A Song of Ice and Fire: The Littlefinger Debt Scheme Part 1 

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yeah and they call preston “tin foil” lmao

Preston is the only theory crafter I respect ✊

Now that it’s been 5 years I hope you stopped encouraging cancerous content

@@evanlittle3473 whos content is cancerous?

Very true. Easy to deal with.

I'm not sure I'm convinced that Littlefinger is working towards Stannis on the Throne either but could he be trying to convince ppl he isn't because as his quote says he wants to keep his foes confused. Stannis does have low born Davos as one of his most trusted advisors because Davos tells him the truth. Littlefinger is also low born and might be able to convince Stannis he is a straight shooter. Also Stannis is going to owe the Iron Bank and lot and littlefinger might be appealing due to his past dealings with the Bank, or his connections to Bravos, or maybe even the Bank will directly give LF a nod to Stannis. "A man with no motive is a man no-one suspects. Always keep your foes confused; if they don't know who you are, what you want - they can't know what you plan to do next."

Blood Raven I would agree with your point, but At present it seems you wrote that under an assumption that Littlefinger and Stannis had never met... Stannis knows littlefinger, And It is reported they mutually dislike each other. Stannis may find common cause with littlefinger regardless, Due to the connection with the iron bank,.,. but Most likely not. And not from lack of Littlefinger trying to toy with him . Just Stannis knows what type of crook he is,, I think It unlikely it's for Aegon,,, But if it was, would be awesome... (far fetched, don't look for it.) I have a feeling he hired a bunch of Sellswords and is planning on sitting the iron throne with his Vale Lords, His River Lords. and his sellswords. (edit: could be going for handship through Harry the Heir being king, But I don't think His ego would have done all this for anyone but himself.) But Aegon and his return are either going to help his confusion factor, or they both are going to be trying to win the same ground and inevitably Clash/unite.\

Stannis would abolish littlefinger's brothels so he would never support stannis.

@@TheGmdMaster Littlefinger doesn't care about brothels his end goal isn't to be a pimp.

He wants to be Thumb

*become Haha, good one 😂👍🏾

Lmao

@@frogwhisperer2067 I want be thumb

Okay, I'll give is a shot.

Preston Jacobs Thanks very much! :D

CbbTyrone yea thats a good idea!

Lol yeah i got a bit lost in those quotes - as in who was saying them. At first I was thinking, Arya said that? haha

Preston Jacobs Not instead of, please. It would be nice to find where the quotes can be found. Without a chapter reference it's litterally thousands of pages to scroll through.

Doubt it, George already said he has his endgame for the series prepared years in advance and there might be loose ends intentionally left to let his readers ponder and speculate. Heard this on Reddit BTW.

***** You guys do know I'm joking here?

Martin is pretty isolationist when it comes to his fans and thoughts on his work. He said so himself that he never goes on the blogs or anything. So its not very likely that George will take advice from anyone other than himself (and his editors/close friends). So, if Preston actually gets most of his theory's right on this channel, than he's a boss.

sounds funny but GRR Martin once said that he stopped using anything GOT relaten on the internet so avoid this happening :D

Naratuga T Yeah, to be exact, Martin did state that after he released the first book, he went online when the internet truly started to bloom and looked up some blogs on fans discussing his book. And for the majority, peoples' theories were wrong (Which in my opinion is the R+L=J theory, since it is the most popular). But there were still a select few who got it right, which is what really troubled Martin, wondering if he should change up his story a bit. He decided not to, and that is why he stays as far away as he can now from thorums and shit. So that no one sways his original plans.

SciFi FantasyGirl What happens if the ladder was on fire, when white walkers come

books from Windblown climb faster. :-)

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I think in the end, Ned's acceptance or refusal ends in the same place: the bribing of the gold cloaks and the transfer of Harrenhal. All things being equal, Littlefinger would allow Ned to live.

Preston Jacobs Also, LF wasn't the one who got Harrenhal, Tyrion gave it to him in CoK. Originally it went to Slynt (I am 90% sure, but definitely someone Tyrion sent to the wall for betraying Ned/consolidating power)

Eddie F You're correct, it was slimy ol' Slynt who originally got Harrenhal. Now Littlefinger has it, but can someone remind me as to what happened to Lady Whent, the original lady of house Harrenhal?

awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/House_Whent

My opinion is no chance in that because little finger wants ned die if he alive his life is in danger, within 6 months after taking the hand position he find the truth about incest and many but cat made ned to believe him and that finally leads to death

true. we can only be sure of his loyalty to himself. noone else is guarenteed to have loyalty from him.

FenuxFX Littlefingers only love littlefinger

All I did, I did for myself

He is certainly pretty darn interesting. :)

Looking forward to part 2!

Annalisa K I hope that he reveals his master plan and everything he has accomplished up to that point...right before Arya and stabs him, after Sansa has already poisoned him...double death by the Starks...Good enough for the prick!!! I do still love that guy. Greatest antagonist ever!!!

Connor Duquette Littlefinger *sits on iron throne* First ever bus: *vroom*

Or will it be the completion of his plan?

Preston Jacobs I don't understand why people always underestimate Littlefinger. I bet most people didn't even understand when LF told Sansa some people thought they were players in the game of thrones, yet they were actually pawns, he was directly talking about Sansa without her knowing.

I agree. Folks must remember -- all of the Stark children have been learning lessons, and Sansa is no different. Sansa learned the most important lessons from Cersei herself: "A most powerful weapon a woman has is between her legs."

***** Is this from the new chapter?

Sandra is Littlefingers daughter she is not a stark ;-)

Thank you. It's fun to see everyone's excitement.

Exactly. He somehow plays it cool. How does he do it?

I think that Littlefinger's main drive is his wish to use, confuse and dominate everyone around him. I don't think he has a very long run master plan like Varys or the Martells, rather he thrives confusing everyone around him. And I don't think he is flawless in the execution of his plans; killing Lysa wasn't much of a calculated move, but about disposing of one of his chess pieces that went rogue.

davedark27 So he is the olympic champion of The Game, and does it for his own amusement :)

MightyMagyarz exactly :) when considering his background it makes so much sense that he is always looking to be the one pulling the strings behind the shadows, switching sides when he sees fit and disposing of anyone he deems worthless. He has very strong weapons such as economy and deception and he uses them in order to be the one that plays everyone.

His pattern with Eddard and then the Tyrells was convincing on this point. He seems to broker deals with one side, and then turn around and do it for the other side. Nonetheless, all this shows is that he's doveish when it comes to outright war. This might suggest that he has plans that involve monetary policy that need a coherent government for at least a while longer.

Eh kinda but not really

lol

well we know how that ended in real life.

I don't think people quite understand what capitalism is, lol.

except feudalistic societies had banks as well. It's not just capitalist societies who have banks

Good catch!

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LittlePenny Kings! Awesome...

Honestly, I think the Crown's actual debt is half the size, but not on paper. With Littlefinger pulling the old investing failure, he can skim and skim and skim. Their is paperwork to back the money up, so it falls on the crown. But who did the paperwork? Littlefinger. Investing in non-existent businesses is even more money. Now borrow heavily from the two biggest lenders around, the Iron Bank and the Lannisters, on behalf of the crown, skim 50% spend the rest in shoddy, unproductive ways. Now you've weakened the Lannisters and forced them into a position of having to constantly prop up the Crown with money, armies, lavish weddings, etc. and you have a deception of strength they have to constantly show as well, which cost money too. This is one reason for the alignment with the Tyrells. Plus it is also an automatic buffer between them and Dorne. With the IB collecting monies all over, all the other houses will be begging for loans to prop them up, and after Stannis has worn down his mercenaries and volunteer forces against the Boltons, he can swoop in and save the day, with the house Stark already in his grasp. With the Lannisters already having Edmure Tully, the Riverlands in ruin and he being named Lord Paramour of the Trident and Harrenhal, he in name can collect some of the more desperate houses with a little gold, as he has done in the Vale. At this point, he can have an invasion by the IB's peoples up that river, having a war take place in which he can twist and turn and then to stop the war, an agreement is reached if they will name Littlefinger King and the Lannisters dismiss the Crowns debt. He can pay them a couple million back of their own money, which he stole and he is now King, who can use is abysmally small penis to shaft which ever wench he fancies. I don't think he was counting on White Walkers and Dragons though, and let us not forget their is an Assassin to be on the loose shortly.

The big question is whether the Sealord, the Bank and (shutter) the House of Black and White are all on the same team.

I hope you will address that at some point. BTW, I listen to your stuff for my night time rest. Except my wife wants to talk about what you're saying! No sleep.

Better than the war of the nine finger kings. Poor guys.

What's the next step of your master plan?

Kingrhem Taking over the vale WITH SOME SURVIVORS

TELL ME ABOUT DAYNE! WHY DOES HE WEAR THE SWORD?

Thanks a bunch!

Peter stays big pimpin

That's something to ponder on.

Joshua Pinals I'll drink to that... lol!

LF did what through Penny exactly?

You are very good, Malumultimus, very, very good. Have you been visiting me at night with a glass candle?

OMG Mal, this is genius!

I completely agree

Biggest twist: everyone thinks little finger is planning to kill sweetrobin, but actually he wants his son to inherit the entire country

Thanks. In the beginning, I was trying to be a little edgier and funnier and that can come off as douchie. I suppose in some ways it worked as those videos had a much higher viewerships. I was also looking at more big-picture issues. But in the end, what I love is the analysis and so do the core viewers. So, that's where the change is.

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I hope I don't disappoint!

Preston Jacobs do you have an estimate as to when part 2 will be available?

***** Oh no he's going to start being in the same position as GRRM. :P

nooooo :(

Hey, part two came out eventually. Easy for me to say six years later.

first world problems at its finest

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Easy he lied to get a Stark back to rally the North against the Boltons.

But Dragonfire can.

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Oh, the shiney sax would probably make him have seizures. Poor little guy.

Preston Jacobs paint it a dull color. Sweet Bobby As music career wil not falter

The Ironborn are high on the list.

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Thanks, coming soon.

As people always say about me, I start out grounded and then go crazy. So, hold on. :)

they have my consensus on that one. hehe

I think they have a mint, like the machinery to stamp silver coins, but I don’t know if they directly own the silver mines.

@@TobeWilsonNetwork I remember reading that Lord Manderly came to ask Bran and Cessel to ask Robb if he could both start building a fleet and create a mint because White Harbor was the logical place to do so.

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I think there is definitely something going on with Braavosi politics that we haven't been privy to. But I also think Littlefinger is very invested in Westerosi history.

Ha ha, thanks a bunch! Have a good time on the slopes!

I hope I don't disappoint. :)

That's the way I'm seeing it. Dragon-haters against dragon-lovers.

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Thanks. Part 2 is coming soon.

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I think that's definitely part of it. Littlefinger is a self-made man and surrounds himself with self-made men and is from a city of former slaves. Yet, he isn't respected because he is low born. I wonder how this has affected his psyche.

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