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A Serious Warning to All Ford, Subaru, and Nissan Owners (This Fatal Flaw Can Destroy Your Engine) 

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Ford, Nissan, and Subaru car owners. A Serious Warning to All Ford, Subaru, and Nissan Owners (This Fatal Flaw Can Destroy Your Engine), DIY and car review with Scotty Kilmer. Ford vs Subaru vs Nissan engine trends, which is worse. Worst car trends. Here's why water pumps driven by a timing chain are a terrible design that car manufacturers are doing in cars and trucks. Top car trends that need to go away in 2020. Modern car fails. Car Advice. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 52 years.
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@scottykilmer
@scottykilmer 4 года назад
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@masternobody1896
@masternobody1896 4 года назад
where is the new video in the 2nd channel scotty i cant wait
@halftrackmind5838
@halftrackmind5838 4 года назад
They just want you to time the maintenance properly. L.O.L
@joshuahinojosa2103
@joshuahinojosa2103 4 года назад
Scotty does my 2005 5.4l v8 F-150 fall under this category for water pump change?
@larryd4352
@larryd4352 4 года назад
@Scotty Kilmer I have a 2008 Ford Edge with that 3.5 L V6 engine. The engine has 159k miles on it, and I have it serviced regularly...Oil Changes every 3 months, had Transmission fluid & filter changed at 125k miles...and only repairs it's ever had was the fan assembly replaced back in August of 2019. My mechanic just changed my oil last week...said the oil was just fine...my transmission fluid looked brand new...and when I had my Texas Inspection done in October, my mechanic...who also does Inspections....said my emissions were less than some new cars. My question is, beside the oil being milky looking, what sounds should I listen for? My Edge has never leaked any fluid...and even when the fan assembly stopped working...it happened at my apartment complex...so I just had it towed to my mechanic. It never overheated...I just noticed when I turned off the engine that the electric fan didn't stay on. Thanks for all the excellent information!
@onpsxmember
@onpsxmember 4 года назад
Put the link all the way up in the description as well so it's visible without extending it. Great stuff. I still miss the Bell.
@doktorb3at
@doktorb3at 4 года назад
My shop teacher once said that car manufacturers are not in the car business. They're in the parts business. Now it makes all sense.
@lorenzomoore6398
@lorenzomoore6398 4 года назад
That do make a lot of sense.
@nodak81
@nodak81 4 года назад
If that were true they'd make a much greater effort to keep parts in production and available. There are already parts for my '08 Taurus that are listed as "discontinued" by the dealer.
@bernie5642
@bernie5642 4 года назад
Nodak81 ya so you have to spend more money on newer parts
@rubear1848
@rubear1848 4 года назад
Your shop teacher had his finance cap on I see. Most people don't know the game. Everyone likes new, we just give a reason to upgrade, so be thankful for modern design.
@maxinnn1
@maxinnn1 4 года назад
@@nodak81 becuse now they want You to Buy a new car with more expensive parts
@ZImpresive
@ZImpresive 4 года назад
Me 4 Years ago: "Yes the engine is made out of engine" Me Today: "The water pump is where? Who in the hell designed this???"
@i-love-comountains3850
@i-love-comountains3850 4 года назад
Haha😂👍
@chriskonte1909
@chriskonte1909 4 года назад
Same :D
@Goabnb94
@Goabnb94 4 года назад
Old Subarus: Lets make the cabin filter right behind the glove box so they only need to take that off to replace it. Mid 2000's Subarus: Lets keep it in the same place, but make them having to disassemble half the dash and trim to get to it.
@philipcooper8297
@philipcooper8297 4 года назад
Maybe, in the next 4 years, you'll realise it's not a water pump.
@SupraBdub
@SupraBdub 4 года назад
@@philipcooper8297 lol
@donaldhollums3278
@donaldhollums3278 4 года назад
Automotive engineers should be made to work on everything they design into their products.
@jimpie231
@jimpie231 4 года назад
Donald Hollums great idea....I was a test engineer for a wholesaler that resold the products they bought.....but who does this on cars? Jim
@jimpie231
@jimpie231 4 года назад
Donald Hollums sorry.....Consumers Report does this. I you look up their magazines & yearly issue you’ll see that agree with Scotty! Jim, again
@JM-qr8qz
@JM-qr8qz 4 года назад
German engineers will quit after a day.
@djo9c1
@djo9c1 4 года назад
Blame the bean counters who are concerned about squeezing every possible penny of cost out, not allowing engineers to implement the best designs.
@rickardk
@rickardk 4 года назад
@@djo9c1 I'd blame the stock holders
@crazyjames9460
@crazyjames9460 4 года назад
"People were created to be loved. Things were created to be used. The reason the world is in chaos, is because things are being loved and people are being used" John Green
@wonderbreadjumps
@wonderbreadjumps 4 года назад
I love my water pump.
@crazyjames9460
@crazyjames9460 4 года назад
@@notadoctor2598 where are you from? Just curious 😉
@laurieannrodriguez4551
@laurieannrodriguez4551 4 года назад
Awsome, dude! That beautiful!
@drx1xym154
@drx1xym154 4 года назад
We are all spirits* in a material world. * - Void where prohibited. Your mileage will vary.
@mannyrosado9887
@mannyrosado9887 4 года назад
Love this quote!
@chrisgoddard8892
@chrisgoddard8892 4 года назад
That feeling when you make it through a Scotty video without your car being included.
@isaiahvaloryn4849
@isaiahvaloryn4849 4 года назад
Hey Scotty, I've been watching your videos for about 8-9 years, I'm 21 right now and currently training to become a mechanic and I just wanted to thank you for passing on the knowledge you gave man. I knew a lot before I enrolled in school for it thanks to you. Hope you're being safe during this virus madness.
@scottykilmer
@scottykilmer 4 года назад
Hello, thank you that means a lot, stay safe as well!
@EMichaelBall
@EMichaelBall 4 года назад
I'd look into being an electrician, plumber, or HVAC tech, because as cars get more computerized, auto makers are going to go more and more in-house (dealership-only) for repairs. It's already happening with John Deere, Tesla, and FCA. No ability to go independent removes leverage for employees to negotiate wages and benefits = Not Good. To see the worst-case scenario from a car mechanic's standpoint, RU-vid "Tony Seba robin hood conference", and watch that presentation.
@isaiahvaloryn4849
@isaiahvaloryn4849 4 года назад
@@EMichaelBall I already have my I.T Certificates for Hardware, Software and Networking. I did my research and I handled those first because of the fact that most modern cars are heavily computer based. Especially these new hybrid and electric cars coming out. Thanks for the advice though I suppose.
@donaldhollums3278
@donaldhollums3278 4 года назад
Isaiah Valoryn I’m a long time Petrolhead, an automotive DIYer and I do automotive repair work on the side of my full time job. There is a great satisfaction of getting up to your armpits in car to make a repair and see the vehicle running or driving the way it should. I hope it takes you forty or more years to get tired of that. On top of that you have opportunity to help out customers like Kilmer’s who don’t want to be ripped off, but just to have their car fixed to keep going to work or keep on with their lives.
@lightning9279
@lightning9279 4 года назад
@@EMichaelBall JD is spending millions on lobbyist to send them to speak against consumers and third parties right to repair JD products and electionics.
@IsaacJohn
@IsaacJohn 4 года назад
Year 2050: scotty: my celica still runs fine it's good as new
@raymondsmith6315
@raymondsmith6315 4 года назад
.....and it STILL has only 240,000 miles.
@carlthefriendlyllama2126
@carlthefriendlyllama2126 4 года назад
He could buy a Jaguar and have it be just as reliable.... Because he never drives his personal car!
@octiviancastle6245
@octiviancastle6245 4 года назад
@@carlthefriendlyllama2126 poorly built cars break down even from sitting unlike good quality built cars you can keep it sitting for years and come back hook up a battery and it starts right up
@t6hp
@t6hp 4 года назад
@@carlthefriendlyllama2126 I guarantee you out of experience with a friend's Jaguar, the Jaguar will cost you more as a lawn ornament, than driving a Lexus daily.
@timothykeith1367
@timothykeith1367 4 года назад
In 2050 Scotty's Celica and B52s still in use
@LostBeetle
@LostBeetle 4 года назад
Imagine how many misdiagnosis of a blown head gasket must have happened because of this too.
@dewmontain123
@dewmontain123 4 года назад
on the subie they change the gaskets the water pump and timing belt all together. at the dealership of course
@brooks1176finn
@brooks1176finn 4 года назад
They test for exhaust gasses in the system
@LrulestheworldM8
@LrulestheworldM8 4 года назад
As a defender of the Oldsmobile Quad 4, I can properly say that this did cause a lot of issues, and the pancake batter issue with the baffles didnt help matters either. Id wadger that a few thousand Quad 4 cars were repaired because of these known problems before some dope head figured out it wasnt a head gasket problem. But by that time, the damage had already been done. And to this day, idiots on the internet blame the Quad 4s issues on blown head gaskets. In my personal experience, very rarely, if ever, does a quad 4/twin cam car lose a head gasket. And if it does, its usually user error because they dont perform the proper maintenance.
@bobbymayyy
@bobbymayyy 4 года назад
in interference engines your engine will blow or lock up if your water pump fails and your engine is out of time. kind of a huge difference
@borism1990
@borism1990 4 года назад
Blown head is a term for a multiple problems. Which in simpler language means - you are screwed.
@coiledsteel8344
@coiledsteel8344 4 года назад
A Timing Chain Driven Water Pump? Stupid Design, made to increase Stealership bottom lines!
@fouellet1701
@fouellet1701 4 года назад
Makes room in the engine compartment, but causes your engine to fail... All vehicles I owned for the last 40 years needed a new water pump at some time. Luckily, all had an external water pump!
@DallasBryant-rw1oh
@DallasBryant-rw1oh 3 года назад
FORD BUILDS' JUNK !!!!!!! 777, PROVE ME WRONG !!!!!!!
@SitesThatSuck
@SitesThatSuck 4 года назад
Scotty's videos are great. I like to turn off the volume while watching and then crank some Mozart. He's the most amazing conductor. Give it a shot!
@Trev9
@Trev9 4 года назад
I'm going to do it. It's hilarious
@jamesbillet8954
@jamesbillet8954 4 года назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@a2cryss
@a2cryss 3 года назад
Are you me?
@MrWeareone777
@MrWeareone777 2 года назад
Lol 😂
@DenversMac
@DenversMac 4 года назад
Maybe they should start calling references when these engineers apply for a job 🤣
@69eddieD
@69eddieD 4 года назад
They don't care what happens after the warranty ends.
@timkaldahl
@timkaldahl 4 года назад
I think the bigger problem is design by accountants.
@msnpassjan2004
@msnpassjan2004 4 года назад
@@timkaldahl Accountants just do what the executives tell them to do
@sylvainmichaud2262
@sylvainmichaud2262 4 года назад
@@msnpassjan2004 "Accountants just do what the executives tell them to do." Exactly, what the Nazis told to the tribunal as a defense at the Nuremberg trial. They still got a guilty verdict and got hung. Everybody would think twice before following orders if that's was the case. "Hey, I might lose my job but heck, I'll survive (in the literal sense)."
@msnpassjan2004
@msnpassjan2004 4 года назад
@@sylvainmichaud2262 By that logic everyone who has a job would be in jail for the crimes of the executive.
@collegeboytwo
@collegeboytwo 4 года назад
Sounds to me like a Cash Cow for car dealership Service Department !
@rubear1848
@rubear1848 4 года назад
Correction, its just a reason for people to upgrade. Who doesn't like new and shinny? Get with the times, forward thinking is what makes American great!!
@nissancubesdashboardpubes8026
@nissancubesdashboardpubes8026 4 года назад
@@rubear1848 "upgrade" as in spending $30k every 4 years because car companies can't be fucked keeping parts in stock or making everything sealed and unreplaceable? I'd rather not.
@bigdorkification
@bigdorkification 4 года назад
Correct. Dealerships make most of their money from workshop repairs. And manufacturers need dealerships in order to sell cars. So manufacturers make things labour intensive so the dealerships can charge more for repairs...or sell them a new car.
@dutsroh
@dutsroh 4 года назад
@@bigdorkification I wish you can just order your car on the internet directly from the manufacturer
@aaronhumphrey2009
@aaronhumphrey2009 4 года назад
The 2008- on cars/trucks are especially hard to work on & have serious design flaws/obsolescence built-in. Now if a new vehicle builder came along , able to field a well-designed, reliable, and easily user-servicable product, would that change the paradigm, or would "the big three ( Ford, Chevy Dodge)"gang up and destroy the upstart competition, like they did with Tucker Motors ?
@LouisWritingSomethingCrazy
@LouisWritingSomethingCrazy 4 года назад
So the engine is designed to break five to eight years after they're made. Sounds like every major car corporation's dream come true right there.
@YarbrayL
@YarbrayL 4 года назад
Especially just in time for the warranty to run out. In hopes you trade that car in for a new one because they convince people that it’s not worth the money to fix it.. might as well buy a new car 😏
@GeneralSirDouglasMcA
@GeneralSirDouglasMcA 4 года назад
Hoped Honda and Toyota are the exception.
@rubear1848
@rubear1848 4 года назад
You need to get with the times buddy. Forwards thinkers giving people a reason to upgrade, I means who doesn't like new and shinny?
@slathian1223
@slathian1223 4 года назад
@@GeneralSirDouglasMcA remember kia/hyundai will last at least 11-12 years and normally use the old school designs for simplistic fixing due to the 10 year warranty
@thebubbacontinuum2645
@thebubbacontinuum2645 3 месяца назад
It's a great system worthy of the Big Three. You sell people cars that self-destruct in a few years, you make some money on parts and repairs, and then they leave you forever and buy Toyotas. Then you get the taxpayers to lend you more money.
@tomb375
@tomb375 4 года назад
Scotty can you please list these cars with the chain driven water pump so I NEVER buy one! Thank you.
@ptrollan
@ptrollan 4 года назад
Thank You Scotty for the warning !!! We the people are tired of all there junk !!!
@gregorbabic7664
@gregorbabic7664 4 года назад
Easy on us engineers Scotty. I can pretty much guarantee that the people driving these design changes are not engineers but being driven to do this by program managers or bean counters. The true engineers doing the true design are probably bitting their tongues while they are forced to do this.
@DAN007thefoxx1
@DAN007thefoxx1 4 года назад
I hear ya. I hear about stuff like this happening not only in the automotive industry but also the video games industry as well. Electronic Arts has a very long history of forcing developers to rush their games (DICE included), buying up small companies just to put them under, and more recently the whole battlefield 5 reveal scandal in which they over politicize a World War 2 game that has women prominently featured in places where it was rare for them to be at the time, then said "don't like it don't buy it". And BF5 is still a broken mess of a game with barely any content to this day.
@jonathandech2389
@jonathandech2389 4 года назад
K
@jonathandech2389
@jonathandech2389 4 года назад
@@DAN007thefoxx1 k
@handlesaredumb1
@handlesaredumb1 4 года назад
All engineers should have two representatives of who will be performing maintenance on the product involved. The Navy was the same way, some desk jockey whose never even been on a submarine telling us "It will fit, it will work". It didn't most of the time. Now it's the same in the HVAC trade.
@davidwomack5982
@davidwomack5982 4 года назад
That may be so, but engineers give their degrees away by allowing this nonsense. The car manufacturers use their degrees for show, and pay them to keep their mouths shut otherwise. It’s all about how far they can go to save a penny....
@ateam6486
@ateam6486 4 года назад
they sell a lot of motors this way, my local car parts store seems to always have a motor waiting for delivery with that kind of water pump system,
@steveb.6267
@steveb.6267 4 года назад
Best advice I’ve heard in a long time. Don’t buy a car with known design faults.
@westdccs
@westdccs 4 года назад
Following this advice, then I should never buy a car. They all have design faults (both known and unknown). Some are better designed than others, but eventually, given enough time, every car will have a failure at some point in it's life. And most often, not during the warranty period.
@kevinwilson9589
@kevinwilson9589 4 года назад
It's such a shame Studebaker went out of business all those years ago.
@Mote78
@Mote78 4 года назад
“They don’t care if it breaks down and you have to buy a new one, that’s what they want!” So true. Scotty’s tells it like it is. Know what you’re buying and maintain your car.
@cherbear2898
@cherbear2898 Год назад
True
@trevorjameson3213
@trevorjameson3213 4 года назад
This is exactly why I still have my 15 year old Chevy truck with an old school cast iron 4.3 V6. Very simple, tough design, easy to work on, cheap parts replacement.
@Nordic_Mechanic
@Nordic_Mechanic 4 года назад
a 1988 to 1998 chevy truck and a ford crown victoria are the most reliable vehicules I ever owned
@NoNo-in5tu
@NoNo-in5tu 4 года назад
Hope you don't have those damn poppet valves for fuel delivery. My 2000 did. Wouldn't start as soon as the fuel pressure was too low
@Czechmate.z
@Czechmate.z 4 года назад
poor mpg 12-14 at its best. The 5.3 dose better 16-18 mpg .I had a 4.3 in a 2007 silverado classic ( standard cab short bed) with a standard trans .
@notadoctor2598
@notadoctor2598 4 года назад
Yeah. That is why.
@chrishuber8930
@chrishuber8930 4 года назад
Trevor those are garbage motors. They last but garbage power and poor mpg
@thomasblaine3193
@thomasblaine3193 4 года назад
Sounds like an intentional design flaw to limit engine life.
@larrysouthern5098
@larrysouthern5098 4 года назад
Yep......
@davesmith2733
@davesmith2733 4 года назад
Its working
@MainMite06
@MainMite06 4 года назад
Thomas Blaine "sounds intentional "-doesnt equal- "absolutely intentional" Ford DOHC V6s(Mazda V6), & Nissan VQ, Vk, & VR engines were derived from timing belt engines that left the water pump *inside* the timing cover to *save exterior space*. Ford V6s & Nissan V6-V8 engines arent known for having their timing chain water pump failing very early in life. Ive met plenty of Ford standard & Ecoboost 3.0-3.7L V6s that had never been opened in over 250K miles I have plenty of friends who crossed 230-250k miles in Nissan V6s & V8s & had never the front of the engine opened.... If both the Ford & Nissan owners had to open their timing covers... It would be after 13-15 years of service!
@wildcoyote34
@wildcoyote34 4 года назад
@Thomas Blaine you might think that but it's far from true ,,Pontiac had the Quad 4 back in the early 90s and it has a timing chain driven water pump ,,those engines easily reached 250K miles if maintained ,,and GM recommended replacing the timing chain and tensioners at 150K miles ,and they also suggest replacing the water pump at that time due to the complexity of the job another engine of this design is the follow on engine to the QUAD-4 the GM ECO-Tec engine ,,millions of GM cars from 2002 till today , all of GMs small cars used this engine for most of the last 18 years ,,my sister had a 2003 chevy Cavalier that made 256,000 miles before a balance shaft broke inside the engine
@wildcoyote34
@wildcoyote34 4 года назад
@Ernest Cazenave I personally dislike the Ecotec engine , my primary reason for this is it's TINY cartridge oil filter ,,we never had any of the commonly associated problems that Ecotecs normally have ,specifically the headgasket problem ,it ran perfectly up till the day it broke ,only thing i ever did to it was maintenance ,oil/filter every 3500-4000 miles and filter every 2000,airfilter every 20K ,sparkplugs at 100K and again at 200K,,it had a habit of using 1 quart of oil between changes that never got worse ,,when the motor died my sister just bought another car rather than fixing it cause the then 14 year old car just wasn't worth spending $1500 on a used engine
@randycarter2001
@randycarter2001 4 года назад
Not just break. The first failure is the shaft seal starts to leak. So for months you have coolant dripping into the oil. Unless you're checking the oil daily you'll miss the start of the leak. Since water is heavier than oil it will sink to the bottom and be the first thing the oil pump sucks up. Bye bye engine. Bye bye car.
@kingconan9271
@kingconan9271 3 года назад
Wild
@jeremyclifton1168
@jeremyclifton1168 4 года назад
It’s a trap......bleh, think I’ll just stick to older vehicles, that way when it breaks I can figure out how to fix it
@ChaosBeforeOrder
@ChaosBeforeOrder 4 года назад
I swear
@supadupa6891
@supadupa6891 4 года назад
And cheaper to fix, cheaper parts
@fouellet1701
@fouellet1701 4 года назад
Good advice! An easy way of knowing if the car you are looking to buy has an internal water pump is to look at a spare parts web site. If the pump has a pulley (to receive a rubber belt) it's external, if it has a cogwheel, it's internal.
@oldowl4290
@oldowl4290 2 года назад
Great Tip for sure!!!
@fredreno3258
@fredreno3258 Год назад
Excellent advice!
@hearmonheardjr8065
@hearmonheardjr8065 Год назад
Great tip
@liblib89
@liblib89 4 года назад
The VQ series V6s are considered some of the best engines on the market, some of the best B6s on the market. Also the water pumps never really gives these vehicles problems and they can be replaced without taking much apart.
@michaelpedde2313
@michaelpedde2313 4 года назад
It's called "Planned Obsolescence"
@shawnhampshirehick101
@shawnhampshirehick101 4 года назад
Yes it is.
@eddydavid7025
@eddydavid7025 4 года назад
@@shawnhampshirehick101 The backbreaker to PO was the Engineers were designing on life cycles to match new car loan repayment financing of 36-48 months. By the time the engineering designs got into production of new models, price inflation required extension of the loan repayment periods to 60 months and now 72 months or more. Therefore the vehicle is worn out before it is half-paid for. The result is absolutely accountant stupidity in the Board Room-like fish, corporations die from the brain, not the tail.
@notadoctor2598
@notadoctor2598 4 года назад
@@eddydavid7025 Agreed. It is tough to build a car for people who realistically should be on foot, a bus, or a bike.
@ericvaria7807
@ericvaria7807 4 года назад
Does toyota have it ? Maybe but not so shameless 👍
@Jaymac720
@Jaymac720 4 года назад
My car has the big three issues Interference Timing belt Belt driven water pump That timing belt makes me nervous every day
@chuckd.7048
@chuckd.7048 4 года назад
I had a Mustang 4 cyl., timing belt broke at 30,000 miles
@wkroutz
@wkroutz 4 года назад
Easy change the timing belt every second service. If you ever need to replace a water pump check where the timing marking are then highlight it with a white marker the positions of the pulleys.
@NETWizzJbirk
@NETWizzJbirk 4 года назад
Jay Mac did they put it in the oil too
@PumaPete
@PumaPete 4 года назад
Charles Dewey wow! What a lame thing to happen at only 30K miles. I used to be a ford fan but after my last fiasco with them and my wife’s escape, I’ll never buy another one!
@ronfazer2423
@ronfazer2423 4 года назад
I used to inspect my timing belt (top cover) once a year. It took me about 20 minutes. It gave me piece of mind. I never changed my belt or water pump. It was supposed to be changed at 60,000 I went to 150,000 when the trans went out and sold it. 2003 Elantra.
@jbalogh01
@jbalogh01 4 года назад
I enjoy my 1990 chevy pickup. Everything's easy to fix and still relatively cheap.
@colinjohnston5734
@colinjohnston5734 4 года назад
I had a 91 Silverado RWD and it was an amazing city truck when I lived in Ottawa for a few years and not even that bad on gas. Not good but not bad
@coffwalt7038
@coffwalt7038 4 года назад
@@colinjohnston5734 p
@robertblake1032
@robertblake1032 4 года назад
I’ve changed my water pump twice 05 Ram 2500
@carlossantiago8321
@carlossantiago8321 4 года назад
I've had 2 used s10 Blazers both were easy to repair both surpassed 200k im in Northern Illinois so the bodies rusted away. Im now on my third Blazer w 130k
@starcloakstarside9719
@starcloakstarside9719 4 года назад
Amused. I had a friend who loved his Chevy pickup. ...Until the engine throttle randomly opened to full just before the bearings ceased and it locked up in the middle of winter and threw him off the road, killing him and his entire family. And I know what happened because I was requested by his extended family to see what happened. Engine oil was good, oil sump was good. It really just wanted to kill him. So there’s your cheap Chevy for you.
@BoomAlleyDrums
@BoomAlleyDrums 4 года назад
Scotty, this happened to my 2008 Nissan Frontier. My mechanic removed the front of the engine to access the timing chain (as you stated). The whine I was hearing was actually created by the plastic tensioner head being scraped over by the tensioner chain which wore away the plastic head of the pin. Which by the way, Nissan found out that (later), the plastic, when exposed to lubrication, softened it, which diminished the life of the part. $1,500 bucks later, through research, I find out Nissan has a class action suit against them for this design flaw.
@timboslice1979
@timboslice1979 4 года назад
"Oh yeah I'm getting better gas mileage... but yet the repair, insurance and other costs exceed that, that's okay, I'm saving the environment!" Idiocy at its best. Sad. Great vid as usual Scotty. Exposing THE TRUTH.
@fernandogonzalez5770
@fernandogonzalez5770 4 года назад
Hes not saying anything revolutionary, and its not a common issue for people to have, if anything timing chain driven water pumps have been known to go over 200k miles non issue.
@pseudosmith9945
@pseudosmith9945 4 года назад
Get EXCELLENT gas mileage sitting in the yard broken down.. lol
@nils6177
@nils6177 4 года назад
@@fernandogonzalez5770 200k miles is not a lot
@fernandogonzalez5770
@fernandogonzalez5770 4 года назад
@@nils6177 200k is more than most people will go in a car, ive taken a camry to 480k, but i recognize that many other cars that arent toyota lexus wont hit more than 250k without issues.
@stephen7690
@stephen7690 3 года назад
and is overall worse for the environment because youll need to trash your old vehicle
@vishalakula8451
@vishalakula8451 4 года назад
Afternoon Scotty!! Stay safe during these times!
@scottykilmer
@scottykilmer 4 года назад
hello, thanks you too!
@dualityofman1253
@dualityofman1253 4 года назад
Toyota should hire Scotty to oversee all engineering and production.
@trippplefive
@trippplefive 4 года назад
why? they seem to know what they;re doing. maybe ford should hire him
@ryadhasanahmed5443
@ryadhasanahmed5443 4 года назад
@@trippplefive then ecoboosts will go out of production and we'll have reliable Fords again, heck maybe we'll get back the panther platform
@francesco1998
@francesco1998 4 года назад
Ryad Hasan Ahmed You see the problem with that is, Ford is making all these ecoboost engines because the EPA and federal government keep pushing for higher and higher corporate average mpg’s. So Ford makes these stupid engines to make their vehicles look more efficient on the EPA’s controlled testing, when in reality, they suck.
@darkdog535
@darkdog535 4 года назад
trippplefive Toyota is producing a brand new vehicle that doesn’t let you fill the gas tank over 3/4 full. Maybe they should hire him.
@ryadhasanahmed5443
@ryadhasanahmed5443 4 года назад
@@darkdog535 this is only happening with American made models the RAV4 Hybrids that are made in Japan are fine
@bigjay6743
@bigjay6743 4 года назад
Wish they still made slant 6 engines from the 70 & 80 now that was simple reliable engine and easy to fix. Plus u would get 500.000 miles and longer if u actually maintained it...
@TheGearhead222
@TheGearhead222 4 года назад
Uhhhh no....... I helped restored and owned a 1963 Falcon 144 I-6, a 1965 Mustang Notchback 200 I-6 and a 1967 Mustang Convertible 200 I-6. I was lucky to get 150-160K out of these engines. My Dad told me that the Continental long stroke in his Studebaker needed a ring and valve job around 60k! Metallurgy has come a LONG way since the 1940's-John in Texas
@AbcAbc-sp1od
@AbcAbc-sp1od 4 года назад
@@TheGearhead222 I couldn't agree more! I'll take a modern engine over an antiquated engine any day of the week!
@outworkthework
@outworkthework 4 года назад
My Dad had a Plymouth Volare with the slant 6. As long as it didn't rain, that thing was awesome until the rust started :(
@かんぐちあき
@かんぐちあき 4 года назад
Slant? You mean inline 6?
@bwtv147
@bwtv147 3 года назад
@@かんぐちあき Both. Chrysler sold inline 6 cylinder engines that were slanted instead of upright.
@pauleveritt3388
@pauleveritt3388 4 года назад
The moral of this story, "Spend money on ROUTINE MAINTENANCE!" In the United States the average driver does not even THINK about maintenance or a car repair fund until the vehicle gets in a really bad way or leaves them stranded on the side of the road.
@perry9492
@perry9492 4 года назад
Those engines are definitely a scam. As an engineer, I can't understand how anyone can build such a thing.
@MainMite06
@MainMite06 4 года назад
Perry All of Scotty's examples were re-adapted Japanese engines that used to run timing belts & powered that water pump with the timing belt. All of Fords DOHC (Duratec) V6s were designed & pulled from Mazda. Mazda used to run timing belts in their V6 engines in the 90s. When the 2000s came mazda decided to readapt their V6s to timing chain drive to improve reliability & improve consumer faith. But Mazda didnt want to reenginer the V6s significantly- *so they left the water pump in place ran the pump with the chain* & finally the story remains the same about Nissan VQ,VR.& VK engines, & it still remains the same story with Subaru H6s & timing chain F4s
@MainMite06
@MainMite06 4 года назад
Perry One more thing I forgot to say: just because the water pump is buried inside the timing cover & driven by timing chain *doesnt make them inherintly unreliable* Examples: 👉The 2016-2019 Ford GT ran the same DOHC TT ecoboost V6 from the F150, & explorer. *So that means it used a timing chain water pump* They ran Le mans & never had a single engine failure, & never had an engine failure throughout the WEC. 👉Nissan uses many variants of the VQ, VR, & VK engine to run endurance races, (The VR is the turbo Variant of the VQ, & the Vk is the 90 degree V8 derived from VQ) *all of them use the use timing-chain water pumps, & they never have failed from cooling issues* One example is- *the whole 2017-now LMP2 field* They all use a modified Nissan VK45 engine. & oh boy, they're known to take a thrash!
@zac8366
@zac8366 4 года назад
VQs have won many awards for reliability. This issue is EXTREMELY RARE. He's not necessarily wrong, its a huge issue if the water pump fails but its no scam. Don't believe everything this guy says.
@21stcenturyfossil7
@21stcenturyfossil7 4 года назад
It makes the engine package a couple of inches shorter. The shorter engine allows a longer multi speed transmission.
@omarfue556
@omarfue556 4 года назад
On the Fords, RWD vehicles with the 3.5/3.7 Duratec engine (F150/Mustang) have external water pump. FWD vehicles (Explorer/Edge) have internal water pump because there is less room with a transversely mounted engine.
@malcolmnicholls2893
@malcolmnicholls2893 4 года назад
Engineering dept: Take a component that doesn't give much trouble and - fix it !
@rubear1848
@rubear1848 4 года назад
NO! We have forward thinking which makes financial sense. More replaceable parts should be designed that way. Everyone likes new, we just give a reason for an upgrade, the least consumers can do is be thankful!!
@jaredmayer3960
@jaredmayer3960 4 года назад
Yeah it’s stupid to build something with inherent failures that destroy major components.
@barclinxox
@barclinxox 4 года назад
Engineers: if it ain't broke, break it. It it's broke, ignore it.
@iheartsupra111
@iheartsupra111 4 года назад
Ford “built tough” more like built tough to keep 😂😭
@andrewbelmudez6985
@andrewbelmudez6985 4 года назад
iheartsupra111 I think it only applies to the 6 cylinders only. I doubt that the 5.0 Coyote V8 has this kind of negligent design flaw
@atx-cvpi_99
@atx-cvpi_99 4 года назад
andrew belmudez And it also doesn’t apply for Ford vehicles that are RWD.
@231mac
@231mac 4 года назад
@@andrewbelmudez6985 No, it only applies to the 3.5 and 3.7 DURATEC series of 6 cylinders. Not the EcoBoost or Cyclone series.
@shadowfreak707
@shadowfreak707 4 года назад
Bruh 💀💀💀
@oiltoast3723
@oiltoast3723 4 года назад
Ford Fix Obnoxious Rust Daily.
@aspiringastronaut9992
@aspiringastronaut9992 4 года назад
Does he really talk with his arms like that in "real life"? This guy is a hoot
@libertyman3729
@libertyman3729 4 года назад
Ross McDonald, HE'S A LEGEND ! LOOK HOW MANY SUBS. HE HAS . HE HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF BEING A ORCHESTRA CONDUCTOR, THE ITALIAN FROM TEXAS, AND MUCH MORE. HE'S GREAT !
@realenglish1932
@realenglish1932 4 года назад
He's a great guy, he's opening people's eyes...
@brucemorris3830
@brucemorris3830 4 года назад
I’m pretty sure Scotty only has one “mode”, it’s just Scotty being Scotty 😂; what you see on these vids is probably exactly what you get in real life!!
@mattyee9369
@mattyee9369 4 года назад
@@realenglish1932 Nah, more like ranting. My Subaru will outlast most everyone's cars! Let alone is safer and handles better.
@jonahchristopher9759
@jonahchristopher9759 2 года назад
As a former Ford tech I can attest to the chain driven water pump issues usually didn’t see any issues until about 100k but it’s still the point it’s dangerous to have linked into a timing chain
@Flow_intoflames
@Flow_intoflames 4 года назад
Well now I'm going to be super paranoid about my water pump all day every day.
@jamesflames9930
@jamesflames9930 3 года назад
Change the antifreeze every 40k and regular oil changes should make it past 100k easy
@mygame_-ij9uh
@mygame_-ij9uh 22 дня назад
I just bought one at the expected failure mileage😅 yey!
@frankd.brennan6520
@frankd.brennan6520 4 года назад
So glad you made this video. I will definitely stay away from all of those engines with that water pump design. One thing for certain is that they don't like an educated consumer and thanks to scotty we're getting an education. I just would've never imagined that some manufacturers would think this was in any way good.
@MainMite06
@MainMite06 4 года назад
Frank D. Brennan Ive met plenty of V6 Ford F150s that are still running original timing-chain water pump after 200K miles.
@cloudconnect
@cloudconnect 11 месяцев назад
By the time we figure out the design flaw, they've already sold millions. They have us by the throat with the ICE, and that is another reason why we need to let them go and get into electric.
@rogerpattube
@rogerpattube 4 года назад
Subaru 3.6L engine has been discontinued
@robszostak4997
@robszostak4997 4 года назад
Sad I really love the engine without turbo and no direct injection. The new turbo 4 will be a problem with all that pressure
@archangele1
@archangele1 4 года назад
Nissan has had the water pump inside the timing cover for decades as has Honda. The thing is that you just have it replaced when you replace the chain or belt. Usually around 90K miles. In my 350Z and my Q60S, you have a tell tale hole that will weep antifreeze when the pump is starting to go. This pump has this little exit hole that sends the coolant outside. But, if you don't change the pump when this starts happening you run the risk of total failure. I had one replaced on my 350Z along with the chains and the chain tensioners and it cost around $1,100. As for just doing the water pump, Scotty must be a bit confused. There is a port in the timing cover that allows you to remove the pump without pulling that big front timing cover off as well as another that allows you to take tension off the chain as well as remove and replace the tensioner. I own a 350Z and a newer Infiniti Q60S and both can have water pumps replaced without the total removal of the timing chain cover.. I think this is just another of Scotty just plain hating anything Nissan.. Well? My boss has one of Scotty's beloved Lexus cars and that bloody thing is nothing but a rolling money pit.
@wutang80oc39
@wutang80oc39 4 года назад
My old 3.5 VQ pathfinder never had the waterpump changed or timing chain changed and it still runs good after 300K miles on it, that SUV gave me alot of trouble free miles as far as the drivetrain was concerned. The CD changer on the other hand was garbage.
@kevinwright3021
@kevinwright3021 4 года назад
This is why you dont take a subaru, nissan, infiniti to a toyota fan boy.
@gradywilson3006
@gradywilson3006 4 года назад
I have an 18 year old VQ with 234k miles on it with original timing chain and water pump. All of the engine internals are original as are the starter, alternator and power steering pump. It's been one of the most reliable cars I have ever owned. But it's always had meticulous service of all fluids and never been abused.
@fredwilliams7893
@fredwilliams7893 4 года назад
@@wutang80oc39 It makes me laugh when some dummy thinks he knows the VQ engine is junk yet never owned one and if he did I guarantee he did not properly maintain it. They are one of the best engines ever made I know cause my coworker has a 06 G35 with 200,000 miles on it and brags how he uses cheap oil to. I'm not surprised you have that many miles on yours. That's awesome. 👍
@armandolopez4621
@armandolopez4621 4 года назад
I’m no Nissan fanboy but the Nissan VQ series engine is one of the most highly regarded engines in history. It’s been awarded (if not mistaken) 14 consecutive Ward’s best engines in the world. If there’s a defect in the design, obviously it wouldn’t have made this feat. Now, the Nissan CVT is a different matter. But the VQ engine was the standard for V6 engines for many years. Makes you think that this guy is obviously biased against certain brands especially Nissan.
@Buc_Stops_Here
@Buc_Stops_Here 4 года назад
I guess my family is lucky - parents owned a first generation boxer H6 engine and after 14 years and 200,000 miles - the Subaru water pump was fine. Probably why you don't see any lawsuits against Subaru for this engine - but Ford does. I own a 6 year old 100,000 miles with an H6 engine. No issues with anything as of yet. Monitoring your engine in any car is smart. My parents also owned a Toyota Corolla with a CVT. It made a noise, they brought it in after 74,000 miles - and it needed to be rebuilt. Yes, Toyota makes bad designs as well. Not many, but they exist.
@alvarodias68
@alvarodias68 3 года назад
Scotty's hands have taught me a lot.
@MrWeareone777
@MrWeareone777 2 года назад
Lol 😂
@budschlick8500
@budschlick8500 4 года назад
Chrysler, and GM had the same concept a long while ago, with similar results. A very expensive repair. I have done my share of 3.5 Ford pumps to tell you that you will have a minimum $2000 repair right after you make your last car payment....
@joelgarcia8923
@joelgarcia8923 4 года назад
Had to replace my 300s engine because of this
@MrSilence99
@MrSilence99 4 года назад
What was the average milage at which they failed?
@ThunderRunner
@ThunderRunner 4 года назад
This on the new 3.5 eco boost? Heard it was redesigned in 2017 or 18. Same design on the 2.7?
@darrenwoloshyn
@darrenwoloshyn 4 года назад
M Anderson no the 3.5L and 3.7L Duratec V6’s that we’re in the 2007-2010 edges.
@budschlick8500
@budschlick8500 4 года назад
9 hour job for $600 is a steal, and you were lucky again for that mileage, It is a poor design, and the water pump is failure prone. I have done just as many Edges, as any other Ford that has that pump. Older Duratecs had the pump on the rear of the engine in an exterior configuration that was much easier to deal with
@marcswanson7066
@marcswanson7066 4 года назад
After dealing with my fair share of water pump nightmares, thermostat replacements, heater core problems, and cooling system maintenance, I've come to the conclusion that my very first car, a trusty air cooled VW Karmann Ghia, was a much better way to get around.
@phicks42
@phicks42 4 года назад
Another reason why I stuck with the 4 cylinder in my current Subaru. On our last Subaru (2006 2.5l) we replaced the water pump, etc. with the timing belt at 110,000 miles. Head gaskets, another known issue then, were done at 130,000. Those were the only big expenses we had with it. BTW: We traded it in 2017 after 11 years and 221,000 miles.
@gw5309
@gw5309 4 года назад
My son and his wife went through this with their 2013 Ford Edge. Trashed the motor. $7000 fix. They traded it the way it sat.
@pwee507
@pwee507 4 года назад
How many miles?
@robertmckeown3014
@robertmckeown3014 4 года назад
Oh my! We just bought a low mileage 2010 3.5l Edge for my wife. I had no idea about this.
@aluralur9855
@aluralur9855 4 года назад
Robert McKeown join the MacTfordedge face book group. The main key to longevity of the water pump is to led the coolant fresh. Drain and fill every 20000 miles. And use full synthetic oil only and change it every 4000 miles
@lewisanth4986
@lewisanth4986 4 года назад
@@aluralur9855 coolant changes at 20k miles for coolants designed to run 150K + miles is pretty much a waste of what is essentially brand new coolant... same with that fully synthetic engine oil change interval that is suggested. i get what you're saying but if the vehicle is gonna go through fluids that quickly, then the vehicle just isn't worth owning in my opinion. that's ridiculous! Robert, it wouldn't be the worst idea in the world to get rid it while you can and invest your cash elsewhere on a more reliable motor. good luck!
@chrizcars3126
@chrizcars3126 4 года назад
Scotty: “A fatal warning on why you need to buy a Toyota Celica”
@joshbacon8241
@joshbacon8241 4 года назад
Specifically, a 1994 model.
@0011clem
@0011clem 4 года назад
If his is a good one , then it is a good car . reliable and built fairly well. There are other Toyotas that are more appealing , but if he just uses it to go to the shops and stuff , being 1994 is no problem at all .Plus it would handle long runs as well .I am on my fourth Toyota and I am very pleased with every toyota I have owned. good cars .
@drizler
@drizler 4 года назад
Me Camray 4 banger SXE. I can live nicely with a sometimes bang shifting 8 spd automatic.
@kangarojack3814
@kangarojack3814 4 года назад
Precisely
@milkman2591
@milkman2591 4 года назад
Kinda like volkswagens timing belt driven high pressure fuel pump that was prone to failure anyway.
@EricFortuneJr.
@EricFortuneJr. 4 года назад
Remember the Chrysler 2.7 litre V6? Nobody learned from Chrysler’s mistakes? Now these are all much better than Chrysler’s old 2.7 but they’re definitely prone to oil dilution if the pump or seal fails. It’s like to save money they hire the least qualified dummies to engineer their powertrains. Apparently it costs too much money to hire someone with the right experience and training.
@grndiesel
@grndiesel 4 года назад
I thought for sure Scotty was going to go off on the pentastar V6, but it turns out they "inspired" others. Yay...
@tboneforreal
@tboneforreal 2 года назад
Everybody likes to blame the engineers, but they were just given a set of requirements. The bosses wanted an engine with significant power that can fit in as many models as possible to reduce costs. There is no way to fit a engine of that size transversally for a FWD and put a 6 SPD transmission for better fuel economy in the bay size provided without compromises. The fact that on RWD cars with similar engines have the water pump external shows the engineers were aware. So don't blame the engineer, blame the asshat product manager that gave them the requirements.
@jeorge29s
@jeorge29s 4 года назад
I bet Scotty cant talk If his hands are tied 🤣😂😅 Thanks for the info Scotty..
@dancindavey1515
@dancindavey1515 3 года назад
@Victor Smit This is funny. Just joined up to tell the same story bout my wife. We made a bet with her that she couldn’t carry on a conversation sittin on her hands. Hilarious to watch. Pissed her off big time.
@fishyhobby3697
@fishyhobby3697 4 года назад
Scotty, you should consider making a video that is a compilation of such items as this one for people to use as a checklist for when searching and evaluating cars for purchase.
@willyr.phillips2014
@willyr.phillips2014 4 года назад
I remember 2 or 3 decades ago older people saying, "I won't buy a foreign car! Buy American and support our jobs." That same guy now drives a Toyota Avalon. 'Nuff said! 😷
@patagualianmostly7437
@patagualianmostly7437 4 года назад
Short-sighted eyes on the profit margin. It's the American way. Shareholders rule what the companies do. Remember Hewlett-Packard a decade or so ago?
@michelt4390
@michelt4390 4 года назад
Isn't the Avalon, like many other Toyota's, manufactured in US factories?
@sweeptheleg.
@sweeptheleg. 4 года назад
I once saw a buy American bumper sticker, on the bumper of an ISUZU suv! Way to practice what you preach buddy. Lol!
@ramirorodriguez9671
@ramirorodriguez9671 4 года назад
Toyotas are made here and the Chevys are made in Mexico so....
@GoneWalkabout
@GoneWalkabout 4 года назад
Like my dad, a die hard Buick man. So pissed at me for buying a Toyota. Last car he owned was a Camry, he said it the best car he ever owned....
@joelmakela2964
@joelmakela2964 4 года назад
"Chrysler 2.7L engine has entered the chat"
@H2R5GSXR
@H2R5GSXR 4 года назад
I was thinking he forgot the 2.7L thanks for adding it.
@sauercrowder
@sauercrowder 4 года назад
You better believe it... family sedan died this way when I was younger. 2004 Dodge Intrepid
@125AXer
@125AXer 4 года назад
When we bought our Concorde, one of the options was between the 2.7 and the 3.2 engines. Maybe just luck, we went for the 3.2. Changed the belt myself at 120K miles, relieved that I didn't have to deal with the 2.7's chain problems!
@joelmakela2964
@joelmakela2964 4 года назад
I bought my second own car without knowing much about the engine and that was Chrysler 300M 2.7L. It was in mint condition and with all the goodies. Pretty rare car here in Finland/Europe and it was truly one of the last really "different" American vehicles imported to Europe. After owning it a few months I stumbled upon a forum post about the 2.7L lawsuits and problems and I never stopped checking the oil cap/coolant level since :DDDD Turned out the previous (only) owner had the timing chain+tensioner+water pump replaced at 100.000km so I guess I got a bit lucky. Nevertheless I loved the 300M and it served me flawlessly for 40.000km until I had to sell it because of my studies. Great car but I do realize that others didn't have that great experiences...
@jaimevillasana4732
@jaimevillasana4732 4 года назад
That motor made me pull my hair out , took me forever to figure out the timing
@jn1mrgn
@jn1mrgn 4 года назад
That water pump setup on your 94 Celica is a nightmare compared to my 72 Dodge Ram.
@jibrilsarabi2908
@jibrilsarabi2908 4 года назад
bleuflamenco the water pump on that celica is a nightmare compared to my 2002 F150
@mrl3044
@mrl3044 4 года назад
@@jibrilsarabi2908 well now we're talking about front wheel vs rear wheel drive
@Corsairforu
@Corsairforu 4 года назад
yeah he said that is easy to change in like 30-60 mins and I thought hell no!
@lonniewhite3577
@lonniewhite3577 4 года назад
bleuflamenco the water pump on the ram is a nightmare compared to my 66 GMC V6! Just a flange w/a pump on it.
@cliffordgill9052
@cliffordgill9052 4 года назад
When changing my water pump on my 1975 Monte Carlo (with a 350 engine, the most time-consuming part was cleaning the new pump and prepping it for paint then waiting for the paint to dry!😂😂😂😂😂😂 The rest was easy!
@danbjuliano626
@danbjuliano626 4 года назад
A sbc makes life really easy; I love it
@andrefecteau
@andrefecteau 4 года назад
oh the electric car revolution! no more of this nonsense
@catsspat
@catsspat 4 года назад
Well, Toyota still knows what they're doing. Their newer engines have electric water pumps. No chain, or even belt for that matter. An independent device that just needs some electrical connections. I like it.
@conmanumber1
@conmanumber1 4 года назад
With electric fan too?.
@Corsairforu
@Corsairforu 4 года назад
I think that new Supra engine like that is a German BMW design though.
@wonderbreadjumps
@wonderbreadjumps 4 года назад
Scotty has always been a fan of electronics that never go bad lol
@geoffphillips5872
@geoffphillips5872 4 года назад
catsspat The Toyota maker is the standout winner of the most reliable cars on Earth. F$&@& the loser rest.
@fil1329
@fil1329 4 года назад
I wonder how long the alternator will last.... It's a good concept but electrical energy has to come from somewhere......
@flymachine014
@flymachine014 4 года назад
I read a comment a while ago that said If the engineers of the engine were in charge of doing work on it, they would be designed simpler
@Paul-gz5dp
@Paul-gz5dp 4 года назад
It is usually the pencil pushers that are telling the engineers what to do that are the problem
@RichardFreeberg
@RichardFreeberg 4 года назад
A long time ago (1970) when I worked fixing cars as a goff'er for some older German mechanics, they told me that English cars were often a nightmare to work on because they were designed by "English Gentlemen Engineers" that never had the experience of physically building or fixing anything. It's a social class thing. Upper-Class English always has someone else do their dirty, greasy work. In Continental Europe by comparison, Engineers started their training, in what is equivalent to our High School, by designing, building, and fixing their own simple machines. Consequently, they had a different design philosophy. I don't know if this is still true, but I once talked with a really old Swedish Engineer who confirmed that his early mechanical education included a similar 'hands on' approach!
@AbcAbc-sp1od
@AbcAbc-sp1od 4 года назад
@@RichardFreeberg , that European sensibility must've ended in the 90's, because European cars are a nightmare to work on compared to American and Japanese cars of the same era.
@RichardFreeberg
@RichardFreeberg 4 года назад
@@AbcAbc-sp1od I think you might have a point there. As another comment stated cost reduction was a key component as well.
@notadoctor2598
@notadoctor2598 4 года назад
If engineers were in charge, it might cost more.
@salvor1
@salvor1 4 года назад
Wow, thanks. Keeping an eye out for that one. Ya know? It seems if you buy any company's new car you're just opening yourself up to getting it up the kazoo for SO MANY reasons. They keep coming up with new SNAFUs from bumper to bumper (they don't even have those anymore!!).
@CelticSemperTyrannis
@CelticSemperTyrannis 4 года назад
It's cheaper to get a replacement used engine don't ask me how I know :(
@scruffy3528
@scruffy3528 4 года назад
good thing I got the 4 cylinder subaru
@koljag5
@koljag5 4 года назад
Some chrysler v6 engines have that issue too, like the 2.7.
@kristoffMR
@kristoffMR 4 года назад
Anything chrysler is crap!
@wamgoc3637
@wamgoc3637 4 года назад
Yet the early fours in the K cars ran forever if you changed the timing belt as specified. I bought a rust bucket Dakota for the rear end that had the V6 with a quarter million plus and the lower end is still tighter than Taylor Swift’s c....ontract.
@slipskippy
@slipskippy 4 года назад
2020: I want a new 6 cylinder Subaru ,Dealer : We don’t make!
@olivertaylor4779
@olivertaylor4779 4 года назад
Most manufacturers are going small cc turbo motors, so it makes sense to concentrate on the 4 cylinder motors.
@uptownsamcv
@uptownsamcv 4 года назад
the nissan VQ engines have 2 access panels, one for the water pump and the other for the chain tensioner so the pump can be changed easier... best way to prolong the longevity of the water pump is to change the coolant at the recommended interval due to the fact that it has a lubricant in it for water pump bearings...
@08VaNupe
@08VaNupe 4 года назад
I've owned a few VQ motors than ran to 300k with little no problems.....he just want to hear himself talk...
@jymjym777
@jymjym777 4 года назад
Wow bring back memory's of my Dodge intrepid . Went to change it . I junked it .
@blinkfan305
@blinkfan305 4 года назад
Same here. 2000 dollars to fix it at 68K miles, then the engine started a slight knock at 80K. Got rid of it and traded in for a 2011 Crown Victoria.
@Elmota64
@Elmota64 4 года назад
Thank god the Subaru FB Engine doesn't have this issue
@joshbacon8241
@joshbacon8241 4 года назад
9:19 - Yeah, it’s as if the manufacturers who build the cars don’t want them to last forever...
@car24dude
@car24dude 4 года назад
Josh Bacon If you know how, and when to service and take care of your vehicle, it will last a very long time.
@eggy1962
@eggy1962 4 года назад
thats the point , they dont want vehicles to last...there no profit in it,
@cubancigarman2687
@cubancigarman2687 4 года назад
When it’s time for a new cell phone, it’s also time for a new car. Perpetual indebtedness. Same goes for credit cards, you pay down your account and then they increase your interest rate. Oh and Subaru doesn’t get a pass either, I’ve seen many with blown head gaskets. 40 year home mortgages, everything interest up front. The best policy is to save up and pay in full and take no loans, but that is almost unattainable for most people with a normal job. Systematically keeping us in want, need, and debt. Everything is planned and failure of every vehicle built to fail. I drive commercially and we have a repair shop on site. My Cummins turbo diesel had abs brake module failure on international 2015 box truck. Mechanic diagnose and replaced part but we still needed to tow my vehicle to dealer to had the new parts reprogrammed! Every vehicle maker does this now, so find the car maker that has the lowest featured flaws. Good luck all!
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 4 года назад
rev up your real pain in the rear end to access, expensive to repair, dimwit designed, internal installed chain driven oil soaked water pump fitted engines!!
@rocksolidwp2008
@rocksolidwp2008 4 года назад
I have a duratec 3.5l It’s fine, been in there for 203k miles Don’t beat your engine up , change the fluids often. I use synthetic. Or just buy this engine from the junk yard and
@Will-tm5bj
@Will-tm5bj 4 года назад
I recently found out what an interference engine is when my timing belt blew on my Ford fiesta. Hope to have it back in the next week or so.. When the new engine is installed🤣🤣
@kyle857
@kyle857 4 года назад
Well I have a Ford Escape and my wife has a Subaru Crosstrek so I'm all ears. Edit: Seems like we are good. My Lease on the Escape is almost done anyway and I am going to buy a Rav4.
@sachemrock
@sachemrock 4 года назад
Kyle , your a smart man. I think you will find the RAV4 much nicer than the Ford Escape. 😃
@CravinMorehead420
@CravinMorehead420 4 года назад
A wise man once told me.. "never marry a vehicle". He was my mentor at the Cadillac dealership.. HA HA! Northstar engines did put his kids through college though..
@PRmoustache88
@PRmoustache88 4 года назад
I hate interference engines. I mean it's in the name itself, 'interference', and I don't know anybody who likes being interfered with.
@wamgoc3637
@wamgoc3637 4 года назад
Very difficult to get good performance while keeping the valves out of the piston at any cam angle when at TDC. Why there are no diesel non interference engines.
@rickgaynor1740
@rickgaynor1740 4 года назад
Thanks for the info Scotty. How about a Ford 3.5L Eco-boost in a 2018 Expedition, timing chain driven water pump?
@Devcom88
@Devcom88 4 года назад
Good thing my friends and family with Subarus have the the 4 cylinder and and not the 6.
@Orefamilylawncare
@Orefamilylawncare 4 года назад
He's wrong though. The h6 Subaru has very few head gasket leaks and the water pumps last forever.
@atx-cvpi_99
@atx-cvpi_99 4 года назад
The 3.5, 3.5 EcoBoost, and 3.7 in the F-150, Transit, Mustang, and Expedition/Navigator don’t have the timing chain driven water pump. Those are the only versions of that V6 I would buy.
@330FoeSho
@330FoeSho 4 года назад
Yes thank you! This is a big misconception that they have the internal timing chain driven pumps.
@PumaPete
@PumaPete 4 года назад
I wouldn’t buy any ecoboost
@anthonys7534
@anthonys7534 4 года назад
Yes because the engine mount was in the way on the edge and explorer. I’ve had two of these engines and enjoy everything about them , it’s too bad they screwed that part up.
@ChrisBrown-pz2gu
@ChrisBrown-pz2gu 4 года назад
Yes, the RWD versions don't suffer from this issue, the FWD (or AWD based on a front driver), do
@2pink1stink
@2pink1stink 4 года назад
I have a 2014 Ford flex 3.5 2wd, the water pump is internal
@bigbossman5969
@bigbossman5969 4 года назад
when Ford says built ford tuff they mean tough to repair
@haakonkolberg6390
@haakonkolberg6390 4 года назад
are you a dumb
@anthonytran98290
@anthonytran98290 4 года назад
Hello Scott, after I watched your video I don't know what car I'm going to buy. I will buy a donkey instead. But thank you anyway for let me know something about the engine.
@MisterMikeTexas
@MisterMikeTexas 4 года назад
Donkeys bite!
@anthonytran98290
@anthonytran98290 4 года назад
@@MisterMikeTexas hahaha
@jamesdarcy3902
@jamesdarcy3902 3 года назад
I have a 2015 Outback with the 2.5L FB11 engine. The water pump is easy to access like on Scotty's Celica.
@EJ257IHI
@EJ257IHI 4 года назад
My Subaru Tribeca 3.0 H6 had a leaking water pump. Cost $1000 to replace. Not fun. They had to take the timing cover off, chain off..........you get the idea.
@MostlyBuicks
@MostlyBuicks 4 года назад
Engineers HAVE to think of new ways of doing things constantly to avoid becoming obsolete. There is no requirement they actually IMPROVE anything, as long as it is new (or recycled from a previous engineer's work).
@Марко13
@Марко13 4 года назад
It seems Acura is the only company that's not screwing with their engines.
@godofdestructiondiecast6756
@godofdestructiondiecast6756 4 года назад
You mean Honda and don't forget about Toyota
@kclefthanded427
@kclefthanded427 4 года назад
Acura doesn't use 1.5 liter turbo so its kinda true
@Марко13
@Марко13 4 года назад
@@kclefthanded427 they do not even use the earth dreams engine.
@Марко13
@Марко13 4 года назад
@@godofdestructiondiecast6756 I'm over Toyota and don't care for them they don't know how to build engines...Acura is like Lexus and Cadillac subsidiary of Honda
@godofdestructiondiecast6756
@godofdestructiondiecast6756 4 года назад
@@Марко13 what you talkin about Cadillac .Cadillac is on brand it's not no spin off of something Chevy
@istp1967
@istp1967 4 года назад
Engineers Only Design things ; they Never, Even FIX them -- that job is left to the mechanics and technicians . . They design stuff Purely to show the World how clever they are; but then they wash their hands of any responsibility for things when they wear out or fail. And it's left to the mechanics and technicians to face angry people and take the blame when things go wrong! Case in point: Skyscrapers -- you will never find an architect or engineer cleaning or replacing the windows on a skyscraper, will you . . .
@jeffreyjeziorski341
@jeffreyjeziorski341 4 года назад
Towering Inferno comes to mind.
@derekinbritishcolumbia1449
@derekinbritishcolumbia1449 4 года назад
Yes engineers get a bad rap when decisions are made by accountants & executive wanting to maximize their profits. Engineers are paid to execute designs.... that's their job. I wouldn't want an engineer doing my car Mtc. but I do, perform my own when within my capabilities. And... I did obtain my degree in engineering.
@mikeg3529
@mikeg3529 4 года назад
If they didn't have the room to put the water pump on the belt drive, then they should just use an electric pump somewhere accessible on the car. An electric pump might fail occasionally,and might be a couple hundred dollars to replace but it would avoid that horrific failure mode where coolant enters the crankcase and costs you a whole engine.
@lolz616
@lolz616 4 года назад
or u could just change the water pump out at a reasonable amount of mileage to stop it from breaking and causing all that damage much cheaper
@MainMite06
@MainMite06 4 года назад
Lolz Preventative maintenance intervals are the golden rule of car ownership!
@darrenwoloshyn
@darrenwoloshyn 4 года назад
Still a $2000 job. Timing chain, tensioners, water pump, coolant, oil, oil filter.
@Ajcimo14
@Ajcimo14 4 года назад
Thanks scotty for letting me know about this. I have one of those duratec engines that you mention in the video. My water pump is going bad because I'm loosing some coolant every few days and now I know why. It's not leaking outside the engine its leaking inside and mixing with my oil
@dealerauctionnightmare4689
@dealerauctionnightmare4689 4 года назад
Engineer: We designed a great engine here! NonEngineer: Was the water pump a second thought? Engineer: Yes, yes it was. Good Luck....................
@PearComputingDevices
@PearComputingDevices 4 года назад
That's a lot like the Chrysler 2.7. Hunk of junk. I've never owned one, but I know plenty who ended up getting bit by one! One of the worst designs ever.. and built Ford tough? My behind. That's probably why they've done away with that slogan.
@mael-strom9707
@mael-strom9707 4 года назад
Bought a Ford?... Tough! 😂🤣
@PearComputingDevices
@PearComputingDevices 4 года назад
@@mael-strom9707 Yeah, that's more like it. The most honest slogan ever!
@JohnDiMartino
@JohnDiMartino 4 года назад
I agree with you 100 percent , it’s completely unacceptable that manufacturers put the water pump inside the engine behind a chain which empties the cooling systems contents into the crankcase . One thing you didn’t specify is that not All Ford Duratec 3.5/3.7s have that, just the transverse mount ones. The F150 and Transit Vans use a belt driven water pump on the outside that’s easy to change
@arsyadidris2919
@arsyadidris2919 4 года назад
I facepalmed so hard when scotty explained what a timing chain powered water pump is... Wth car manufacturers?
@MainMite06
@MainMite06 4 года назад
Arsyad Idris Ford+Mazda, Subaru, & Nissan converted their old timing belt-driven 6-cyl engines into timing chain driven engines. They all left the water pump in the center being driven by whats now the timing chain.
@Maximus5798
@Maximus5798 4 года назад
Endless money pits, every single one of ‘em.
@crxdelsolsir
@crxdelsolsir 4 года назад
2:56 Is the reason why they did it that way. Essentially you will experience this when you didn't want to have it serviced under warranty (because they replace this under dealer periodic servicing), trying to save by DIY'ing it and forgot to change it or out of warranty. Either way it is a nice little booby trap penalty for trying to save by not having your vehicle serviced by the Stealership so they can get your money (profits). Also a great way to cut the life cycle of products reducing the 2nd hand market (seen as a drain on profits) and forces people to buy new so that the manufacturer receives the most profit.
@jackisback7612
@jackisback7612 4 года назад
) p.o
@donamirault8747
@donamirault8747 4 года назад
check the oil often...it looks like a latte...stop driving it and change the pump pronto
@cristirado_official01
@cristirado_official01 2 года назад
I hate Ford for doing such a bad water pump design, my very well maintained 2013 SEL with just 72,424 miles on it is going to be parked for a very long time until I can get the money to fix it, where I live is very expensive it cost about $2,500 USD. I have owned Ford vehicles for a long time, but not anymore!!!, this will be the last Ford in my life!!!. I had a 2000 Ford Taurus with the 24 valves Duratec V6 3.0L engine, it came out much better than this 2013 one, I remember that the water pump was external and extremely easy to replace. Next time I'm buying something else a Mazda 6, Toyota Camry, a Honda Accord or maybe a Kia or Hyundai.
@Inu1294
@Inu1294 4 года назад
Thankfully on my 2018 Subaru, the water pump is external and serpentine belt driven.
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