@@silowan197 I'm a loser for pointing out you can't learn a simple rule of the English language muhaha. Hopefully you got your own name right and made your mum and dad proud bwahaha.
Maybe he had been to that restaurant a whole bunch of times before and already knew he was going to have to salt the steak. And that the waiters are terrible... 😂
How would you differentiate between the two candidates. The owner chose the candidate on a set of non academic values he wants. Today it could be politeness to people below you, tomorrow it could be a person who like people feeding their egos. Ultimately, I am the boss, I choose the criteria in which who I am hiring.
Actually, it can be true. For example, in BIG4 companies there is a practice for Partners (CEO level) to have dinner with employees, including freshmans. However C-level usually don't take part in the hiring process of freshmans.
The unknown background to this story is that the young man who didn't get hired, Benjamin Carvhill, was from an extremely underprivileged background in contrast to his classmate, Arthur Mellon. Benjamin, in a second-hand suit, actually worked at the restaurant where the meeting took place to pay his way through school. He was well aware of the taste of the steak and he was expressly avoiding interacting with the staff in an attempt to avoid having his prospective employer, who by this time has shown himself to be moving in more rarefied social circles, from discovering his social standing. It's as important not to judge a story based on a single perspective as it is not to simply make shit up for your crap motivational self-help seminar.
Henry Ford also sued the U.S. government for bombing his engine factories in Germany during WWII. Those engines were used in German tanks. What a patriot.
I was at that dinner, and it was exactly how this guy described it. He must have been sitting at the table next to us and literally hung onto every word we spoke about
I'm glad no one will tell stories about me and never make quotes in a means in which it only helped others I guess . Shit it's great to be unsuccessful and who needs success in life. Thank you
@@shamuslamont100 : First of all, it was just a joke. Second, Ford may (or may not) be a humble guy, but he was a business man nevertheless. Having the NHTSA (which was not around during his lifetime) on his side would have helped his company tremendously. Many times in life, it is more about the 'who you know' and not 'what you know.'
@@steveanderson1058 Henry Ford admired Hitler and vice versa. He received the highest medal of honor from the Nazi-Government. In 1928 The NYT described him as "Mussolini of Highland Park"
That is likely the case with many with good morals, they watch how kindly you treat others and the way you go about life. Good will prevail in all things.
The way I heard the story 25 years ago was that when Henry Ford was considering doing business with someone he often had them for dinner at his house and would set them near the salt shaker and observe. And I haven't been to a business lunch or dinner without watching the salt and pepper shakers since.
People who treat people in service industry badly are the worst kind of people, don’t hire them , don’t date them and don’t befriend them. They are insecure and selfish and think of themselves as superior to other people. I have extensive experience with people like that after working for 7 years in service industry.
I read of the worst kind of A-Hole in a Fortune Magazine article. Two high powered executives we're at lunch. The A-Hole had his flunky with him as a buffer. The waiter talked to the flunky who talked to his boss who talked to the flunky who talked to the waiter. The A-Hole refused to interact with the waiter. Whatever the flunky was paid it wasn't nearly enough to put up with an SOB like that.
I have seen people who treat people in service industry very badly, but I never knew that not saying “thank you” is considered to be so rude that u would wrote a PhD about it
Yep it reminds me of my ex - she always positioned herself in restaurants like she was an object to admire and treated everyone with distain and disrespect. She was a total narcissist.
This can’t be true. Henry Ford was known for being a terrible human being. He used to humiliate his son as well as his employees. I watched a documentary that said he would spread the word in the office that someone was going to be fired the next day, and no one could speak about it. They would let the person leave that day, telling everyone goodbye, and then everyone had to clear out the persons office so that there was nothing in there. Then the next morning the person who was to be fired, would come into work, say hello like normal, walk into his office and it would be completely empty. No desk no nothing. And that’s how they knew they were fired, and they had to just walk out quietly. Even worse, he used to call his son an idiot. He allowed his son to make some decisions at corporate and the son decided to double the size of their corporate building. It was advertised and the son was so happy and talking to all the press, then, at the ceremony of the groundbreaking, his father, Mr. Ford, stepped up in front of everyone and said that there would be no new building. He embarrassed his son, but took joy in knowing that his son would come to work every day after that, and have to look out the window and see the deep hole that had been dug for the basement, to remind him how stupid he was. I’m pretty sure this was a PBS Ken Burns show that I watched.
Henry Ford was the father of the 40-hour/5-day work week and was one of the highest paying employers at that time so I'm not sure what that says for everyone else.
I was out to dinner with a friend. She noticed that i always said please and thank you every time the waiter came by. She said "you're really polite". I told her, "good manners are free".
There’s a thing called mutual respect. Wait staff, store clerks, and just general hospitality that are taught to be courteous. People on the street as well. Doing the same in return to them, to extent if you run into that one bad egg, just makes for a polite and friendly interaction. You just don’t want to mess with wait staff as the golden rule is “don’t F with the people who handle your food.”
I know it’s a story, and the “good” one is probably makes a better friend. But in reality they are both useful to hire. One tries before adding salt, meaning the steak needed salt. The other one had better intuition and added salt at the start. He got to the same better outcome quicker. Him not saying thank you doesn’t mean he is rude (unless he was actually rude). You could argue he was focused at the task at hand which was to engage with ford so he can get the job.
I've been through that, it's the take you to dinner but it's really a job interview. Both times I caught on to what was going on. But even if you catch you still don't know what behaviors they want to or don't want to see. Some fundamentals if out to dinner with a potential employer do not order a drink, they may let one drink slide ya order 2 you ain't getting hired. And it's very common for a potential employer to observe how you treat the help remember it doesn't cost you anything to be gracious and say Thank You to them. Stay engaged in the conversation even if it bored the hell out of you. I had these interviews before smart phones but was always a real good to turn your flip phone off. Staring at your smart phone at a dinner/job interview is probably gonna you're still unemployed when the dinner ends. I've been retired since 2017but in the 80's and 90's these dinner job interviews were very common. I don't know if they still are. If they still do these remember this not a social situation it's a job interview so be smart.
I was offered a job last year by an acquaintance, even though we had already spoken about me having changed my career path because I didn't really like office jobs, but I had mentioned the previous work I had done. Whilst having dinner together, he still went ahead and asked me the most obligatory question of every interviewer "where do you see yourself in five years? ". I answered "God, I hate that question and I'm so tired of it! Life is not a recipe, you can make plans but you have to be flexible, so I never think so far ahead." He still hired me. 🤷🏻♀️
@@bmsSumner I dated her for over a year and this is literally the number one reason I broke up with her. It just showed how she treated people in general I suppose. And this girl was a cashier at Walmart mind you LOL
The best way to interview someone is to get them to relax and have dinner. You can observe their behaviors and get a better idea of what makes them tick. An entire class does seem excessive.
Very true, but then why not use one of the millions of true stories, that inspire humans. Not just a story about a person in history that has already made his name and had his day.
I always make a point to say thank you and please and just to ask the person about their day how things are going. It's nice to hear every now and again to make you feel like a human. People just overlook the waiters and waitresses and people who are doing their jobs. As if they're nothing but there are somebody at the end of the day.
Later that week, Henry Ford woke up with a horse head in his bed having his mouth filled with salt shakers. 13 years later Mr. Ferrari leans over to Henry Ford at a restaurant and says, "I wonder if horses like salt, Henry?"
I took a beautiful woman out on a date and I asked her why she like me when she had so many options. She was a social worker and had to deal with terribly messed up children every day who came from dysfunctional families. She said that I was the first man the ever really listened to her and gave her empathy and sympathy. She also said I was kind and polite to everyone, including people that worked at restaurants. When I started out working I started as a dishwasher at a restaurant and I relate more to working people even though I became wealthy.
A good twist to your story is " the woman that was a social worker had seen many difficult children and cases and having seen you succed gave her hope on her own career!🤷🏽🤷🏽
“So, u want a guy that’s indecisive instead of someone that knows what he wants. “ “And u don’t want someone that treats a customer like they are the only person in the world that matters?”
My Dad told me this story, via Dale Carnegie. Which book his mentor required my father to read. I did eventually read Carnegie’s book at the age of thirty. Which, looking back, I really wish Dad required me to read at a much younger age
