A PURPOSE FOR NEW LONDON | Faith vs Order - Frostpunk Rap Battle! 

Are you a devout believer or an iron fist pariah? Check out Dan Bull's alternate ending! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ADwUlpdR_PA.html This is just the first of our planned collabs! ;) LYRICS: [VERSE 1] Gather brothers, gather sisters, soothe your blisters by the fire Though our bones may ache and groan we know our spirits never tire The temperature’s low but our purpose is much higher What’s behind us mustn’t blind us to divineness that transpires Now her spires have expired, well she rests in each of you London’s not a place - it wasn’t left beneath our boots And by grace we have been blessed with that most elegant of truth You stand here not abandoned but as testament and proof For a city is its people and it’s people are it’s heart Stood together ‘gainst the weather, ‘gainst the coming of the dark Ne’er a lantern has been lit with oh so righteous a spark When providence claimed continents but provided us an ark [VERSE 2] We moved north as awful forceful storms removed borders Forced to leave the warmth behind, the daylight hours grew shorter Unable to read at night, the people might dispute lawbooks Ushering the death of Joy, Division made a New Order Brute force and discipline ensures all the citizens are chipping in sufficiently under threat of imprisonment Liberty’s prohibited, retired It’s mandatory compliance now To keep the fire alight we need to stamp any defiance out We can ill afford the price of human rights nor pay the cost of anger So we stifle scrutinising eyes astray with propaganda The only way that we can pull through, is under cruel rule If a single person falls out of line, we all do [CHORUS] Morning gathering or evening prayer We still battle for a season fair We still huddle in the freezing air For a summer that’s not even there If the sun won’t rise on our horizon We’ll march on to spite the skies and Find that wheel of progress so well worn Brought us no shelter from the storm [VERSE 3] I have heard there are those who would defy us Who’d choose oppression o’er ascension for the pious Dissidents without repent are bent on questioning the dias Twisted iron fist pariahs and their heretic messiah Winter blizzards to infinity so sing the hymns and litanies Hand in and skin the sinners if you wish to skim divinity Each shiver will deliver us deliverance in time Burn the innocents for penitence if we preempt the crime I’m protector of the truth - great erector of the new faith Defectors and objectors can expect a second doomsday Unquestioning our destiny, relentless we pursue fate Alone I have been chosen to be spoken through by true grace Frozen omens say we should invoke another crusade [VERSE 4] We rush to crush dissent from those who claim we must repent how could a benevolent God subject us to such events?! Against the elements, precious seconds each of us has spent completing Public Penance could have been invested putting up the tents Pragmatism’s borne of pessimism, not a full blown pestilence, infecting desperate residents with false hope Now they’ve sworn oaths, and pledged commitment to a cult, no mercy will be shown or quarter given, fetch the coiled rope And hang them by the necks until it’s taut, the lesson learned is certain: No forgiveness for giving attention to those worthless sermons No measure of faith will keep you warm or sate your appetite So pray heed the warning or we may just have to tax your life [CHORUS] Morning gathering or evening prayer We still battle for a season fair We still huddle in the freezing air For a summer that’s not even there If the sun won’t rise on our horizon We’ll march on to spite the skies and Find that wheel of progress so well worn Brought us no shelter from the storm [VERSE 5] Now the book of laws has closed and it’s pages shine a light As the people fill the shrines in line with my divine right This battlement of sacraments, as chattel to our rite The sacrilegious and recalcitrant shall vow or face the smite Non believers shan’t deceive us, we shall greet their cheek with grievance In this ceaseless season we redeem the meek with bleak obedience Seeking each unheeding heathen, see them bleed or plead allegiance Blessed be relief from freedom; lest ye feel the need for treason since the precept was decreed, its certainty was predetermined mere herds of sheep are people, thus they need to be subservient ‘Neath so turbulent a firmament the worst of men survive Pray their mercy may preserve us once we touch the other side

"If the Sun will not rise on our horizon, we will march on to spite the skies!" Is an amazing motto.

“Hand in and skin the sinners if you wish to skim divinity” That was...sudden.

What I love is how the rap thematically progresses down the tech tree for Faith. If you don't go too far down Faith, it stays a benign and more hopeful option, much like the first verse. But each additional step you take down that line makes it darker and more insidious...until Order seems better because at least it's honest.

I like how faith has better flow because faith is seen as a nice and smooth peacefulness but order is a little more jagged and aggressive with delivery. Amazing

>Faith vs Order The Imperium of Mankind: Why not both?

Funny how both start as selfless causes, but slowly become focused on a single individual.

Interesting how the Faith seems to start good and the Order evil, but as the song progresses, the Order explains their reasoning, while the Faith begins to show its dark side.

British people when it snows slightly

*Dan Bull* : So how many references do you want in the song ? *Stupendium* : *Yes*

My favorite part of this song is probably how, despite the major differences between each version and each side denouncing the other, the final lyrics, while still reflecting each group, are somewhat similar, as if to reflect that the two are similar in their restrictions or oppressions.

Does anyone else notice the difference between each sides of the chorus? The first half sounds like a gospel hymn, while the second is more static and evenly spaced like a war drum or a March.

I never realized it until now, but Stupendium does a really good "preachy" voice. it works especially well here like wow. I would love to hear more preachy rap from you dude! XD

"If that Sun won't rise on our Horizon, we'll march on to spite the Skies." That is an amazing line. Like, even if things don't improve, you just say "Fuck you!" to the world and keep going, keep on surviving. I might be interpreting too much into one line, but that is what I read out of it.

"if the sun won't rise on our horizon we'll march on to spite the skies". I can't explain how much I love that line

I understand that learning Shakespeare can be difficult to learn. I too have difficulty understanding his poetry. But perhaps if poetry, such as this where to be presented to modern students in this format, then perhaps they, including me, could grasp the concepts of complex poetry, and have a better understanding. For at his time there was a type of English language that doesn't truly adhere to English of modern times. But this rap is construed in a way that presents sophisticated poetry structures , but at the same time conveys complex concepts that are understood by modern audiences.

This has to be the best chorus I've ever heard in a song. "We'll march on to spite the skies and that wheel of progress so well worn" Wonderful line of writing and it so encapsulates Frostpunk

I wouldn’t have discovered this absolute gem of a game if it weren’t for your amazing songs, so thank you!

With that cadence and delivery, I'd love to see Stupes do something, anything with Warhammer 40K.

This rap really displays the power of transcendent language. Both raps are excellent, but there is this emotional core to Stupendium's that really captures the feeling of a sermon. "When providence claimed continents, but provided us a Ark" What a powerful narrative to rally behind. big props.

"if that sun wont rise on the horizon, we'll march on to spite the skies" is a good representation of humanity's determination to survive through disparity, and a good summary of Frostpunk's story. well written, gentlemen.

*sees rap battle* *TRIGGERED*

This was absolutely fantastic!! holy moly that was so powerful!! both you and Dan bull did a fantastic job, and that chorus OH MY LAWD that chorus was the icing on this frozen cake. Well done!! :D

1:57 The Stupendium: *takes out dictionary and starts rapping from it*

I acknowledge that this is super nerdy... But I love the vocabulary.

I love how you made references to the choruses from both of your other frostpunk songs

my only question is are their hearts cold? ................or are they just cold hearted?

"Hand in and skin the sinners" Thats... Chilling.

"If that sun won't rise on the horizon we'll march on to spite the skies" is such a powerful line.

Who won the prophet of mustaches or a dictator of bulls

"neath so turbulent a firmament the worst of men survive, pray their mercy may preserve us once we touch the other side" What a powerful line.

I'd be a devout follower of someone with such linguistic mastery and symphony.

Completed a faith playthrough just the other day, but I stopped at Public Penance. Let the sinners repent and be welcomed once again, for dogma will not serve when simple faith and community will not an without those foundations, any spire we build is sure to crumble. Allow me to add my own verse? As your captain, I'm not a man for praying - there's too much to be decided, Food and shelter balanced, weighing, scripture risks making me misguided. But I recognise the need to believe in some higher purpose, A sacred creed so fear and hate will not yet usurp us. And while I may not kiss the cross, nor thumb the pages of the bible, I place my faith in each of you, humans at their heart are tribal. We stand together in the cold, each hand in hand and hearts uplifted, For with love for brothers, sisters all, through the snow see - the sunlight glinted.

'now her spires have expired' i like how that sounds to my ears

This rap just sent chills through my body, weird for such a hot tune

The "I've heard there are those who would defy us" part had me shaking, incredible delivery

"If that sun won't rise on our horizon we'll march on to spite the skies." Now that's a hell of a line

You have no idea the level of lyricism you just performed

Shelter from the storm was one of the first raps that introduced me to the channel, and I've since been filled with anticipation and excitement whenever I see a new video in the feed. Needless to say, I've yet to dislike a rap here, but the frostpunk raps seems to hit me especially hard. Loved the hints that poked towards the first one, great work all around! Looking forward to more.

I love the symbolism in this, especially the part with the propaganda posters. And how both sides of the argument become the same towards the end. A good example of how in any situation there will always be those who will seek to gain power by any means.

This song still makes me wish there was a scenario in the game where you had to manage order vs faith factions who slowly went more & more off the deep end until you either had to join one to crush the other or face an open civil war in the streets

I like that when you boil down both sides of the rap, it literally is the same thing, just with a different paintjob. Im not trying to be all r/enlightened centrism here, but its rather clever. In an extreme survival Situation like that of Frostpunk, a rigid set of rules will often be what comes of it, question is only from which you derive your right to rule. Is it by Divine right, some benevolent being from beyond whom you assure us are looking down and watching out for us, in return for our obedience? Or Is it from our certain knowledge that Survival is paramount, and that if we stray from the road of progress and work, that we endanger each and all of our fellow man. No man has the right to take the life of another, so why should your laziness/freedom condemn the rest of us? Swear your Loyalty to the Captain! It is rather Chilling. Badum tish.

Ahhh, memories. This was the first song I heard from Stupendium, thanks to Dan Bull. It's amazing how quickly they became one of my favourite musical artists. Not RU-vid musical artists, but all time favourite musical artists. Their talent, creativity and humour are things I could praise them for all damn day long and easily stands shoulder to shoulder with my other favourites, like Miracle Of Sound, Dan Bull and JT Music. OK, I'm done kissing their arse for now.

"the worst of men survive; pray their mercy may preserve us once we touch the other side" I know the tone is way different but honestly this reminds me of "I prayed for a car but I know god doesn't work that way, so I stole a car instead and prayed for forgiveness"

Dan Bull and The stupendium... these two just made me an addict to their songs all over again. Must admit though, The Stupendium has quite the theatrical voice with a whole range of emotion and impression.

"if that sun wont rise on our horizon we'll march on to spite the skies" i fucking love that line

''Each shiver will deliver us deliverance in time'' remind me, where've you heard that before?

2:16 I love how the red light catches his face when he looks down and how it's timed with his more zealous orders

To be honest my man! This is my favourite song so far because it’s a beautiful balance between musical and rap but also with a hint of real world problems. Both sides right in certain ways but no side overpowers the other. And the chorus is an amazing summary of the game. A true masterwork

Stupendium: *makes this video* Me: *high pitched fan girl screaming*

That ending gives me chills. After such fervent preaching, certain both in faith and in the action taken, just to hear all that remorse in that final line. It just puts it a cut above so many other songs.

I love how both sides seem to fully believe what they preach but at the same time when listening you find yourself questioning if they do really believe in their own sides or acting in self interest? And that's my favourite thing about it

Majesty. Grace. Stunning. Chilling. All words that could describe this masterpiece. Dan as always was an incredible addition. Stupes as always had the voice that carries over any winds that could drown him out. Amazing work as always, you spiffing Brits you!

I see that "Shelter from the Storm" reference. And I appreciate it. Keep going you lyrical genius!

"If that sun won't rise on our horizon, we'll march on to spite the skies" is such a raw line, I love it.

I love how at the end Stupes so easily switches from "SKIN THE SINNERS!" to " Hey guys! :D"

I do not always post comments, but when i do, its because something amazed me

That last line from Faith... I think the priest realized what kind of monster he'd let loose, but it was too late to stop.

3:22 the window changes to reflect the executed priest

I laughed when the camera switched over to the people and there is Stupendium with goggles.

I’m a devout and faithful follower of the Stupendium order long may he reign!!!

The opening chorus lines are just perfect! Ultimately, the people don't care what path they take, as long as they get food, safety and shelter.

I love how the last two lines have the same syllables and flow as the last two lines in Shelter From The Storm

Stupendium : *posts a new video* My mouse: I a m s p e e d

The chorus was amazing. It gave me the urge to see if church is actually like that. Sadly though, I am pretty sure I would burst into flame if I walked into one. Guess I will have to make due by listening to this over and over again.

"no measure of faith will keep you warm or sate your appetite" this is basically why i chose order in frostpunk.

Truth be told, the first time i didnt get everyone killed immediately, i sided with Order, since i enjoyed the idea of being the dictator of a merciless regime. This video inspired me to come back to Frostpunk and go with the New Faith this time.

I haven’t even seen this game or whatever, but I love the song ;-;

A sequel to Shelter From the Storm, one of your best raps of all time?! Screw the cold, this is _hot!_

The fact that the sound changes in the lyrics of ``Morning Gathering or Evening Prayer.We still battle for the season fair.We still huddle in the freezing air.For a summer that's not even there. `` The faith is voice is louder and the order voice lowers and vice versa of ``If that sun won't rise on our horizon,We will March on spite the skies and find the wheel of progress so well worn brought us no shelter from the storm>``

2:45 Order guy complains public penance is wasted time, but then admits that he reached the Londoners event and is still building tents and not bunkhouses.

Alternate Ending Comparisons: Faith: Now the book of laws have closed And it's pages shine a light As the people fill the shrines In line with my divine right This battlement of sacraments As chattel to our rite The sacrilegious and recalcitrant Shall vow or face the smite Non believers shan't deceive us We shall greet their cheek With grievance In this ceaseless season We redeem the meek with bleak obedience Seeking each unheeding heathen See them bleed or plead allegiance Blessed be relief from freedom Lest ye feel the need for treason Since the precept was decreed Its certainty was predetermined Mere herds of sheep are people Thus they need to be subservient 'Neath so turbulent a firmament The worst of men survive Pray their mercy may preserve us Once we touch the other side Order: Now the book of laws have closed You've no hope to try and fight As the people fall in line And march in time with iron might Non believers shan't deceive us We shall greet their cheek With grievance In this ceaseless season We redeem the meek with bleak obedience Seeking each unheeding heathen See them bleed or plead allegiance Blessed be relief from freedom Lest you feel the need for treason Since the precept was decreed It's certainty was predetermined Mere vermin are the people Thus they need to be subservient They deserve paternal leadership Eternally prescriptive Turn a leaf in the journal Weep as you read the scriptures The book of laws is closed It's frozen shut And couldn't thaw But should the storm subside It might be time to write a couple more

HOLY [Nice words]! That was an astonishing experience. I think I have made it clear from previous comments how much I enjoy Stupendium songs, but House always wins, Shelter from the Storm, Art of Darkness and all the songs like them have had a special place for me, often having amazing rhymes, and this was no exception! The brilliant Believer side had more biblical words, whilst the fisters were more brutal in their approach. Not only was each side conveyed in a way that I could understand it without having played the game, the lyrics alone told me so much about the characters. Hell of a song, going on my playlist as soon as it is out

2:27 Ohhh, he took off his hood. Now he's getting serious.

its 20 degrees today England: This is fine USA:

Brr. I feel cold, probably just the wind.

This is amazing Greg holy crap, I love the little references to “Shelter From The Storm”! The visuals are really well done too, you’ve never failed to amaze me with them of course. You both did so well, great job!

What I like besides the rap is the slow changing of the backgrounds for both Faith and Order. You can see their slow and gradual descent into madness for their beliefs as the video progresses

Your costume department, in addition to everything else of course, is outstanding!

I feel like the Order part of the chorus is just a small adjustment from being about Snowpiercer. "We'll drive on to spite the skies and that wheel of progress so well worn carries us through the storm"

“If that sun won’t rise on out horizon we’ll march on to spite the skies” is possibly the most badass lyric I’ve ever heard

You guys played your roles perfectly as specially Stupendium as the Messaih

This gave me straight chills

I stg the line “if the sun won’t rise on the horizon we’ll ark on to spite the skies” is fantastic

This game is just the average winter in Finland

This is a fucking masterpiece, not even joking, it truly is, you two are just doing some REAL work, this one really got to my heart.

First verse I already knew this would be fire. Such power and complexity in the voice, I love it.

Not a minute of this 5 was wasted in the least bit to be honest. Such skill, gosh.

...As much as this is a battle, the chorus seems to argue that both sides are actually the same. "Morning gathering or evening prayer/we still battle for a season fair/we still huddle in the freezing air/for a summer that's not even there./If the sun won't rise on our horizon/we'll march on to spite the skies/and find that wheel of progress so well worn/brought us no shelter from the storm." They're doing basically the same thing for different causes and fighting with each other for no reason. It's not bringing either group shelter or warmth, and this division is just bringing their ends closer.

I love what you two did with your respective thumbnails. The Preacher looks reassuring in HIS video, but on The Dictator's thumbnail, he seems more menacing, whereas the The Dictator just looks cruel in both thumbnails, even his own. It reflects how people see the leaders depending on what side they're on.

You won this one Stupes! But honesty you both won in the end 🥰

Absolutely mindblowing, the "faith" verses, combined with the track was just sublime! And your choice of "accent" or pronounciation really made it all shine!

When I am down and in need of uplifting, I listen the the Faith side of this song. When I am in need of motivation to work despite the pain, and grief; I listen to the Order side. But no matter which end of the spectrum I fall on, I always listen to the chorus with a sense of warmth in my heart. As if I was standing among the faithful, singing along in the freezing cold.

This song legit made me buy frostpunk you dont have to believe me but its true after i watched this i was interested and started watching some gameplay of frostpunk and decided to buy it i have been playing it now for about 5 months

Your songs provide me with Shelter from the Storm, and truly, It's A Joy to be able to hear them. When my friend said to check you out, I wondered, 'Why Did I Say Okie Doki?,' but the Aftermath was quite amazing, and I can say that I will Find the Keys to your greatness, and, as a Matter of Facts, I must say you are the best musician/rapper/everything, and every new song leaves me calling, 'DOCTOR! DOCTOR! I've gone mad with amazement!' So thank you.

1:31 for the chorus

Somehow I remembered line from sci-fi story: Humanity was lost, only humans remains. Faith and Order. Hope and cold reason. Heart and mind. I belive both factions could lost in the end if they managed to eradicate the other. People need hope to fight for better day, but also need to work for it to make it happen. Without hope we would be just living corpses, survivng but nor really living, on the other hand without determination to take fate into our own hands such hopes would remain only as distant dreams. So I call it a draw :)

I've always been a PURGE THE HERETICS kind of guy myself

Just left a comment on the other video but I'll say it again: this looks and sounds amazing. Also, there beeing two different perspectives of the same events is a really cool thing to do

Beautiful lyricism, singing, and visuals as always. I wasn't expecting another look at Frostpunk, but the sight of the thumbnail was a pleasant surpise. This game is thematically fascinating, and these dystopian settings always seem to invite the most powerful and gripping performances from you. Always happy to see another Stupendium upload, and this is an immediate top 10, especially given the excellent back and forth with Dan. 10/10, gave me chills