A spaceship in the basement

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Elite: Dangerous - spaceship simulator with 3 projectors
Projectors: 2 x BenQ TH681 Full HD 3D DLP (sides), 1x BenQ TH682ST (middle)
Touch-Interface: Selfbulit dashboard with 5 Roccat Power Grids on Treckstor Ventos 10.1 Surftabs
Touch-Monitor: View Sonic TD2420
Voice-Interface: VoiceAttack Software mit Voice-Feedback (not in use in this video)
Headtracker: TrackIR (not in use in the video)
Gesture control: LeapMotion Controller
HOTAS Joystick: Saitek X52 Pro
Keyboard: SteelSeries Apex Gaming Keyboard
Grafik: Crossfire 2x Sapphire RADEON R9 290 Tri-X OC, connected with AMD Eyefinity, Resolution 5760 x 1080
Sound: Logitech z 5500 5.1
Event-listener and macro editor: Autohotkey
Links in the video:
Die Friedrich Nix Show: / doctordigital
Deutsches ED Forum: www.elitedangerous.de
My Roccat Power Grids: www.roccat.org/de-DE/Products/...

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31 окт 2015

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@vfosterm 8 лет назад

leave it to a German to build a spaceship sim in his basement....

@mapesdhs597 6 лет назад

I'm surprised it wasn't a real one. I expect better from German engineering! 8) Btw, if you're really interested in such things, this video is amazing re what it shows about the tech developed before the digital age: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--EQqfxiGgd8.html

@themaughan3378 3 года назад

So this is what German Engineers do in their free time.

@nicosteffen364 3 года назад

I actually was thinkind about something like that since i played Aces of the Pacific in the 90´s! Sadly i could not afford all the studd i would need yet. For me it would be X3 Terran Conflict, must be awesome to fight pirates, Xenon and Khaak Clusters with such a set. That game even includes near earth sectors, but only in space, when you come too close to a planet you die. Hmm, B5 mod would be awesome, going to war with a Whitestar or even Starfury.... with that kind of set, mindblowing.

@borgri5871 3 года назад

nazi* derp

@themaughan3378 3 года назад

@@borgri5871 WTF is that supposed to mean? Lol, literally the first thing that went through my head when I saw your comment was the derpy guns on a WWII German Battleship... Then I realized that this thread isn't a conversation about German Battleships in the game, World of Warships... You trying to bait some rage with that comment? Perhaps elaborate a bit more or someone may misunderstand.

@user-rk7qk8fr8o 3 года назад

Imagine his wife going: "This is ridiculous i can't believe i let you do this and now you want me to try it... oh... wait.. show me that boost again.."

@stonehengemaca 3 года назад

This guy is definitely single.. And is also a great advertisement for being single 🤔

@TVNDRA 3 года назад

@@stonehengemaca I highly doubt that. Man has his own house, likely a very good job, wife and kids, but the kids are in college or something, and now he’s had all this time on his hands to make something like this. My dad built a mini driving range (golf practice shit) in his basement when all of us 5 kids finally left the house. Shit costed like 20k

@stonehengemaca 3 года назад

@@TVNDRA Hah cool ✊ was just a joke fellow 👍

@TVNDRA 3 года назад

@@stonehengemaca ope.🤔 The Driving range is still sick nasty though 😎

@stonehengemaca 3 года назад

@@TVNDRA Follow though, keep your eyes on the ball..... and follow through

@tanksaawk 3 года назад

You don't need a VR headset, when you are inside the VR headset...

@HuntressMedia 3 года назад

Pretty amazing. Lots of work! I wish the game was up to par with all that

@FullFledged2010 3 года назад

But imagine this with proper AR 🤯

@companyoflosers 3 года назад

vr headset would be cheaper, easier and would yield better in-game performance at things like combat.

@FullFledged2010 3 года назад

@@companyoflosers But then you wouldn't have real hands on control. The thing with AR is that you can use and see the complicated button boxes and control panels in a VR environment. Best of both worlds

@companyoflosers 3 года назад

@@FullFledged2010 my vr setup still has a hotas setup. I even bought one specifically with the same button layout as the in-game one.

@lendiforma4354 3 года назад

To future generations: If you guys have a time machine there, go back in time and give the guy a real spaceship already

@corinthiansdaniels3728 3 года назад

That will destroy the timeline... can't be done sadly

@KonichiWawa 3 года назад

No time travel...ever. If so we would obviously already know about it unless it's a forward only prospect and indeed we are waiting on technology and a greater understanding of the universe. Same for aliens, we would already know unless FTL is indeed impossible in which case we are all of us on our own little islands separated by a sea vaster than the mind can truly fathom.

@kelvincasing5265 3 года назад

@@KonichiWawa Well we see time distortion every day as with GPS system. So forward is certainly possible.

@juliap.5375 3 года назад

@@KonichiWawa About aliens - why you decide we must know anything? It is possibly to write whole books of misc forms of live which can travel everywhere even with almost our “slow’ technologies (e.g. robots to which was loaded consciousness or they can be immortal and time for them means nothing), but more likely they are just much more developed and we for them like ants, maybe else one out billions form of ants.

@KonichiWawa 3 года назад

@@juliap.5375 I wish you were right Julie I really do. I consider myself an eternal optimist but I would be ignoring the reality of physics. It takes too long to travel between different solar systems. You can reply "What about ..." the thing is if you really look at it the idea of interstellar travel isn't such a problem if you look at our progress but the issue is how easy it is for civilizations to wiped out. Ours could be gone within the timespan of minutes or even repeatedly reduced over and over again. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt on us developing some means of artificial gravity. An astronaut who spent a year in space was so gravely affected. He even had developed an issue with his blood flowing backwards in certain parts of his body.

@THExROYSTER 3 года назад

The shit dudes do just to escape their wives. Congratulations, bro. You win.

@TheRedRaven_ 3 года назад

lmao

@jonq8714 3 года назад

I built a woodshop in the garage. To each their own.

@Rhythmicons 3 года назад

Who wants to escape their wife? My wife is awesome.

@devendietrich3445 3 года назад

@@Rhythmicons A little distance is healthy.

@Rhythmicons 3 года назад

@@devendietrich3445 Let's be real. The overbearing, nagging wife cliche has ancient roots. A lot of guys complain about it but secretly like that shit lol. Don't ask me about my man cave lol.

@mitrooper 8 лет назад

Help... I can't find my jaw. Great setup you've got there my friend.

@death_parade 3 года назад

Jaw? He got eaten by that titan.

@cali9fiftyone 3 года назад

Very impressive! Lots of people mentioning VR in here but I feel like setting this up is half the fun!

@user-pl4iq3sb6v 2 года назад

I can see this game being great to play in a gaming pod with all the lights and buttons done up like a cockpit. Battletech/Mechwarrior used this concept back in the 80's.

@overlycreative1 7 лет назад

This is both enviable and inspirational. Thanks for sharing your thinking, planning and construction with us.

@apathtrampledbydeer8446 3 года назад

The video gave a kind of a perspective of everything and almost how it must feel like to sit there. Very cool.

@BlazingOwnager 3 года назад

It's amazing how many video game franchises have survived since the very early 1980s. Movies and books wish they could maintain a franchise that long.

@echoview 6 лет назад

2 years after vid goes up and still just discovered for the first time. You make my Vive look archaic in comparison. Outstanding work, CMDR o7

@gort5583 4 года назад

This just doesn't get old! Love it! Well done my friend.

@realmwatters2977 3 года назад

We need more home builds like this! this truly amazing!

@kitfitzgeraldgiu4148 3 года назад

Whatt an impressive setup. I admire your creative talents and technical know-how in constructing this amazing simulator!

@Temprano6t4 3 года назад

Every now and then I'm reminded that I'm only play acting at being a true gamer. Serious props, Commander! The latter part of the video even made me nostalgic for Frontier: First Encounters, the literal "Gateway" to my 25-year Elite addiction.

@SvenPrime 3 года назад

If he had an environmental projection system, projecting onto a seamless, curved wall, this would be even more mind-blowing.

@elmalloc 3 года назад

how can we create a curved wall?

@SeldomFollower 3 года назад

I've always dreamed having a set up like this. I hope someday! Love this man. Someday in the future maybe this will be a reality!

@Jusaxi 7 лет назад

Oh my God that's a sick setup!! I really like to watch what you crazy people do with your time and money. Nicely done!! :D

@OG.x3ntaur 3 года назад

Wow what an awesome setup. The experience must be out of this world. Looks incredible.

@MichaelWerle 8 лет назад

That is so cool! Just a shame ED can't be told that the side-screens are actually angled to be beside the pilot and hence wrap the cockpit around; that would be the best!

@MarkusBoesen 8 лет назад

+Michael Werle YES!!!

@DavidDubord 8 лет назад

+Michael Werle There's a option to leave them on so the camera doesn't switch, i used it with a Occulus Rift.

@arugula22 8 лет назад

This is insane! Coolest thing I have seen all day! Thanks for sharing!

@Ugallardo 5 лет назад

Dude, you are amazing. I hope you are still having a lot of fun with this setup.

@teaddict- 2 года назад

Very nice! I would probably have wanted to find a way to improve the ergonomics of using the overhead touch-screen from a seated position, but that is genuinely the only thing I can think of that could be improved. I'm very impressed with how little distortion there is between the three panels, i.e. straight lines look a lot more straight than I would have expected from such a setup. A much belated congratulations on crafting such a fantastic space sim rig!

@norokelt Год назад

Extendable arm holder (or what it's called like). Easy as that. 😉 Here you go 💁

@ianblake8450 3 года назад

This is the coolest fucking thing I've seen in a while... I would never leave the "ship", fantastic work!! Five years later, what changes, if any, have you made??? :)

@ancientmariner7473 6 лет назад

Mucking Fagic! Love the blue Danube docking music, reminds me of 29 years ago!

@maikmeier5032 3 года назад

Actually, 53 years ago, as Stanley Kubrik's 2001 A Space Odyssey movie came out in 1968. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0ZoSYsNADtY.html

@maikmeier5032 3 года назад

@@CARILYNF I know, but their use of the blue danube is directly related to 2001. Not nitpicking, but giving a reference.

@MickRutherford 8 лет назад

Congratulations Markus, that's a spectacular bit of DIY. Personally, I struggle to find time to put up shelves.

@internetthug4209 8 лет назад

Wow. I am absolutely impressed. That had to take a lot of hard work. Good job and thanks for sharing. These are the kinds of videos I love to find on RU-vid. I can't wait to watch your other vids now. I'm glad I saw this first so I know what's going on.. Haha

@S.o.13 3 года назад

5 Jahre später und immer noch erstaunlich wie klasse du das damals schon hinbekommen hast. Wäre ja ne perfekte Männer Höhle für mich wenn man noch ein kleines Tonstudio unterkriegen würde.

@Arcanattg 3 года назад

Imagine having 3 4K AMOLED panels instead of the projectors and having them set up in mosaic

@born2biscuit 3 года назад

imagine all the burn in

@EstrangedSounds 3 года назад

@@born2biscuit after 5-7 years

@udalix 3 года назад

Imagine just using a VR headset and putting yourself in the game, and not just looking at flat screens. Not to mention saving money.

@Arcanattg 3 года назад

@@udalix true

@SAPuddles 3 года назад

@@udalix ED is fantastic in VR, but I find it can get tiring to wear it on my head for long play sessions, and harder to go from HOTAs to keyboard if you dont have an expensive enough stick that has the inputs (like me) -- both have ups and downs

@Novasky2007 3 года назад

Thankyou for sharing, especially the original music as someone who started out on elite on the ZX speccy and an Amstrad it was also a timemachine to my childhood. Thx

@deadbrad 8 лет назад

Bravo, Sir! Your setup looks fantastic, makes me wish I had the space for such a creation. Played Elite on BBC when it was new and I was 8 or 9 up to 13 or 14 and reached deadly rank. I've been imagining for years what a remake would look like and I'm not disappointed. Except for my skill, that is. I'm currently playing on a 32 inch 1080 screen with a 20 year old Sidewinder Pro joystick from Microsoft and am loving it. You however, have taken it to the next level! Thanks for sharing.

@MarkusBoesen 8 лет назад

+deadbrad You play with the old Sidewinder Pro? That is epic^^ Fly safe, Cmdr!

@ArsenioDev 8 лет назад

Holy crap this is AMAZING! I find myself wanting to take this for a flight

@MarkusBoesen 8 лет назад

Hello! The autumn has begun and I moved my 3 projector setup to the basement. Because of a more solid construction there, I was able to add some very cool features and to strengthen the immersion. The video is divided in several parts. Just take a look :-) - part 1: description of the current construction and new features 0:00 - part 2: a short fly around Kobayashi city, including a live demo of the new features 2:18 - part 3: a short look at my point of view, just to admire the additional dashboards in action 4:34 - part 4: an automatic docking sequence from a total point of view, including a special music background 5:33

@BigFatMonster1232 8 лет назад

+Markus B. How much does something like this cost??!

@MarkusBoesen 8 лет назад

Alan Nick The costs are lower than estimated by some websites for my smaller built last year (they estimated 3000 Euros), because whenever it was possible, I took used components. It´s easier to obtain than many people expect, but You have to spend a lot of time do built it. But that´s my hobby...more than to play the game.

@BigFatMonster1232 8 лет назад

Markus B. Well it is truly a great feat! and I will have to make one of these some day as my envy is off the walls!

@degded1692 8 лет назад

Survival Loadout: Gunnar Optiks Crystalline Lenses x1 Eye Drops Pack x1 Mini Pub Vendor + Drinks Anti-Falling Upgrades Visitor Signalers

@AssGoblin 8 лет назад

+Markus B. That's awesome! Are those touch screens in front directly linked to the game? If so, how'd you pull that off? And do you think you'll ever move to a curved projection screen to get rid of those edges?

@deanrussell2224 3 года назад

Amazing..... especially the C64 docking music ..... that was my Elite right there - nice one - great set up - would be interesting to see the original on there too 👍

@Archonus 3 года назад

This video was inspiring. What an incredible set-up...

@Phenomz75 3 года назад

as a fellow German: Nvidia cards are capable of correcting the perspective of your side screens, this can be set up in the graphics card driver ... Viel Spass!

@udalix 3 года назад

And here I am just wearing a vr headset and having my body being placed inside the spaceship with the ability to naturally look around.

@What3v3a 3 года назад

I use a VR headset too, this setup has some very clear advantages though, having nothing on your head and an unlimited FOV for starters, and a huge interactable panel.

@re8355 3 года назад

Thanks for video, Great work. I have played ELITE in VR since 2015 . You did an amazing job, Awesome !

@labtechrob 8 лет назад

Fantastic build, thanks for sharing!

@checodogface 3 года назад

dont no why am here 6 years later but damn david you are a mad genius that is epic

@Cyba_IT 3 года назад

You know it's good tech when it's still impressing 6 years later. The only "upgrade" I can see if you built that today, aside from newer PC and projectors of course, would be to have a curved "screen" as GPU's have gotten much better at perspective correction. Very cool setup!

@checodogface 3 года назад

@@Cyba_IT am with you on that brother would be epic to see it upgraded i want rumble function on seat

@Cyba_IT 3 года назад

@@checodogface Yeah man, that'd be cool af

@elitespa 8 лет назад

Amazing work m8, respect, Im playing with my DK2 and H.O.T.A.S.

@AmDragonStar 7 лет назад

Love the set up dude! Its awesome. I looked at the setup for Star Citizen as well. Both are incredible! Keep up the good work buddy. :)

@SPERRFEUER84 7 лет назад

impressive how much effort was put into this. very cool!

@lazyarsekev 5 лет назад

you're living the dream my friend...

@wonderp3574 3 года назад

This looks incredible but at the same time i wouldn’t want to be *that* immersed simply because combat or tense situations would be TERRIFYING

@Scoobz187 3 года назад

Just speaking of my VR and SimPit experience in DCS (Digital Combat Simulator). I dont get pumped on adrenaline like in say a horror game like Alien Isolation. Its more like getting calmer as soon as combat starts. I´ve heard this from a lot of other Sim enthusiasts too, especially when you have some experience under your belt. Like in real life you focus on the task at hand, and with good immersion even more. :D

@BobBob-bv7nu 3 года назад

Twig boy

@Raztax 3 года назад

This blows me away, what a fantastic setup!

@MarkLewis... 3 года назад

Pretty freakin' awesome! Wish there was a warp scene and a battle scene, but this is so cool! I'm quite envious!

@eduardofreitas8336 7 лет назад

Can you do a video of you dogfighting with this? It is so awesome!!

@b4ds33d2 8 лет назад

This is the dopest thing I've seen on the Internet in a LOOOOOOOONG time. I want to do the same thing....but for Star Citizen.

@PantherU 4 года назад

Still waiting on Star Citizen? lol

@SummitSummit 4 года назад

@@PantherU Maybe it will be a game in another 4 years?

@LucasNoce 3 года назад

Hallo ! Your video got my attention till the end, I had a good laugh at the beginning and the end was mesmerizing ! Amazing how you can see and ( I can only guess here ) fell that ! Thanks and cheers from Argentina !

@HNCOCA 3 года назад

Thank-you for posting that original C64 docking tune!! Not heard that in years :))))))

@harvbegal6868 5 лет назад

I don't have a wife or girlfriend to keep me from buying all the stuff I am inspired to buy from watching this video.

@juliap.5375 3 года назад

Did you bought all this stuff? Or found wife which explained to you where is your place in house? ;D

@Sinn3246 3 года назад

Damn, why am I now being recommended this!

@musselflash2062 3 года назад

@Sinister Squirrel Because Elite Dangerous.

@Sinn3246 3 года назад

@@musselflash2062 lmfao

@Palendrome69 3 года назад

Glorious, i remember this as a child back in the 80s and yes i have this game, not the setup though, incredible

@Eichward_SKV 8 лет назад

Schön das ganze mal aus deiner Perspektive zu sehen :) Echt super was du dir da zusammen gebastelt hast. Und der Schluss des Videos: Episch :)

@tim_nj_devil176 3 года назад

One thing is missing though: a MP3 player to play STEPPENWOLF's "Magic Carpet Ride" during blastoff.

@onenessisthekeyJISL 3 года назад

now that is impressive. I will never leave the basement.

@hhuuuk 3 года назад

Basement gang

@reamoinmcdonachadh9519 3 года назад

Wunderbar!! Geogeous set up you built there.

@Reqs69 8 лет назад

Thx Mark. Amazing Hard & especialy Soul/Mind setup!

@MightyWolve 8 лет назад

How much did this all cost you? =) Just curious

@JBelcourt84 3 года назад

it cost one divorce.

@jasomkovac9115 3 года назад

Well that could actually be cheaper i the long run

@latvariansavage9134 3 года назад

@@jasomkovac9115 FACTS!

@Deleter0011 3 года назад

@@JBelcourt84 sometimes you have to make great decisions in your life to head forward! So i sold my family. now i have a room for every ship.

@JBelcourt84 3 года назад

@@Deleter0011 AHAHAHA, seriously though, those sim pits are pretty cool

@Didewro 5 лет назад

Come build one in my basement...i have the space.

@williamcarlson9638 3 года назад

Damn, impressive setup! Thanks for sharing!

@milleandnium 7 лет назад

Can't believe, that's new level man ! Awesome job !

@kubel83 3 года назад

If I had a setup like this then I would literally be "Living in the basement"😅

@kubel83 3 года назад

@Kori Sterling Geil 🤣👍

@nerdythirtysomething6812 7 лет назад

I probably wouldn't leave this seat tbh

@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 3 года назад

Theres a whole world out there? Why waste it in front of a silly game. No matter how good it is?

@gert2164 3 года назад

I want to have the time, money, and skills to build this. Beautiful, good job.

@mikegarner6719 3 года назад

ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!!!! So jealous of your set up

@dexterlacroy4132 3 года назад

The japanese are plotting to build a bigger gaming spaceship in an even larger basement as we speak 🚀💺

@Nozerone 3 года назад

And it's even deeper in the ground!

@Palexco 8 лет назад

How many bowls do you smoke before you take off. Id probably do at least 2 and then make a habit of doing 3 bowls.

@MarkusBoesen 8 лет назад

+Dogman No Drugs except my wife^^

@Palexco 8 лет назад

Markus B. lol

@doctorreno9439 6 лет назад

Americans!?! Who needs them.

@InjectorGadget 3 года назад

Wow, very nice, very impressive... Good job! I'm going to start working on something like this myself soon; I can't wait!

@shunulu123 8 лет назад

very good job commander, nice to see that kind of thing. Space sim is now really space sim. Congrats!

@sasham4073 3 года назад

this would have been so impressive had you not mentioned football

@isocrate27 3 года назад

Your wife is a lucky man.

@ph11p3540 8 лет назад

I so want to build something at least halfway to what you have for Star Citizen. I currently play Arena Commander on a trio of 24" BenQ monitors. In games like Elite Dangerous or Arena Commander bigger always means more immersion because your field of view is always filled with the game. This is what space and flight simulators are meant to be played. You dashboard is a work of art. I love Do It Yourself projects like this. Makes working with your hands worth something.

@MarkusBoesen 8 лет назад

+Phillip Mulligan Thank You! At the Roccat Power Grid site You can find some Grids for SC if You want to use additional tablets: www.roccat.org/en-US/Products/Gaming-Software/Power-Grid/Store/Grids/

@ph11p3540 8 лет назад

Markus B. Tablet's? You use tablets for those dashboard displays? Nice. Thanks for the help.

@Girlwatchingtheworld 8 лет назад

Dies ist erstaunlich, und brillant. Gut gemacht!

@johnbastion747 3 года назад

Now imagine a moving gamimg control seat similar to those for race car games, but designed for space ship games.

@Zogger568 8 лет назад

>wants to improve immersion >doesnt use an oculus rift bold move my friend

@SS1Gaming 8 лет назад

It's the best form of immersion. You just walk in and sit in a "spaceship" with no Oculus needed.

@SS1Gaming 8 лет назад

It's the best form of immersion. You just walk in and sit in a "spaceship" with no Oculus needed.

@SS1Gaming 8 лет назад

It's the best form of immersion. You just walk in and sit in a "spaceship" with no Oculus needed.

@Razmazyuka 7 лет назад

Oculus cheaper, and immersion with Oculus is better, especially with CV1.

@Arakox 7 лет назад

have fun trying to use a HOTAS with vr

@mechadragon931 8 лет назад

You have a awesome cockpit. I just want to help you perfect it. Controls look just sooo awesome!

@JeffCoronelND 8 лет назад

Well done ! Your setup is amazing!

@Curratum 8 лет назад

Someone has a lot of surplus income and a lot of free time!

@edstar83 8 лет назад

+Curratum Someone is jealous.

@Toarcade 8 лет назад

+edstar83 Who wouldn't be!

@ph11p3540 8 лет назад

+Curratum No. Not really. Some people put their money into model trains or RC planes. Still others book frequent vacations to the mountains. No. He just want to go on vacation into cyberspace.

@rrpostalagain 3 года назад

To be fair, it’s more time and effort and drive more than money. We all spend money on something. Think about what people sink into cars or a million other hobbies. I don’t think I’ve ever liked any game this much, but it makes me happy that people find anything that isn’t hurting others to be this gratifying. Well done.

@MrGilRoland 3 года назад

Plot twist: this is not a simulator.

@TrailDog 3 года назад

But a stimulator :D

@hunterwebb.9709 5 лет назад

love it with the lights off, should add some red lighting very dim though to illuminate a bit around the internal parts of said ship

@kalzaeth 3 года назад

elite dangerous on the Valve index is utterly unbelievably beautiful if you haven't tried it in actual VR OMG

@parrotshootist3004 3 года назад

Or, as fully immersed into reality experience, instead of entirely virtual. Like this guy.

@HenrikWigum 7 лет назад

Wait until he figures out he could've just bought an oculus

@TheMitchellbegeng 7 лет назад

Not on november 1st, 2015 he couldn't

@Razmazyuka 7 лет назад

This is what happens if you don't have patience... you spend a lot more money, and then run the game at 20fps.

@eduardofreitas8336 7 лет назад

Some things are cooler than on a oculus thogh. Those screens are soo awesome it really makes you feel you are PHYSICALLY on a cockpit =)

@MarkusBoesen 7 лет назад

At normal conditions my frame rate is excelent - above 90fps. But in the demo I run the trade computer extension overlay which kills my frame rate. :-(

@Derpaherpaderpify 7 лет назад

Yeah, tell that to my body. I can't use vr devices longer one or 2 hours before getting either a headache, nausea or sore eyes. I'd rather stick with such setup rather than use oculus, because it looks and feels way more immersive imo. Not like I'm gonna get/build one tho.