You can't argue that miroku made some pretty high quality guns back in the day. For a Japanese branch of Sears and roebuck I would not complain about owning a miroku reproduction. I had a black powder rifle made by miroku and the only complaints I had about it were complaints about the previous owner not taking care of it
@@pennsyltuckyden3434i can only imagine how smooth the action is as well as the loading gate. I got a rossi92 for my first lever action and its decent but i can tell these are top quality. Btw 73 and 92 are my 2 favorite models followed by the 1866. Great video thank you🙏
I bought a Miroku Winchester 1873 saddle ring carbine in .38/.357. It’s the first Winchester I’ve owned not made in Connecticut. It was a hard pill to swallow but I have nothing but good things to say about the rifle. It’s excellent quality. Excellent fit and finish. I’m sorry to see the 1866 came and went before I had a chance to buy one.
Aside from the heartburn of Winchesters being made outside of the US, the quality of these rifles is undeniable. I'm quite sure they're as mechanically fit as any of the originals. I've got one of the 52B reissues and it is a one-hole wonder. Since Winchester stopped making many of their "Old West" guns by the 1920's, except for the '94, I'm glad Miruoku is producing them again. And, these guns are made with better steel than the originals. Besides, I like to shoot my guns and actually use them so a reissue works fine. I wouldn't want to take an original 1873 to the range just in case something happened to it. If a new 1873 is what I have to shoot, way cool. My 52B has opened my eyes to how good these Miruokus really are. Great video! 👍
They really are beautiful rifles, thanks for checkin them out. There's a really nice Rossi 92 on my channel as well. Marlins and Henrys are on the way.
I just bought one of each. I bought a Winchester 1873 chambered in 357 magnum, and I liked it so much that today I bought a Winchester 1892 chambered in 44 magnum. These are quality rifles.
I have one of these rifles w long octagonal barrel, buckhorn sites, & leather wrapped lever. It is a take down 45-70 Miroku sporting a Ultra High Grade walnut stock and this rifle is my favorite all time gun new or old. I can just keep it out to look at it shine, and it does shine! Thanks for sharing.
Miroku makes some excellent firearms, fit and finish is top notch. I have a Winchester 1885 45-70 and every time I take it to the range I get offers to buy it!
Very nice, just bought a brand new M94 Winchester (Miroku) short rifle in 30-30.... can't get over the finish. very happy. and yours look the same as mine, beautiful !
My Miroku Winchester 1873 is beautiful and accurate. It likes .357 Mag over .38 Special, probably because the length of the brass. Probably would be a great bush hunting rifle for deer. I bought it for Cowboy Action Shooting. I am proud to own this high quality Japanese made rifle. I have read that it is already drilled and taped for the popular peep sights that are available but double check that you buy it is correct for the brand. Check Midway USA, I think.
Bought a Miroku 1866 Yellowboy in 44-40, short rifle. As much as I procrastinated about buying a foreign made gun,this gun is top notch. No complaints.
I know this is an older vid but the Miroku Winchesters are actually bitter than the original guns as far as fit finish metallurgy and tolerances. Don't get me wrong, I love old Winchesters, but these modern guns are fantastic rifles to hunt and target shoot with. You will never have buyer remorse after buying any of the lever gun models!!
Both very nice. Just purchased a Miroku and checking out videos. 1892, 24" barrel, .357 magnum. Can't wait for it to arrive. Have no need for the larger calibers, so .357 will still be fun for plinking around and more cost effective.
I have two Miroku Winchesters, an 1866 Deluxe with beautiful wood and an 1873 with a case hardened frame. The only reason I don't get an 1892 is because of the thumb safety. Why did they put it on the 1892 but not the 1866 or the 1873? I would never hesitate buying a Miroku made firearm. They do great work.
I really want one of those Winchester 1873's in 45Colt made by Miroku of Japan to go with my two Colt 45's !!! I don't know whether to go for the 24 inch round barrel or the octagonal barrel which is more period correct I believe !!! I just want one !!!
Like my father and grandfather and even my great grandfather were all gun owners and collectors, as I am like they were. They have since gone but have left me and my son a great legacy of firearms that not very many men have the advantage to be a part of. I was passed down two model 1873 Winchesters and three Marlin lever guns. All of these guns were bought new and were kept in fine working order to this day. I will say that the copies by Miroku are the best reproduction lever guns made by anyone, bar none. I have to say that they actually are better guns than Winchester manufactured themselves. The quality and detail of the firearms are all excellent. Given that, when I pick up the original 1873 and run some rounds through it compared to the Miroku action right after, there is a really distinct difference in just how slick the Winchester operates compared to the drag of the higher quality Miroku. The Winchester is by far the more easily operated firearm. The 73 is in 38/40 caliber as opposed to the 44 magnum of the Miroku. But I guess after another 10-20 thousand rounds cycled thru the Miroku it might start getting wore in like the original big daddy.
My local gun shop got in a Miroku 1873 plain blue steel, round barrel and walnut (?) which is what I wanted, I had the money in my pocket , it was pretty. The groove in the bottom of the brass lifting block was all chewed up , either the mill bit was broken or galled . Either way, I couldn’t understand how this made it past inspection. It was ‘unacceptable’ .. so in a side by side comparison with the Uberti Deluxe 1873 . . It had much nicer wood, beautiful checkering, beautiful color case hardening, octagonal barrel ,, all things considered they both had beautiful bluing. So, Japanese or Italian at 2/3 the price, neither is a ‘genuine’ old school Winchester (I have several) .
I have to agree with you, the newer Mirokus are not coming out as nice as in years past. I think I got mine around 2014. Good luck with your Uberti they are beautiful rifles with a great reputation
Yes The Chiappa 1892 and 1886 rifles are very nice indeed and there are no stupid tang safety on there guns. The fit and finish are as good as any and better than most. The walnut used on the guns I have seen are way better than any other guns on the market today and the case colors look fantastic. Uberti could learn a thing or two from this company.
I bought my first 1892 winchester rifle and was wondering if the front forearm is a little loose on yours?? Doesnt seem normal to me. I emailed winchester but haven't heard back yet. Is it supposed to be that way???
IIRC Browning offered a Miroku built 1886 without the tang safety, though to me having the Winchester name is kind of neat, as is offering it in takedown.
Here’s a question I hope you can help me out on. I was wondering about the cleaning process on the 92 44mag. Do you fully disassemble after shooting or are you able to clean it without a full breakdown? Reason I ask is it looks like a pretty big task to disassemble and put back together. For instance I have an old marlin that had one screw to take apart. Any info on this would be greatly appreciated since I have one in the cart and ready to buy. But wasn’t too pumped after I seen a video of everything he was taking apart to clean. Love the video!!👍
Winchester does not recommend breaking down the receiver for cleaning. Hickok45 has an excellent video on cleaning lever guns. However don't forget to clean out the magazine tube, it's very simple. They are very low maintenance guns.
I'll agree with most of the other comments. I have a miroku made 1885 traditional hunter. Great shooter and fit and finish leaves nothing to be desired. I consider it a reproduction in the same sense as the Ubertis. But chose the Wiroku because the function is more faithful to the original highwall. (Comes up on full cock).
Both of these rifles were very beautiful. I'm thinking about buying the 1894 in 38-55 with the 24-inch Barrel. I'm not that concerned about the Tang safety the other than I would like to put a tang sight on it but I've seen pictures where people were able to mount a Tang without affecting the safety. I think you're right the Japanese quality is very high. My last two vehicles are Japanese infinity for my wife a Toyota Tacoma for me both have been one hundred percent reliable without a single issue. Thanks for sharing
I checked on a vennier sight for the Miroku and I believe that you can find this sight on Midway USA for the Miroku already drilled and tapped for the '73. . Double check me please.
@@pennsyltuckyden9823 Thanks for the come back. I ended finding an unfired “used 92 in 44 mag. $800 out the door. Rifle is solid, well made. Rebounding hammer is my only complaint.
@@pennsyltuckyden3434 Thank you for response. I have a 1873 winchester miroku short rifle in 45 colt. I would like to buy a winchester miroku 1892 sporting rifle 24" in 44 magnum, but it's impossible to find in France. It's possible to find to usa ? What is the price in dollars $ ? I think 1500 € in France if i found. Best regards. Duckenwhite.
You sir have a very sharp eye, the 1873, under the proper lighting, does have some area's on the receiver were the blueing seems very thin. Nice catch.
@@pennsyltuckyden3434 Yeah 100% Miroku bought out Winchester to do their rifle line 100% to SPECS was in the deal of contract agreement or NO sale was to be made !!!! PERIOD !!!!
@@kenwalker687 yeah you don’t by Winchester you buy chiappia old real Winchester’s my 86 from pedersoli doesn’t have rebounding hammer and no tang saftey just half cock the way it is supposed to be
MIROKU makes decent guns, they just don't have quite as nice a wood or finish as the Italian made reproductions from Pedersoli or Chiappa. Not to mention the 1892 tang safety just kills it for me. The most horrible location for one ever imagined. Thows off the looks of an otherwise decent looking gun. It can be a bit harder to find an Italian made 1892 in stock but they can be found. Those Italian Winchesters are absolutely beautiful and are so closely made to originals that their parts can be used as replacement parts in originals. They are a bit more pricey though but it is worth every penny. A Miroku is an excellent budget gun though and if you can make it past the fact it's made in Japan then it is a good option. Better Japan than China I guess. Not for me though. I would alway prefer original American made first then Italian made. They are the absolute closest to originals and are consistently nicer.
I still don't trust them. I prefer ore 64 Winchesters. I have felt the levers on some of the newer ones and they feel loose and sloppy with a lot of fit and finish issues. Maybe in recent years that has changed but just like Marlin, I avoid them.