The B-777X has a super efficient GE engine made specifically for this plane designed to give this plane a double digit (12% +++) advantage. IThere are a discussions of a lager engine for a stretched version of 777-10. I think the airlines & airports are not interested in huge double decker models anymore. The only issue currently for 777x is the lack of fuel capacity for extended range operations.
problem is with too much capacity, it's still a niche market for middle eastern airlines which are important, but despite the fact that emirates wanted A380 to continue to be produced, one airline, however big, simply isn't enough. and there are too many wide body options now comparing to narrow body which are the bulk of business for the 2 main manufacturers.
Thank you. The orignal 777 was an unequalled success based on sound excellent Boeing engineering, it was the first really orignal jet from a company that had previously re-cycled military designs (707, 747,757, 737, 767) and one stolen from Vickers (727). But the 777 was différent a super plane, as the 777x should be. The big problem is that the bean counters have replaced the Boeing engineers with the self evident results that we have seen. Fix that and 777x will be the saviour of the company or it’s demise.
The 707 derived from an original military requirement (and subsequent order...IE the KC-135). There never was a 747 military predecessor, like the 707 had in the KC-135. Boeing bid on the Air Force's large transport specification; but never got past the initial concept offering. Lockheed won the bid. Boeing took the early engineering data from that project and developed the 747 as a clean sheet commercial aircraft. The 757 and 767 was straight up, a clean sheet commercial airline build, specifically to answer to Airbus' A300, and replace the aging 727. The military derivatives were follow-on to the commercial design, not the other way around. As for Vickers VC-10, it's more comparable to the IL-62. The 727 was a tri-jet with a much different performance envelope and target market. It was supremely more successful. I will argue strongly that the 727 was by no means a rip off of Vickers.
There's no A380 replacement. The 777x may be big, but its deck area is quite smaller than the A380's. So what can be done on the A380 can't be done on the 777x unless half the deck is used for it, and even then it's smaller. No plane can replace the ultra-luxury segment of the A380. But the chances that Airbus will do another one are zero, or infinitely towards that. And last the wildcard for the 777x is how much the Boeing brand will be worth when the 777x will be flying. And the 777x will need a 100% perfect launch and first years of operation. It will be awesome if that happens, but I wouldn't bet 1 dollar on that.
Well airbus needs to either make an a350-2000 or a brand new a360 or a370 to completely rival the 777-9 because the 1000 has no where near enough capacity to hold 426 passengers in 3 classes
Certification of the 777X does not look good right now of the four prototypes one has not flown since Nov 2021, 2 others have not done any flights since january and the other has done just 100 hours in the last few months.
Most airlines are selling their a380 to Korean, English and Dubai / emirate / Australian airlines. Australia needs this for trips to Singapore, Dubai, Jo’Berg Bangkok, LA, NYC & London
Airbus will continue to dominate until Boeing gets their $%^t together. I wouldn't expect certification/EIS until 2028 at the earliest for the 777x. IMHO.
Boeing still sells more widebodies every year than airbus, 787 had close to 300 orders last year , the 777X had 100. Airbus only dominating with the a321neo
If not 2030 or 2040 or 50 that will go on with the over exaggerated delay dates going by the delays. It is still slated for mid next year so there is still hope for certification of it. luckily the plane is not in a mess
@@mmm0404 Considering that the cash cows at both are the narrow bodies I doubt Boeing is happy. The 787 is a money pit, and even if Boeing has managed to make some money now on deliveries, the suppliers keep losing money on them. This will never be know exactly, because Boeing refuses to talk about the overall 787 program profitability in detail.
As 380s age out (and they will as Airbus automatically decertifies its aircraft after like 35 years regardless of maintenance record), the 777X basically assumes the role of its replacement as the next biggest option.
The plane will be beautiful but there is no market for these very large planes >400 passangers. The 777-9/8 does not have a single order from USA & Canadian airlines. That is a crucial issue AB does have to factor in before stretching the A350.
Emirates might buy it, but who else? As that's not enough by far, it would surprise me to see it happen. Even though passenger numbers are going up, it's not justifying another flying mammoth.
Even if you have. The same amount. Of thrust with two engines as a similar size with four engines the four engine type is always going to be safer, With two engines a failure is a fifty percent loss of power,A four engine is only a loss of 25 percent. I know what I'd rather flying in.
That is the case unless your 2 engines are more powerful individually than the engines on a 4 engine aircraft which is usually the case. We can’t forget that the GE90 and GE9X are the most powerful jet engines ever created and 777 and 777X will be the only planes to have these engines.
The thing about this is the cost of the A380. At the end of the day it will still be a 4 engine double decker monster. Cool? Absolutely. But practical for airlines who already don’t like the A380 because of this? Not really. The 777X would be it’s best suited replacement.
the boeing 777 is a very comfortable aircraft and efficient but I still prefer the being 747 always, the best aircraft I have ever flown on. The airbus A330 and A340 were excellent aircraft and of curse the A380 is a remarkable aircraft. I'm sure the A350 is going to be successful.
You don’t need to bash Boeing they’re taking care of that. The 777 was an excellent plane as the 777x will be once certified. Boeing need to go back to being an engineering company, in a phrase - more bolt counters and less bean counters.
Given the state Boeing is in, I doubt it will be certified anytime soon. The flying public, and airlines, are suspicious of Boeing and are unfortunately committed to them as well. One more Boeing crash, and Boeing is toast. The fact that they appointed another financial person, and not an engineer, does not improve confidence in Boeing. Moving the HQ back to Renton WA would be a start. Putting Engineers, not financial people, would be a good second act. I had to fly Delta recently to fly an Airbus, since I didn't want to fly any Boeing plane.
You mean the crash that happened over 5 years ago or what? Your obvious hyperbolic nature is clouding any judgment you purport to have or you're just an Airbus fanboy...your choice, live it.
@@davidoldham1946 The door plug incident is a recent example of Boeing's unsafety culture. 14,000 feet more and it would have been a complete hull loss together with all people aboard. It was pure luck that these people returned alive. Interestingly enough, you call justified concerns "hyperbole". That alone discredits your comment.
@@jantjarks7946 There is always an IF it was 14,000ft higher. It was out of pure luck it did it at 16,000ft. We know it could have been worse but it wasn't and it returned back safely. A worker on the floor made a mistake by not installing bolts back in. I wonder if Boeings says thats an "unsafety culture"
Where does it say that Due to Boeings current state the Certification of 777x is delayed once more to 2026 or whatever? The fact is the 777x is still slated for 2025 EIS. The flying public if you were to name them are suspicious of Boeing? You mean the people that are in the industry who pay attention to Boeing and airbus are suspicious? If that crash was to be pilot error you would still believe it was Boeings fault? Again they have appointed a financial CEO of the commercial division? They may not get her to last long when they could terminate her due to her being a financial and replace her with an engineer? They fly Boeing planes too but you can fly delta to fly an airbus or Boeing depending on the flight. so dont make out that they are airbus all along when they do fly Boeing and are mostly airbus in new widebody aircraft
The existing A380 airframes will become a precious commodity: Don't forget there is a huge shortages of airport departure slots as well as pilots worldwide. We Westerners need to quit looking at outselves only ... the real momentum is in Asia. Huge numbers of newly middle class people will be able to fly and airlines will use any large aircraft they can get their hands on. If the A380 has ever been a "questionable bussiness calse" that won't be the case anymore. This will also include lots of room to operate for the B777X for sure.
Can't wait for the 777X , I believe the 350-1000 simply isn't big enough , the 777x is the only option to replace the 380 as capacity, payload and landing slots will become the most important things going forward.
The a380 was way too big, very harsh to the environment. The 777 meeting in the middle striking the perfect balance between climate harmony and mission requirements for the airlines
The engines on the 777 are 3m in diameter. On the 777X they will be 3.4m in diameter. The 747's fuselage is big enough for the 777 but not the 777X Can anyone explain how a spare engine is ferried to an aircraft in the future. TIA
I'd solely base my decision for comparable models with Airbus, because of their overall quality and safety over anything else. Until Boeing changes its questionable safety and build records, the proof is in the pudding.
The video has the usual DJ holes, because of false equivalencies. I'm not sure where to start, so I'll just hit certain bullet points; 1. Calling the A350-1000 a success, and calling orders for the 777-X "sometimes lacking". This is despite the fact that, this unproven 777X actually has more orders than the A340-1000. SMH. 2. The A350-1000, like the A321, is enjoying success because of lack of competition, not because it's preferable. When you look at sales of all new generation widebody aircraft, Boeing widebodies are clearly the preferred aircraft. Numbers don't lie. The main advantage with Boeing is the versatility of their widebody aircraft as both people and cargo movers. Airbus focuses more on passengers than cargo, and that hasn't worked out too well for them. 3. I flew on a Qatar Airways A350-1000 in 2019, so clearly their order of that aircraft had nothing to do with the 777X. A more objective person would say they ordered the 1000 because they had a bunch of 900s and it was an ideal aircraft for the QSuite, which was new in 2019. I predict that the sales of the A350-1000 will go the way of the A330neo once the big Boeing goes into service.
@@Perich29 sure it will, rumor has it that there's plans for a lounge, theater and showers in the lower compartment accessible by elevators. If that's true, it will be amazing.
Boring 777X is the choice of the future, nothing wrong with this Boeing..the 747 is an all time favorite seller but the triple 777 will be the new 747.
@@02hockeystick19 when it comes to the safety of my family and me I tend to put more trust into the verdict of Boeing engineers rather than random people on the internet. The 737 was a great and reliable aircraft. But the 737 MAX is different enough to change that. I've flown the 777 quite often. Great aircraft from a different time. But that doesn't carry over automatically to the 777x. Boeing now has a LOT of trust to rebuild.
after the recent boeing incidents, i already told my travel agent to find flights that have no boeing jets. not only that, i told her that i prefer airlines that dont use boeing jets at all. it will likely take years for boeing to fix their mess, assuming they fix it at all.
Fun fact. The A340 came too late. Meanwhile, the A380 came too early. It will take far more time before the A380 will be phased out than most people believe. Demand for passenger capacity is not going down, quite the opposite.
@@rocketPower047 Indeed. What I'm pointing at is, if it would have been a few years later, its design and efficiency would have been more modern too. But now, despite the 4 engines, it at least has an unprecedented passenger capacity that no other plane can match. Sure, an advantage and liability at the same time.
@@Blank00 If ever another plane of that size would be built, which currently looks more than questionable, more infrastructure would be added at the airports. As such, yes, it's a hugely limiting factor. But a new design wouldn't appear if that wasn't addressed before in order to ease limitations. But yeah, the bar for such a design is very high.
A dedicated cruise ship is always more preferable than a retrofitted container carrier, but that also means once ferrying passengers is no longer economical the vessel doesn't catch a second wind with more profitable cargo and is only useful for parts and scrap.
It has. It’s just waiting on certification from the damn FAA who can’t make a deadline to save their lives on the recent. It’s been flown on many test flights and demonstration flights.
Nope!! The 777x can't and won't be the A380 replacement. The 777x is just a 777-300er with larger wings and engines. Same dimensions, so as pax there won't be a big difference with the offering you have right now. It's actually a downgrade from the A380 to the 777X on passengers side, but good for the airlines for lower fuel consumption. Only aircraft that can be a replacement of the A380,...is the A380 Neo. 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Again somebody that has not a clue. It is more than new engines and wings, it is longer and can take more passangers. But it willl replace the A380, why ? Because the A380 is out of production...
Airbus isn't going to do that one any time soon. No staff capacity to develop it and it is also very risky. New engines would be needed but most importantly the A380-neo would need re-certification, i.e. it would be a big effort.
Never gonna happen. People need to stop with this A380 Neo nonsense. Airbus has already said many times the A380 is done. They aren’t producing it anymore.
Only Emirates would buy it... start a second production line for 100 planes ? Nope Nope Nope. The A380 was a mistake, Airbus isn't going to do that twice...
This smacks of a huge Boeing 777X promo. And for that reason i will not subscribe. Boeing must sort out its issues and earn the market’s trust. I doubt the Boeing 777X will replace the A380.
Market trust shouldn’t matter at this point because it’s influenced by the misinformative media. The media has been blaming Boeing for things that really aren’t their fault, such as engine issues and incidents on old aircraft caused by maintainence
Could you be more Boeing fanboy???How can you still be talking about B777x when the plane is still on the ground believing it will be flying in the future. Uncertified and latest whisteblower hearings. Bigger is not always better choice. Folding wing tips 😮 wow… this plane is so delayed, if I was a airline CEO, I would look for something else. Adding to that all the problems Boeing is facing.
Same goes for the xlr its still on the ground and had an issue which is now fixed. same with 777x its had its early issues fixed and airlines are ordering the type still. The whistle-blower Sam Salephour wont affect the 777x certification. Bigger and better could be the better choice depending on how it performs. Boeing will concentrate on 737max production and quality. there is faith in them to get 777x certified which will create a big relief they can get things done
There's not a long term market for it either, as it's ill-suited to carry more profitable airfreight once comfortably flying human passengers becomes uneconomical.
The airline with the world's biggest fleet of 777s, doubling down on them to replace their older 777s and increasingly 380s, and sending their own engineers to Boeing to help ensure the 777X arrives with no more showstoppers? That Emirates?
@@doujinflip don't be stupid. it also has the biggest fleet of 380s. you know, the IRREPLACEABLE aircraft? so Emirates, what can it do? have that poor substitute, your 777X, which has NOT YET BEEN CERTIFIED and is NOT YET FLYING COMMERCIALLY AFTER YEARS OF DELAY.
