A Postmillennial View Of The Devil 

Thank you so much for taking the time to share this information...As a jw for 43 yrs,which I am newly saved! Praise my KING for opening my eyes and heart, 1 John 5:19 is drummed into our brains... So we live in fear and pray for Armageddon to come. Now through listening to you and some others, I no longer live in fear. But have a wonderful understanding of my salvation and my Victorious King!❤ AGAIN THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND SHARING!

Of the increase of his government, and of peace, there will be no end.... Such a thrilling truth. Thank you for a wonderful sermon.

I have found this eschatology so liberating. Helping my weakness of anxiety.

This teaching was so helpful, Joel! My husband and I are becoming postmill after living our whole lives as pretrib/premill. It take time to fully change your thinking.

This seems to be the final postmil nail in my premil coffin. This was a biblical based Christ centred proclamation of the postmil understanding of eschatology. This was so clear and easy to understand. Thank you dear brother. All praise and glory to Christ alone the risen King. Calling Christ the risen King really means so much more from this perspective.

None of this is new to me, but you have definitely laid it out better than most! Thank you Pastor Joel!

What a great lesson. Thank you brother! I have long thought we as Christians are powerless as to the end times and we can only lead others to Christ and await his return. I see many men out there fighting for truth, for freedom, for love. You have given me hope and courage to join them in this battle.

Post Millennialism makes the most sense

Pastor Joel, that was 🤯🤯🤯 You've touched on pretty everything a Christian should know about their faith on from front to back, that was mind-blowing! 😃 Grace & peace our Lord Christ Jesus be continually with you! *ALL GLORY TO CHRIST !* 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

Such a blessing and so edifying. I love the deliberateness of your method of teaching. I don’t know how else to describe it and Praise it for the glory of God.

Pastor Joel is a great teacher! He makes difficult theology easier to understand.

So much meat to dig into, in one video! Thanks Pastor Joel

Dear brother, thank you so much. I am greatly encouraged to hear your proclamation of our victorious Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ! I don't know of anyone else in my church or immediate circle who believes in Christ's triumph through the Church. This conversation truly encouraged me. One of my recent thoughts has been the Proto-evangelium. The crushing of the Serpent necessitates the destruction of his power over death if this Great Promise is to have any meaning. In light of the Fall, the devil's power of death is fundamentally his power to deceive. Christ has fulfilled the Great Promise! Our ancient nemesis has been crushed! He is no longer free to deceive the nations. All glory, honor, and praise be to our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ!

Pastor Joel, I just want to personally thank you, you've really helped me on my walk. I wish you the best and God bless!

One of the most informative videos I’ve seen in years.

Excellent! Thank you very much!!!

Thanks for this Joel. I became convinced of the postmil position in late 2019--just in time for the apocalypse, lol. I like these couple of points you made help to succinctly state the postmil case: - While both premils and postmils think Christ wins, the postmil think Christ wins through His church, while the premil thinks Christ wins in spite of the church. - The Bible clearly says that all enemies will be defeated before He comes. So when He does come, there will be only one enemy remaining. Both are great points direct from Scripture.

As a former pre-mil, current amil, this was very helpful. One thing i will say, the zeal of post-Mils is contagious.

How long ago did you become post-mil?? Our daughter her husband and many of my Orthodox Presbyterian friends are post-mil. The more I learn about it I am leaning much closer to post-mil. We were dispensationalists for 25 years before becoming Presbyterians, 7 years ago. I am still searching through this eschatology.

I am a baptist with belief in a general resurrection at Christ's second coming. However I have enjoyed the message and share many of the doctrines espoused in this message! I watch much of your content pastor Joel and appreciate the work. Thank you!

Thank you for laying out your eschatology with such straight-forward, plain honesty. I have always held to a pre-millenial eschatology, but I have never heard the "Post-millenium" position explained so clearly.

This was really good. The postmil view is so much more edifying than the dispensational premil view. May Gods will be done and His Kingdom come on Earth as it is in Heaven Amen!

This is brilliant. I thank God for your works!

Currently reading through Dr. Greg Bahnsen's book Victory In Jesus: The Bright Hope of Postmillennialism, and I had just started the last section on Satan when I found this video. God's timing is perfect! May the Lord continue to bless you and your ministry as you proclaim the truth of the Gospel to a dying "world".

That was a great exposition. You did a good job defending the postmil view. Thank you for your thorough yet simple explanation. This was helpful.

I blame us for letting him do so much, when God has given us so much and in fact everything needed to deny Satan every and any scheme/machination. He’s literally given us everything, in giving himself. It’s incredible.

No longer on the fence anymore like I have been the last year and a half--this video made it click. Officially postmil.

This has been a longstanding question for me. Thank you. Well done!

Your commentary is fantastic

Man God has blessed you being someone who can break down things to the layman so well. Thank you I never heard of this viewpoint. I'm very intrigued and can't wait to dig into my Bible regarding this. Just came across your content recently keep up the great work you're doing for God's Kingdom God bless

Brother, This is a fantastic vid. Not simply on PM, but on the victorious truths of Reformation faith. Thank you. I am forwarding the link to my Christian siblings. So again thank you. Eric Jensen

I appreciate your time in explaining postmill view point. I am also strongly encouraged by your belief in a revival of ethnic Israel. I know many postmill Puritans believed this. There were premill Puritans too who believed this, and that's where I am at. Even though I'm premill, I believe in one people of God. Yes there will be a redeemed Israel, but also redeemed Egypt and Assyria as the Scriptures say

The point that the devil is a creature and is not omniscient nor omnipresent is an important one. And your admonition about "the devil made me do it", don't flatter yourself, you've never run into him is exactly right. Nearly all temptation and all sin is born of our corrupt natural hearts. As Jesus said it's not what goes into a man that defiles him, but that which proceeds from his own heart that defiles him.

Jesus is LORD! He is ruling and reigning on David's throne NOW!

This was outlined magnificently! I just came to post mill and I am so joyful over it, so I am looking for places to affirm my new revelations ( Doug Wilson,James white, etc.

This is my new favorite channel. I pray that post millenialism will become the dominant eschatology view in the church.

At this point, I think we can add America to the list of evil empires

You are a very good teacher brother. You're deep enough for the university educated theologian, but explain things well enough so that a child can understand in the depth of what you are teaching. Thank you.

Our experience in the Church can and does shape how we see God and the power of the Holy Spirit to revive the Saints individual but to also revive the Church. I believe God is awakening His Church one saint at a time, and I see that you have a greater view of God, that you see the Christian life with a new clarity and a greater view of God. God awakens us by the Holy Spirit, to a new Love of God and His Word and realization that all things are possible with God. The gift of faith, believing what others have not yet seen, but a unstoppable desire to be used by God to awaken His Church. Keep trusting and depending on God, I enjoy watching God awaken men eager to be used by God.

Thank you for this excellent video. My husband and I are amil at this point in the journey but were very much encouraged by this and we loved the fishing/bait idea to express the doctrine! So much packed into this...really liked this 'living room style' of teaching! God Bless!

Very helpful pastor, shared. One thing that is never mentioned on this topic is while the devil isn’t everywhere all the time, demons are still a problem are they not? Thanks!

I am only 2 years coming back to my childhood faith. I feel like I'm still crawling trying to l3arn to walk with our Lord. Decernment is so difficult for me, do many views I was unaware of all the different perspectives the Calvinisim, the views on Mell. The post, pre, awe, the Rapture, views on tribulation. The Hollywood Theology was the only Theology I knew the Apple in the garden , the flood of 2 animals each, people vanishing out of thier clothing! A man in a whale! I remember sitting in the pew next to my grandmother and being in awe of all the mystery and I truly brought that childhood cut and polished outlook on Christianity with me when I came home to our Lord. I feel into a charismatic church and felt right away where is Jesus where is my salvation I knew pretty quickly this was wrong, yet fir the past year and a half I've struggled with sorting through all of the rest. I have no place , I flip flop in a Methodist church and Baptist and I find allot wrong with the teachings in both. I often thought "am I not a child of God" Is this burning desire for truth a sign I don't belong in a world NIT of this world? I know I need to put patience to work here but at 46 years old I've spent all my life of accountable age in the depths of sin. The only parent of 2 young girls I'm understanding time is short and in order to guide them properly I need to gain some footing. Feel very unsteady. Thank you so much for this vid. Post of these context are so helpful for someone such as me, seeking !!! It was very comprehensive for even a laymen on shake ground. I'm hoping some of you wonderful people can give some advice and encouragement. God bless you all

This was an excellent lesson.

Can you start doing a postmil view of - blank? Because resources are scarce on the topic and then to apply it to different topics is nice to hear.

This was such a helpful explanation! So encouraging!

You just blew my mind in the first 9 minutes

See, that's ONE of my main hang-ups with postmill thought! How in the world can anyone believe that Satan isn't deceiving nations anymore? What in the world!? Yeah, he's still deceiving nations alright. That's obviously happening across the world 🌎 right now

That is the illustration from the Lightlings!!!!

this is fire

It's good to hear you started reading about it. Did you find it helpful, and will you ever do it again?

I would love to see you talk with the guys from the stone choir podcast.

Pastor Joel...please do the same about hyper preterism.

There's also a difference between a dispensational premill and a classic premill who doesn't hold to the dispensationist ideas

Pastor: Shouldn’t we Preterists say Christ’s Final Coming, not His Second Coming? God “comes” many times in judgment throughout Scripture, and Christ “came” in 70 AD to judge apostate Israel, which He predicted in Matthew 24.

He crushed the head of the serpent in the garden. Jesus Christ is dividing and conquering. He is doing this today through His Word, His People and all by the power of His Spirit. He is Worthy!

Do a video on why you don’t hold to covenant baptism 🙏🏽

Excellent treatise

I believe in the historical view of revelation. That is, the one in which Martin Luther and the other reformers recognized that the Roman Catholic Church was the fulfillment of Mystery Babylon and the office of the papacy was the fulfillment of the man of sin/son of perdition and that they did their best to snuff out the true saints and the scriptures (the two witnesses) for the 1260 years that they ruled over Rome (538 a.d. - 1798 a.d.). Prior to that the Roman Empire persecuted the saints from the time that Jesus died and resurrected up until 476 a.d. when the empire collapsed. GIven all of that persecution, I just can't see how there was ever a time where anyone was resurrected and sitting on thrones and judging after having been beheaded due to not taking the mark of the beast. Since the beast is the RCC / papacy (in my view), and it didn't start until between the 4th and 6th centuries. Let me say further that if it is true that this 1000 years began at Christ's resurrection, it seems clear to me from the state of the world, that we are now in the season in which Satan has been release again to deceive. I am currently leaning towards premillennial view, based upon a plain reading of the text. Another reason is as follows: From the historical view timeline, we are between the 6th and 7th bowls in terms of fulfillment and the Earth has been around for almost 6000 years. This would put the 1000 literal years as the sabbath millennium. Some put the 6000th year at around 2055 a.d.

I hope youtube is giving you a boatload of support. There has been an ad every 3 minutes!

Thank you. This teaching really makes me think and need to study!

Joel, Thank you for this thoughtful study! Can you point me to a transcript as I see youtube did not provide.

I have personally began as a Premill/Dispensationist, moved to Amill and was happy (more or less) up until literally 4 days ago where my understanding of PostMill was corrected. I find so much hope in PostMill eschatology, which has also spilled over into my sanctification. So I'm thankful to God through watching the conversation with Jeff Durbin you had which explained so much, I listened to it twice over. I only have one question, can you help me understand the difference between Postmill and the dominion theology (7 mountain theory) ? Because as I am new this is the only thing that I cannot articulate the difference between the two. SDG

Thank you for the clarity in this teaching! I'm halfway through the video, my 1 question so far is: what about demonic activity today and across the past 2000 years, including in the book of Acts? How are we to understand how that fits in to the picture? Just noting this down while I remember it, though you may be about to address it in the 2nd half of the video.

Thank you! This was so helpful to me.

Satan isnt bound just yet.

Luke 17:20-30.. And John 18:36 .. Destroys your false teachings

this is well thought out. very articulate.

Brother Joel, G, P, n Lv in The HOLY 👑 KING. i have noticed a major lack of teaching on Judgement Day for Saints and Rewards for deeds done in the Body, by GOD'S Grace, In CHRIST. Will Y-o-u please address this topic (of course from Our [GOD'S Revealed Postmil like] Perspective)-?!‽!?

T "The end" could also refer to a period of time that includes his thousand year reign and his final triumph over the demonic powers in the events in Revelation 19-22. "In the beginning" God did many things. Also, we have been in "the last days" for over 2000 years. They began when the church was founded.

So let me ask you this. If Satan is bound, then where is he now and what is he doing? Also, if we are living in the post millennial times, why isn't there total peace and justice reigning? That's another one of my hang-ups. In the Bible, when Christ does reign, there's true peace. I just think there's no way possible that this current reality is the millennial reign of Christ described in scripture. Update: for many years I've struggled with the postmill eschatology viewpoint as many of my friends are and much of the media I consume comes from folks in the postmill camp. I wanted to offer this update. This glorious news that as of July 6th 2022, I'm now postmill! The statement above is what I struggled with most before surrendering to the glorious truth of the postmill hope. I've texted Joel about the news and he rejoices with me. So brothers and sisters, rejoice with me! To King Jesus 🍻!

With regard to Satan being bound already, could Jude 6 be inferring that as well? “And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day.”

Thank you

Do you have the same view as Doug Wison, new heavens and new earth has already come, if so what do we have to look forward to, and when does Rev 19 and 20 occur

Im trying to understand what is being said but I don't even know where to begin. So many words I need definitions of how Joel uses them. What is all of the freedom? I didn't know freedom was the sort of thing that could have an amount assigned to it.

And ol' Rejecting Christ (R.C) Sproul (Platonist) was as wrong as he could be with that straw man. Molecules don't have a will. God doesn't get His way and that's on a daily basis, but He's big enough to handle it.

Great teaching Joel.

In March of 2020 I was laid off due to the lockdown so I decided to redeem the time by studying eschatology. By the end of my 12 week layoff I was Postmillennial, I've been sorting out the Historicist vs orthodox Preterist debate since. Any suggestions on what to read? I have David Chilton's work, Mattison, E B Elliott's volumes in pdf, Wilson's short but helpful commentary on Revelation, I've been using Barnes commentaries on Daniel and Revelation for small group Bible study at church, a new title The Lost Eschatology on Historicism. What am I missing? Watching your video now. Thanks.

What more could a Christ on a throne in Jerusalem do than He’s doing now by the Holy Spirit and the preaching of the word?

Joel, have you listened to Philip Keyser Revelation sermons?

Excellent Exegesis pastor

Is this on Apple or Google podcast?

The Pharisees and Sadducees were brilliant & holy intellects but generally missed their proper scriptural interpretation (Messiah) at the time it was needed... Do we not think that we, the present-day holy church leaders, with our intellectual egos will not also miss the same in our time of need?

To steal a quote from Jeff Durbin, "Now that you know, let's get to work.".

But if tribulation already happened , where is the mark of the beast? When did this happened ? How is that second coming of Christ happened before the gospel was preached in all nations as we are seeing today with the internet ? Have we really had 1000 years of peace ? With all these wars? I am open to the post mail but these things just don’t make sense to me

Thanks, Mr. Joel. I started a very similar journey about 2 years ago and am loving the ride. Jordan Peterson got me thinking about what love really is. Not just being "sweet," but even the hard parts. Thankfully, Christ had made his claim on me and I knew it was much deeper than just some jungian philosphy. Then I became interested in the concept of medieval chivalry and a time where Christ and scripture was taken so seriously that it shaped more than just a persons private actions. That lead me to start reading and watching what sounds like the same people you read, watch, and talk to, as well as yourself of course. It's great to be thinking through something for days and then see you've made a video of it. Even St George and the dragon. I see it's the image for your conference. I have made a "tract" using that same image for the theological story it can tell. Please keep going.

Heresy heresy heresy

It's interesting that so many people use the sigh on Jonah to be referring to Jesus death, burial and resurrection, when the sign of Jonah to Nineveh was "Repent or your city will be destroyed". Jesus preached repentance for 3 days and 3 nights (check the gospels, Luke 19:41-21:37, compare with others for a timeline) in the heart of the land (Jerusalem) prior to His capture, and Jesus's generation did not repent. Therefore, Jerusalem would be destroyed (40 years later instead of 40 days). Jonah went to preach repentance to the heart of the land of Assyria, the great city Nineveh, which was a 3 day journey. Jonah 3 3 Now the word of the Lord came to Jonah the second time, saying, 2 “Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and preach to it the message that I tell you.” 3 So Jonah arose and went to Nineveh, according to the word of the Lord. Now Nineveh was an exceedingly great city, [a]a three-day journey in extent. 4 And Jonah began to enter the city on the first day’s walk. Then he cried out and said, “Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown!” So many people try to force Christ resurrection as a "sign" to the wicked a adulterous generation when it's not necessary. The sign of Jonah that Jesus said His adulterous generation would see was the destruction of their city because they did not repent; this has nothing to do with His resurrection. This actually is a positive for postmillennialism because the great signs and wonders that occurred at AD70 would have been a visual sign to THAT generation. We know Jesus died on Friday night and rose Sunday morning, that's 36 hours. People try to do all kinds of mental gymnastics with time reckoning to try and fit Jonah with Jesus resurrection because they have been told all their lives that's what the sign is about. People get hung up on "the heart of the earth/land"; they think this means a burial grave in the dirt, THAT, is your assumption. We have a modern term or phrase that is not used in modern speech, "heartland"; it just means the central place of any country, usually the greatest and most well known city. Just as Jonah preached repentance for three days and three nights to Nineveh, the heart of the land of Assyria, so too did Jesus preach repentance for three days and three nights to Jerusalem, the heart of the land of Israel. Nineveh will judge Jesus's generation because they repented at the preaching of Jonah, but an even greater than Jonah came and they did not repent. Luke 11:29-32 29 And while the crowds were thickly gathered together, He began to say, “This is an evil generation. It seeks a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of Jonah [a]the prophet. 30 For as Jonah became a sign to the Ninevites, so also the Son of Man will be to this generation. 31 The queen of the South will rise up in the judgment with the men of this generation and condemn them, for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and indeed a greater than Solomon is here. 32 The men of Nineveh will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, for they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and indeed a greater than Jonah is here. Luke 19:41-47 41 Now as He drew near, He saw the city and wept over it, 42 saying, “If you had known, even you, especially in this your day, the things that make for your peace! But now they are hidden from your eyes. 43 For days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment around you, surround you and close you in on every side, 44 and level you, and your children within you, to the ground; and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not know the time of your visitation.” 45 Then He went into the temple and began to drive out those who [h]bought and sold in it, 46 saying to them, “It is written, ‘My house [i]is a house of prayer,’ but you have made it a ‘den of thieves.’ ” 47 And He was teaching daily in the temple. But the chief priests, the scribes, and the leaders of the people sought to destroy Him, 48 and were unable to do anything; for all the people were very attentive to hear Him. But as always, people are so convinced that the sign of Jonah is Jesus's death, burial, and resurrection, AND IT CANNOT BE AYTHING ELSE BECAUSE I MUST PROVE JESUS'S RESURRECTION, they will ignore the text for the sake of their belief. Meanwhile skeptics (me once upon a time), Judaism, and Muslims alike mock Christians with the sign of Jonah because, like I just pointed out, they too know how to read and know that Jesus was not buried for 3 days and 3 nights. Jonah did not physically die nor was he physically resurrected; stop reading this onto the text. Stop with this infatuation. The "proof" that Jesus has resurrected and sitting at the right hand of God is not an empty tomb; it's the destruction of Jerusalem that He said would happen and the signs of His coming judgement of Jerusalem. The empty tomb is just icing on top of the cake. His coming to destroy Jerusalem that occurred 40 years later proves Jesus's empty tomb because clearly He is at the right hand of God JUST AS HE SAID HE WOULD BE. Matthew 26:64 NKJV Jesus said to him, “It is as you said. Nevertheless, I say to you, hereafter you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.” Imagine a world if Christians actually stopped forcing the sign of Jonah with His resurrection and used it properly.

Joel, this topic deserves a redo. I say this because it seems that, on a partial-preterist view of Revelation, the activities of Satan and his followers since the time of the death and Resurrection of Christ are vastly different than prior to that time. Some would say that Satan is bound in chains until the time of the end. This would have HUGE implications on our understanding of principalities and powers coming against Christians and the Church.

The glaring problem with all of this is that Scripture unequivocally refutes the idea that the devil is currently bound. Look at 1 Peter 5:8-9: "Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. But resist him, firm in your faith." That phrase "prowls around" is the Greek verb peripateó, meaning to walk about, conduct your life, to walk at large, going in a complete circuit. The verb is a present active indicative, showing that the action happens in the present time. Look also at the verb "seeking" in Peter's verse above. It too is a present active verb meaning that the devil is currently doing it. He is free to prowl around seeking his next victim. Prisoners cannot do this. If Satan is currently bound, Peter's charge to "resist him, firm in your faith" is baseless. James tells us, "Submit therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you" (Ja 4:7). The verb "resist" is an aorist imperative active, a command that is expected to be followed as an ongoing process. In other words, resist the devil, and keep resisting the devil and he will flee from you. But why would James give this command if the devil is already bound? Paul warns in Ephesians 4:27, "Do not give the devil an opportunity." How can the devil find opportunities if he's bound? Paul says to "Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil" (Eph 6:11). Why put on the armor of God if the devil is bound? None of the armor makes sense if Satan is currently in chains. And another verse showing that Satan is still loose in this world is 1 John 4:4. "You are from God, little children, and have overcome them; because greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world." (See also Acts 26:18; 1Co 5:5, 7:5; 2Co 2:11, 4:4, 11:14, 12:7; Eph 6:10-18; 2Th 2:9, 3:3; 1Ti 1:20, 5:15.) One can conclude through these verses and many more that Satan is not bound in respect to Revelation 20:1-3. Satan is seen to tempt, deceive, blind, buffet, hinder, work signs and lying wonders, to have children (i.e., unbelievers), to walk about seeking whom he may devour. Is this a picture of Satan bound? The obvious answer is that Satan is not bound in chains in any way, shape, or form. Moreover, if it can be shown that Satan is not currently bound, obviously there is no ground for the postmillennial position that we are currently in the millennial kingdom of God.

If 1 Cor 15:23-24 lists 3 events delineated by the word "then" in the format "A then B then C," and if A and B are separated by at least 40 years (in the case of full preterists), why must C "immediately" follow B? In other words, if the first then represents a substantial amount of time passing (40-2000+ years) why can the 2nd then not also?

Ok. OK

" my kingdom is not of this world " " when i return will there be any faith " ? in the Greek its clear Christ is saying there will be little with faith when returning..........

The only reason I went to a Post is because the bible talks about Christ’s Second Coming, but a Pre- Trib would mean that Christ comes 3 times, as in once ‘…to descent from Heaven with a shout ….and the dead in Christ rise first…” and then Christ coming to set up His M Kingdom, which makes a 3rd time, so the Rapture will happen AFTER the Trib, which means now that we know the church is on earth, we’re all F……..ound out that earlier on 😉

I'm sorry, but you don't understand the "Book Of Job" if you think "Satan" in Job is the same as THE "Devil". These two are not always the same.

Book of Job? So God hasn't always been on his throne?

Christ continues to reign even after the second coming. The sting of death is sin and the power of sin is the law and Christ came to fulfill the law so the sting of death has been done away

I am here as I am rethinking, just today, and want more as it is resonating thru me, that postmil is for sure, I have been so indoctrinated for generations.

Fine! Fine, you're correct! Lol this is so crazy, I feel like I've seen a new world

If you are a Calvinist and you pray for someone’s salvation are you not doing the same thing in asking God to break his decreed will? The destiny of each person has already been determined by a sovereign God.

If my local beachhead taught instead of preached