I bought a camera for like 30 to 45 bucks and recorded me while I slept. I used the eufy 2k indoor camera, that DOENST require a home base. There are two versions of it. Results were that my apneas were heavily position based. Virtually none on my right side, bad on my left, and really bad on my back. Just putting this out there because if you have sleep apnea you can use this to see if you have more of a positional issue. You can then purchase things that are actually really cheap to help you with apnea, like a pillow, backpack, or a sleep wedge thing that can force you to sleep on your sides instead of back, etc. I simply filled up a backpack with a ton of clothes, to keep me off my back. Also to confirm I got an old sleep study sent to me and it also revealed that I need twice the pressure on my back as my bad side. Also if your sleep apnea is worse on your back Im pretty sure that means its a tongue or jaw issue, meaning if you have trouble following asleep with a cpap on, a MAD device(moves jaw forward) alone could get rid of most of your apneas, if not all of them, since you cant make your tongue smaller necessarily but you can move your jaw out of its way, which could be the whole issue to begin with. I do have an overbite which means my jaw is not in the correct position. Its pushed back, the lower part is pushed back, which is likely the cause of my apneas, and many peoples.
Those mouthpieces that keep your jaw in place 100% worked for me, but also significantly shifted my bottom teeth within a couple months. Your teeth bear all the weight of your jaw.
Hello from America. I’m so happy to have found you on RU-vid!! I am very frustrated with my sleep apnea diagnosis here in the U.S. After THREE different pulmonary physicians here, no one can help me to try another source other than the cpap machine. It definitely helps but it is a constant struggle to use it. And unfortunately here, only a “pulmonologist” treats sleep apnea which of course is strictly related to pharmaceuticals (for insurance to help pay for the equipment and doctors visits.) Even dentist here will not see me to try a dental device and IF they did, I have to pay $1,000! Ridiculous! I hope to be able to at least try this device, as well as the other device I saw on your other video. (I registered for the newsletter and I am a subscriber.) Thank you and look forward to your reaching the 100k subscribers!!!
Did you end up finding a solution? I have tried CPAP for a month and I hate this thing. I cannot sleep with this thing on my head and face. Looking for options. Thanks!
Love love love your videos vik, so helpful with my journey through chronic illness, OSA and struggles with CPAP and MAD (and now looking at surgery and alternative therapies). Especially with discussing options with my ENT up north who sadly isn't as well versed on OSA. Looking forward to hearing more about zeus and will definitely be entering the prize draw!
That's very kind of you to say, thank you. There are amazing channels like CPAP reviews and the LankyLefty27 etc. that I think defo beat me. You ought to check them out.
Ordered with your discount, thanks. I snore very loudly on my back, but mostly sleep on my side and still snore ( quietly ..according to your excellent app). But I always wake up with a very dry mouth and often dehydrated and with a headache. I know there’s possibly other factors that also affect this but, mouth breathing all night has got to contribute. Fingers crossed this will work and then me and the wife might be able to sleep in the same bed again and I’ll wake up refreshed for a change.
well done, so amazing that you are working this out for yourself. you sound like you have blocked nose as well. I think you are getting there. keep going.
Hi Vik, I bought this device after watching your review ( I live in the US so I had a relative send it out from the UK) I do appreciate your videos and the generous advice you give to the public. I know you posted this review in good faith as you couldn't try it yourself, but this device is very disappointing indeed. I can't say it's made any difference at all. All that seems to happen is that the electrodes pulse against the skin so that it feels like a mild burn sensation. This doesn't translate through to the musculature in the tongue in any way at all, so it makes no practical difference at all. Basically it seems like a nice idea but as the electrical current doesn't go through to the muscles it doesn't work. I am 148lbs male with a neck size of 17" so it's not like I have a lot of cutaneous tissue there to increase electrical resistance. I can't recommend anyone buys this (and they won't take refunds either) BTW I can't see this getting FDA approval in its current form.
I'm really sorry it didn't work for you. I have had other people inform me that it didn't work for them. That was the reason I set up that poll on my community tab - I think it still says that 38% find it useful for them. Those aren't great odds, but if it is working for some people I figure it must have some merit. Again I'm sorry it didn't work for you, I hope you find something that does work.
I was thinking of having a UK friend of mine send one to me here in the US, so thank you for your review. I will keep.looking for alternatives. There are few options in America. I think the people in charge just want us to be sick and miserable while making them more wealthy by the day...
Hi! been using this back and forth in a month or so. First of all I will say that the company has excellent service and support and have been e-mailing back and forth. Second, you can have beard and use it, just shave the beard on the throat and keep it aligned with the jaw, thats how all influencers say one should have it anyway ;) Second for me I have quite small throath with some loose skin so when using it without an antisnoring strap (I designed my own since those buying was not suited and feeling comfty for me) it looses connection through the night and then no electricity. So for those simmilar as me, consider to use some kind of neckstrap, preferably thin and elastic to not put to much pressure on the device but keeping it in place. With that said I have mild sleep aponea, gone through surgery and have a custom made mad. I use the mad when using Zeus since it brings forward my throath/neck a bit that gives me some extra space for the device to be fitted, and for those nights when I dont have nose gognestion and it stays in place it works quite well actually. So as Vik says if your problems are mainly when sleeping on the back and you dont have to much stuffy nose it for sure is worth a try. Just be carfull with the fitting and do as Vik says ;) and also if needed use a chinstrap, mine is built out of part of face slimmer since they are thinner and you can acess the device easy when you are using it. if you have a big throath and no beard, go ahead, its worth it! :D
@@VikVeerENTSurgeon I have sleep apnea around 57 AHI. I need to contact you through NHS. I live in Saint Ives, Cambridgeshire. Any guidance how to reach you.
Thanks again Vik and I have sent your vids to my friends who suffer with osa! Brilliant that you are helping us with this problem, Love to be entered for the draw too and thanks again!
Thank you. trying to draw my polar bear NFT now. I want to do three. which charity do you think I should send the money too? I was going to send it to a clean up the oceans thing? thank you for looking at it!
Thank you! The one i'm doing now is in the artic / polar bear. So if you find a charity that will take Ethereum for polar bears / artic conservation then please let me know.
This really is interesting, I have had my tonsils out and laser treatment and two lots of tongue reduction surgery from you and I do think my sleep apnoea has improved. Unfortunately my wife tells me that I still snore. It may be worth me looking at this device. Thank you very much for taking the time to post these videos and email the newsletters, they are really informative.
I’m willing to have any surgery if it will correct my sleep apnea. I would even have my upper and lower jaw moved forward if it corrected it and the reviews are very good on that type of surgery. Vik is that possible on the nhs???I definitely have a tongue problem. What do you advise is the best thing to try?? I have mild sleep apnea but it’s affecting the quality of my life as I’m so fatigued and exhausted, the apneas give me debilitating migraines. I’m so exhausted,tired and zero energy, I was diagnosed with sleep apnea a month ago but it’s 5 months to be called by the sleep clinic then it’s only a phone consultation. I have depression and I’m struggling to cope with life and I feel so low so much so, I tried taking my own life a few yrs ago. I need help? What advice vik can you give me please?
@@juliaandrewjuju I can relate but I'm going on 23 YEARS with this problem! You heard that right. Have tried CPAP several times over the years with ZERO results. Imagine 23 years of feeling this way. All I get are doctor appointments, more sleep tests, etc only to then have a mask thrown at me and with a "good luck to you" type attitude. I'm normal weight, normal neck size, don't snore, don't wake up gasping for breath, yet I cannot get though a single day as a normal person or as I used to when I was in my 20's. Basically almost homebound roughly 3-4 days per week due to fatigue. After a nap, however, I can get by and do ok about half my days/life. My 1 hour nap feels better than my 8+ hours "asleep" at night. WHY?? Not good for someone in his 50's. NOBODY has told me WHY I have this problem, NOBODY has pinpointed WHERE or even IF I have an obstruction, NOBODY has much to say about my supposed "mixed" apneas with central apneas. NOBODY knows why my 1 hour nap feels better than my 8 hours at night. WHERE IS THE FIX FOR THIS?? WHERE IS A DOCTOR WHO KNOWS MORE THAN JUST GIVING A SLEEP TEST THEN RECOMMENDING A MACHINE? My sleep results always come back as "severe sleep apnea" with and AHI of roughly 37.0. Tired of being tired for the last 2+ decades! Rant over. :(
It is important to know the correct tongueposture during sleep, which is at the high palate. There are many videos on this on youtube, search for correct tongposture.
Dear Dr. Vik, I have had OSA for 2 decades. I’ve worn every kind of mask and still fight them and my chin strap every night. I hate using my cpap so much that I don’t use it at all. Even when I was using it regularly I didn’t wake up the next morning feeling rested. I was still tired throughout the day. At one point I was down to 145lbs, I’m 5’6” and my sleep apnea was just as bad. So losing weight didn’t help and now I’m back up to 175lb. I’m not a candidate for the dental device because I already have issues with my jaws and teeth. A review I read said specifically that Zeus is not for people with sleep apnea but there is an implant with the electrical impulses for OSA patients if the Zeus works the same, then what’s the difference? I’m so frustrated. I want to have surgery but don’t have the money or insurance. Any help you can give would be great, thanks.
A nurse, who is my friend told me to elevate the head of my bed. I put about 5 inches of wood blocks under the front legs of my bed. The very same night I did that, I started to dream, meaning I was going into deep sleep.
I think people are thinking that nasal / mouth breathing seems to affect dental structure rather than the other way round. I will think up a video to explain it one day.
An ENT told me it's not possible to snore with the mouth closed. (Of course I immediately made a snoring sound with my mouth closed.) Some of them just seem to want so badly for the patient to be an open-mouth loud chronic snorer no matter what the real problem is.
Interesting! I’ve worked out my jaw drops back and my tongue (I grind my teeth forwards and backwards). I use a Mandibular Advancement Device which can work as long as my nose isn’t stuffy! So much learning. Thank you.
Hi Vik. I'm currently using a MADs device to help with sleep apnoea, but am worried about it misaligning my teeth over time. Is there an alternative similar to this device, or another way to attach it for people with facial hair? Thank you
Hi there I have my punchbag removed back in 2009 painful operation to cure my snoring but it never really stopped me from snoring so very interested in this new device but it doesn’t actually say what the price is love to receive one free in your competition , watch one of your other videos on tongue exercises will give it a go look forward to watching more of them
I have Inspire implant but cannot get accustomed the continuous stimulations. I have since revert to using CPAP. My understanding before implant surgery was that device would detect respiratory pattern (because it has lead(s) running down to bottom of rib cage for this purpose) and stimulate ONLY when obstruction event is detected, not continuously regardless of detection. I think this design is flawed and should be changed if possible. The zeus device seems to operate same way as inspire. Besides the cost, I don’t see that it will help others like me who cannot tolerate the constant stimulation. Zeus may still help many I think considering the surgical cost of inspire implantation.
Thank you very much for this one Vik. Do you maybe have the opportunity to test Snore Circle Anti-snoring Device, which goes around the ear and stimulates the vagus nerve!? I emphasize that it is very comfortable to wear but is this one reduces snoring at all??
I couldn't do cpap, it felt like I was suffocating. The face mask and nasal mask. I cant sleep because 1. Overweight, obese fat leans on my lungs when I lie down and breathing is hard. 2. My nose blocks up when I lie down. 3. My bad hand hurts when I lean it on the bed. 4. Ive worked too many nights in the past. 5. Abuse from a step mother when I was 3, she would send me to bed between 4 and 5 o'clock everyday and I would lie there for ages. 6. Pain in my right thigh always when I lie down.
Thanks for the information I enjoy watching your content. Im always looking for something to try to help. I have OSA over 60. I cannot use cpap and go passive on bipap. Currently have somnodent and have enlarged tongue. Wondering if this might help even though i was told i was not a candidate for Inspire.
For the snoring issue, I start using tape. I tape my mouth shut. There's videos about how to apply the tape and which tape to use. My wife now is twice happy, no snore and keep my mouth shut, try the latter since I married!😂😂
@@VikVeerENTSurgeon Hello Dr Vik Veer, I just do sleep test and check I have OSA moderate.. it seems using iNAP is more better than use BiPAP ya...according to Singapore Doctor Assesment My Moderate Obstructive Sleep Apnea is the source which makes me have hypertension and arrythmia on my heart, If i have chance to visit you in London.. i really would love to visit you dearest Dr Vik Veer..so you could inspect me furtherly ^__^ and thank you, I signed up to your News Letter 😉
Thanks for your generous sharing of important information Dr. Veer. I haven’t had much luck with cpap or a mandibular advancement appliance. I may try Zeus, I can’t afford inspire. You are an outstanding teacher and have a very kind manner.
Love your videos doctor . I wish i can have this in US. Would you say this one works better than tounge retainer or mandibular device doc? If I have no problem using any of these and my concerns is just effectiveness what is my best options outside of surgery and cpap?
Thank you I look forward to all your videos … guess it’s another gadget I have to buy as my Partner said this morning I was snoring all night 🙈 I have sleep apnea 20 times an hour do you think it might work or at least help me a little ? CPAP caused panic attacks I just cannot tolerate it .. ps I snore when I am on my back ! 🤣🤦🏻♀️ take care and thank you again !
I'm so glad you are finding some value in these videos. Why not go to see a good sleep guy and get sorted properly? Not nice to be trying things like trial and error. your health deserves more. Do take care. Vik Veer
@@VikVeerENTSurgeon Hello thank you for replying to me 🙏… is their anyone you could suggest for me to see please I live in North Wales 🏴, I understand if you are not allowed to say , Liverpool and Manchester are an hour away … I would travel to see you but I imagine you are inundated with requests of help … I guess my bottom line is I’m scared of dying in my sleep , and as I am not on any treatment because I have to wait to be seen by a maxillo facial consultant for a mandibular device since CPAP didn’t suit me ….. I really don’t know what or who to see so I would be so grateful if you could advise in anyway of who I could see thank you so very much 🙏🤞
I noticed I have snoring which worsened with my weight gain. And I also have enlarge tonsils probably grade 2. But I was advice from removing my tonsils for now and try to manage my weight. Sometimes I still woken by loud snoring, but I do snore daily (recorded by app) Wonder is this will be useful to me..
I have been diagnosed with OSA, and I'll have to sleep in some horrible device, that I might not be able to tolerate. It is not natural. I was happy to find this device, but sadly Zeus is not currently listed as a medical device to assist Obstructive Sleep Apnea (OSA). The results of home polygraphic test are; AHI 25.8/h, MinSpO 64% AverSpO2 89% MinHR 63/min MaxHR 95/min AverHR 89%.pattern is phasic, not dependent upon posture.
I just bought this and tried for the first time last night. I had it on the lowest setting and it still woke me up once it had started. Then my whole body was tingling from the electrical current so was impossible to get to sleep. I had to turn it off. Will try again but not impressed so far.
Can't buy it. On their site it has been out of stock for ages. Is there any news on this one? Any additional research. So far every single review I have seen by real users is very negative.
@@VikVeerENTSurgeon Thx for your swift response. May it is an idea to add a text to this video so people no longer look for it, or, if it is available again won't take your video as a kind of support from a professional for this device.
Thank you, Vik Veer. Just ordered one from Germany, which will hopefully help with mild OSA that keeps happening when lying on my back. You mentioned three main reasons for OSA which were tounge, large tonsils and (?) hypoglossal (?). Could you maybe share an article on that. I plan to get a DICE done to learn what I have. Thank you. Julius
That looks excellent and I'm fairly certain it would work for me. My only concern is the ongoing cost of the gel pads which have to be changed every day. Do you think it's possible they might come up with pads which can be used for longer?
Businesses love a subscription model, I doubt it will change. On the other hand if it goes well then I'm sure a 3rd party will make something cheaper. what about a knightsbridge chin strap? no idea if that would work?
@@VikVeerENTSurgeon Thanks, I've ordered one and will let you know how it goes! I'll check if it's possible to use the gel pads for more than one day which would lower the cost a lot. A mouthguard works really well for me and I may end up alternating it with that.
I received the Zeus device and have tried it for a couple of nights. I must say it's very sleek and nicely designed with smart packaging. There are 7 or 8 levels and the instructions say to turn it up until you can feel something and then turn it down one level. It's best to do this in front of a mirror so you can see the flashing light which tells you what level you're on. The first night I couldn't feel anything at all so left it at maximum but I still didn't feel it so I wasn't convinced it was working at all. I've no idea why this was as the next night I could actually feel it, a pulsing gentle tingling/pricking where the electrodes were attached. The "gel pads" are sticky to attach to your skin and have small circular pads of conductive gel over the electrodes. They do stick quite well but only for one night. I think they probably are reusable as the gel itself should last longer but you would have to attach the device using surgical tape. I tried it and it does attach securely that way and the electrodes still work. In terms of results, I monitor and record snoring overnight using an app (Snoreclock) and it did seem to have a small effect on snoring loudness but not on duration. It's difficult to be conclusive after such a short trial but I can say that the £25 adjustable Mandibular Advancement Device I've been using is way more effective for me as it virtually eliminates snoring completely. On the other hand, the mouthguard is a bit uncomfortable whereas the Zeus is very light and unintrusive. I'm going to carry on experimenting with it, perhaps moving it slightly to see if it works better. IMO, it's worth trying in conjunction with the exercises you've recommended, especially for anyone who can't tolerate a mandibular advancement device.
Hi Dr. Veer, I have a DISE in just a few weeks but I'm in the US and they said they're not allowed to send to me I think because of the FDA. I really want to try this
Hi Dr Vik, Thank you for sharing the info about this device. I was wondering if you know something about O2Vent Optima jaw advancement splint with connection for CPAP. I just heard about it, but can't find objective source of information that supports the claims of the distributor. Cheers
Does this work for severe sleep Apnea? Can it replace a CPAP machine. Seems not in this case . Interesting to hear a distinction between tongue induced snoring and other causes . I think severe Apnea is more complex ? Any views ?
I really need help for my sleep apnea, but I'm not sure you're saying this device will help prevent the sleep stoppage. How do I buy one and is there a return guarantee ??
Can you help me Vik, I'm thinking of buying this or iNAP, it seems to me that both have to do with keeping the tounge from collapsing, would you say iNAP is a better and safer option or rather that I go for Zeus?
I think I have a tongue problem as I have got tonsils out and have dental appliance for jaw aswell but still have some bit of sleep apnea. This new device looks good
Hi doctor ,when i got a cold My nose is blocked by mucus and this lasts for a period of up to about two weeks or more and this is annoying, can you give me a medicine that discourages the secretion of mucus and dries my nose
I’m getting my first cpap machine next week. I hqve figured out that my tongue is causing my snoring. “Tongue suction” and mouthpiece have eliminated snoring but tremendously uncomfortable causing me to wake up. If I stop snoring I continue breathing, correct? This looks far more comfortable.
depending on your AHI it sounds like a mandibular advancement device would be appropriate. That has more evidence for it, but yes your research would suggest that this Zeus device is more likely to work in your case.
Good day, came across your channel, stopped and started watching. I would love to believe that the Zeus device is effective against snoring. Your video was posted 2 years ago and the the Zeus website posts the item completely out of stock. Do you know if it's still on the market and if it has proven to be successful or if there's updated research? I'm in France and noone here has heard of it, at least not to my knowledge.
Is it possible to use the Zeus? along with the iNAP at the same time to fix both sleep apnea and snoring at the same time? Or does the iNAP take care of both?
It's based on good science and research, but I've not managed to get mine to work at all and I've not heard anyone that managed to get it to work for them.
Vik, I have Oromandibular Dystonia and Sleep Apnea. I also use a CPAP machine. My mouth and tongue have muscle contractions where my mouth opens which are very difficult to control. I have used a Knightsbridge chin guard, which works better than all of the other chin guards I've used, but it's still not working as the velcro isn't strong enough and doesn't keep my mouth from opening. I am looking for a better solution. I'm trying a mouth guard that's molded to my mouth, but not sure if it's going to work. Do you have any suggestions on how to keep my mouth closed since I get dry mouth and my OD tends to happen when I sleep, which wakes me up. Please help!! Thank you.
I’m sorry if I ask u this again about your loss of smell but when u commented in your video about regaining all back does that mean it’s 100%? Or close? Can u smell everything?
By “sends an electric signal” I assume you just mean it is shooting electricity into our body? Hopefully it is a relatively small amount. Does it do that the entire time it is on? If so, one important difference from the implant devices is, those detect when you begin snoring, and only then send the signal. You are not receiving an unnatural electric signal 8 hours a night for the rest of your life. I’m concerned this could eventually give people throat cancer or have some other side effect. Sort of like how having a phone in your pocket all the time can give you cancer because of the heat it produces.
If my blood oxygen level never really dips much at night below ideal levels does it matter if I have apnea? I do snore so this device is still interesting to me.
It looks like a promotional video for the ZEUS device, a lot of pseudo-scientific information but not even one word on real results. If he wants to be credible like he is trying to sound, he needs to show how it works in real-time and bring results before and after or with or without the ZEUS. Snoring is a very measurable phenomenon and it should not be too difficult to show the measurable effect of the device.
Can you theoretically work out why I have sleep apnea? I keep saying the problem is mainly at the back of my nose but they have given me a brace for the second time (the first from 10 years ago didn’t fit in my mouth anymore). It has helped a little - I don’t wake myself up so much from my snoring - but I still get nightmares that I am suffocating, in fact they are quite possibly worse as I have woken up a couple of times just seconds before it feels like I am dying. My brace keeps coming off when I sleep though the doctor told me it was on firmly so I am thinking perhaps I force my mouth open to try to get more air in seeing as my nose is completely blocked. They are ordering me a more tightly fitting brace anyway but if my theory is right I am scared I won’t be able to get any air in at all during sleep. They have looked in my nose and though there is nothing blocking (when I am upright during the day) they do say I have very tiny nose holes. My husband reckons I should put tubes down my nose at night but I think this would be uncomfortable and unsafe.
Matthew- I was able to get one (plus a ton of gel pads) shipped to the US by using Skypax shipping. It took a little bit of a leap of faith and was quite expensive, but hopefully will be worth it in the long run as the mandibular advancement mouth guard is hard for me to deal with.
I have been using the zeus device for a week now . Sticky pads are not working great . Device keeps falling off and sometimes the device is not on when I wake up during the night don't if it shuts off . No light is flashing
Sticky pads didn’t work for me but I wasn’t using them properly! The light ly sticky side goes on the device, the heavily sticky side goes on your face! Spent 10 mins cleaning glue off the device with a cotton bud and nail varnish remover. Duh!
Hello - you did a very short short on RU-vid or TikTok about a black device that has two loops that hook around your ears and rests under the chin and helps stimulate the tough to help stop sleep apnea and or snoring - what is that device called ? And will you do a review on it anytime soon? Thx
@@VikVeerENTSurgeon Hello - That’s actually why I was reaching out as I can no longer find the video on any platform - It was actually you in the video talking about it - The device has like a Apple Watch face (digital) with the two straps that go around your ears and it rests under your chin and keeps track of ur sleep etc - If I do find it I will send you the link - Thank You
I had a relative from the UK send it out to me (in NJ). But I wouldn't waste your time, the thing doesn't work at all. It literally does nothing except make a slight burn sensation on the skin. This doesn't go through to the muscles in the tongue in any way so it's basically useless.
