A radical plan change... WHY? - Sailing A B Sea (Ep.110)

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In this episode of Sailing A B Sea we share our thoughts about a radical plan change for the next sailing season.
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@SailingABSea 4 года назад

We're asking you three questions in this video and we'd love to get your feedback on them. Please leave your comments below. Cheers.

@okanbirer5867 4 года назад

Good news guys! It’s will be a big pleasure to see you again in Turkish coast. Looking forward to seeing soon. 👍⚓️⛵️

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Thanks, we're really excited about heading back to Turkey. 😀

@kcaskmelater5079 4 года назад

I think the what ever job is being done both of you are outstanding at doing them. Keep up the great work

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Thanks KC askmelater, we appreciate your feedback. And it's great to know you're 'with us' as we work!

@luc1644 4 года назад

Such a nice choice. Kaş is a wonderful place. One of my favorite places in the world. Serefe!

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

We totally agree with you Luc. 👍 😀

@sailingcalmedbythesea7495 3 года назад

Great editing style. It flows and makes for great viewing. Many thanks

@SailingABSea 3 года назад

Thanks for that feed back, we appreciate it. Cheers.

@johnjcoxiii9401 4 года назад

I always enjoy your videos and YES! The editing is first class every time. One BIG thing I love about your videos is that you do not interrupt or override the dialog with superfluous "background" music. Yours are about the Reality of the Cruising Lifestyle. THANK YOU! the Old Coastie.

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Thanks John, it's really heartwarming to receive comments like yours. We're all about keeping it real. Cheers. 👍

@FlyNineVictor 4 года назад

LED bulbs are polarity sensitive. Reverse the leads if your led bulbs don't lite up, but your incandescent bulbs do

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

The steaming light worked properly when we sailed from Spain to Turkey, so it's probably a broken connection, hopefully at the base of the mast.

@markrodger276 4 года назад

Hi guys, change out your stainless bow shackles for good quality galvanised ones. The bolts on galvanised shackles naturally bind onto the threads so are less likely to come out even if your wire breaks.

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

A good tip, thanks Mark. 👍

@markrodger276 4 года назад

@@SailingABSea no worries, hope you are ready to fly a kite tomorrow for clean Monday

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Yeah we noticed that Limni was busier than usual, apparently they fly kites here at the bat yard. We'll film it.

@8028rsj 4 года назад

Wow that stuff worked great on the dinghy !

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

We're also interested to see how it performs on the rust stains when we do the final clean.👍

@8028rsj 4 года назад

See if there is a join in the wire inside the headliner below the mast. It is probably one 3 core wire and each fixture uses a common ground and with the other 2 wires as positives for each light. If that join is good then it's back to the panel or back up the mast to measure 12 volts at the fixture.

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

(Baz) Yep that's where I reckon it is too. Fingers crossed.

@johnlord7854 4 года назад

Great video, thanks to you both :) Awesome news !!! Cant wait to meet up with you in turkey !!!

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Looking forward to sharing stories over an EFES or two. 👍

@johnlord7854 4 года назад

@@SailingABSea or 3 🤣 Looking forward to catching up with Jim too :)

@andybrands1883 4 года назад

If the springs at the top of the mast in the lamp holder are solid Ansh that's not good give them a squirt of WD 40 or electrical contact cleaner if you stick your finger in they should both be "springy" fnnarr fnarr bit of Finbar Saunders there !! Don't know your set up on AB Sea guys check your deck plugs at bottom of mast then your switch back at panel for 12v in and out. A strong wind from your rear quarter as always guys!! XXX PS I know you guys will know that already X

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Hi Andy, thanks for sharing those tips. We'll dig deeper into the boat wiring. 👍

@svhulda6157 4 года назад

Stainless shakles: No one can tell lifespan, or when they may crack due to corrosion. Thats why I use galvanized carbon steel shakles only. And the galvanized shakles don't unscrew. And they will not take part in any galvanic reaction. My rod kicker from Selden is fitted the other way around, no water can enter in.

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

We're going to change the shackles for galvanised when we get back to Turkey. Interesting option about the kicker, we'll look into that. Thanks.

@svhulda6157 4 года назад

Another recommendation is of course to use a ball hammer and slightly rivit the shackles at the thread end. Works for stainless and carbon steel. More idiot proof than thread locking.

@rwriddell 4 года назад

Hi Barry & Aannsha, editing gets full marks. I thought your 'off season' vid's would be a bit boring - wrong! Great reminder to us yachters, experienced or otherwise, just what a hammering yachts experience thanks to the actions of salt water, wear and tear, faulty or incorrectly used fittings & products, and the massive payback from investing time in the meticulous inspection, testing, repairing of the yacht and it's ancillary's. A change of plan: Good decision. There is a huge 'retiring baby boom market' who want to 'live' a little whilst health permits. You guys are best placed to invite folk aboard ABSEA and take the time to help folks understand the upsides as well as the downsides of living the dream. Using Turkey as a base is a good call. Having travelled through 33 countries in the last two years, I agree, Turkey and the Turks get my vote. Kicker: Drill a drain hole! Be good. Love ya. Rob xx

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Hey Rob, thanks for that great feedback. From feedback like yours it seems the simplest solution is to drill a drain hole. That job will be tackles in Turkey. Cheers.👍

@bojangles8837 4 года назад

What's up with that crazy looking swivel ? In my opinion I have never seen the point of anchor swivels. All they do is add a potential point of failure to the anchoring system and provide little or no benefits in return. My concern about swivels has always centered on the possibility of one of the two screws backing out, as happened to a friend nearly costing him his boat-anchor shackles are always moused with wire, so why not swivels? And the fact that the swivel shaft-made of stainless and therefore subject to work hardening-is torqued over the bow roller every time the anchor is hauled.as well as others are swivels in general are a bad idea and are the weak point in a critical area.

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Good points James. The reason for that particular swivel is to ensure that Aannsha doesn't need to manually get involved in making sure the anchor comes over the bow roller correctly. It's a heavy anchor and I just want to make it as easy as possible for her at the bow. Before we fitted the swivel n Turkey the anchor would regularly not play nicely when coming up over the roller.

@colkild726 4 года назад

Excellent information, I have just contacted Setur Marmaris on also taking advantage of this contract offer. I have mentioned to them that I got to know about this by way ofA B SEA RU-vid channel..

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Hey Col, that's great and thank you. Which Setur marina will you be based at?

@Michael-cf9lf 4 года назад

All the best to you guys. interesting the hydrofoil. Nicely edited.

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Thanks Michael. 😀

@BPratto 4 года назад

Excellent editing job. Looking forward to next weeks episode.

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Thank you James.👍

@8028rsj 4 года назад

Very interested to see the results of the foil on the dinghy performance.

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Yeah, we're also interested to see how the dinghy performs with the new wing. 😀

@shanevillis4079 4 года назад

Well Baz, you need a haircut, and seeing as how you are going to Turkey, you need to go to Istanbul and go here. The Chuckmuck Barber Shop Istanbul...... And also document the experience.

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

(Baz) Good timing mate, I actually had Aannsha cut my hair yesterday. 👍 But a session at Chuckmuck sounds like a good idea. 😀

@shanevillis4079 4 года назад

@@SailingABSea hahaha

@RusstafaB 4 года назад

Great idea about the crewing to try out the live aboard lifestyle Video editing good and a very enjoyable episode thanks 😊

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Thanks for watching, glad that you enjoyed it. Cheers mate. 👍

@leightonthomas8233 4 года назад

It's looking far too sunny there for February lol, Blowing a gale here with hail 'n all... 7 weeks ish and counting down.

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Don't let the sun fool you, it's still rather chilly. 🙂

@michaelraine6879 4 года назад

Hi guys thanks for the great entertainment you provide and the interesting problems you come across , my comment is about the light , I had a problem with an interior light in my ute canopy and found that the earth was dodgy and the Led!s don't work too good with a bad earth.Good luck with the new venture stay safe.

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Hey Michael, we'll be checking the wiring as much as we can. It did work when we left Spain in 2018. Hopefully it's just a bad connection.

@user-us6ce7me8k 4 года назад

What an awesome life! 😍

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

It's not all unicorns and rainbows, but it does have its moments. Cheers.

@lyndeebrider2340 4 года назад

Have a sundowner for me at the Oxygen Bar in Kas Marina. Good memories

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

We will certainly do that Lyndee.

@davidleatherbarrow2640 4 года назад

Whoa. Before running new wire all the way up the mast did you think to check that the " new " mast head light actually worked.? David.

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Hi David, the combo steaming light and deck floodlight unit were installed new in Spain and have both been used several times. The deck floodlight still powers on, but not the separate steaming light. It's on our jobs list to take the headliner down at the mast compression post and inspect the cabling there. If you're referencing the LED light itself then we will test the old one to see if that lights up.

@davidleatherbarrow2640 4 года назад

@@SailingABSea Hi Aussies. Yes I was referring to checking the new bulb, some of them are faulty from the factory. Good Luck with it. David.

@nooneanybodyknows1321 4 года назад

For the two of you and us of course, I would love for you to be able to take a road trip to Cappadocia. I think it's about a 10-hour road trip from Kas. If I ever make it to Turkey, Cappadocia is, for me, a MUST! A hot air balloon ride over this enchanted land is what dreams are made of. No wonder so many choose to propose and/or marry there. I hope you get the opportunity before you move on from Turkey.

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Cappadocia and the balloon flight is one of the things on our radar. It would be fun to do it with you. Fingers crossed. 👍

@murraywestenskow2896 4 года назад

I'm only two minutes in - and I feel like it's Christmas. As you know, I love Turkey, having lived there as a child, (US Military dad) and I think this is a really great idea. Whether or not I can crew for a week or two is undetermined right now - as my new business venture is going way faster than anticipated - but I'm as excited as can be. Now, I can watch the rest of the video. Just had to comment.

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

We'd love to have you come on board Murray. We can explore ancient ruins together. 😀

@harveyg845 4 года назад

Bazz , do some checking on the boom vang / kicker, I know that some of them have neoprene seals in them something like the front forks of a motor cycle. Best to make sure of what you have, before you end up with a oily mess on the deck of your boat.

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

We've been told that it's on upside down, another job added to the list. 😁

@harveyg845 4 года назад

Hi Bazz, if you have a 12 volt test light go back up the mast and check to make sure if there is power to the light socket or not. The positive lead is the bottom terminal or terminals if there are two and the ground is the side of the socket itself .the positive terminals are spring loaded with what LOOKS like the spring from a ink pen and sometimes the get stuck in the down position or break off, and the terminal cant come up high enough to make the connection. Its worth a check before you start pulling wires though. Also the editing looked great. Nice job!

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

More investigation is on the jobs list. 👍

@philthefarrier9469 4 года назад

Is that a new dingy? Impressive, cleaner.

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

We were so stoked at how clean the dinghy turned out. It took us 3 hours and a lot of elbow grease. But well worth it.

@SailingAurora 4 года назад

Hi guys, great video, really good information and that's a cool thing with the marina deal. Cant answer your questions unfortunately, I would like to know the answers though. Would definitely consider and really would really want to crew with you guys although not sure if plans would allow this year. Cheers guys

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Drop us an email and we can chat further about crewing, if not this year, then maybe next. Cheers.

@AlanCookeFX 4 года назад

Great video and info, we wondered how you might avoid the upcoming issue of Brexit and possible regs changes etc which nobody can even guess what they might be...and going to Turkey again is a great decision for so many reasons.

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Hey Alan, Turkey stole our hearts. We're excited about returning there. 😀

@6969allgood 4 года назад

Baz and Aannsha I would love to come out at some point this year and have a sail with you Ile be cabin boy :-)

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

We'd love to see you again Freddie. We'll send you a private message with some details about crewing. Cheers.

@SVImpavidus 4 года назад

Hi Guys. Get yourselves a right angle drill chuck for your drill and some stubby drill bits. Toolmart do them in the UK cheap and cheerful. You can then get in to tight corners were there is no room. PM us and we will send you a link. Sail Safe guys. Ant, Cid and the pooch crew.

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Will do. 👍

@SailingMiNina 4 года назад

Hello. I was so scared. Thanks God all was OK. You should not (must not) climb to the mast while boat is out of water..!! Have friendly winds with you 👍☺️

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

The cradles here at the yard are super solid, in fact we talk about them in the next video.

@davefoster7770 4 года назад

If you hit Antalya, I can take you on a tour of beer vending establishments. ;)

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Antalya is on our radar. 🍺 👍

@cougartpt793 4 года назад

Hi guys are you going to do Anzac day on Anzac cove as you are in Turkey

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

If we're in the area we might do. But it is a long way from Kas.

@cougartpt793 4 года назад

3 days sail is not that far guys

@kidocq 4 года назад

You really need to go back to Kas !!! You need to go to Oktay 😂

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

(Baz) I think a pampering session is probably due. 👍

@FlyNineVictor 4 года назад

PS. I could be talked into crowing for a time. 57, married, fit, sailor. Getting ready to move onto a boat...

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Drop us an email, address is at the 2.:00 minute mark of the video, and we can chat about it. Cheers.

@bowwave59 4 года назад

Your Anchor.- it has two holes . One - your chain is currently on and the other near the blade other end of the shank. If you put your chain on that hole 1st attachment point. ( base of the shank,) Then run chain along the shank up to the hole on the end of the shank 2nd attachment point.... ( your current attachment) and shackle it. Your anchor chain is now attached at two points. . If your anchor was to get stuck on rock or an obstacle on sea bed . You can pull hard and the upper shackle will break. The chain is still attached at the base near the blade, thus the force now pulling the anchor out instead of trying to plough in deeper. You recover your anchor without loss. I am sure the upper attachment shackle would be a specific break away shackle that will break at a certain tonnage. The chain between the two attachment points must be slack. This set up does not affect anchoring. The force applied when the anchor is at the sea bed is still horizontal , the anchor ploughs in because it’s effectively pulling on attachment 2 ...attachment point 1 is your emergency.... just an idea .

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

That's an interesting idea Paul. We'll look into that when we get to Turkey. 👍

@brucereimer1700 4 года назад

GOOD STAINLESS WILL NEVER RUST ...BUT CHEAP OR PLATED STAINLESS WILL RUST SOONER OR LATER

@kidocq 4 года назад

I could be interested in being a crew member a week in September 😉😃

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

We'll send you the PDF we put together. 👍

@petecarr9824 4 года назад

Q1.Interesting you are heading back to Turkey, I was told (rightly or wrongly) that if you have Turkish residency (which i know you did last winter) and you are out of Turkey for over 6 months, residency is cancelled. I'm sure you have a plan, I would be very interested to hear it. Q2. Not a good idea to mix stainless steel and galvanised steel, as others have said, all galvanised is probably the way to go. Q3. Good editing, may I ask what software you use? I know you have a Windows PC. nearly everyone else seems to use a Mac (I'm not keen on Apple myself) Q4.It looks like your Boom Vang is upside down, but I may be wrong.

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Hey Pete, Q1 we have been told that renewing Turkish residency is simpler once you've had a previous application approved, so getting a new 12 month card should be no problem. Q2 We plan on changing to all galvanised once we get to Turkey. Q3 We use Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2014, Bought outright before Adobe went down the monthly fee route. Q4 Many other have mention that it is upside down and even commented that the struts are probably shot because it does not actually hold the boom up. Another job added to the list. 😀 👍

@vial1sim 4 года назад

Your kicker is upside down. Swap the stainless bow shackle for a gal one.

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

We plan on changing the shackles once we get to Turkey and turning the kicker around is now on the jobs list. 👍

@bayanicustodio3998 4 года назад

Does that mean you have to get another temporary resident permit again?

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Yes it does, but it should be a lot simpler as we are already in the system.

@MrSolotwo 4 года назад

Hi I have been toying with the idea of sailing but I have another year as my daughter has to finish her college degree first. Then I can think about traveling. Anyway in prep I am on the hunt for a boat as I have arranged a hard storage area for it for the next year if needed. So if something comes up and is suitable I will move on it and I have a year at least to get it sorted for sailing. My question to you is how did that 12V water heater work out for you. You swapped out the 230V so how were the hot showers? I have looked through your vids but could not find a follow up. Is that a bad thing? Thanks

@AannshaJones 4 года назад

Hi there Mr Solotwo, It’s good to hear from you. One year will go quickly and you will be thinking of travelling very soon. We have a friend who lives in Kaş marina in Turkey and he has shared links of boats that two of his friends have put on the market for sale. Please find the links below. One is for a Dufour and one is for a Bavaria. Dufour ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-p7WVD3mMSBs.html Bavaria ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eAnjJj7nCCQ.html&feature=share To answer your question about the 12V water heater, it worked perfectly, but for us not having a water maker, to run the hot water from the tank at the stern of the boat forward to the heads and the shower means that we wasted too much water waiting for the hot water to arrive. So we showered outside on the swim platform. Once we get a water maker installed, this won’t be a problem. The hot water production itself from the heater has been excellent. Do let us know what specifications you’re looking for in a yacht and if we hear of anything we will let you know. Kind regards Aannsha and Barry

@MrSolotwo 4 года назад

@@AannshaJones Hi Aannsha that was a very prompt reply was not expecting that. I will be sailing single handed so I was looking for something around 40 foot in a cat as they are a bit easier to sail shorthanded. I have my eye on a couple in Turkey but they are very expensive. Thank you for the answer so basically 12V heater need water maker or no drinking water. Good to know. There is a video on RU-vid where I guy builds a watermaker for his boat from easily obtained and cheap parts. I am sure that Bas could whip one up.

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

(Baz) I have been toying with the idea of building a DIY water maker. I like the idea that parts are readily available in most parts of the world.

@MrSolotwo 4 года назад

@@SailingABSea Hi Guys, This is the information put up and you can view his video. It seems good. In the hopes of creating a community resource, in this video, I go through how I put together our 30 gallon per hour watermaker for our sailboat using basic off the shelf parts, I'll show you how to operate the system, as well as flush it out, and share some tips and tricks. Scroll down for the parts list of the major components and where I purchased them. Thanks for watching and subscribing! To support the making of these videos, go here: www.patreon.com/adventurer For the most up to date info on what we're up to, Like and Follow us on Facebook: facebook.com/svadventurer Take us out to lunch: svadventurer.blogspot.com/p/bu... Parts List: Housing purchased at www.americanro.com Housing part # ccsw-2540 Membrane # sw30-2540 www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00... Cat Pump purchased at www.jnequipment.com pump part # 2SF15SEEL Cat Pump rebuild kit: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07... 1HP Marathon 120V Electric Motor purchased at (out of business but available on Amazon): Marathon part #5KCR49UN0106Y www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00. Jabsco boost pump model # 18660-0121 Pressure Guage, Needle Valve, and Flow Meter purchased at www.dwyer-inst.com Pressure guage # SGY-D11242N Needle Valve # HNV-SSS32B Flow Meter Liquatec part # PMF-0202 www.farriswater.com/zcart/pdf/... Pre-filters and Housings 5 micron filter www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01... 20 micron filter www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07 Housing www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07 Gary

@subocajw 4 года назад

Hi Guys, The water cumming from the boomvang is not normal.... There is a small draining hole in the midle of the lower fitting. Looks like a Sparcraft boomvang, just fixed mine this week...... But there is something else. In the vang is a gas spring (one or two) that is supposed to push the boom up. Look like yours is not working. Mine had rusted away completely. I changed it for a stainless (316) one. Watch this: svjeorgia.blogspot.com/2013/01/rebuilding-sparcraft-boom-vang.html I ordered the gas spring online via a webshop. Found the specs on: www.rigrite.com/Spars/Isomat_Spars/Sparcraft_Pneuvang.php. You need to keep to these specs because if its too long you won’t be able to close it and you need the exact power to keep the boom up. Google Sparcraft boomvang repair and you find lots off info.... A working vang also helps furling in the main. Hope this helps you on the way. Cheers, AsianTune & Captain K MasarapSailing

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Thanks, that's really helpful information. Looks like another job goes on the list. Hahahaha

@ianmcknight7310 4 года назад

What does a marina berth cost per annum in Kas?

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

We have negotiated for 13 months a price of 34,215 Turkish Lira (AU$8,397). Water and electricity are extra.

@sailing-etanche 4 года назад

@@SailingABSea That's a lot of money

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

It certainly is.

@sailinghooponopono2457 4 года назад

This is not bad for the Med. in Spain, where I stay this year, you'll be hard pressed to find something less than € 600, pr. month, i.e. AUS 12.196 pr.year. For similar size boat.

@AannshaJones 4 года назад

@ Sailing Étanche sadlly, Sailing Ho'oponopono is correct about Med marina costs. In my blog I outline some of the research I did on about 14 marinas - mainly in Spain and Gibraltar. Basically, in Spain alone, marina prices range from AU$7,000 to AU$21,000 for 12 months. That is AU$19 - AU$57 per day if you divide the annual rate by 365. But actual daily rates are higher. For instance, while the annual rate to stay at the yacht port of Cartagena is EUR 5,062.90 / AU$8170, one night at Cartagena marina actually costs 32.76 Euros / AU$55.40. A month would cost us 452.20 Euros / AU$764.92.

@steenkigerrider5340 4 года назад

A 1mounth old outboard and Mercury refusing warranty?! Thanks for letting me know, so I can skip the effort of ever considering anything from their (bloody) product range.

@steenkigerrider5340 4 года назад

"month" Question: why don't you fit a prop protector?

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Yeah, we were a little disappointed with Mercury about that. A prop protector is a good idea, we'll do some searching on the Interwebs.👍

@brucereimer1700 4 года назад

I WOULD LOVE TO DO WHAT YOU TWO ARE BUT I DO NOT HAVE THE FUNDS AND I AM 67 SO I AM TO OLD TO START SAVING ...BUT I LIKE YOUR SHOW ON YOU TUBE

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Hey Bruce, thanks for watching, maybe you can come on board as crew for a week to experience the whole thing. 😀

@ianmcknight7310 4 года назад

Hi Baz, Great vid as usual....Best to put a "rated" galvanised bow shackle instead of the stainless (Gal anchor, Gal chain should be gal shackle no dissimilar metals and stronger), peened over the end, cut them off and chuck them away when you change them over, not worth the risk. You wouldn't use a stainless shackle on a safety chain trailer, would you? you know the old saying "The chain is only as strong as the weakest link" kb.rocna.com/kb/Shackles www.mantusmarine.com/mantus-anchor-shackles/ look at the rating difference in gal compared to stainless.

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

When we get to Turkey we'll be swapping the shackles for galvanised. 👍

@ianmcknight7310 4 года назад

@@SailingABSea I'm interested in looking at a boat(s) in Antalya in late April, so we could be interested in a "test Drive" on yours as "crew" what the best contact details. regards Ian

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

@@ianmcknight7310 use the email address on screen at the 2.32 mark in the video and we can chat about details. 👍

@ianmcknight7310 4 года назад

@@SailingABSea Done.

@HeathLedgersChemist 4 года назад

Natural != good. Uranium is natural. Cyanide is natural. Algae blooms are natural. Cancer is natural. Just because something is 'natural' does not necessarily mean it is good.

@SailingABSea 4 года назад

Ooops, looks like someone gt out of the wrong side of bed. 🙁