A typical 4.5-year-old on Piagetian conservation tasks: number, length, liquid, mass, and area. (Captioning provided by the IT Department at Inver Hills Community College, Inver Grove Heights, MN.)
Yeah but if she explains why the kid isn’t right he might get discouraged and not cooperate as well. If she did explain he most likely wouldn’t understand anyways
@@maksimkirandziski9660 i agree with that but i also don’t think since the kid can’t grasp the concepts there, her affirming him when he is wrong won’t harm him when the time comes that he can actually understand
@@maksimkirandziski9660 That's interesting. I see now how saying "right" could reinforce the wrong idea in the kid's head throughout the test. For that one I was like "Come on, explain the kid what's going on!! Haha"
I love how he just spells out his logical mistakes but doesn’t reflect on it. ”That stick is longer” why? ”Because you moved it” so now it’s longer? ”Yeah”
I think the problem here is just that he hasn't been taught to associate the word 'more' with the quantity of things in a set, but rather the quality of being larger sized in general. Hence why some kids would say "This is 'more' bigger". They associate it wrong due to them not understanding the full functions of the word. Also longer to the kid could mean which sticks out further. It's what the words mean to him based off his amount of context, he gets it fully, just not the word.
@@animationspace8550 that’s what I kept thinking too. I wondered how his answers might change if the word “more” was explained in each scenario (like as quantity, in the coin example). I feel like it could be a misunderstanding in language.
When I was a kid in daycare at the YMCA, I held a dollar up to one of the teens who watched the kids and said, “I have a dollar!” She took it out of my hands, tore it in two, and handed it back to me, and said, “Now you have two dollars.” I walked off feeling so pleased.
You’re No the lady is conducting the experiment to see what the baby says obviously she’s not dumb. It’s called an experiment in the title are you the same age as that kid or something? Can’t believe the educational system in the Congo has failed so bad
It's amazing to think that your level of mental development can influence your perceptions so much. I will forevermore be much more patient with others after watching this... after all, they may just have the awareness of a 4 year old.
I did same test and at age 5 and I was annoyed, thought I was being made fun of. What’s scary is a swear many kids don’t learn this until like 10 years old. What’s extremely interesting is a struggle with something entirely different, follow step by step tasks. It’s basic but sometimes it extremely hard to stick to same order. It’s fascinating how different minds work.
Having 7 kids of my own and listening to this kid's reasoning, I don't think it's an issue of understanding conservation so much as misunderstanding the meaning of the words he's using.
@@ReverseGuywhat makes you think the child is disabled? There are normal adults who would get a few of these tests wrong. You also don't know anything about the kid
but in fact matter is created and destroyed... i think thats something we have wrong..it most certainly can be created and destroyed maybe we arent there intellectually tho.
kinda like when u draw a circle around an ant...they wont go over it cuz they think they are boxed in but from our view we know better...same thing with your phrase.
I mean, moving them closer would have been so significantly more reliable. Not to mention our hands aren't completely flat and can easily tilt to produce unreliable results. Nothing against the kid, I just don't see why people find this so impressive when we're meant to be the adults 😅
I am more impressed that this kid didn't just get annoyed and walked off, or asked for a vape / phone / tablet or what ever kids thous days get from there so called perfect mother.
All children do this. This isnt a result of the child's intelligence. Piaget referenced in the title is a psychologist who wrote about the stages of development in kids.
This feels more like a language thing than a conceptual one He interprets more as covers a larger area or is taller but approximately understands they are still the same in volume
The kid just said what he thought she wanted to hear. You can tell he's not sure if his answers are correct but feels encouraged by the lack of corrections. It's still an interesting experiment.
Not very good comparison as even without all content that came later Battlefront II 2017 is "more" than Battlefront II 2005 from the fact (edit: alone) how complex and diverse animation, models. Like in old Battlefrint all force users had same handle for lightsaber.
@@FirstnameLastname-my7bz Doesn't apply in the first place since there's no dlc or non cosmetics locked behind a pay wall. But games are moving away from dlc anyway. I just said EA because they're awful
My mom says when I was still in a high chair, I would ask for more food when I still had some on my plate. So she would cut it into smaller pieces, and I would nod approvingly.
@@ohreally331 I believe that both parties are out for their own interests and the individual must be able to switch to any party whenever they want. I sometimes vote Democrat and sometimes Republican. You just need to be smart on what policies are being introduced.
Not a joke: Can someone who is knowledgeable about this, explain to me exactly how this is helping the kid? I mean they don't even say when they're wrong and explain why.
Yeah I'm pretty sure he knew they were the same amount but due to the woman having more authority and her changing it right in front of him I think he answered what she wanted him to answer just like at the end he changed his answer of it being fair when she asked again thinking he didn't answer as she wanted
I believe the kid hasn't any issue identifying the two rows as having the same number of coins. I believe the issue is his comprehension of the concept of "more". I don't really know much about kids cognition but he must be at an age when you are appropriating some concepts that are very well assimilated by adults, and so he bases his understanding of these concepts on the reaction of adults towards them, and especially since kids are used to be in an educative context these days. So the kid must be like "if she does that and asks me that, thus she means to point out this".
Technically the kid is right about the playdough. When she smushes the ball some of it stuck to her hand. The kid is not dumb. He is just to smart for us to comprehend
@@pablosrf3881 it's just because everyone's being raised wrong. And then some idiot made adhd a diagnosis and so now everyone thinks it's just something wrong with them medically and that they can't get over it. When if fact they can. It just takes effort, something none of them were raised to put forth. Literally everyone would have adhd if they wanted to. It's stupid.
i used to babysit a disadvantaged child and i remember doing the water test with her and teaching her about why they’re still the same. she always got so excited because it was fun to play with the water (and she was learning at the same time). imagine if schools actually made learning FUN, the amount of things people could learn
@@Neon-ws8er barely. most of my primary school experience is being forced to study unnecessary shit and hand in tonnes of homework. plus learning should still be fun past the level of being a child, like high school and university could do so much better.
Watching your child hit milestones is like witnessing tiny miracles. Stay engaged, celebrate progress, and nurture their journey. Here's a thought: How can you turn a daily activity into a chance for them to learn and grow? 🙂
@JayLeeBeanz Right, because at age 4.5 years, some of these concepts are not taught to children the same because most children at 4.5 years do not use deductive reasoning or do not recognise that when objects have been manipulated or superficially changed (the beaker experiment) the child at age 4.5 would not know that nothing has become bigger, or longer until age 7 or 8.
I think the kid is smart enough to understand most of these but when the woman changed one of the properties of the items he assumes he should answer the question differently now since something has changed. Woman changed something = different answer.
@JayLeeBeanz No. When he counts the coins he understands they have the same ammount. He knows what he is asked. He just uses faulty heuristics to get the answer.
Lays™: is this bag bigger or is this bag bigger? Consumers: they're the same size Lays™: *adds 20% air to bag* okay, now which one is bigger? Consumers: this one's bigger!!!
They are right then. Ur just talking about the size. So even when its only + 20% air. Its still bigger. Then the normal size. Even when they didnt drop extra chips in them
It works on some kids that are even older. I was baby sitting 2 kids because my sister couldn't do it one time so I had to fill in (don't usually babysit). One of the kids spilled their jello and I had to throw it out . He was so upset and crying that I had to take the other one's and take a bit out and chop it up so they looked even and they were both happy.
And this ladies and gents is how the Democratic party works. Republican and Democrat politicians are both filthy rich but the Democrats claim only the Republicans have more.
@@tonypop1007 he was measuring the height not the volume. So he was thinking the height is what is the same then when she changed it he thinks ok the height is more now. I think he is only understanding her questions from one perspective.
@TXC Rag3 yes he could, he even measured with his hand the comparable height of the liquid in the container. Then again when it gets taller in comparison in the larger cup.
@@apppertplus68 The test is conducted without leading questions specifically to avoid a faulty outcome. Before you reach conclussions on acknowledged child cognitive development how about you don't conclude based on a three minute video? I study this field and though I had my skeptisism with a lot of theories, when you dive into the theories and what they're based on, other than numerous tests conducted by individuals that tries to break the theory, it yields the same result.
I am so amazed by his nonreaction on realizing he was wrong, or does he even realize it? Whats happens in his mind? Im really curious xD Doublereading it made me realize I may sound like some dr frankenstein psychopath xD pls dont take it that way. Im just curious and high
I was first totally baffled by the kid’s way of thinking, till I learned that he doesn’t have a concept of conservation of mass. If something is stretched than mass magically appears, if it’s mushed it magically decreases. But it’s interesting that he doesn’t reflect on his way of thinking after counting the coins.
Phase two of testing: every time he’s wrong, yell “wrong” while slamming your fists onto the table. Then proceed to the next question without explanation while maintaining firm emotionless eye contact. We shall call this test the negative reaction test. Our goal is to see if stress can sharpen a child’s mental capabilities, or completely diminish them.
Kids tend to be pretty well behaved when mom and dad aren't around. They know exactly how far they can push parents so they tend to be a bit more conservative with others. Also, it looked like he having fun. Or at least enjoying the attention.
He isn't particularly well-behaved, he is well-engaged. An engaged child will show better "preferrable" behavior vs a bored child. That's why screen-time is so damaging to kids. Bad attention spans = easier boredom.
