A puzzle game where you decipher languages 

yeah, and every time you think... oh shit, i have to remember that password/sequence/etc., the protagonist takes out his book and doodles exactly that down :D

What they say ⬆️

What they say "What they say ⬆" about ⬆

Same, it's a welcome one

I find it interesting because there are so many games I won't give the time of day to precisely because they're too short-when I buy a game I'm looking for a potential member of the Thousand Hour Club (a club that, on my Steam account, includes just five games-American Truck Simulator, Fallout: New Vegas, Fallout 4, NBA 2K12, and Super Mega Baseball 3.) Whether it's a game you can play a round of in an hour and those hours add up over endless weeknights of after-work play or whether it's a game that lends itself well to dozens of different kind of challenge run across 50-hour sessions (not just Bethesda RPGs; if I cut the hours-played cutoff from 1,000 to 500, then Skyrim, Rise of Nations, My Time at Sandrock, and Stardew Valley join the list, and those latter two are a different sort of "50 hours 10 different ways" experience), those are my gaming diet. Of course, the philosophy of "5 hours total gameplay but they're 5 great hours" vs "1000 hours of comfortable and familiar spread out over years" (if I had Steam-like data for games I bought before 2009, then games like Rome: Total War, Oblivion, Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri, The Sims 2, and the SNES port of SimCity would all make the list of 1,000-hour-plus games) is a whole different line of argument and a story for another day.

Same! I always search this kind of stuff, but well - I‘m bad at finding it xD

SPOILER WARNING (click read more if you wanna see it) Which language? This sounds cool. Also, IDK if I'm being forgetful, but sometimes there are instances where one word means the same thing, but they call it different things. For example, the "alchemist" word is called "scientist" in the warrior level and "brother" in the bard level. Same with "devotee" and "impure." Maybe it was something like that.

Spoiler: My first guess it that it's the devotee word for the Warrior's fortress, but that would mean a devotee actually got past the gate.

@@triattack8068 They call the devotees Impures though.

Well, depending on the context that may not matter, as this is about a devotee word

I wonder if that was on purpose or just something that was cut and forgotten by the devs

I highly recommend the channel FirstFive

I would love to see the concept with existing languages.

@@the11382 Yeah, that would be so cool, and also give the developers more time to focus on other aspects like puzzles, music, graphics etc.

​@@MultiArtStyleTWTI completely disagree. Real languages are much more complicated than any from the game. The languages here are basically optimised to be useful for a game.

I mean, it's not THAT short. This took me longer to complete than Obra Dinn.

Agreed - personally I think the explanation of the door/valves puzzle was fine, given that's literally the first puzzle of the game, but highlighting some of the later concepts (which I certainly hadn't identified in the course of the demo) feels like a spoiler I'd have rather not had.

yeah, I had to stop watching because of all the spoilers

I second this! Showing a little demo is fine. But after the door puzzle I stopped watching anyways, as I already decided to get the game and wanted to avoid spoilers. So maybe using less spoilers in general (if possible) could generate more watch time, too?

nah fck off thats alotta effort for mark-kun

RU-vid might not be the website for you.

If you like Zelda and Souls like games I highly highly recommend Tunic as mentioned in the video, most of the instructions the game gives you are in a different language with only a few words in English but as you go on you get hints about translating it and it's such a dopamine rush to get it all figured out and be able to read all the instructions when you're done, I thoroughly recommend giving it a go!! (Also if the combat is too difficult and you just want a more puzzle based experience, you can tune the difficulty in the settings 👌)

@@Imperial_Squid Thank you for the rec! I will definitely check it out :)

oooo im really into these language puzzle games, any info on the game youre working on? or is it entirely a WIP

It won't let me post a reply for some reason, but I'm still in the early stages of working on an archeological visual novel-style game where you have to decode writings from ancient artefacts :) hoping to have a demo on itchio later in the year!

really cool! ill have to keep an eye on itchio then haha @@GingerBreadSed

A book club for small or medium sized indie games sounds amazing

Good luck playing it. Lucky people

This man has great taste of games. I played Return of the ovra dinn due to his video and damn that game is pure genius.

Noita is a metroidbrainia then lmao

My favorite type of game, but probably the hardest to get right. Outer Wilds, Paquette, Can of Wormholes, Tunic, they're just so phenomenal when done right

@@TurtleTracksStudio I adored Outer Wilds, that’s a true Metroidbrainia! Also loved tunic. Will have to check out the other ones you mentioned!

@primaneutrina I was considering sharing this video with you, with the caveat that it shows a few things you haven't already seen, but here you are already in the comments! 😅

@@jlmonolith I’ve been sent it a few times already 😅

Was going to reference that same game.

I saw the title and immediately thought it was going to be Heaven's Vault

I love Heaven's Vault! Definitely will check this game as well!

Heaven's Vault sounded so good, but in actuality I hated it

@@davidstaffell I don't blame people who don't enjoy Heaven's Vault -- it was obviously developed with a very particular kind of nerd in mind, and if you don't fit that mold then you'll likely hate it. Doesn't help that the MC is deliberately written to be unlikable, so a lot of people will bounce off her too. I loved the game to death, though... I might go replay it, actually.

That wouldn't be all that fun for people who know the language though, if we're not talking about almost extinct languages. In those cases making a game about such a language might peak the interest of people and perhaps even help preserve it for future generations. But overall making up a unique language brings everyone on the same level.

@@NuiYabuko why would someone who knows the language want to use a language learning game for the language they already know? spybloom was saying that it would be interesting if this could be used to teach people new languages. It's not really a game anymore, but a tool to teach a skill that some don't know. So it doesn't really matter if a spanish version isn't fun for a spanish speaker, since the target is for a non spanish speaker who would like to speak spanish

I had the exact same thought

Somewhat, but the UI carries you a lot. I found myself memorising a couple handful of words in my time playing the game, which is obviously good... but not good enough if your intent is to actually absorb a real language. in the game, after you correctly guess words, you don't have to remember them anymore, as the game will give you the translation in the tooltip.

well, to begin with, this is only a script system, not a spoken language. it'd need a whole voice recording and rely on listening which this game doesn't

Nonono, you've got it all backwards. The written symbols were speaking to you as you "read" them. (Edit:Alternatively it's due to Exile that it looks that way)

It is if you have a lot of free time lol

I finished Chants of Senaar in 6/7 hours . Loved every seconds

Good luck with the thesis!

I'll have to give Heaven's Fault a try at some point, but Chants if Sennaar does a good job of rewarding you for noticing small details and showing how a culture's views affect their language. It certainly made me feel like an archaeologist at many points. WARNING: The following comment will contain unabashed spoilers for the game which make detract from your enjoyment of playing it for yourself. Any replies past this point are also likely to contain spoilers. You have been warned. Example A: The Devotees' Death One of the first glyphs you discover of the Devotee language is that of Death. It's meaning is rather handily shown by the church fresco you find late in the area, but you can logically deduce what it means a while before that. If you go to the cemetery before the church, you'll find a sign over it that shows the sign for death surrounded by a box. All other instances of boxed glyphs so far have been several road signs or over the door to a large building, allowing you to infer it means a location. As the glyph clearly refers to a cemetery, breaking it from "place of the dead" to "place" and "dead" is a very straightforward way to deduce what the glyph inside means. Further, the glyph for Man is also one of the first ones you discover as well as the second group you lock in (if memory serves). If you're paying attention, you may note that the glyph for Death is Man on its side, as if laying down. This helps clue you in towards the glyph's meaning from the very start if you notice it. I personally didn't notice it until later in my playthrough, but I still appreciate it. Example B: The Alchemists' Questions Or, rather, lack thereof. The Alchemists lack a symbol for question like the Bards before them had, although that isn't unusual. What is unusual is that they also don't ask a single question the entire time you're there, instead simply stating things as fact. Even things that should be questions, like an Alchemist you walk up to in the library simply stating "You are looking for a book." which isn't even correct. However, considering that their society is based around the scientific thought process, it then makes perfect sense that they don't ask questions. Instead, they make hypotheses. In essence, every statement they make is already a question and it's the responsibility of the recipient to confirm or refute it. A good example is the Alchemist stuck in the silver mine, who says "You will help me." when approached. By helping him, we have confirmed his hypothesis. If we chose not to help him, we would refute his hypothesis. If the Main Character actually spoke, the proper response to "You are looking for a book." would have been "I am looking for a formula.". We even see this happen when you translate between the Alchemists and the Bards. The Alchemist tells the Bard "We are brothers!". The Bard's response is to repeat back, word for word, "We are brothers!". Now, granted, that last bit could also be chalked up to simple excitement, but the point remains that a lot of thought went into this game's world.