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A STUART MODELS TRIPLE EXPANSION ENGINE - PART #3 

Keith Appleton
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A Stuart Models Triple Expansion Engine - Part #3 - Running the engine in the Workshop on the bench using Live Steam supplied by a Stuart 504 Boiler....................................................
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@johnnyholland8765
@johnnyholland8765 3 года назад
As an aerospace machinist of 30 years that is simply amazing...
@mattstevens4667
@mattstevens4667 4 года назад
I have just purchased a casting set for this model and got together all the materials.....expensive but very impressive engine also. I purchased it with money left to me in a will from a close family friend who passed away just over a year ago - hence once i get it complete, it will be called "Stan". Beautiful engine and the one shown is to a very high standard!
@fuzzcopter467
@fuzzcopter467 3 года назад
How’d it go?
@davescreations7793
@davescreations7793 4 года назад
Wow that engine could run a generator very nicely thanks for all your work and videos I do enjoy them a lot
@mikethestonemanbarber6917
@mikethestonemanbarber6917 4 года назад
I have rewatched all of your videos and you truly are gifted at ur hobby and I thank you 4 taken your time out of been a big musician and sharing your knowledge
@chriswilson2431
@chriswilson2431 4 года назад
Oh I love it. What a superb little engine indeed! You lucky lucky so and so!😉. Thanks for sharing. It’s really something special that is.
@cadser0engco
@cadser0engco 4 года назад
After a day in my workshop pulling my hair out. This is a great relief .
@JamesPetts
@JamesPetts 4 года назад
It is lovely to see this running on steam.
@johnfox4691
@johnfox4691 4 года назад
A beautiful piece of engineering.
@dancaptain2055
@dancaptain2055 9 месяцев назад
Very very cool. I too enjoyed the video very much. Thank you
@keithappleton
@keithappleton 9 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it {:-)))
@The7humpwump
@The7humpwump 4 года назад
No need for viagara after watching that. Amazing piece of craftsmanship
@MilanDupal
@MilanDupal 4 года назад
Great machine. Thanks for posting.
@jerryuhte1284
@jerryuhte1284 3 года назад
Keith , finally subscribed ! Been watching for a long time , really enjoy all the info and great videos ! Should have been a Machinist !
@azlandpilotcar4450
@azlandpilotcar4450 4 года назад
Wonderful engine.
@railbro4963
@railbro4963 4 года назад
Awesome video!
@Da5idc
@Da5idc 4 года назад
Love this engine 🙂 Is the valve chest for the intermediate pressure piston part of the high pressure piston casting? It looks quite crowded in that area
@keithappleton
@keithappleton 4 года назад
Yes, it is
@Da5idc
@Da5idc 4 года назад
@@keithappleton thanks for the info I'm holding thumbs that you get one to work on one day - I'd love to see the innards of one of them
@jeffanderson1653
@jeffanderson1653 4 года назад
This engine is fascinating. Thank you for sharing your good fortune. What is the value of a triple of this caliber? There must be over a thousand man hours in this build
@keithappleton
@keithappleton 4 года назад
Yes it is a lot of work to build one of these, as to the value . . . I will just say "reassuringly expensive" }:-)))
@kaibroeking9968
@kaibroeking9968 4 года назад
Thanks for showing a thing of beauty. We can all use a bit of distraction!
@guywren4801
@guywren4801 3 года назад
Such ingenuity and skill - thanks for showing. I notice that the flywheel needs a little turn to get it going - how is this managed with the full size?
@keithappleton
@keithappleton 3 года назад
The large full size engines often used a "Barring Engine" to turn the crankshaft into the correct position to start. Sometimes something called a "Simpling Valve" was used to admit steam to more than just the high pressure cylinder to start the engine.
@guywren4801
@guywren4801 3 года назад
@@keithappleton Thanks for the reply - very interesting.
@43manning
@43manning 4 года назад
A lovely thing ( from a Batley Lad). Ayup!
@johnutting9615
@johnutting9615 12 дней назад
Somewhat surprising that a 3 cylinder needed hand starting. Would have thought it would have been a self starter. Comment
@keithappleton
@keithappleton 12 дней назад
It is a 3 cylinder 120 degree crankshaft compound engine and would need a special "Simpling Valve" which allows steam into the other cylinders other than than just the first high pressure one, to allow self starting.
@johnutting9615
@johnutting9615 12 дней назад
@@keithappleton got it,I'm used to 90 deg crankshafts on twins. Thanks
@nitro105
@nitro105 4 года назад
Great little engine keith, I noticed that you had to turn it off dead center to start it, would a full size engine have a starting valve that let high pressure into the low and intermediate steam chests for starting? something like an intercepting valve?
@keithappleton
@keithappleton 4 года назад
they used a "Simpling Valve"
@TimsBitsnPieces
@TimsBitsnPieces 3 года назад
Keith, what are the 2 pumps on the side of then engine for? This is a magnificent machine, it looks and sounds fantastic.
@keithappleton
@keithappleton 3 года назад
One is the boiler water feed pump and the other larger one is the condenser vacuum pump.
@paulrayner4514
@paulrayner4514 4 года назад
just out of curiosity should this engine be self starting? or is it because its still a bit tight? I would imagine on the full size one's they will be, or do they have to stop them in a certain position like they do with beam engines. It's a beautiful engine and nice to see it running rather than stuck behind a glass case.
@keithappleton
@keithappleton 4 года назад
Compound steam engines generally do not self start unless they have a "Simpling Valve"
@paulrayner4514
@paulrayner4514 4 года назад
@@keithappleton ok. I didn't know that, I will google Simpling Valve now. thank you. regards
@jxgreer
@jxgreer 3 года назад
If you were to go though a selection Stuart Engines from difficult to hard, which ones would you pick and in what order?
@keithappleton
@keithappleton 3 года назад
Sorry, I only give free advice to my Patreon Supporters www.patreon.com/keithappleton
@chrisyu98
@chrisyu98 2 года назад
have you ever measured the HP output of your engines?
@keithappleton
@keithappleton 2 года назад
No .....
@JamesPetts
@JamesPetts 4 года назад
Incidentally, given that there is a displacement lubricator, what is the purpose of the cylinder oiler?
@keithappleton
@keithappleton 4 года назад
What cylinder oiler, I see a water pump and a condenser vacuum pump built onto the engine but no mechanical lubricator . . . hence the Displacement type.
@railwayreviews763
@railwayreviews763 4 года назад
the next you are going to work on are you going to make it public on youtube?
@keithappleton
@keithappleton 4 года назад
In a couple of Months time maybe . . . . www.patreon.com/keithappleton - why not have a look }:-)))
@harrisonlong644
@harrisonlong644 3 года назад
would this actually work to power a boat?
@keithappleton
@keithappleton 3 года назад
Yes a large model boat.
@harrisonlong644
@harrisonlong644 3 года назад
@@keithappleton Do you know of any brands that could power a small 1 person watercraft? Thanks.
@keithappleton
@keithappleton 3 года назад
A Stuart number 4 would just about do it I think - with a suitable boiler.
@harrisonlong644
@harrisonlong644 3 года назад
@@keithappleton Thankyou very much. I'm a fan of all the videos you produce. I can't own all the models I want, this channel is the next best thing!
@franknapolitano9144
@franknapolitano9144 3 года назад
Whatis the Stuart Model Number # for this Engine ?
@keithappleton
@keithappleton 3 года назад
Stuart Triple Expansion Engine
@franknapolitano9144
@franknapolitano9144 3 года назад
@@keithappleton They should also offer a Machined Kit Version !
@enedenedubedene4811
@enedenedubedene4811 Год назад
Wieso ist diese Maschine nicht selbstanlaufend?🙄🙄🙄🙄 Viele Grüsse aus Germany
@keithappleton
@keithappleton Год назад
Triple Expansion Engines will only self start if fitted with a "Simpling Valve" to admit high pressure steam into more than one cylinder.
@Blue_4-2
@Blue_4-2 4 года назад
🔧😊👍
@jdmccorful
@jdmccorful 4 года назад
WD-40 has many uses! Beautiful combination of machinery. BTW, you consistently use adjustable wrench the wrong way according to the Engineer that mentor my training early on. Called them "knuckle busters".
@elburropeligroso4689
@elburropeligroso4689 4 года назад
When the video is slowed down, the sound is reminiscent of the giant triple expansion engine at Kempton Park that I've seen in videos.
@camillosteuss
@camillosteuss Год назад
Love how she sounds like an idling diesel at 5.45... Has that same industrial rumble of harmony that a good 4 tact diesel has, especially the larger diesels, like large truck engines...
@Herby-1620
@Herby-1620 4 года назад
I find these very interesting. The big question I have is how much power can/do they produce. Can you hook up a dynamometer or some such that might indicate what such an engine would do under "load". I understand these little engines can be quite powerful for their size. Great video and video series.
@douglasmcdermott2830
@douglasmcdermott2830 4 года назад
Herby1620 The Stuart triple from memory isn’t terribly powerful, but the Stuart 5a produces 1 1/4 horsepower at either 300 or 3000 rpm, I can’t recall which. They also make a very large compound launch engine which has been known to generate 2 1/2 hp.
@DAKOTA56777
@DAKOTA56777 4 года назад
@@douglasmcdermott2830 The Stuart 5a is 1.5hp with 100psi at 800rpm, listed on Stuart's site. 3,000rpm is... quite high, for a steam engine.
@douglasmcdermott2830
@douglasmcdermott2830 4 года назад
DAKOTA56777 yes I realized that after I typed it but didn’t bother to edit
@aflatminor
@aflatminor 2 года назад
This reminds me of the large 3 cylinder engine that was at our works until 1978, I started work at British Steel, River Don the following year so never saw it, Had to pack in last year due to the after effects of the virus! 🙁 It's at Kelham island industrial heritage centre now and is (Or was before covid!) Steamed up every so oft, I'll have to get there and watch it sometime! Love your vids by the way 👍🙏
@royseifert3078
@royseifert3078 4 года назад
Keith, when you changed from forward to reverse, then from reverse back to forward you had to start the engine by hand, why is that? Another great video and fun to watch, thanks.
@keithappleton
@keithappleton 4 года назад
Compounds are generally not self starting unless the cranks end up in the right position . . .
@johnutting9615
@johnutting9615 4 года назад
Can be considered to be a single cylinder enngine
@Genius_at_Work
@Genius_at_Work 2 года назад
@@keithappleton That's why real Compound Engines have a Bypass Valve to pass Steam around the High Pressure Cylinder directly to the Medium/Low Pressure Cylinders, incase the High Pressure Cylinder came to stop in TDC/BDC. At least Marine Engines have that, as they must be started many Times when Manouvering. Stationary Engines like Generator or Pumping Engines may have to be slow turned to Starting Position instead, as they aren't started very often.
@garyruxton5226
@garyruxton5226 3 года назад
Oh what a beautiful sound. Glad you ran it for a while so we could hear it. Sounds almost like a full size launch.
@johndii2194
@johndii2194 4 года назад
7:30 I hear its heart beating.
@jamesbrock1883
@jamesbrock1883 4 года назад
4:25 Cyborg Keith
@The123pcr
@The123pcr Год назад
the prefential running direction (quitest performens) fits to the pitch of prop (ahead)... perfect :-)
@dampfronny2734
@dampfronny2734 3 года назад
Sehr gute Maschine und ein sehr guter Film.Ist für mich hilfreich,ich habe eine Zeichnung der Tpiple erworben und werde die Maschine ohne Materialsatz bauen.
@krzysztofjaxaswist1434
@krzysztofjaxaswist1434 3 года назад
I know that this may be a little crazy idea.... But do You think that a small engine like that with some reduction in revs, would be able to power a 2 person lightweight "car" like wehicle build of bicycle parts? I mean ...human power on bike isnt very much and it runs... now taking the torque of steam ... Could you comment on that idea?
@keithappleton
@keithappleton 3 года назад
Not powerful enough and it would prematurely wear out. It is after all just a working model Steam Engine.
@krzysztofjaxaswist1434
@krzysztofjaxaswist1434 3 года назад
That's what i thought... But hopes were high 😁 A nice triple expansion steam engine on my imaginary car looks just perfect. Single cylinder launch boat engine just doesnt give that wow effect. I don't want to take too much of your time on my idea, but what would you recommend? Building it from scratch or is there somebody that makes bigger steam engines than that beauty you showed here. Btw. Im learning plenty from your videos and hope youre not going to stop anytime soon 😊
@keithappleton
@keithappleton 3 года назад
There is a commercially manufactured steam car available, and they are not too expensive to buy. It is called a "Likamobile". maybe by Googling the word you may be able to find more details about them. I found a picture of one here: www.stationroadsteam.com/likamobile-steam-car-stock-code-3767/
@dampfronny2734
@dampfronny2734 3 года назад
Wonderful engine.
@TheSacqueboute
@TheSacqueboute 4 года назад
Needs a very tiny donkey engine for maximum modeliness. :)
@jaxonevax6135
@jaxonevax6135 3 года назад
That is just too cool
@trichter7233
@trichter7233 4 года назад
I build a Stuart D10 with Reverse. It runs very fine. Nothing is knocking. Should i try a Stuart Triple? Is it hard to build this engine compared to a D10 with reverse?
@keithappleton
@keithappleton 4 года назад
If you can build a D10 with reverse that works, then maybe you should try a Triple }:-)))
@michaelvitetta7231
@michaelvitetta7231 4 года назад
I have a question, after running on steam what do you do to the engine? That is before you put it away what do you do to clear out the water and do you relube the engine? How do you clean it? Just wipe it down, spray anything?
@keithappleton
@keithappleton 4 года назад
Why not watch the video to the end?
@jacobditmars8414
@jacobditmars8414 4 года назад
Very nice engine, but I have a question. I also know that the propeller is for show, but if used in a marine application, why would you want a non-self starting engine?
@keithappleton
@keithappleton 4 года назад
It's really not for a model boat ......
@jacobditmars8414
@jacobditmars8414 4 года назад
Ok, thank you for the answer then.
@ilfarmboy
@ilfarmboy 4 года назад
wonder if it could power a small boat(1 man)
@keithappleton
@keithappleton 4 года назад
not really - after all it is a model engine.
@philhealey449
@philhealey449 4 года назад
Why would you not initially run it with the cylinder cocks open to avoid risk of hydraulic lock, or was it already hot from previous running ?
@keithappleton
@keithappleton 4 года назад
it was already hot and drain cocks like these always make a mess . . .
@philhealey449
@philhealey449 4 года назад
@@keithappleton All good, I was just surprised. Shockingly 35 years since I built my Stuart Number One taking 4 years commencing when I was 18 and pleasingly it's much better than many of your patients. Maybe time I exhumed my round bed Drummond lathe , seeing your videos with loads of tips thank you!
@LTD347
@LTD347 4 года назад
The comments are showing as posted 1 and 2 months ago, but the video was uploaded 20 minutes ago. How strange
@keithappleton
@keithappleton 4 года назад
Not strange at all - I make these videos for my Patreon supporters, and not all of them become public anyway. Patreon is currently 2 Months ahead. (over 60 videos in front of the free view RU-vid stuff) www.patreon.com/keithappleton
@LTD347
@LTD347 4 года назад
Keith Appleton ahh that does make sense. Thanks for the explanation. I thought RU-vid was having a blonde moment 🤣
@Jack-hg1hq
@Jack-hg1hq 4 года назад
people often ask me why don't you put the condensed water back into the boiler feed tank, 5:04 thats why.
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