It's likely mainly gen alpha kiddies full of brain rot harrassing the poor guy even though hes done nothing wrong. They should be thankful that he hasnt turned his back on the community all together and discontinue the game
Fun fact: in sandbox, Tarnished battlers's Summoned Tumored Battler are always your Tarnished level, regardless of the stage's Enemy Strength. That means that the tumored battlers will have 290 hp and 58 damage while the normal battler on battle begins will have 50 hp and 10 damage
Although probably terrible, I do have ideas on how to balance tumored/tarnished trowel. Tumored Trowel: Instead of having just either the spikes or the immunity, he gains both. To balance this, he now costs 200 cash and has a higher cooldown. For Tarnished, make the default speed equal to 1. Still slow but not as horrid. As I did with Tumored, add spikes to him. These spikes will deal less damage than the walls, but he'll now have spikes on his fists which deal good damage. When he dies, he will fall and deal massive area damage.
@@basket7135 shut up you dont even know how much effort we put into doing 3 star infernus and when we see this happen to him we feel like we got SCAMMED out of our time and effort.
(please tell me you are joking) he got faster from 5 to 6 speed you using him as an atacker or what for you to say that (also it inst even a second longer due to the old tumored battler having to wind up and deal with the end lag of his atack so the fire rate was closer to 2 before)
I love both the Tarnisheds. They look so cool, and I can't wait for the day I beat 3 Star Deathbringer and 3 Star Infernus (That will take pretty long) so I can use them both! ALLY BOSSES 4 EVER!!!
Honestly, in my opinion though tumored trowel looks cool and awesome, its pretty sad how he got a huge nerf, though the alt forms are pretty sick, tarnished trowel spawns a damn wall with over 35k at lvl 25 and its as big as the damn pathway, the alt forms are basically player bosses which was a pretty good idea from bucket.
I think they should give the spike mechanic to the tarnish sword battler when showcase video of it is here and also they should have kept the slam for tarnish trowel battler
The only buff for tarnished trowler needs is 5 Resistance for slightly more tank can continue to walk while attack is charging rather than just stand there and Decrease in range by 1 and increase of speed of 0.2 to stay in the front lines
Also his Firerate wasn’t really 1 due to all the wind up and end lag , if you stuck him side by side with regular battler their fire rates were actually pretty similar so it’s less of a nerf than you think.
the tumored or tarnished battlers really look more lore-wise as said in robotrobs soundtracks the description describe the game has heavy lore, this is worse(in like an uh oh type of worse like the patient got a parasitic brick inside them (uh oh things just got worse CODE RED)) than the upcoming zombie chapter
over all probably tarnish troweler could worth some stage without stun lock since his health probally high and being tank yet but i'am choose tarnish battler since he may not too tank witg tarnish troweler but he could summon when hit and speed probally worth his health [Don't use tarnish troweler with rail battler beacus they already dead]
I prefer the old versions tbh I don't like the idea of having a boss battler since I feel like the game will be balanced around that Old tarnished blonde was better
I have an idea.. JUST BRING THE OLD IDEA BACK! the spikes were amazing and tarnished trowel was a really op titan battler that was CHEAPER than titan battler. now tumored trowel sucks because he cant get buffed and trowel was never meant to even serve as a tank when he was first made. and tarnished trowel.. i agree with all the things you said and the COST is down right trash.
@@quackster3220 thats the point, they gave him omni immunity and made him stronger than deathbringer and doombringer to the point they have to made him slow at some point
also i dont like the tarnished reworks, they were unnecessary tbh, tarnished battler served as a weaker tank that was affordable, tarnished trowel served as a REALLY good tank that in my opinion is better than telamon / titan, tumored trowel he was op cuz the spikes and you would prefer him more because he was a better meatshield. but now he sucks and the reworks are.. ehhh.
one of the reasons why bucket changed the tarnished is because he didn't like the designs. he also removed tumored trowel's spikes because it turned what was already the best meatshield in the game into something overpowered.
Sure, the tumored trowel nerf sucks, but I’m not gonna harass someone and send threats to a person just because of a rework, I really feel bad for bucket.
@@DaReaIFallen i don't understand why people say Imagine this or that, its happening if we like it or not, also if you said that to the angry person in question, you are done for ive seen it happen
atleast tumored trowel HAS the omni immune which is immune to every effect, such as stun, scare, hellfire, and others so i think he is still worth it (it is worse than old tumored trowel though)
Idea: tumore battle. So basically you fight tumore and he has 3 phase basically. first phase: starts out as normal but with 2500 health and he deals 100 damage every hit oh and you fight the enemy’s you fought in the first part of tumore chapter 1. Phase 2: he becomes his old alt form and now is health is doubled and he has a longer range and he deals 500 damage he also respawns at base and now you have to deal with the second part of tumore chapter 1 while dealing with the first. Last phase: stuff just get wild I forgot to mention you fight at the house i’lll get to house later but anyways toxic waste barrel fall onto him he becomes his new alt and he gets his new stats and when he attacks head will fall out of him growing into the tumore battlers *not the ones for his first phase* and now you have to deal with every enemy you have encountered *not the bosses* and every 2 minutes a part of the roof from the house fall down dealing 50 damage but it stuns if you manage to defeat him his heads will fall out while he blows up and the heads become tumore battlers *as I said not form the first phase* and you did you beated tumore battler and you got his respect. Buffs: Uber rares are more common, you get a discount on battlers from tumore industries and your battlers are more faster. Oh and to the house. First phase: normal house. Second phase: tumore house. Third phase: the ground is barely holding up anyone more your flying in the air and the house is cracked some how holding up and if you want to unlock this you must have alt tumore battler at lvl 25 then he will challenge you a battle in a sun chapter called “tumore trouble”. How you all enjoyed my idea 😃
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i dont really know what you mean by a "worse" trowel since they are literally tumored trowel and regular trowel are basically the same unit, apart from tumored's omni immunity. the reason it was nerfed was cause old tumored trowel was overtly overpowered, and bucket didnt wanna design around that... not to mention people already think trowel is the best normal so making tumored trowel the best tumored would just be stupid
Pretty sure that's because TTrowel can't get speed buffs from bugle or Lil Exec, range buffs from protest, or damage buffs (not even sure this counts for trowel??) from outcry.
I think both tumored and tarnished trowel shoud get his spike back + defense Tumored wall: +50 res and 5 def Tarnished trowel: 80 res and effect immunity
Tarnished trowel and tarnished battler would just be strong its because their own damage....you could just solo 3 star infernus by using tarnished trowel and tarnished battler they are both the strongest.
How to fix tumored trowel: Give his spikes back, make his wall 4 times as strong as his base hp, and increase his hp at level 25 from 174 to 200. Remove his omni immunity apart from on his wall (which should already have that cause it could be bucket tagged) If this is op, don't blame me as trowel has failed me *so* many times
Сразу говорю я тупой можно бы сделать так чтобы на 5 уровне у него появлялись шипы и на 10 будет его форма старая а в 20/15 будет та форма которую мы видим в игре (и да я знаю что это тупо)
how i would buff tarnished trowel he gains both thorns and the immunitys, upon spawning, gains a thorn shield, gaining 4+ walkspeed, upon hitting an enemy, the shield breaks, setting his speed to 1.
I don’t care about Tumored Battler’s rework. Tarnished Battler’s rework is fun to use. Summoners are always my favourite types of towers to use. Tumored Trowel’s rework is great because it finally gives you a reason to use Spiked Battler now that Tumored Trowel no longer has any, Tarnished Trowel can be good if you have the patience to let him reach the front lines. In the meantime, use something to buff his speed like Bugle. (DISCLAIMER: I have never used Tumored Trowel because I have no reason to care)
The fact everyone wants old tumore/tarnished trowel Like how tumore trowel "speed" Plus the old tarnished trowel is still great to use since he can body slam
When Tumore Trowler got a nerf. Instead of the folks accepting it and just moved on. The community decided to be complete morons and Harass Bucket. This results in Bucket quitting entirely. This shows how idiotic the communiry really is!
i left the battle bricks when he changed the xp to a timer to get the xp what you think me or the others are? speedrunners? pros? other then the timer, its a heavy long grind, no thanks
I have a rework for tumored & tarnished trowel: Give them their spikes back, dealing 125% damage back to the opponents, for tarnished, he'll have two abilities: Wall hell (happens once every 3 minutes, summons walls all around the map in front of him at his same level, they dissapear after 1 and a half minutes.) Tankish Roar (which is like tarnished battler's roar but it doesnt die since it happens at 25% health, summons a tumored trowel, and the spikes shoot out, damaging ALL units & enemies for 25% of their health, he regains the spikes after 30s if he's not dead and can't reuse it) His walkspeed is .75 His damage (Starts off from 200, increases to 1650 at level 25) His health stays the same, but here's where it gets interesting: His cost decreases for every minute he's available till he's 2750 (which is 50/m and goes along with 2 star & 3 star, for 4750 and 5750) He has 30 defense, loses SOME immunity to the various effects: Slowness? Immune Jail / Lock? Immune Oh and did I mention the rework gives him a chance to summon a wall every hit AND he can get rid of buffs (Such as damage, speed, firerate increase) from the enemy? He's also immune to gold effects (Such as treasure bank & pirate battler's money) however ranged units (30+ range) deal less damage, explosives & hammer units deal more damage to him
Why is Tarnished Battler so much easier to get and like at least 8x better then tarnished trowel?? It makes no sense they could atleast give tarnished trowel the death explosion thing to make him have ONE USE other then being a overprices slow meatshield 😭I AM NOT GRINDING FOR BRO UNLESS HE GETS A BUFF TO MAKE HIM WORTH IT
because of how bad tumored/tarnished trowel rework is, bucket is going into drama, and this can cause his game to be canceled due to a lot of hate to him for doing this stupid rework
@@DaReaIFallenhe will quit the community for a while but he will return Harrassement OVER A NERF TO 1 UNIT I can’t believe this is the community we get over a game based off of the battle cats
@@abulletant1147 Cuh, he has like 6K HP now and summons a wall on death, if he dies early on he won't be protecting anything besides the base. Chances are any battlers that get ahead of the wall will die instantly. There can also be one wall at a time.
![A Quick Overview of The Reworked Tumored and Tarnished Battlers [The Battle Bricks]](/img/logo.svg){kind=logo}
