@@BryanKeithPhoto It's not overrated when a card gets corrupted and you lose your entire wedding. I've had a CF Express Type B card fail before. Luckily it was for photo only so I had the SD card as a backup.
I shoot with a Zf, and the Z6iii seems like a pretty on-par/above-par companion camera to go with it. I do think the habit of making the dual slots different formats is very weird (the Zf records SD and microSD). I've never had LUTs in-camera, so I'm fairly used to going without, but it would be a really nice addition! All I need from Nikon now is to give the Zf a firmware update for half-press to zoom out :'D
The internet is packed with videographers asking about how to recover images and video from their SD card (especially from Sony cameras), but, so it appears, very few from Nikon users. That might be due to the fact that the Z-series from the beginning could only take the larger, and much more reliable, XQD and later on, CFexpress B, cards. From my experience with Nikon Z-cameras, I don't need a second card slot.
This camera is basically perfect for my needs, but the no dual recording video is a deal breaker. As a solo shooter, I can't take a chance on shooting to only one card, when countless other brands offer the option for dual video recording. It's literally the only thing holding me back from going all in on Nikon. Awesome camera though!
I'd love to hear how you shot weddings with non dual slotted cameras for years. Did you back up to a laptop or just use large cards and checked them constantly prior to the wedding shoot?
No camera under 3k USD has dual recording, not even Eos R5 so whether it can dual record or not it doesn't matter coz the competition also doesn't, just check the 6k raw and other most important things you need, hope this helps 🎉
Not yet. This was deep in R&D when the deal went through. The first “RED” Nikon camera may be the Z5 II, Z50 II, and any other bodies after we see a Z7 III, if we see one.
I've used the Sony A1 and A74 at 4k 60 and they overheat. A1 overheart after 10 minutes or so. A74 overheat while I'm shooting 1080p. Give me the Nikon please
@@francis2339 Watch Nikon z9 lab test review on Cine5d. Look particularly at the lattitude test vs every other Sony prior to the Burano. Nikon z9, solid 8 stops that can go to 9. All other Sony sensor based cameras between 7 and eight. Nikon has a problem from their very contrasty Nikon Nlog.
I own an A7iv and it has only overheated one single time in 3 years, and it was shooting xavcs-i 4k for over an hour, handheld in the summer on a hot day… also out of all the test videos on yt showing that the a1 doesn’t overheat… I’m gonna believe them over you lol.. You dont have to use or even like Sony, but at at least be honest about the fact that they are extremely capable, well-made cameras.
@@RustyShackleford9000 I largely agree, but I genuinely believe that Sony has a problem with software or quality control. I owned an A7IV and was incredibly disappointed by its thermal performance too (even with the thermal limit set to high). I had it in a large church with decent air circulation on a tripod during a summer day recording a ceremony at 4k 24p, and it overheated approximately an hour in. Mine wasn’t so bad that it overheated doing 1080p, but it definitely made the camera unusable for long-form content. I’m happy that you got lucky with your A7IV, but after wielding two A6300s, an A7SIII, and the A7IV over the years, it seems like getting a camera with solid thermal performance is a genuine gamble with Sony. The only one that didn’t have problems was the A7SIII (thank God, that thing is the messiah of video cameras).
Competitors do not allow dual recording. Guys, think for a second here. Look at the codecs, containers and frame rate of the camera. Why on earth, would it dual record to a type b and then an SD card? Help that make sense. Buy a Cine camera if that’s important to you. Canon R5 doesn’t even dual record. Stop it man, it’s not an issue, it’s just a common sense thing. Be happy they at least gave you all those goodies in the camera, which let’s admit, none of you won’t end up using the features anyway, it’s just to geek out over specs.
Quite the opposite. All other competitors allow dual recording because they have efficient log profiles to have manageable file sizes to be recorded to both cards, which is expected in this price class by its target audience.
@@kashifswaynerobinson saying simultaneous dual-card recording isn’t important and to buy a “Cine” camera if you need that is not common or sensible lol. Most pro photographers worth their salt run dual cards even if they’re only shooting stills… this is not just a “cine” thing lol
2 hours and 5 minutes record time? Remember until recently you had a 30 minute limit. 2 hr 5 minutes is way long enough for anything I’ve ever recorded. I’ve been a photographer since 1981. Of course I’ve been a digital shooter since the early 2000’s. I shoot a ton every week. I’ve never had a card go bad. If that’s the major reason for not going with a camera that only shoots video to a single camera, so be it. I’m very comfortable shooting to a single card or SSD. There are plenty of things that can go wrong when shooting video. Mine has never been a memory card.
I think it's important to consider that the different levels of warnings MAY do different levels of damage to the camera in the long run. Think dried heat sink paste etc. So while these figures ARE excellent, one wouldn't want to drive the camera into the red on a regular basis. Also choosing the memory card with the lowest heat generation (Delkin Black for example), will be beneficial for long term reliability.
18:17 to me that’s the most exciting part is the kind of cameras are gonna be able to produce in the future - just imagine a RED camera with Nikon auto focus. Wow. The insane picture quality of Nikon. The future is bright.
lol avoiding to compare it to S5iix which has unlimited recording when you were talking about overheating is AMAZING! just shows where the agenda is coming from. S9 is not this in camera territory S5iix is and it's almost 50% cheaper with the deals
Hi, great review. However, recording in 6K RAW or 4K RAW ProRes is limited by the card's capacity. In fact, even when using a real 2TB card, you can only record about 35 minutes, either continuously or in fragments. I have had this issue since purchasing, both with 2TB Sandisk CF cards and ProGrade cards. According to Nikon's official support, there are only four certified brands for RAW, and only one, Nextorage, exceeds 660GB, reaching 1.3TB. When manually partitioning my ProGrade CFexpress card to 660GB using a PC, the camera works perfectly. However, if I leave it standard, the recording stops after reaching 660GB, even though there are still 40 minutes available. If I continue, it stops again every 20, 30, or 15 seconds. Only by inserting a new CF card or reformatting it do I get the full 40 minutes available again. I apologize for my English. Best regards from italy
Camera looks really good! Thank you for this great video. I can't be the only one that thinks this IBIS is somehow a step backward... ? I've shot lots on Z6ii and Z9 and esp. for the latter... idk. It just seems a little jankier.
I heard lot of people talking and showing a bad performance in low lights. like strange flickering and artifacts....do you noticed something like that?
Quick Q: Was the file recorded after the cam switched off being too hot? I did several Z8 tests and it kept shutting off quickly and the files were not even recorded. Sent it back and was aiming at the Z9 since. Until.... [Great review - tnx]
Very nice review! I really feel that in 2024, we shouldn't be paying $2500 for a camera that cannot record video or photos to dual cards, specially if you are buying for professional work that cannot be re-shoot, like a wedding for example. This is one of the main reason why I am selling my Pocket6k Pro, and I will probably not pull the trigger on this camera unless they unlock the dual recording feature like Canon eventually did with the R5.
sony will probably answer to this.... and then canon maybe and then panasonic ...i mean this never ends ....imo sony is the one that leads atm ... but when nikon does this they have to make something equal or better
@@sardanapalos sony already knew about this so im sure they are preparing. Sony literally makes sensors for Nikon (alongside Fuji and Lumix) so they pretty much know what they will be facing against
@@sardanapalos I think A7S is gonna be canceled, literally pointless now that sony is focusing on the FX line plus the ZV line. Highly doubt they are going to keep specialising in 3 different lines of cameras that are the same thing. U gotta admit Z6iii has some crazy video specs for 2500$, great allaround package.
@@danielvilliers612 that's true but that's adding ~$600 to your total but at that point you're getting closer to the Z8 price and could get more bang for your buck there.
The problem with relying on 32-bit float is that you can end up either under driving or over driving the mic capsule which leaves you with a pristine recording of a mic working outside its sweet spot for sound pressure. Plus for a lot of commercial work you still have to deliver in 24-bit. So learning how to gain stage properly on set (or at a wedding) is still an essential skill.
No optical flow or post stabilization to any footage in the review. :)
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No entiendo todas las quejas, ni en esta cámara ni en la s9… creo que estas cámaras son increíbles 😅 solo que ahora solo nos concentramos en tener algo que criticar, lo que sea😅
No dual recording is a dealbreaker. I'm in my third year in my photo/video journey, and I already had a card failure. Unrecoverable photos and videoclips on it. Glad I bought dual card slot cameras that actually can save to both cards. It can be the best camera ever if it doesn't have this feature it's basically a single card slot camera therefor not a professional tool. Or at least not for the kind of work that you cannot repeat.
@@danielvilliers612 4k 60 without a crop, no over heating, 4k oversampled from 6k, etc are nice but not enough to sell all my sony and reinvest in another eco system. Even if I would buy I would wait for people who do longer term reviews, these are just a preview of every think that's good without real world usage. One clear trade off it doesn't have good enough internal stab like Panasonic to use without a gimbal. Also the 1 card recording. It's ok not a deal breaker.
The lack of dual recording should be a deal breaker for a wedding videographer today. Totally unacceptable. Your reputation is so valuable, and losing your footage will kill it. Nikon must address this ASAP.
@@peterra2532 It's not just about redundancy, the benefits also include 1) having a card in the camera at all times, 2) have overflow capacity when one is filled up, and 3) backup flexibility.
You want to record on two Memory Cards yet you use the Cheap Belkin Memory Card??? Most Mfrs will be using cheap cards too, both are going to fail even if it had the ability!!
Per Nikon, this camera DOES automatically record proxy files to the SD card when recording high quality video files to the CF Express drive. Also, Davinci Resolve already supports ProRes RAW. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Rr7-tyt8aWg.html
Is it me or does Nikon video quality looks too clinical? The image is nice and clean but not much character. Does this have to do with the lens or is that how Nikon processes it's image?
8:30 +1 Makes no sense as a Z8 owner. Why - just why. Hopefully the can remove this feature or at least let us hack it Also when/if we will get red code raw on Z8/9/6iii
not a word about how large are Prores or RAW videos ... much more than h264/265, you won’t use it at a wedding. 6k without opengate, Ibis mehh. Strange camera for weddings
@@whoismatt not so cheap, considering that you need to backup the flash drive and then also ssd /hdd . If one wedding takes up 500+ GB, this is a problem . Let's not remember those heroes who used 1DX's )
I shoot entire wedding in 8k raw with z8, at the end of the day I use around 800gb (but at the end of the day I shoot h265). I use 1tb that cost me 300$ canadian dollars, and 2x 12tb hard drive that cost me 400$ canadian dollar… I think that 6k raw will take less storage… It’s not so expensive… When I finish to edit a wedding, I transform all footage to h265, for backup and save it for 2 years… When I shot first in nraw I never shot h265 anymore as raw is so good
Hey Matt, I found a manufacturing error Nikon refused to acknowledge in my z9, z8, and og z6 regarding audio - there is bleed between left and right through the 3.5mm jack, meaning it is effectively useless with jam sync timecode like tentacle sync mkii because the timecode bleeds into the scratch track. It means if there's drift you have no fallback. Did you experience this with the z6iii?
we tested timecode with the Z6iii and it worked fine using the tentacle to jam sync the audio. Synced up fine in post. Could one of your units just be faulty? I havent tried it on the Z8 though.
Far from an expert but I thought that the volume needs to be reduced so it doesn't bleed. The other way to get around audio bleed is only jam sync at the start and then disconnect it. As long as you aren't filming lots of small clips. Also believe timecode doesn't prevent drift, you need a camera with genlock which none of these type of cameras have.
@@petercofrancesco9812 we had the tentacle connected to the camera the entire time. You never really notice drift unless you are filming longer than 24 hours without refreshing the sync from my experience.
This flip out screen is an atrocity. I was thinking of exchanging my Zf for a Z6iii before, now I think I’ll have to look to another brand. Nikon used to put photography first. I’m sad to see that “me, myself and I, look at me on social media” videographer types are more important !!! Sad day as far as I’m concerned.
I shoot Nikon and it’s the #1 thing that pisses me off about their latest releases. They have the tech, but just refuse to push a firmware update that provides dual slot recording.
Lost me on not being able to dual record. As a wedding filmmaker, having the peace of mind that comes with a backup in case one card fails is especially important.
As a long time Nikon user, I’m “meh” about this new articulating screen. As soon as you insert a USB-C cable or HDMI cable, there goes the ability to have it swivel up or down when in the out position.
@@Whiteinrevery Well said, the amount of complain people have reached is unbelievable. Man you get 6k raw video in the palm of your hand for 2.5k USd, and you keep complaining. Go buy a video camera for factor for 2.3.10x more if you don't want this.
to late now, had to jump to sony years ago because of my Z6 many short-comings- 25 years w Nikon but couldn't shoot video like a sony & new lens tech took forever !!!
dont be overwelmed ...sony will probably answer to this.... and then canon maybe and then panasonic ...i mean this never ends .... some brand is far way ahead, others catch up ...imo sony is the one that leads atm ... but when nikon does this they have to make somethng equal or better
@@harryvuemedia5106 first of all better ergonomics including weather sealing. Then the af is also on par, general Settings are easier, switching from video to photo is done instantly with the settings being diffrent from photo/Video. And the xqd cards are a lot faster and safer. Loading your pictures/Videos on your Computer is so much faster. Also better image stabilization. So basicly using the two cameras in the real world makes s huge diffrence. The one is a toy, the otherone a tool to work with
@@harryvuemedia5106 sorry I thought I replied. But basicly the ergonomics is just a lot better on the Nikon including weather sealing. After the Firmware 3, the af is on par with the Sony. Altough its sometimes a bit off in very dark Situations like a club. The xqd cards are safer than sd and just in general a lot quicker. This also benefits you, when you need to Transfer files in a hurry. If you are a Hybrid shooter, its a lot faster and to change between Photo and Video with the settings staying diffrent for photo/Video. The one is a tool made for working, the otherone feels like a toy. The sony is not bad, but dont underestimate Nikon because of the memes
