@TheConstruct_VR 6 дней назад

Right!? I have to get some better prompts. People in their discord have made some really cool skyboxes.

@YogaLifeEtc 6 дней назад

I hope fluid introduces curved screens soon. I love watching movies on a curved screen. I also do love that fluid moves the screens forward and back with the joystick, PTC v67 needs that asap. Thanks for sharing!! 🙏🏻

@jakewastaken День назад

The sky box prompting is a really slick feature. I’m way more impressed with Fluid than I was.

@TheConstruct_VR День назад

100% using it in the cabin environment is super nice too. They’re dedicated to making Fluid a nice experience. I need to get bette with my prompts 😄

@mrrm1st 5 дней назад

That was a great video. Really for productivity we need higher resolution and lighter headsets but we are getting there very quickly.

@TheConstruct_VR 5 дней назад

Yeah we are in the infant stages for real. Thanks for watching!

@KennylexLuckless 6 дней назад

That is cool, but it still years away from what people want, like if you are two in the same room it had been great if a "host" could share a window that are in the same spot for booth users, like a scoreboard, a whiteboard or just Netflix so you could simulate a larger screen. Thank you for a informative video and for sharing. Edit: Ohhhhhh, I watched again and saw I was getting coffee just when you talked about "Fluid" and shared rooms, now I have to test that too 😀

@TheConstruct_VR 6 дней назад

Yeah that’s totally possible in other apps like workrooms used to have it, VR chat etc etc. we need a good workspace app to keep good screen sharing. Thanks for watching!

@Benwager12 4 дня назад

Whilst more of a social platform instead of a home interface, Resonite has some of this functionality, allowing users to work on operations that are usually done in Unity or Blender in game and with other users.

@paulhillman8335 5 дней назад

This was a really good Video to show me everything in version 67. I really appreciate it and I'm gonna subscribe now. I also liked being exposed to fluid and I'm gonna look into that.

@TheConstruct_VR 5 дней назад

Glad it was helpful! Welcome!

@almaximus03 6 дней назад

🙏🏼

@brianmolony 6 дней назад

Great video. You can side load apk now with mobile vr station.

@TheConstruct_VR 6 дней назад

Awesome!! I’m going to tinker with this for a bit. Not sure how much I want to try during the PTC. Hopefully the full release is a bit more stable.

@deenclassic 5 дней назад

I updated the software on my Quest, but it's still stuck on the old look. Any advice?

@TheConstruct_VR 5 дней назад

If you’re in the PTC and have updated you still need to go to Settings > Experimental features and turn on new window look

@marleh9945 4 дня назад

all very nice. but again this issue like with the spatial app: why cant videos from google photos or icloud photos play??

@ProgrammistMusic 6 дней назад

i just tested v67 and for my usecase it's not really at a point i personally want it to be. I often use 2D windows while i am in a 3D native app or using Virtual Desktop. I often have a browser, chat, audio player or notpad website open in the background while in a game. Either i play music or have to check something, so i press the menu button to see and control the 2D apps. And here comes the 1st issues. Only one window is left at the center and it always snaps to the same position. If i resize it and go back and forth between 3D and 2D it always snaps to the default size, which is very annoying. At least this worked in v66. The option of having the windows near and further away also seem to be removed. In older versions you could actually have the three fixed windows open at the same time, but that also has been removed. The whole idea of having multiple 2D apps running in the background is reduced to the bare minimum with this new firmware. In addition to this the windows positioning with the controllers is not very good. You could pick a window and move it to a specific position, but if you want to move it back and forth you cannot use the thumbstick, which would be the most intuitive way if you use a controller. I really wonder who does the actual tests at Meta for different usecases. It all may work if you just want to to work with a couple of 2D and using hand tracking, but once you use the controllers and a combination between 2D and 3D/VR it's barely usable.

@TheConstruct_VR 6 дней назад

Thanks for spending some time here on the comments. And I align with what you’re saying it’s just shy of being useful. Which is why I find myself back in Fluid or Virtual desktop even after seeing this update. I hope it continues to get polish and isn’t just a knee jerk reaction update

@imacmill 6 дней назад

It all seems so clunky to me. But I'll give it a spin, anyway, once I pull myself away from flight simming. 😊 Great video, as always...thanks.

@TheConstruct_VR 6 дней назад

To be fair it’s ALL about more clunky than just looking at a physical monitor or phone. We’re still in the early stages with these toasters strapped to our face. 😄 but exciting nonetheless.

@nickshave4140 6 дней назад

If Fluid can get netflix working it's a go-to IMO

@TheConstruct_VR 6 дней назад

Yeah 100% It's a much more feature rich experience.

@ZorkVirtualReality 5 дней назад

Since you've shown several spatial computing apps, which one is easiest for doing everyday work? Fluid, spatial or? ....just wanna find something good for everyday work use Great work as always my friend!

@TheConstruct_VR 5 дней назад

Fluid is my favorite so far. It just works and there’s no fuss. I rarely go back to immersed or workrooms. I spend the most time in discord, emails and watching content in Fluid for sure. Always good to see you in the comments 🤜🤛

@r.m8146 6 дней назад

6:01 I think we should have two different buttons for both functionaties. A button to bring all your stuff with you can also be handy.

@TheConstruct_VR 6 дней назад

Yes, some sort of toggle would be best. "follow me" or "stay". I'm thinking the simplest appoach would be holding the meta button would bring all the windows to you instead of tap.

@syrus3657 5 дней назад

Cool breakdown as usual. Whats the framerate like when using these browsers (out of your own personal experience) as a rough estimate.

@TheConstruct_VR 5 дней назад

It can’t me anything under 30 because RU-vid is at 30 and you don’t notice any choppiness. I wouldn’t say it feels as smooth as 90 should feel. Just a guess everything is probably somewhere between 72hz and 90hz I also don’t know if setting the 120hz setting does anything in the main quest OS. I honestly didn’t have any complaints to give it much thought.

@syrus3657 4 дня назад

@@TheConstruct_VR damn that sounds sweet, youtube does make it super chppy.

@TheConstruct_VR 4 дня назад

@@syrus3657 yeah I honestly think it’s because RU-vid is at 30 and the headset is at 72 or 90 so that drop in the RU-vid video is what you’re seeing. Or the fact that my exported footage is only 30. It really is impressive. And with snapdragon making strides with their chips it’s only going to get better

@ALionlikeMane 6 дней назад

As someone who uses the Quest 3 as no-laptop coding setup (with Squircle and Godot IDE) the potential here is nuts. I do wanna see them give up on the dock though. Just let us freeform all six possible apps, and revamp the launcher. They don't have to steal it from Vision Pro (I'd actually prefer that they didn't) but I do wanna see the app launcher get way better.

@TheConstruct_VR 6 дней назад

Agreed …we need a launcher more akin to a task bar or dock for launching apps. Sticky windows aren’t as useful. Fluid gave up one window to try out a new launcher.

@ThepurposeofTime 6 дней назад

I think I remember someone saying you could put a lock on the free windows, so they dont refresh back to the taskbar if you press the Meta button

@TheConstruct_VR 6 дней назад

I’ll have to look for that. It wasn’t obvious where that would be

@SheikAshii 4 дня назад

It NEEDS to be thumb stick to make it miles away to 1 mm away and left right for size as big as a planet or as small as a pixel. It’s vr, why are there any restrictions at all? I hate the dock/size limits/distance limits/location limits these things usually have. Glad it’s finally leading towards how it should have been done in the first place

@TheConstruct_VR 4 дня назад

Yeah Fluid is better at it, it even works with the wheel on a mouse to move the window back and forward .

@dhruvjani3158 4 дня назад

They wanna learn something from Apple and make the buttons focused and selected if your hand control is some where around the button. that will make the experience 10x better

@TheConstruct_VR 3 дня назад

i agree …I noticed this from Apple when they added mouse support to the iPad. It actually is good design and takes away from micro-aiming to select stuff like.

@dhruvjani3158 3 дня назад

@@TheConstruct_VR Yup yup

@ZFCaio 2 дня назад

Can't wait to put my hands on my Quest 3 dude Already purchased, it's coming next week For me it was the best choice, I want to use primarily for gaming and PCVR, already picked some games on Meta Store and also others on Steam, but I will certainly use mixed reality a lot besides gaming Apple Vision Pro is impossible to buy here in Brazil, with all the taxes it gets more expensive than a brand new decent motorcycle, also it doesn't serve for gaming PSVR2 seems nice and is more interesting, but it lacks MR, and I don't have a PS5 So Quest 3 was by far the best option

@TheConstruct_VR День назад

Man I’m enjoying it very much and access to the PCVR library just ups the value so much. I’ll be covering some games here on the channel so stay tuned. Excited for you my dude! And yeah I’d go over buying a vehicle over the AVP any day lol

@ZFCaio День назад

@@TheConstruct_VR Yeah, I have a gaming laptop, and I picked Half Life Alyx during the Steam Sales. But what makes me want this headset is the possibility of doing more things other than gaming, like watching RU-vid while I wash the dishes. I picked up a Language Learning game on Meta Store, called Noun Town, I think it will be fun and useful

@unspaghettible 5 дней назад

Honestly forgot dark mode was optional in the quest 🤯

@TheConstruct_VR 5 дней назад

😅 like “what’s wrong with this guys quest?”

@tomlee45 2 дня назад

I want the dock completely gone. I don't like that the bottom row is locked to 3. Fluid UI is pretty sweet.

@TheConstruct_VR 2 дня назад

Yeah Fluid is doing good things! You can hid their Omni dock too!

@viperjay1 5 дней назад

You are supposed to have 60 virtual windows, with (two keyboards) one virtual keyboard and one physical keyboard tying 160 wpm and reading the matrix code backwards. It looks like the video warping of the pass thru has come back again.

@TheConstruct_VR 5 дней назад

😅 I’m not 100% sure I have the “warping fix” but this is v67 PTC you would think it should be there. I think the warping is better but it’s so hard to tell if it’s placebo or not. 🤷🏽‍♂️

@trubachoff 2 дня назад

Apple, with its spatial computing, multi-windowing and eye control, seems to be holding back the development of virtual reality. Because they offer us an interaction with space that doesn't correspond to how we interact with it in real life. We miss the ability to place virtual items and attach windows to walls in XR. Hey Meta, we're still waiting for this feature...

@trubachoff 2 дня назад

Too many screens are anti-productivity. Productivity means being free from distractions, which is why many editors have a Zen mode.

@TheConstruct_VR День назад

Yeah I worry that augments may end up waiting until the next hardware. They saying “it wasn’t good enough” says a lot about how the feature must be working in its current state

@stevenjenny8521 5 дней назад

I use follow me when mowing my lawn

@TheConstruct_VR 5 дней назад

really!?! What facial interface / headstrap are you using for sweat??

@stevenjenny8521 5 дней назад

Still experimenting.

@andythebrave 4 дня назад

V67 stops airlock pairing pc prperly

@j00bs 6 дней назад

Netflix wasnt wanting to stream huh..

@TheConstruct_VR 6 дней назад

No it streamed fine , DRM protection blacks it out in the recording. I could see it but you can’t.

@balogunlikwid 2 дня назад

Since when did JARULE become a tech youtuber?

@TheConstruct_VR День назад

🤣

@TheDanielShepherd 4 дня назад

Lol of course the entire thing is ripped from VisionOS.

@The3kproduction 6 дней назад

6 windows is NOT more than enough!

@TheConstruct_VR 6 дней назад

Really?! I only pay attention to 3 or so at a time. And remember you can more tabs in a browser window. But personally I don’t need all those windows at once.

@The3kproduction 6 дней назад

@@TheConstruct_VR imagine when more games are avil as one of those windows. Along side other 2d apps. And maybe run something with augments when that comes out too. Idk apples Vision Pro would laugh at just 6 windows

@producerdevelopment 6 дней назад

@@The3kproductionwhat a stupid ass comment bruv

@TheConstruct_VR 6 дней назад

@@The3kproduction maybe so, but I try not to get tied up in horsepower. Like even on the Apple Vision Pro or just a PC or MAC. I’m not using more than 6 windows at once. Just because it can doesn’t mean you go full throttle all the time. I get it though. I think augments it’s a bit of a different use case than just a workspace. If you want to map an entire room with windows or widgets you’ll need more than 6. It will need the performance which is probably why augments were delayed.

@The3kproduction 6 дней назад

@@TheConstruct_VR Very good points , I agree , yeah just cuz u can doesn’t mean you will or need to . I do want more multitasking while playing games though

@ArmanIRL 5 дней назад

I just want to pin a window in my upper FOV while walking around the house in passthrough.

@TheConstruct_VR 5 дней назад

Have you tried the pin/follow me mode in fluid? 23:20 It may not be far enough in your upper POV. It kind of sits over to the side

@fluidspatial 5 дней назад

@@TheConstruct_VR It actually "learns" wherever you put it and puts it back there while you're moving.

@TheConstruct_VR 5 дней назад

@@fluidspatial ah! Perfect

@ArmanIRL 4 дня назад

@TheConstruct_VR to be honest I didn't make it to that part of the video yet. Does Fluid require a guardian or is it OK to use in passthrough?

@TheConstruct_VR 4 дня назад

@@ArmanIRL it’s fine in pass through, you can disable the guardian in dev tools and it works fine . But the guardian is on by default like other apps.