A Song of Ice and Fire: Whispers from a Red Mask 

You know nothing Preston Jacobs. Ashara Dayne is clearly Belwas.

Does anyone else think that Quaithe is not referring to places Dany has been, but to her ancestry? I think that when she says "To go forward you must go back." Quaithe is telling Daenerys to go to the ruins of old Valyria.

"Dany is always wrong" You know nothing, Daenerys.

Dany already killed her lover, Khal Drogo. She suffocated him with a pillow.

This has become one of my favorite channels on RU-vid.

The line that Quaithe gave may also be about Dany's life, the first part may be about her parents, mother from the north father from the south. The second part " to go west you have to east" is that she had to travel east to travel back west to Westeros. The third part "to go forward you must go back" to understand what she must do she has to know her past/ her families past. And last part, in order to touch the light or be the light i.e. Azor Ahai, she past beneath the shadow may mean the winter and the coming of the whites, when people talk about an enemy coming they some times refer to as a great darkness or a shadow. But this just what I think, I cant wait watch your Littlefinger video.

Despite the accuracy of any theory, which will never be known because the books are complete as it stands now, you can't deny THIS IS A FUCKING GREAT VIDEO.

One way that I always interpreted the part of Quaithe's prophecy, "the to reach the west you must go east" is that Dany will literally travel east all around the world until she reaches the western side of Westeros. Maybe land on Bear Island and check out Jorah's hometown. The scaling of the maps of course isn't supposed to be perfect, but I'd estimate the known world to be about 5500 miles wide from western Dorne to Qarth, which if the world is the same size as the Earth, would leave about 19500 miles left at the equator, but if you traveled over the north pole, that would cut a lot of distance. Also, this could help explain "to journey north, you must go south." When you cross the north pole, you begin to go south to reach the "North" that was your intended destination. Maybe she'll get lost in the lands of always winter. And, the fact that the world is in darkness in winter can make it difficult to tell which way is north. tl:dr: I think I've analyzed this too much

These vids get me hype for Winds. Then I get sad cause who knows when thats happening

God dammit Preston, I was watching this at 1 at night and that Quaithe jump scare made me shit myself.

The mystery is beautiful. The characters and the lore are all awesome. This is why I love Daenerys' chapters so much.

Preston even included an image for vaginal bleeding at 2:06. That's dedication! I hope you're gonna get an image of Varys' castration and penectomy if/when you refer to it. It's only fair.

-The "Kraken and dark flame" are clearly Victarion Greyjoy and Moqorro. -The"lion and griffin" might be Tyrion Lannister and Jon Connington. -The "sun's son" could be the Second Son's, but probably not. -The "mummer's dragon" is an interesting one. I'm guessing it has to do with Varys (formerly a mummer) and Aegon Targaryon. -The perfumed seneschal is most likely Reznak, as he is known to wear lots of perfume. I can't think of anything else it could be. - "Red sword and blue-eyed king". The red sword is probably Lightbringer, and the blue-eyed king is probably the Great Other (the Others and their wights have bright blue eyes). This pretty clearly represents R'hllor and the Great Other, IMO. -"Blue flower in ice wall". If you believe the R+L=J theory, then this one should be obvious -> Jon Snow. This is my analysis. I'd like to hear some disagreements.

I just dont see how Ashare would know all the magic Quaith know. I would assume it takes half a lifetime 2 lern, and she have only had like 15 years or so..

I took the Perfumed Seneschal to be in reference to the ship that carried Tyrion and Jorah the Selaesori Qhoran - which Tyrion names the Stinky Steward - despite being told that the word Selaesori had more positive connotations like Fragrant.

I love the low key digs Preston always has for our protagonists. “Let’s do one better than Dany…” lol keep it up!

Grey corpse = Jon Connington

Omg I can't wait!!! Little Finger's awesome! Upload soon please!.. I just received my Mockingbird sigil in the mail on Xmas and I plan to wear it EVERYDAY FOREVER!!!... lol... anyways you're the best Preston, and I check your channel for new uploads before I do anything else here on RU-vid! Keep it up!.. I'll be waiting...

The “perfumed seneschal” has been one of the most frustrating prophecies to speculate about. Dany goes almost immediately to Reznak and the fans seem to harbor ideas that this is for telling Varys but one of the characters I personally feel like this is referencing is greatly overlooked. The Green Grace is the one pushing for a marriage, who submitted Hizdar as the groom, and who has been in frequent contact with Dany. Galazza Galare is closest and most likely to use naivety and limited understanding of ghiscari culture to her own advantage. It’s maddening

I don't know but sometimes I feel uneasy hearing about asoiaf deep lore theories. It's a genuine masterpiece.

Înteresting to re-hear all that now that the TV serie’s ended ^^. Damnit we need GRRM to write !

Awesome video :D however, I will say that Dany makes a note of Quaithes eyes as 'wet and shiny' which could mean many things, potentially tears, but Ashara is described as having 'haunting violet eyes'. Wouldn't Dany notice purple eyes? Also, for some reason with no real proof whatsoever, I've always assumed 'Remember the Undying' was a warning against falsehood. They led her away, and tried to confuse her while finally attempting to kill her. Like I said, it's just a personal intuition

The Sun's son is definitely Quentin Martell, from Sunspear. The Martell sigil is a sun with a spear piercing it.

Preston you are now officially my favourite channel, keep up the good work champ

How can Quaithe be Ashara Dayne when LEMORE is already Ashara Dayne? Also Queen Rhaella and the High Heart Ghost and secretly also Pycelle. EVERYBODY'S ASHARA DAYNE!~

I subscribe to the theory that Quaithe is Shiera Seastar.

Woow I never realised Quaithe came to Dany in her fever dream in AGoT! It makes so much sense, though.

I just binge watched all your videos i had not watched before. And i have to say they were really great. I love all the lore involved in the series. And i can't wait to see how many play out to be correct. The facts you back up your theories with are just amazing.

Your theory about Ashara being Jon's mother makes no sense if she's also Quaithe. Why would she protect a girl all the way in Essos when her son is alive in Westeros?

I like the idea of Quaithe as Ashara as Jon Snow's mother. It ties in with the last line of John V in ASoS when Jon escapes from the Thenn, “He rode till dawn, while the stars stared down like eyes.”

"And next time we'll be talking about... fucking Littlefinger." that'smyfetish.jpg ( ͡o ͜ʖ ͡o)

I can totally believe it's Ashara. I'm a huge fan of the Tower Tower Joy Joy theory and I've been spreading that to all of my Song of Ice and Fire buddies.

Just curious... Anyone think that Quaithe is Dany from the future? Maybe these glass candles can also transcend time just like they can transcend space. It's a little farfetched though...

Keep up the amazing work man. You're one of the only youtubers who excites me now whenever you post a video!

dude your videos are awesome. how do you piece all these things together like that. you sir are a badass.

Jon snow is the blue flower on the wall. And the house of the undieing vision where she walks by that door and she's a woman and those five ...baby.....things is westeros and the five kings tearing it apart.

You understand nothing, Daenerys Targaryen

I thought Jon Snow was the ‘sweet blue flower’ that slumbered in the North.

Why would Dany be Rhaegar’s kid? Viserys was there with Rhaella when Dany was born, and if she is the daughter of Rhaegar, why isn’t her name Visenya? Rhaegar was known to be trying to birth three saviors, Aegon, Rhaenys, and Visenya, and since he already had Aegon and Rhaenys, why stop there? I don’t know, but I still support R+L=J.

MIND = BLOWN!!! Preston, thanks for this awesome video. I know you put a lot of work into this. I have been asking for a Quaithe video since one of your 1st video's, because no one has ever done anything on her, at least that I know of. And just when I was feeling like a spoilt child, you are planning to do a video on my second favorite character (after Quaithe) the elusive, almost knowable Little Finger. God is good! lol

Wow, you got Dany going to Vaes Dothrak right...and maybe she might get a large enough Khalasar and dragons to take Qarth too, where she can meet Quaithe again, and perhaps even Marwin, who's going to Essos the last time we saw him..

this is crazy, I think when all is set and done I will come back and binge watch all of your videos to make sense of it all, thanks dude.

Convinced. If Ashara is Quathe- the house with the red door could be in Dorne...

Awesome as always. You are doing a great work! In my opinion, you have the best Asoiaf youtube channel out there by far. Watching your videos had giving me a great urge to begin my third reread of the books! I'm at Feast for Crows, and the books are better with the knowledge that you have been givin. Had to thanks you, and i hope you will continue those videos for long and take pleasure to make them!

I wanted to share some of my other thoughts about Ashara. However, I will start with a little thought on Gilly. Gilly showed great character and love by making the difficult choice between two children that she loved . . she made a hard choice thinking about the greatest good for the greatest amount of people involved. Love, Duty, Sacrifice. Being Arthur's sister, Ashara would have spent a lot of time in King's Landing. Her brother, as Rhaegar's best friend, -likely gave her the opportunity to befriend Rhaegar and Elia. Ashara likely cared for both of them, with a particular bias towards Rhaegar -being Arthur's BFF. Ser Barriston Selmy probably also had the opportunity to get to know Arthur and Ashara reasonably well. Barriston and Ned loved Ashara. Both of these men are of strong character and capable of great love -and would be drawn to a woman with similar or greater strengths. Their hearts are particular and would most likely fall for a woman who was incredibly INTELLIGENT, loving, kind, wise, brave, and capable of self-less service. They both fell hard for Ashara, this is very telling of what is within Ashara. The beauty of her eyes goes beyond aesthetics. There are those who can smile through their eyes, adding a deeper beauty to the aesthetic (color, shape, lash-length, etc) -their eyes reflect their emotions. Such people possess the most empathy. This is Ashara Dayne. Such a person may also be drawn to the role of a healer/ helper. In mid-evil times, nuns were among the few women who had access to the education, training, and practice of the healing arts. It seems like the priestess role in G.R.R.M.'s world is similar, with added magical skills, of course. Arthur Dayne let Ned kill him . . . it likely had something to do with protecting Rhaegar's newborn -in a spell, perhaps. That Newborn was obviously important to Arthur, and thus -would be just as important to Ashara. Ashara loved both Starks. Given her feelings for both of them, and her loving nature -she likely took the time to get to know Lyanna. I imagine that she can understand and sympathize with Rhaegar's attraction to and love for Lyanna; as Ashara could not pull herself away from the 'wolf' either. She would also have a respect and duty to the realm and prophesy. Ned went to Ashara after the Tower of Joy. He would not want her to learn of what happened to Arthur from anyone, but himself. I think he also went to her to ask for help with Lyanna's baby. I think that he initially thought that the child could be a ward of Dorne. At his visit, I propose that Ned was surprised and hurt to learn of Ashara's child with Brandon. Given the details and the worry of whisperers (spies) that would inform King's Landing of suspicious newborns . . . there would need to be confusion to conceal the truth. Lyanna's child would be relentlessly hunted by Robert, until dead. Ashara cares for Rhaegar and Lyanna. What is/was important to Arthur and Ned, would be important to her too. Plus if two lives can be saved, you do what you can to save all life -when you have the heart of a healer. If Ned promised Lyanna to ensure protection of the Stark-Targaryen baby, Ned's presence around a silver-haired baby would be suspicious, endangering the child further. Preston, you brought up a great, important fact: ONLY KINGS are buried in the crypts of Winterfell. Women are not kept there! But that is where Ned put Lyanna's body. I believe that this was to prevent any inspection of Lyanna's remains that would reveal that she had given birth, for example: bony changes such as: widening of the public symphysis or a ramus fracture of the pelvis from a difficult delivery / shoulder dystocia. Before decomposition (early after her death), her skin, breast development, and soft-tissue changes are, of course, are indicative. Her body needed to be concealed and protected from any inquisitive eyes who had possibly heard any whispers of Lyanna having a child. Whispers of Ned Stark with a Child in Dorne would need to be expunged. Ned cannot go to Starfall with a Child and Lyanna's dead body and leave without a baby. There would be questions about the transported child and suspicions that it was Lyanna's with Rhaegar. Ned needed to leave with his sister's dead body and a child, and he needed to be ready to address questions and suspicions. If the child was to be passed off as no child of Rhaegar's; Ned needed a child that looked nothing like Rhaegar. Ashara happened to have a child that looked like a true Stark; that would be the perfect solution -and it would answer the questions / rumors of Ned Stark being seen with a baby traveling from the Tower of Joy to StarFall. The child would have to be claimed by Ned, and no one would doubt Ned's claim / integrity (unless the baby had silver hair and violet eyes). Ashara would be saving two babies, both babies have her love. Ashara also has the comfort that her son would be raised by a kind and noble family in the north and will have siblings, education, and opportunities. Jon is the true descendant of the King's of the North and does belong in the North given that he is the SON of the true heir of Winterfell. In addition, a Bastard had become Lord of Winterfell once before, -this opportunity cannot be a possibility for Jon, at all; if Jon were raised without knowledge of the North and Winterfell. Ashara disappeared without a trace and no one is asking questions. Like Oberyn, I think Ashara was resourceful and someone who studied a lot of mystical arts out of her own passion of learning -and protective instincts. She and Lyanna's baby disappeared . . . which is something Ned could not do, but he needed someone who could make Lyanna's child invisible (hidden in plain sight). I think Ashara's plan required that she must also disappear when bringing the Targaryen baby to safety (via/with Willem Darry) and subsequently watching over the baby, undetected. Ashara was likely still able to breastfeed and could pose as a commoner wet-nurse traveling with Willem Darry, for a time. There were enough babies at Starfall to create the required confusion and cover. I think Ashara was resourceful enough to know how to manipulate the rumor mill. On the rumor ‘grape-vine’ there was a stillborn baby girl, a baby boy, and a baby with Ned Stark. The rumors in Westeros seem to almost always have a grain of truth or more. I theorize that the truth of the baby situation was: 1) Ashara gave birth to a brunette baby boy. 2) Wylla gave birth to a stillborn baby (unreported gender). 3) Ned traveled from the Tower of Joy to Starfall with a silver-haired baby girl. Ironically, the word "Ashara" means : "miscarriage" in the language of Hausa. Ashara is a big-hearted woman, she had to part with her beloved little boy and her comfortable life as a noble woman to save more lives. If Ashara gave up nobility for the life of a priestess/healer, like Quaithe, I imagine that she has no regrets and gained access of a glass candle. With that glass candle, Quaithe/Ashara would have been able to comfort / support both Jon and Dany through their dreams. She would/could have been able to show herself to Jon in his dreams, where he most admired her "kindly eyes". Ashara would also be given fulfilling opportunities to help others on a daily basis that she could not have had as a Lady of Starfall. Another note, in ADWD, Barriston remembers the tourney at Harrenhall. He thinks about how all would have been different and better if he had won instead of Rhaegar and named Ashara as the Queen of Love and Beauty. If he had revealed his love for Ashara, perhaps he could have protected her from Stark. “No good came from silence either. If I had unhorsed Rhaegar and crowned Ashara queen of love and beauty, might she have looked to me instead of Stark?” **He only says "STARK" he does not reveal which one**

Love it. All your theories are great. Some are a leap, and others seem like a slam dunk. Even if you are wrong about all this, I love listening.

Quathe= Shierra. Lemore= Ashara. Ned finds Lyanna. Lyanna says "Promise me, Ned, that you will protect my daughter." Ned thinks that he can't pass off a blonde purple eyed baby as his own and decides to pair her with Viserys so they can be together. Given the evidence of Howland Reed's magic there is no way Ned can return any of the bodies without raising further suspicions. He takes Dawn, baby D, and anything else he can from the tower before burning it down. He takes Dany and Dawn to Starfell. House Dayne is happy to have their sword back and honored that their greatest warrior gave his life for the ultimate greater good. Ashara reveals that she was impregnated after a night of passion with Brandon. Ashara wants to continue her brother's work in protecting TPtwP. Ned wants to protect the honor of House Dayne as well as have his brother's heir with him to raise in the Stark way. Both Jon and Dany nurse from Wylla (who had miscarried the daughter Ashara would claim as her own). Ashara takes Dany to Viserys and then decides to support the Targeryan cause by raising Rhaeger.

Yessss! Been waiting for this. Thanks. Happy New Years.

I would love it if Dany was Rhaegar's daughter but apparently GRRM has revealed that Jon Snow is exactly 9 months older than Dany which means that its impossible for Dany to have been born during the rebellion

Man I love your videos. I haven't read the books yet so I can't really join in the discourse. However they seem well reasoned, researched and are quite entertaining. I have watched dozens of channels and yours is one of my favorites! Keep up the great work!

What about her vision of the Red Wedding? This vision definitely came to pass- so maybe not all visions are false.

The "perfumed seneschal" is the ship is the Selaesori Qhoran." A "seneschal" is a steward of a castle or a governor or administrative officer." The Red Priest Moqorro tells Tyrion that the name of their ship, the Selaesori Qhoran is translated as "Fragrant Steward": a "Qhoran" is "steward or magister" and "selaesori" is 'imbued with a pleasant aroma... Fragrant... Flowery." Tyrion liked to call the shop he "Stinky Steward"' but Moqorro corrected him, saying: "Fragrant Steward." Therefore, "perfumed seneschal" = "Selaesori Qhoran" Quaithe has warned Daenerys to beware of the ship carrying her "Old Bear" Jorah Mormont, Tyrion Lannister, Penny, Penny's Dog, and Pretty the Pig.

Hi Preston Jacobs, big fan of your series. Good production quality and you have improve a lot as a voice-actor when reading quotes since the early videos. I'm currently re-reading FFC preparing myself for season 5 of the TV show and something caught my attention regarding Dornes' geography... there is a place just outside Sunspear called or referred to as "Shadow City". So, I was wondering if we can read all Quaithe's prophecies as going south to Dorne and pass beneath this city (through dungeons perhaps) and find the TRUTH there instead of going to Ashai, hell! maybe she is hinting where the place with the "red door" is!. After all, we all know the sweetest limes, oranges and lemons are from Dorne and not Braavos.

Ok so I have a few theories about the perfumed seneschal, Quaithe being Ashara and why Arthur Dayne's body was never returned. I think the meaning of the PS prophecy might be found in Tyrion's story. At some point, Tyrion embarks on a ship whose name Tyrion translates to "The Stinking Chamberlain" (or something of the sort, don't remember the exact translation he settles on). Why even mention the name of that ship if it wasn't important? Now I don't know who else was on that ship but maybe Quaithe has an agent there. As for Arthur and Ashara. I think neither Arthur Dayne didn't die at the Tower of Joy. I think nobody died at the ToJ. Ned's party came to an agreement with the Kingsgate, everybody swore secrecy, and the men who died" there actually went to Essos to protect baby Dany. Ned then went to see Ashara, told her the secret, and she left to Essos as well to join her brother. After all, it is said that she died by jumping from a tower into the see. That could be a metaphor for Ashara actually crossing the sea.

I've been stalking your channel for updates! You're my favorite GoT theorist, I can't believe you've caused me to doubt R+L=J! I love your videos, I'll watch whatever you put out! You have any theories of how the series is going to end?

Thank you, Preston, for another awesome upload! I'm totally stoked about the Littlefinger one!!

Watching these videos, knowing that the book isn't out yet and that the mediocre show is spoiling us the ending, makes me sad.

brandon seemed like the kind of man who slept around a lot. he was passionate and hot-headed. i wouldn't be surprised if he at some point wanted ashara who may have had a secret relationship with ned

Love the eerie introduction, perfect for Quaithe. It would be brilliant for Quaithe to be Ashara Dayne, if Ashara had faked her death -she would need to hide her face and change her persona to evade suspicion. Being Ashara, she would be one of the few who knew the truth about Dany. If she is the one sending Dany visions (or at least somehow involved) the blue rose at The Wall may be the composite of the hope of a mother, a suggestion that Dany, the daughter of Liana, can and will help Jon at The Wall -who is Dany's cousin and, like her, -is a bastard taken away from one's parents (deepening the bond between Dany and Jon). Another thing I love about L + R = D, and B + A = J: Jon, being Brandon's son (especially if he were legitimized), would give Jon more claim over Winterfell than Ned and his children. This factoid would burden Ned's conscience as he takes what is actually Jon's. Furthermore, when Jon takes the Black, Ned would feel relief on two levels: 1) He will assume no harm will come to Jon there. 2) ** Jon willingly gave-up any claim to land and titles, this would ease Ned's conscience for taking what would rightly belong to Brandon's heir. Ned's somber demeanor indicates, in my opinion, that he is carrying a complex, guilt-heavy burden involving more than just Jon, Liana, and Catelyn. G.R.R.M is complex, life is complex. L + R = J is too simplistic for G.R.R.M's intellectual-emotional-creative genius and talent. I think you really pick up what G.R.R.M. is putting down, brilliantly. Interesting and thought provoking as always. Fantastic Holiday Treat! Wish you could produce audio-books of ASOIAF, you have a very talented speaking style and vocal range. Very entertaining and likable. Strong Work, looking forward to Little Finger, he is a dirty monkey. Great production -the timing of your visuals, and the visuals that you selected are perfect. Each production that you release gets better and better.

Thanks for sharing your ideas. They are well thought out and have expanded my own ideas. It's amazing how much I haven't really absorbed from these remarkable books.

For all we know the 3 dragons could be danys lightbringer

I was waiting for this for such a long time , well done , can't wait for the next video !!!

LITTLEFINGER!!!!!!!!!!

YES!! Finally the little finger video is coming out! can't wait. Keep the good work, love your channel!

Why does Quaithe need to be Ashara Dayne? Why does every mysterious character need to have some highborn identity? Blah blah blah Quaithe is Ashara, Daario is Benjen, Howland Reed is the High Septon and so on. It'd be tacky if GRRM played every hand like that.

Oh man, that one was deep. I just finished GoT and ACoK and now I have to reread them again. Great references again, you always show where your ideas come from. You my be reaching here but you are discussing parts that not alot of people are talking about. I can't wait for the Littlefinger vid, that guy is a master schemer. I would like more details on the visions in the House of the Undieing, you went alittle fast over that part for me, but that is just my opinion. Other than that, great video, love you work, and keep it up.

The show has been very focused on Jon and his parentage. Lyanna is mentioned where as Ashara, not so much. Therefore it wouldn't really be a big deal for the reveal to be for Jon to be Ashara's and Brandon's son because show watchers wouldn't care. Jon himself wouldn't have anything in him that would be detrimental to the overall impact that the show is clearly placing him in. Preston says in another video that Ned is haunted by his "promise me" dreams because it is about Dany. I disagree. He's haunted because he has lied to Jon and his family for Jon's whole life, making him think he was an accident; an outsider to the family (as well as being a sore spot in Ned's marriage). To the point Jon feels going to the Wall will make him something more than a bastard. Ned clearly wants to tell Jon the truth but he can't tell anyone because Robert could want him killed. Not stopping Jon from going to the Wall solidifies Jon's "un-importance", which seems to be a big trend throughout his entire life when it comes to his portrayal on the show. Jon mentions and thinks about his mother on the show a lot in the beginning. If the woman wasn't known to the show-watchers in some capacity then why would it matter? And Ned won't even tell Jon if his mother is dead or alive. That would make sense if his mother was Lyanna because the less information everyone (Robert) has the better. But if it was Ashara, then what would be the harm in at least telling him that much without divulging who she was if Ned didn't want to. If Jon was Ned's nephew, and Ned loving his brother so much, he wouldn't have to lie about Jon's parentage, and being as honorable as Ned is, he'd could simply groom Jon to take over Winterfell as honor and duty would state. But then, would Jon even had been able to take over Winterfell, because unless Brandon and Ashara married, he'd still be a bastard. It makes a lot more sense for Ned to come up with the entire lie of making Jon seem un-important to keep it from being known that he is part Targaryen because of Robert's hatred of Rhaegar and all others. If Dany was Rhaegar's and Lyanna's it wouldn't be a big deal within the show at all. She's already a Targ. GRRM said that some of the roads may be different when it comes to how the show and the books tell the story, but that they will ultimately share the same ending, so when it comes to major plot points, the show is going to only showcase information that is a big deal and important to the end of the story with the limited amount of time they are given. R+L=J would be huge in that there would be two known Targaryens in the world and Jon would finally have all of his questions answered when and however he finds out everything as well as a more definitive destiny if prophecies are to be fulfilled. Dany and him are the main keys to the ending.

1:47 scared the shit out of me for some reason. Had trouble falling asleep, saw this face wherever I looked, lol ::S

What if Azor A'hai is not one person, but rather its a few people,

I feel like Dany has already fulfilled the prophecy. She already killed her lover (smothering Drogo) and forged her 'sword of fire' by hatching her dragons in his pyre. I feel like Quaithe already believes Dany is Azor Ahai and has her 'Lightbringer' already. This part doesn't need more fulfilling, the fortune telling is more about manipulating Dany than it's about getting her to fulfill the Azor Ahai prophecy.

Preston what if quathe is ashara dayne??? Did they find her body?

Easily my most anticipated videos. Keep it up!

Is it possible that Jon and Dany are fraternal twins? Born from R+L? Each taking on different traits from the respective houses?

Another great video. You gotta love how many possiblites GRRM has given us with this series.

R+L=D doesn't fit. it can't be true. amongst other holes in the thoery, most noticably the timeline doesn't allow it. dany is too young - she was born on dragonstone *almost a year* after lyanna died (way down in the ToJ half a continent away!!). and there were witnesses. viserys fled with his pregnant mother to dragonstone where they remained for months and was old enough to remember, and they were also guarded by the targaryen forces there. these forces later turned against them when robert had won and stannis was on his way, so if there was some conspiracy SOMEHOW going on they would have happily given it up to win themselves favour with robert. williem darry was their only saviour there - that and the storms amongst which dany was born that delayed stannis's fleet from getting there sooner. that someway somehow R+L got together and holed up in the ToJ completely isolated from everything and had dany...but dany was smuggled off to dragonstone amidst the worst storms in history and hid there with no one knowing, and then passed off as a newborn baby despite being just shy of a year old?????? i don't know if you've spent much time around babies but that's a HUGE difference! and all of this seems to be based on nothing? at least it's not covered in this video anyway....you just say "she dreams she's rhaegar. so as rhaegar's daughter..." - sorry but that was a hugh WTF moment for me when you blurted that one out out of nowhere! there's nothing to suggest she's rhaegar's daughter whatsoever - only symbolism of "the dragon". "rhaegar was the last dragon" etc etc as dany grows and strengthens and eventually brings the real creatures themselves back into the world....that's just symbolic. she idolises her noble dragon prince brother in a way she can't with anyone else (because they're pricks and literally fucking crazy), but they are still siblings. there IS a strong bond of familial connection there, but father and daughter??? no. it can't possibly make sense. and it's not needed. AA was prophesised to come from the line of aerys and rhaella - that was the only reason they married in the first place. neither wanted to and both objected, but were forced into it. dany could be AA without rhaegar ever even being born..... dany was conceived when aerys raped rhaella after burning one of his hands alive (per jaimie's recollection) after the war was already well underway. that timeline backed up by evidence from the books fits 100% perfectly....i don't get why anyone would contest it?

Can't wait for the Littlefinger video, one of my favorite characters because he is soooooo good at playing the game of thrones. Thanks for all the videos!

I think the Catelyn scene about Ned drinking from the cup and Brandon being dead is tied to Bar de Porto's theory that Robb isn't Ned's son and that Catelyn might have been pregnant with Brandon's child when she and Ned married. And drinking from the cup is the symbol of Ned taking on all the roles that were supposed to be his brother's. I.e. Lord of Winterfel, husband of Catelyn and father of Robb.

I belive that Kraken and dark flame are Victarion and Moqorro aka Black Flame - potential dragon stealers (magic horn); lion and griffin wolud be Tyrion and Jon Connington - advisors; and sun's son and murmmur's dragon are Quentyn and Aegon - suitors. Of course Tyrion, Jon and Aegon never made it to meet Dany, but they intended to, at the time.

The R+L=D theory doesn't fit because Dany has recessive traits if she was at all kin to Lyanna her genes would of masked over her Targaryen genes. Targaryens would marry each other to keep their blood lines pure for that very reason they did not want to dilute the better genes which to them was features of old Valyria.

1st, great video! I've seen it a few times, and it's all great insight, cuz I'm just now reading the series for the 1st time, now, and since I don't mind spoilers, and I like looking out for some of fan notions about the characters, or details in the story that I might have missed otherwise...supercool! 👍

Are you going to make a mention of Daemon Blackfyre II at some point as well? There's so much that strikes me odd about him in the Dunk & Egg tales, which makes me suspect the whole second Blackfyre Rebellion was just a clever ruse, such as the fact his bannermen never showed him any support, and the sword Blackfyre was still with Bittersteel in the free cities. People always speak of the female Blackfyre line as the only possible survivors, but the death of Daemon Blackfyre II isn't ever mentioned. Appearantly Bloodraven brought him to the Black Cells to keep him hostage and prevent any future rebellions, yet it didn't take that long before the next brother in line decided to try as well. And Daemon Blackfyre II is then lost from record from that point. Later, in GoT, a Faceless Man (Jaquen H'qar) appears in the black cells, with no previous record or reason for why he would be in there. And then the Blackfyres keep invading and dying, yet at no point do they actually bring the Blackfyre sword with them to battle again. Just as Daemon Blackfyre II it is lost from record. Why is this such an interesting connection? The Dunk & Egg tales in question centers around a tournament with Lord Ambrose' dragon egg as the main prize, and Jaquen H'qar spend most of his time after finding his freedom with a group of sellswords roaming the area surrounding Harrenhal, which happens to be the area Lord Ambrose' hall lay in before Bloodraven had it torn down, burnt and the ground salted. There is no mention of what was actually done with the dragon egg, except Bloodraven subtly claiming he might have had it stolen with the help of the children of the forest. And after disappearing when he helped Arya, the suspected new identity of Jaqen is last seen in Oldtown, thought to be looking for information on hatching dragons. Another interesting note perhaps in regards to the Targaryens and thus also Blackfyres, is that they traditionally marry in the family. However, children like Bloodraven and Bittersteel were also produced with non-Targaryens. Some of the key-features on these children seem to spring from their mothers, and not their fathers. Suggesting the Targaryen gene carry stronger from a female parent then a male parent, or as with Robert B. The seed is not so strong. Daemon Blackfyre however had a Targaryen mother, and Targaryen traits. Assuming this connection to be true for the Targaryen bloodline, it would be a safe assumption that the seed of Daemon Blackfyre II (Yes, I know he was suspected to be gay) would not show strong Targaryen features in the offspring. Thus the more interesting part for potential candidates would be basing ourselves on history. One person that would be about the right age to be the son of Daemon Blackfyre II, is a sellsword from Braavos who settled on the fingers in the Vale, Petyr Baelish grandfather. Again a man with no further history, apart from being a sellsword from the free cities, specifically Braavos where the Faceless Men belong. Could Jaqen H'qar have been hired to impersonate Daemon Blackfyre II in the second Blackfyre rebellion, and have stayed hidden in the black cells ever since? Not necessarily, but still not unlikely. Could Petyr Baelish thus somehow be, for example, a descendant of the real Daemon Blackfyre II, and one generation later a female Reyne? Not necessarily, but also still not unlikely. Could the sellsword from Braavos have been gifted the fingers, and his knighthood and the position for his sons by Lord Corbray, because Daemon Blackfyre is considered to have sacrificed his life and his rebellion on the battlefield to save his opponent in battle, Gwayne Corbray, and saving Lady Forlorn for them? Seems legit, especially considering how well the Corbrays seems to have been doing Littlefingers bidding, even since been before he became Lord of anything but the fingers... Why is it worth investigating such a wild shot in the dark? Well, if we look at the implications for Aryas storyline it gives her being in Braavos much more of a purpose then just watching Sam and Gilly passing through, and a lot of wild guesses on how she and Jon will be happily reunited despite all odds. It give us insight into how the Faceless Men operate and their codex, so we know in such an eventuality the Blackfyres would need to provide a sacrifice worth the seven kingdoms. And what they held the most dear is what they considered their very proof of right to rule, the Blackfyre sword. So any possible way for GRRM to reveal this in a sensible way is that someone must learn this knowledge from the Faceless Men, who are likely the only other source to be able to confirm such a claim save the claimants themselves. So this would actually give Aryas storyline in Braavos a purpose from a storytelling perspective, as opposed to being completely and utterly pointless so far in the book other then to have her survive and make the reader feel good, which we know GRRM doesn't really care much about. And as for the Reynes, his features perfectly match the Reynes, and Littlefinger has been very apt about bringing down various Lannisters without getting on their bad side. He's very careful about how he does it, but has ultimately been behind ultimately every disaster the Lannisters have been subjected to so far. And the Reynes were known to be good with coin, just as LF, so it doesn't seem like an unlikely female line. It also explains how a Lord of the Fingers to be would feel entitled to duel the Lord of Winterfell to be over the Lady of Riverrun to be, if he's even telling the truth about that being the catalyst for his scheming nature. Something I also suspect it might not be.

6:42 "We got to get you, back to Asshai!".

OH COME ON!! Look how neatly and with what great speed you lightly touched on the 'blue flower growing from a wall of ice" prophecy. The fact that you didn't even MENTION that this does seem to have some sort of apparent connection to Jon, if he is the son of R+L, just shows that you are unfortunately rather willing to twist whatever imagery/words you need to to fit them into your theory. I like your videos, and I'm not looking to hate on you, but that just wreaks of a willingness to blind oneself to/ignore various cues towards other theories that oppose yours, and that's disappointing. Make your theories with your own references, but always maintain your honesty. *Omission is almost as dishonest as lying*, and for major cues like that one, for the sake of remaining unbiased, you really should at least mention the obvious conclusion that is often taken from said cue, and then add your rebuttal or alternative, rather than brush it over so as to not promote any strikes against your own beloved theory. Come on Preston, you know better, and I know you can do better than that! If you were really just putting your theories out there, but always simultaneously maintaining the idea that you use as your disclaimer at the end of most videos that "I'm probably wrong on at least half of this stuff, it's just all for fun", then you would have included a small mention saying: "Admittedly, this prophecy is one of the visual cues in the book that most strongly points to Jon as possibly being the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna. Personally I think it's a decoy, made specifically to point to Jon at first glance, because I actually think it means ...." And then given your suggestions, closing with something like, "But admittedly, it does certainly seem to point to R+L=J, but hey, that's the beauty of this series - almost every major theory has some pretty good references behind it, so I guess we'll see!" But no, you just merrily skipped over one of the strongest and most obvious instances of prophecy of the entire series! Sigh...

I came across this while re-reading ASOS, at the end of Jon's 5th chapter after he escapes the wildlings it says " he rode til dawn, while the stars stared down like eyes" This could be his mother ashard dayne Awesome video btw!

She is NOT Rhaegars daughter. Full stop! She is Stormborn!

Ive been anxiously awaiting ur next vid, keep it up!

I really like your theories, well spoken, well informed, well delivered :) Your Videos are awesome. I am looking forward to the littlefinger video, and i am super happy that you are putting out so many videos, in so short time :)

"But Danny is always wrong." I love, it I love everything about it.

“Ugh, effing little finger!” 😘👏👏👏

i love delving into quaithe/dany/prophecies! its sooo fascinating, even if these theories do turn out to be completely wrong

Hey. Just had to thank you for posting these. Love the work you put into the videos. Great material! :D

I really enjoy your videos, you make interesting mini series about really interesting topics

Confirmed Vaes Dothrak on this weeks show.

Preston, with every video of yours I watch, I cry out my language's equivalent of "Holy fucking shit!" You have amazing insight and all the theories make an awful lot of sense. Damn! The longer you look, the deeper it all seems.

Great video, difficult theory to become true but you have many points to support it! Looking forward for the next one

This video was excellent. Thanks :)

I agree with almost none of your theories, but I still enjoy watching your videos.

Okay Odd theory, but here we go. What if there being many prince's that were promised is not so that they can team up. But tackle many different things at once. Jon at the wall tackles the rising Winter. While Danny takes on the shadow of Asshia that threatens to cover the land in the endless night. And the third takes on the Summer. Finally bringing balance back to the world. Best guess for that would be going back to Valaria for that one though.

Good stuff man...all of your asoiaf theories are pretty darn good.

Another great video, Preston. Thanks.