Hi Chloe! I never really comment, but I really wanted to give you some feedback. First, I think your channel is amazing. Your knowledge about product in other videos is on point, and your content is very visually enjoyable to watch. I'm a PM at a medium sized startup in NYC, so it's always interesting to see how other PMs navigate their roles. The video started off great, but I noticed you work quite late (10pm / 11pm on more than 1 night in this week shown). You mentioned WLB + the need to care for your mental, physical, and spiritual health in this video, which is great. But it's also a sign that you're aware your own work hours are intense... Those work hours aren't healthy or sustainable for any person, including talented and hardworking people like yourself. It'll lead to burnout, which I worry about for you. Working that late should be a VERY once in a blue moon event, and if this is a normal snapshot of your work week, that's really troubling to me. There's hidden implications to showing this on your channel. Your audience includes people who are aspiring to break into tech or become a PM, which is awesome. However, the message working late sends ultimately glorifies the toxic side of productivity / hustle culture. I would have loved to see you open up and talk about what made that day in your week challenging. As BIPOC women in tech, we all have stories of discrimination, and sharing our stories can open up powerful dialogues and help people. Real big fan of your content, love your work, and wanted to drop some food for thought ❤️
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts! I defintely talk a lot about these on my Twitch streams in my coworking sessions. I work for a company based in China, so my hours are real bonkers. I talk about toxic productivity and my relationship with it mostly on stream since people are working together with me. I've been planning on sharing this out more formally on RU-vid - just trying to muster the courage to share these tough experiences. Thanks for taking the time to write this out!
as someone who just started my career in product and is going to move to SF in the new year, watching this made me excited for what’s to come! but I also really appreciate how you showcase both the highs and lows - love the honesty and transparency. the cut fruit reminds me of my mom :’) thank you for making this inspiring content!
Hi An! Congrats on your new role in product and making the move to SF soon! There's definitely a lot to enjoy in the industry and the city, so I'm excited for you to explore here! And yay cut fruit is the best
Chloe I am starting my career in PM and I will be relocating to the Bay Area in two weeks. I found this video so relatable. There can be so many hardships for an Asian woman in product. I am so happy to see that you have a group of friends and mentors to lean on. You have such a positive and warm energy. I would love to meet you one day!!
Hi Shelley!! Omg congrats on your PM role, girl!! Excited for your journey to begin. And yes there are so many challenges… I can’t even keep track of the number of times I’ve cried or been really microaggressed before. Keeping a strong support system gets me thru it all. I’m sure our paths will cross!! The PM world is so tiny ~
Beautiful compilation of your day. On a side note, I would love to see a playlist dedicated to your filmmaking and editing process. As I am also a BIPOC women in Product (from NYC but was also working from Hawaii), I love your videos and hearing you speak about important issues that don't get discussed enough, especially issues with leadership as a WOC. Although I am sorry you went through that, I would love to hear how you have coped under pressure and still managed to be a high performer despite toxic environments and what you would recommend for other women just starting in the tech field. Also as a suggestion/observation, I would recommend perhaps choosing a company based in the US for better work-life balance. Also, I loved the scene of you showing how you have a support network and buffer system for tech-related stress and your mentorship. You're an inspiration, you deserve to be valued, heard, and compensated for the work you put out but not at the expense of your peace and sanity. I hope to meet you one day when in SF!
Hi Quiana! Oh wow - like how I film and edit my videos? I'm hoenstly very much exploring this myself haha, but am happy to share once I solidify my style. :) RE: WOC issuse - I totally agree. I don't think I see enough concrete stories out there. I normally hear them in 1:1s or private friend conversations, but it's just challenging to speak up about them publicly. I'm glad you appreciate those videos! I'll definitely be sharing my learnings on this channel too. :) Thank you so much for your words of support, Quiana ~ Wishing you all the best as well!
hey, Chloe! I have been following up with your videos and just want to say thank you for providing information regarding the role. I am starting off as a pre-final year b.tech in cs, was curious about this specific role. Your channel came across . I am grateful to find you here. Your editing skills in the videos are profound and loved the content. Have a great day ahead. more to come.
Hi Nandini!! Ahh I'm so glad they've been helpful. I've been busy with these lifestyle vlog videos, but am going back to doing career tip videos for the product path. I know lots of folks have been asking for those to help people out transitioning into the profession. Let me know what topics might be helpful for me to cover!! Thanks for taking the time drop a comment ^_^
Thank you Chloe. I just saw your channel today and I think I might just watch all of your videos at once😂.. but then, being a product manager comes with a lot of meetings 😂. I just started this career path and I love it so much and your videos are making me love it more. Thank you Love❤❤❤
Hey Chloe, thanks so much for sharing your story here in RU-vid. I'm starting my first PM job in a month and it will be my first time working here in the US as well. So, I'm both excited and scared but thanks to your videos I sort of know what to expect. I might not be able to understand the struggles of being an Asian women but I do get you in terms of the discrimination towards Asians especially towards international students or new immigrants like me. Just wanted to say, thank you and all the best!
Oh by the way, those working hours are intense! Are they normal in the Bay Area? I hope that's not normal and things will improve soon. In my previous role, I was working up to 12 midnight on most days. As I reflected back, it's definitely not healthy as I saw myself burnt out within my 6 months. I really had to assert myself and voice out my concerns with my manager, and thankfully for me, it went much better after that conversation. I still had 11pm calls but probably once a week only. Hope you could shed more light in terms of your working hours there at TikTok.
Hi Ken! Omg congrats on your first PM role! That’s huge. And the working hours are not normal for the bay for sure. Since I work for a Chinese company, I have to take evening meetings to meet with my teams based out there. It’s definitely not easy to balance, but we are all figuring it out~
Wow, that David Choi shout-out was awesome and well-deserved! This video definitely shows that you poured your heart and soul into filming. How do you find working at a WeWork facility compared to a corporate office?
Omg! Another listener of David Choi!! I used to listen to his songs religiously in high school. Was such a random shout-out to get hahah. And I’m glad you found the video lovely!! I really treat each video as a creative art project to express something unique. Re-WeWork: it was fun! It honestly feels kind of the same. It’s neat to see other companies there too. It was pretty empty overall so I saw maybe less than 10 people 😂
haha I def know what you mean! I saw so many software engineers doing it and then product designers started doing it too. There's like only a handful of PMs doing these. Glad you enjoy!! :D
@@chloeshih It's about time now, I had to watch product designers and software engineers while working on my prds. It's nice for once to watch amazing relatable content.
Love the video! Resonate a lot on working with TikTok but love the small pieces here and there that you try to strike a balance between life and work under such extreme work hours
Ughhh these are such critical topics! I def am planning on doing that. It'll take me some courage to share my stories, but the pain is sooo real. Thanks for dropping this message. Helps me slowly build confidence to put myself out there. It's tough!
Omg haha this is a really nice week in SF - definitely not representative of my years here. I do love summertime in SF. It's my favorite! It's still real chilly here. Around 60s after 5pm D: Not like sunny san diego!
Hi Hannah!! Ahh thank you so much. Editing this was such a challenge, but I learned a lot in the creative process. Thanks for taking the time to drop a note ^_^
I'm sooo gladddd!!! :D :D There are a couple mistakes in it that some folks pointed out 😭 😭 but I think it's mostly there. Thanks for taking the time to drop a comment!! ❤️
And I also love the way bubble tea appears in almost every of your gatherings or even when you're alone overwhelmed with work! Bubble tea's fan loves it :D
This video was so cozy :DD thank you for this vid! I'm an SF native myself but I tend to spend a lot more time around West Sac as an undergrad (currently back in the city tho hehe), but hopefully I can stay in the Bay in the future with my degree ^^ This also helped me with apartment ideas for moving back >:3 hehehe
I’m so glad you enjoyed this!! Haha yes cozy sounds like a great descriptor. :) sunny and warm days in SF are so rare! Gotta cherish the limited sunshine we get ~ And omg the apartment I was staying at is actually not my furniture. It’s our roommate’s place. He used Modsy to figure out what to buy for furniture!
your apartment looks so cozy!! Planning on moving to the bay in a couple years from now - any tips or recommendations on looking for a luxury apartment? Also curious how much you pay for rent? We have about a 3.5k budget, but not willing to go much higher (unless we get a salary increase).
Ooooohh boy!! This is a tough question. A lot of luxury apartments are in SOMA, but I strongly dislike living there :< really not my thing. I like potrero (but kinda of far out), japantown, pacific heights, Hayes valley. That’s it! There are so many, but def make sure to consider the parking if you have a car. Ive seen anywhere from $1800 to $3000 per room in these buildings!
I recently discovered your channel and I LOVE all your videos and video style. This looks like you put a LOT of work behind it but your effort shines. I wish you the best success with this channel! If I may ask, what do you use for video editing?
Yay!! Welcome to my channel! So glad to have you here. And yes it does take me a while because I’m just so slow at it 😢😢😭😭 every video is kind of an art project for me to try out new techniques and stretch myself creatively. I use premiere pro for video editing and procreate for drawing all the pics!!
Your channel is so inspiring. I'm also an asian american woman working in big tech and have faced many challenges. Would love to see a video about your experiences!!
Hi Sara! Ah yes there are definitely many challenges. I did a piece about my challenges in a spoken word poem here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1fTjYzvaP5Y.html Hope you enjoy!
Hey Chloe! Loved the videos of Product Manager, Can you please make a video for Resume writing for PM switching from 1 type of industry to another (like from manufacturing to fintech). Love your content !!!
IT’S JACKY!!! Haiii!! Yes haha you gotta come visit and Kevin will have a rematch with you 😂 And yessss I think I should do the “day in the life” instead haha. This was such a big project! I didn’t want to get too technical. My day to day is super different since my work cycles happen in phases, but I should break it down somehow for sure ~~
Hi Chloe, thank you for your content, it really gives a lot of ideas. I have just started a new position as a Product Manger and it's quite a deep dive since I've never done this before and the company is a B2B software producer. Do you have any advice how to start this position, like the first one-two months? What to concentrate on (apart from learning the product of course)? Do you have any advice on that? You can really help me not to discredit myself at the start ;)
@@chloeshih so so hahhaah I'm Product Leader in a Startup here in Brazil, we are hiring Project Manager and developers. Do you have some especific question or test in your hiring process to share?
Just found your channel couple days ago and subscribed, thanks for sharing your work-life stories. I'm wondering, do PM just generally have extended hours of meetings or it's mainly just with tiktok ( considering the parent company is in China) and How do you feel about these late night meetings? do you like it? dislike it? or just got used to it even lol
Hi Frank! Actually I think it's mostly a thing with my company since it's based in China. Late night meetings are honestly quite brutal for me :( Some PMs here accommodate by starting off later, but I also have stakeholders in the EU and the US. I have to be quite diligent about how I spend my time throughout the day!
@@chloeshih thanks for your reply! My work is quite time fixed (like 9-5) and I already find it hard to juggle between self improvement, side projects, family, hobbies, errands etc. I'm really curious how you manage your life priorities being in this PM position where work could go into your personal time by quite a bit. How do you plan your time so that youtube filming, interview preping, spending time with friends and other life stuff are all covered but also not spreading yourself too thin in all of them. I know this could be a long answer, so definitely not obligated to answer it here, but maybe it could be an idea for your future videos. :)
I didnt know there's a teamlab in SF! I went the one in Tokyo two years ago and it was pretty cool! Anyways, thanks for sharing your week as a PM! When I look at my life, it's not as exciting as yours HAHAH Maybe I need to move to SF xD
Yesss!! I went to the Teamlab planets exhibit in Tokyo years ago. Honestly most mind blowing experience ever because I went without a clue of what it was about. Get tickets quick here in SF!! They run out so fast. And ofc most of my every day is pretty chill. This just happened to be one of my most social weeks in a while! Exciting lives are overrated haha. I’m all social’d out from this week. Need to stay in for 3 months and just read books lol.
@@chloeshih I'll need to figure out a trip to SF first haha! Sometimes socializing can be fun but def when it's the whole week you prob need to take some time off to recharge xD Sounds very much like an extroverted introvert like me :D
Love trhe Product Manager series of videos, I'm up for a Product Manager position and this has been really helpful ! Just a friendly tip on your video recording, check your white Balance , your video has over exposure issues. Cheers!
Hi Chloe, love your videos and so much insight on being a PM( also love your apt vibes)! Do you have any advice on getting into an APM role - I want to move into an APM role possibly in big tech but not sure what steps I can take since a lot of the APM roles are for recent grads and I am not hahaha. I'm pretty early in my career and dont know many ppl in the product world
Hi Melo! Yes - APM programs are generally for people who are anywhere from new grads to about 4 years out of college. There are also people who have been in industry longer than that in APM programs and that's usually because they're transitioning from another career path. They're tough programs for sure, but definitely read Decode and Conquer to get an idea of how to prepare for the interviews. If you haven't watched this video, I talk a bit about APM programs: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8o4jFPV2ras.html It's also not the only way to get into a PM role!
@@chloeshih Hi Chloe!! Thank you so much for the resources and insight I will definitely check those out! I also listen to your podcast with Kristin Chen (loved it - I actually listened to it twice haha). Trying to soak in as much info as possible and hopefully break into product 🤞🏼
so i’m young and i’m very interested and inspired by your lifestyle i wanted to know more about how you got where your at and what/if you need college to be a PM I have so many questions. please help love your videos
