A Random Convo About Church 

I found a church last year after not going for YEARS. Now I’m there so much, and am always one of the lasts to leave. This community has impacted my life in such a large way; it’s such a blessing to experience the love of Christ with people that love Him just as much as you do. If you haven’t been in a while, please do not forsake the assembly. There’s a reason we need each other. Join a church, and serve, and commune with the body of Christ. It’s vital

Charles Stanley is another. He was the first non charismatic preacher I listened to and I actually started to LEARN something 💕

“He didn’t die just so I could learn about me. He died so that I could know God”. Jackie Hill-Perry 2023 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Sheesh 😭

“The Bible points to a person, and that person is not me” - Preston Perry 2023 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Whoever reading this, God never sends you into a situation alone, God goes before you, He stands beside you, He walks behind you. Whatever situation you have right now be confident. God is with you. Amen 🙏🙏

Tony Evans, Charles Stanley and Chuck Swindoll, these 3 men has fed me, cause me to grow and hold on to God for all times.

I really appreciate this. Became a Christian 4 years ago and I’ve been hurt by some Christian’s I saw as mentors. Decided to go to church for healing and it was all worth it. My relationship is closer to God and I’ve learned what forgiveness meant. People please go to Church. If Christian’s have hurt you please know that God did not. He will restore you! Also pray for those who hurt you and also pray for yourself to not hurt others as well.

I feel finding a community is easier said then done

Tony Evans is solid! His ministry has helped me to spiritually mature!

They go so deep, so fast and with so much conviction, wisdom, grace, and TRUTH! I appreciate their pure ministry unto the Lord.

I heard this couple of years ago: for the church to become yours - you have to find a need and start serving

First of all, I would just like to say that I love your podcast and I’ve learned so much from listening to you. There have been times I have literally been driving in my car and pulled over to write something down that you said. Y’all touched on something today that I see a lot in my own community: Consumer Christianity … how many people bounce around looking for the trendiest church, or the most entertaining pastors. I think we should all pray for wisdom and discernment, and seek pastors and leaders who point us to Jesus and speak the Word first and foremost. If they aren’t teaching scripture more than anything else this should be a red flag. We need to get away from going to church with an attitude of selfish fulfillment and look for churches that are building us as disciples of Christ. Y’all touched on this so eloquently today. I think this is an important conversation to keep having. Thank you so much for your ministry and using your gifts to teach and guide us!

I struggle with going to church because I feel like people in church are sooooo fake!! I know dudes in the streets with more integrity then anyone I ever met at any church I ever been to. But when Jackie read Acts 9:3-6 It really hit me hard. I love y’all ❤️

This makes me think about itching ears! I also believe that the “boring” preaching teaches discipline, and reveals things about where you are in your flesh and spiritual walk in Christ. The same for listening to gospel music. It’s like are you really able to worship God or are you in your emotions. Again this is my own personal perspective via the things I myself encountered. This conversation really blessed me. I enjoy these kinds of conversations.

With the Perry’s has totally changed my life and my relationship with my husband. Thank you so much for y’all’s marriage and just zeal for the Lord!❤️🔥

Asking for prayer. My husband is a believer but is against church attendance because he thinks they're all corrupt. I miss community so much.

“Stained God’s carpet” 😂😂😂😂😂

I'm 21 years old and I'm still in university. I've been church hoping for so long since being here, and I just pray that God leads me to a local church that I can be a part of. The issue that I have is that I often feel ignored or left out in a church I'm new at. Everyone usually has their cliques and I guess my social anxiety doesn't allow me to connect with them. But through prayer and God's will, I won't give up trying.I'm all the way from South Africa by the way 🇿🇦

I can relate to Preston on Tim Keller. I started listening to him again a few months ago and I have never understood the gospel and salvation better. Praise God for his life.

Just watched your video about the humanity of celebrities. It's so hard to not look at yall as our friends. I feel like yall sitting on the couch chilling talking about lifes important subjects. Yall are so cool, laid back, funny, and relatable. A lot of us are missing this in our christian circle.

When I first came to Christ I was absolutely against being apart of a church because of church hurt and pride tbh but TODAY 👏🏾 I absolutely love my local church and I can’t even imagine where I’d be in life, spiritually without them!

Hebrews 10:25 “Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.”

Charles Stanley was another great teacher.

I left my the catholic church 9 years ago and haven't been to an actual church since. I came back to faith in 2018 and have been reading and studying the Bible ever since and growing my relationship with Christ. During the pandemic I turned to the "mega" churches online and I do see now that most of it is motivational speaking. I know God commands us to have fellowship and we were not meant to follow Christ in isolation. I have felt the loneliness since my family doesn't have strong faith and I have few friends who share the love of God like me. Last week I found a church close to me and I plan to try it out Sunday! Im really excited and hopeful but I also have some anxiety about going alone and making friends. Im shy and Im not the best at initiating conversation. Please pray for me that this is a good fit and that im finally able to find friends and a community. I am so happy God led me to this channel, it has really impacted my life. its so refreshing to find people who can preach the word of God but keep it real about how hard it can be as a Christian in todays age! God bless y'all!

I’m musically inclined, and I’m extremely sensitive to sound that i become overstimulated when things are off. The church i attend, the worship team is so amazing that I feel every moment, and I bawl my heart out every service. The pastor’s messages and deliverance are great, and I learn a lot from the services. His voice though, has a particular tone that is sharp to the ear and without soft contrast. Almost like nails on a chalkboard for me for some reason. I feel bad for feeling that way. I always see it through because it’s not about me; I came there for Jesus, not my comfort. I just feel bad for thinking those thoughts about the pastor at all though.

There is a video on YT made by a Catholic content creator that was on how the protestant notion of worship isn't really worship. As he explained himself, I started to understand what he meant. In many non-denominational/protestant churches, "worship" is synonymous with "music". Recently, I had the chance to visit an orthodox church, both out of curiosity and out of a desire to better understand my brothers and sisters in the faith from other church traditions. It was during that entire 3+ hour long service that I truly began to understand what that creator meant. The collective chants of scripture professing the tenets of our faith, the prayers for the global church and the orthodox priesthood for fidelity to the teachings of Christ, the collective prayer for the forgiveness of sin, the sing-song chants of praise and glory to the triune God, and more. In that moment I felt what I experienced was true worship. I have so many questions following that experience like why more non-denominational churches do not include prayers for fidelity to the word for church leadership as part of their regular service? Why don't we collectively profess the tenets of our faith, especially if we are "seeker friendly"? If someone unfamiliar with Christianity had walked into that orthodox church, they would leave knowing exactly what it is Christ taught and the Church practices because it is laid out plainly. In most modern protestant churches that I have attended, it's "worship music --> announcements --> teaching --> closing prayer -->fellowship, maybe". And Sundays are centered around the teaching, which isn't bad, but could risk becoming a glorified extended Bible study with a mini concert at the start. It would be nice to hear thoughts on how to bring more worship into the non-denominational church that extends beyond music.

As someone who has found you guys in the last year or so, I feel like y'all need to do a "get to know us" podcast. You drop bits and pieces from your past in every episode but would love to hear a timeline. Walk with god from the beginning, meeting each other, your "careers" and what has brought you to this point of recognition

I thank God we were able to still seek God's face in the confines of our home during the pandemic. My husband preached to family each Sunday leading back to the Churches reopening.

I think there’s also a problem with mega churches that have sound teaching and great worship teams but lack in community.

Worship is for no other reason than to worship God. No matter how it sounds to us listening. Ive heard of musicians and singers who are not even believers in Christ Jesus that perform every church service because they are employed by the church. Sometimes we focus on the entertainment aspects that church has become

As a woman 31 in the Midwest it’s almost taboo to still be single. I appreciate the acknowledgment and compassion.

18:23 - 18:48 THIS PART💯💯 I went through my journey during the pandemic seeking a community but found myself believing in prosperity gospel instead of the LORD’s GOSPEL. I’m still learning and getting there. I felt discouraged after finding out how much I was deep but with the help of this podcast, praying and learning to read more of his word : I’m getting there🙏🏽 Thank you Lord for your patience and guidance ♥️♥️

34:45 I was saying to my friend that God is really calling us to the carpet right now about being disciplined and discipled. It’s important to be aware that even leaders are sheep to a point

Can yall do a compilation of your funniest moments? 😂

So, I hear you both saying Jesus is at the center of the story not me. I entered His story. He should be the foremost influencer in my life.

RIP Tim Keller. He truly helped me to have a solid foundation in my relationship with God. Great talk today!

“Ya’ll treating me like Im a leper because Im not married.” As a single mom who attends a church she enjoys but finding it hard to connect with others because of where Im at in life is a real thing. But Im encouraged by this conversation to look at the church as who Jesus identifies with, as his bride so I need to offer more of myself to it. Regardless how out of place I feel, I know I have something to offer and eager to learn. Jackie you a real one thinking of those who are looked over young and old. 🕊️ God bless you both.

Jerry Flowers Jr. of Redefinedtv is one of my all time favorite Pastors. A voice for this generation, just like you Perry's.

Shout out to Eric Mason from Epiphany Fellowship here in Philadelphia ❤ phenomenal teacher preacher and pastor.

Great discussion! 1. Never Forget Jesus in Our Teachings whether pulling from Old or New Testament. 2. Never Forget the Church is God's Bride and being a part of the Body of Believers is important. 3. Sit Under/Follow someone that points you to Jesus. ❤🙌🏽

Yall are amazing!! I love your ministry!!! Thank you so much.

Amen I absolutely love this podcast ❤

I'm so not attracted to fluff preaching. I can not sit through it. I do not have ears that need tickling, at this point in my life I am attracted to the truth, no matter how it makes me feel, I have to hear what's going to set me free.

God bless the both of you! This message is so spot on.

I really appreciated this episode. Thank you both!

Bless you guys with this wonderful message ❤

Chuck Swindoll/Alistair Begg.. Two of my favorites.. Both solid teachers🙏🏾

This is truly solid. I thank God for this message and podcast and for Him giving y’all the blessing to let Him live in it

This was so encouraging and I needed to hear this. Reminder thank you for your Ministry and this podcast

I love y'all so much! I love y'alls relationship and the wisdom that y'all share. Blessings unto you and your entire family.

I’m only 17 minutes in but this conversation has made me SOOOO thankful for my church home! I love those folks😂😂😂😂

Thank you for your ministry,and truth bombs 💣 everywhere! much to consider and put into practice.

THIS WAS BEAUTIFUL. AMEN. BEAUTY FOR ASHES. ❤

PRAISE GOD for using yall to bring forth this message about The Church 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾❤❤❤ love y'all

This conversation is soooo good and necessary and wholesome!!! Thanks for sharing!

A much needed conversation! Minute by minute, both of you are giving great examples of what is needed in the body of Christ. One key takeaway for me was the importance of discipleship! I grew up learning that salvation is free, but discipleship cost everything. This conversation is EVERYTHING! I am grateful for true teachers like you both, you are relevant to the Kingdom!

Preach on preachers! I love your insights and depth of the Word

Thank you so much for addressing this

Sooo Good! Love this podcast So many good things talked about live when y’all get passionate

I trust in God and keep faith even as I struggle to take care of my children and myself. As a single mother things are so hard on me. Both of my sons are autistic I’m overwhelmed. God please hear my prayers. I’m constantly struggling to buy groceries and constantly struggling to pay rent and now that I’m home schooling my sons I’m struggling to buy their school supplies. I’m so ashamed and overwhelmed so please be kind. I choose to have faith over fear as christians that’s all we can do. No matter your struggle, we can turn to God. He knows us personally and can give us strength to overcome our challenges. Heavenly and merciful Father, I come before your glorious throne today, in humble adoration please help me overcome my struggles and my constant fear of homelessness. Walking with faith is all I can do! ❤

This was so very good! I'm very grateful that the Holy Spirit led you to have this talk! So helpful. Lord bless you both

One of the most powerful podcast I’ve watched!!! Whew!!!!

This was such a great conversation, God bless you both, your family and ministry 🙏🏾❤️

Thank you guys for these important talks. I really needed to be reminded of the importance of our church communities❤

Love your chemistry with each other and your sense of humor!! Love listening to y’all talk stuff out, super interesting to hear your thoughts 🙂

Saw this episode and binged all of the chapters in 2-3 days! Yo! AMAZING! It was beautifully put together! 💯❤️

We thank GOD for you both, and for this conversation that's deep on so many levels! The thought that "...great-sounding preaching is not necessarily doctrinally sound preaching..." is profound!!! GOD bless you all!

such wisdom! I recently moved and I visited a new church, and I am finding it very hard. You guys are so wise!!

Jacky that scripture you share in Acts 9, got me in tears! Soo good! Man I love the church.

Before you said his name, I was thinking of Tony Evans!!!! He is a Bible teacher. When I was in my beginning stages of learning God again, Dr. Evans really was good for me.

This is so precious.

0:22 😂😂😂 “uh naw I realize I can’t change it just go with it is” sooooo funny lol 😂

the color palette of this video is stunning. visually beautiful AND the word is good. I love it here.

YOu are so correct, Jackie! You are right on with social media is making it hard for the local pastor. I am having a hard time finding a local pastor that has the kind of teaching I have gotten from people like you, Tony Evans, Levi Lusko, Franis Chan, etc. It makes it hard to listen to someone that isn't on that same caliber.

This conversation is timely. I had so many questions about Church but after this there is some light. Thank you Both

Thank you both for your enjoyable discussion. I'm busy with so much negativity that taking time to step out of this war to just enjoy myself ,listening to sane people. Winning every battle is none the less devestating until this war is over. Never doubted our victory but forever seeking the largest "victory party" possible and that means holding on in the worst of times for even the worst " Ain'ts " .

Yes, I agree so much about what you guys are saying. It bothers me so much too Jackie because people need to be delivered and healed.

Amen 🙏 thank you. Finally!!! Yes this conversation is needed. We need to be pointed to Jesus Amen Thank you for sharing ❤

Thank you for addressing this

It make me wond up too!! That’s the prophet in you Jackie!!!

Wow you guy’s are speaking truth. The Spirit only speak truth and that is what I am hearing.

I dont normally comment but I am blown away by this season and the conversations and content...I love it and love yall. Every episode has been 🔥 and timely. Guys just keep going❤ Also in regards to worship I have been there where we want to hear what we like but then I realized its about me coming to worship God because He is worthy so I offer Him me and not about me coming to receive what I like and what I want to hear and its help shirt my perspective❤

I like this!!! Mrs Perry you saying things that everyone thinks but doesn’t say especially on a public platform. And Mr Perry you are giving a solution and understanding. I like how Mrs Perry you brought up friends who are in the word. Cuz I’m sure a lot of us feel like “ i watch RU-vid, i got friends, why do I need church.” It’s so real yall. Church is a whole entire topic that a lot of ppl struggle with but it’s still a place for communion, worship and fellowship for the body of Christ. Thanks 🫶🏾

I’ve been a Christian for a while now as I came to Christ around 18 years ago, and my experience with 90% of churches is that community didn’t play a part in it. Everyone smiled and gave high fives at church but during the week you heard from no one and then it was rinse/repeat on Sunday’s. When my son was born for example, no one was there for us from the church, even though we attended a megachurch at the time. In fact, I had more non Christian friends because to me and my family, they showed more genuineness than Christians in the church. My personal opinion is that it’s mainly because of familiarity within groups or “cliques” where Christians didn’t want to open up to newer people (as opposed to staying in the comfortable group they grew up with) is because it was a lot of work, at least this was my experience with most Christians. I’m now attending a church with my wife and children where we are blessed to have some community in the church, but the sad thing is that it took going to many churches in order to find a church that we could have community with. So I’ve written a song about it called “Community”, and here’s a link to my music video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WcpSfFnHXVI.htmlsi=iUSWrmkv-aKVE4R7 I’ve also explained the meaning behind my song “Community” in a video here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XMQGSpBF_Bk.htmlsi=Fo7zupKQYifq1t6H

Ohhhmygoshhh, lol!! STOP PLAYIN' WITH ME BOBBY was on repeat before I finally listened to the rest of this video. 😂😂😂

Excellent dialogue about the church. Many truths, discuss and expound upon. Thank you Carries for your commitment to the growth of the body of Christ. I pray your continued maturity and spiritual blessings. In Jesus name amen.

I loooove this conversation!❤❤❤❤

AMEN AND AMEN! THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS 🙏👏🇹🇹❤️

Listeennnnn this is gooooood I have a seen almost all of this in ministry but like you guys said believe in God an not man. To God be the glory for using you all this topic is needed.

So many points that y’all touched on personally resonated with me. It’s kind of crazy. I don’t think it’s coincidentally I’d pick this video to watch today.

Community is so important and essential in a Christian’s walk with Christ, being able to love on one another is helpful to see and to help on another in difficult times

Super excited and happy for you Maya and your new bundle of joy 😊. God bless you and your family. Welcome to the world Ezra ❤️

Love your hearts! Praying for almost a year now that our “seeker friendly” church would wake up to the truth you’re speaking about! 🙏🏻

This was absolutely timely. Since leaving my home church it’s been a struggle bc of all the things talked about and more. But I hope to find a solid church. Loved this episode. Thank you guys ❤️🙏🏾

Let’s go!! This convo was so on my wavelength. So similar to where my mindset and heartbeat has been and I’ve even done videos along these lines.. tell the truth guys!

I was introduced to Jackie on a Jude 3 project video and found her very insightful, powerful, and articulate. I have since shared Jude 3 and her to some of my circle. Now bring introduced to the both of you through a video you did with Dr. Eric Mason, I have been pulled into "With The Perry's". Continue to let your light shine that people may see your good works and glorify your Father who is in heaven.

I'm glad that she said this because I've been frustrated about the GOSPEL NOT being preached!!!

Great sharing. Shows me how blessed my life has been! And how much seemingly random decisions l've made have been, who to marry, what church to join, what friends to hang with. I look back over my 61 years and say wow! I had little to nothing to do with it, but GOD has kept me every step of the way. There was no formula for me in choosing my church home. It was simply the place to take root. I didnt even know what l was becoming a part of. Ive just been richly blessed. Thanks for this great sharing and encouragement.

This is such a well needed discussion. I always say that every sermon should be connected to the gospel. From Genesis to Revelation, it's all about Jesus!!

“Teach you how to look for God when you’re by yourself”💯💯💯