Aang vs Ozai but they use their words 

OOF! He’d listen to the avatar, his mortal enemy, over his own son. As if his willingness to kill Zuko didn’t give it away already, he cares not for Zuko in the slightest.

Zuko: “Wow, you actually defeated the fatherlord without killing him? How?” Aang: “Prince Zuko, you’re really gonna get a kick out of this…”

​@@joshbuoy8661Zuko's gonna toss Aang onto the pirate's head 😂

Oh dear... 😂

I can't help but read this is his voice. Lol

He technically did with zuko

Uhh, the previous avatar literally did

@@douglasmacneil4474 roku talked with sozin Ozai grandfather

@@agusmol1202Ozai only did until the exact moment he didn’t have to lmao

everyone always asked what to do about Ozai but noone ever asked how Ozai is doing 😢

The algorithm seems to just like certain voices over others. Like how it works better with Matt Lanter rather than with Hayden Christenson for some reason.

AI do be like that

also probs makes a difference how close the acting voice is to the AI'ed voice. Seals's voice being transformed into a kid's voice probably leaves way more artifacts than when it goes to the voice of a grown man. but i don't know. maybe they are in fact a trenchcoat full of birds. completely unlike me.

...HE WAS PLAYED BY MARK HAMIL???

I know I just found out to because this comment@@walkerx1813

"Operating a steam train without any coal? A man of your talents?"

Is it tho?

@@aguuug5139 I think so. Those antagonists are more likable and redeemable. Better a war ended with armistice than one nation wholly consuming another. It’s the same case in micro.

​@bruxinth4660 OP isn't saying that as something that makes villains more relatable or nice lol, it's a flex as in theyre saying "fuk this BS I don't care anymore" lol

the "i don't have to deal with this" mentality is pretty admirable thing, if something sucks than just leave don't engage when you know its not worth it

"plot bending" was also perfect

The lion turtle part 😭

Facts underrated 🤣🤣🤣

Fr like the lion turtle stuff came out of nowhere

Not enough people talking about the Avatar Button

100% something Aang would say

The ai did a great job LOL

Accurate Aang response

y'know, it was really unclear.

@@Danka42 complete with sass on top like the sass king he is.

the fuck is a lion turtle?

Him incredulously saying "You...slept walked...onto the solution?" kills me.

Missing Aang quote: “You know… the library that one of your generals burned? After learning about the sun and moon spirits at the North Pole?”

⁠@@HuskerHornet3145 The *entire* Fire Nation: “Who?”

solid snake behaviour:

I think he is just a fan of masks, but can't figure out how get one cooler than the ones his troops already wear.

not in the damn live action bro is built like a DADDY😭😭😭

​@@iknowmyenglishsucksbutfock2081 because he is one?

Ozai: no destiny is a singing group. Look you wouldn't have to be an orphan by chance?

Jeong Jeong: DESTINY!? What do *you* know of destiny?

​@@jazdigance6403😤 If a fish lives its life in this river, does it know the river's destiny!!

... Its destiny (but with the voice of suko 😆)

​​@@draconshot928Nah destiny is a hit game developed by Bungie Entertainment

Ozai: Thats dumb.

@@TheRoomforImprovement Your face is dumb

@@TheRoomforImprovement Your face is dumb.

​@@TheRoomforImprovementAang: Your face is dumb

I mean he is right

Goddamn furries, like cockroaches, everywhere to spread their fetishes.

Ben 10 mentioned aaaaaahhhhh

Lol

Why did I suddenly remember, Effie

"I had to learn astrophysics on the streets" ​@@pranavshyam523

Well and Zuko too, afterall he saw firsthand that the "little sh*t" (from his perspective) deflected his thunder lol

proves that iroh is just better edit: why didn't anyone tell me i misspelled proves

Iroh is and will always be Zuko's true father@@iplayminecraft2248.

Things that make his family look good make him look good in his eyes.

@@iplayminecraft2248 hey.. uh... you misspelled proves...

I've had the same thought! Ty Lee's the key!

It would be good too to give some redemptive quality to Ty Lee, apart from helping out against Azula. It would be cool to see her helping out a bit more!

Aang could have even learned the technique to block Ozai's bending without the need of EB

People hate that episode? That one is up there with sokka tripping balls in the desert.

@@Gr3nadgr3gory it doesn't get super hard hate, but yeah a lot of people (myself included) feel like it was like, the one filler episode they threw in that really didn't serve a purpose. It just kind of exists and is inconsequential and goofy in a way that a lot of us just didn't really find compelling or funny. It's not terrible, but it's for sure my least favorite episode of the series.

Aang's pacifism was a major part of the show even early on. It's mentioned as a major part of aor nomad culture that he cares a lot about and he brings it up at Karoshi, with Jet, to Sokka on a number of occasions, etc. So the OP just doesn't remember the show there. In fact, none of his examples of Aang killing people actually happened except the first one, and that happened when Aang was possessed by his past lives and not in control of his actions. And he still felt so much guilt over those deaths that it made it more difficult for him to enter the state at will later on. The fact that chakras can be manipulated by force was already addressed with Ty Lee and Katara. Aang had already let go of his attachments. He had just been damaged in a way that blocked his chakras. The spirit turtle was foreshadowed by the explanations of how each of the primordial benders learned how to specialize in specific elements. As early as the first season, it was strongly implied that there were people capable of bending before they learned to water bend from the moon. The same is true with the moles' earth bending, and the dragons' fire bending. It maybe was a little tacked on, granted, but it wasn't a deus ex machina, either.

​@@lucyferos205A little"? Dude energy bending is a fucking WILDLY different concept compared to regular bending or even chakras. Turtle energy bending was not even remotely foreshadowed, just that they existed. Literally the ONLY thing that was said about them up until the climax was, and I quote: Aang: "Hey, look at these weird lion turtle things." Sokka: "Eh, I've seen weirder" That's it. Lion turtle was a giant deus ex machina, especially considering Aang didn't even have to work for it and literally sleepwalks into the answer of his moral dilemma. That's just shit writing. And regardless of Aang's whole Chakra being unlocked already, it doesn't matter. For a show with such clever and thought out writing, it's such an ass pull for them to make Aang just so happen to hit his back the exact way to unblock his Chakra. Can we please stop acting like this show doesn't have any faults?

@@lucyferos205 You’re being far too generous, my friend

@@bevvvy1374 Avatar is such a great show that even people who would ordinarily be able to judge it fairly will still fall victim to either nostalgia or flaw-blindness. It’s too easy to overlook its issues.

​@@bevvvy1374 There was also the bit with Pian Dao (sp?), Sokka's swordmaster, saying that he had a heart "as strong as a lionturtle". But, in essense, I do agree that energybending was a bit of a deus ex machina.

But than we would not have a Lion Turtle... Edited; Oh and a plot line for Korra story... than again, it would makes better sense than have the antagonist learn how to remove elements with no explanation.

​@@johnathanholmes1297maybe make a villain that doesn't rely on that same gimmick then

@@NeutralGuyDoubleZero I just made a joke while also pointing out the stupid idea of Amon learning a way to remove bending.

@@johnathanholmes1297He doesn’t exactly “take away bending” as he just permanently blocks chakra points with blood bending. Basically a permennt chi-blocking like described in the original comment. So actually Amon would have made *more* sense if Aang blocked bending the way described above. Because Amon would simply be doing the same thing as Aang except permenantly chi blocking in a different way. Plus since Aang did so to Amon’s father, it’s not unreasonable to assume Amon examined his father’s chi and chakra points to see what happened and was able to use that chi-blocking aftermath to reverse engineer a method to do it himself with blood bending. I think that makes a bit more sense than Aang randomly getting energy bending, and then Amon magically coming up with this blood bending technique from nowhere. At least the way I described is a clear series of events connected together that explain how each technique was formed and went on to influence the next y’kno?

@@princeytron So basically, Aang pretty much discover a stronger version of Suki pressure point that doesn't make you limb.

“the four trilogies of sacred nostalgia lived in peace, Toy Story, Star Wars, the hobbit, and the matrix, they all existed in perfectly sensible and concise peace… until the plot benders attacked”

Sokka bending on top

A weapon to surpass metal gear.

@@stickmaster400 woah. Stickmaster. What an honor! Lol I said honor.

Batman is a master

oh yikes lol

He didn't talk when Zuko tried.

@@liamjm9278 Zuko just lectured him, he didn't actually try to talk

@@jaxonprouse5337 Which means what I just said.

True statesmanship. Got insulted to his face: didn't let it detract from the task at hand. That's a leader.

wouldve been cool ngl

Wouldn't work like, Ozai did so much shit the Geneva convention would have to update the rules

I mean besides the fourth wall break they did talk Ozai's point was that Aang couldnt win let alone do so while keeping his morals without convenient shit given to him and that everyone, including his mentors, saw his ideals as flawed and even he broke them while in the Avatar state and if he wants him to step down so badly it will be he who will have to deal with the geopolitical nightmare that estabilishing peace between the 4 nations will be after a hundred years of war, while Ozai if he was allowed to win would simply blaze through it by killing the opposition which is perfectly within the scope of his morals who are evil but at very least coherent with his position and goals

If Aang can learn Talk No Jutsu, can he learn Shadow Clone Jutsu too?

Oh god, it's Talk No Jutsu bending.

After Generations of ATLA Fans that failed, the AI Universe delivered the video to Us as an Act of Providence...

AI voices and clever writing are a beautiful thing

It's... It's amazing

Avatar isn’t an anime

​@@Soul.ResonantAs cj Dachamp always says. Avatar may be inspired by anime, but it isn't an anime.

It's because Avatar is a cartoon everything you praised is in the DNA of cartoon/western animation fight scenes it's one of the reason I don't enjoy anime.

thank God it's not an anime LMAO

​​@@thefirstone4864 That's a stupid reason to not enjoy an entire country's worth of shows, because you don't enjoy certain elements in mainstream anime, which don't exist in like prior to like 90s or 80s.

I love how Ozai doesn’t even refute it he just accepts it and moves on.

Traitor Trump is losing this year!

Underrated comment 😂

This conversation deserves to be included in the video. Heck, even in the canon. Better than anything Legend of Korra offered us.

Aang: That's it. Taking your bending away.

The 'no' got me

I've been rewatching ATLA with a critical eye recently, and this line has actually come up in my internal monologue a few times. It's a fine addition to this script

Aang could counter that by mentioning killing them was not his goal, while assassinating Ozai was original idea of him being here. One case is clearly self defense, the other case starts to look like planned homicidel Aang would still be fine in most legal systems, but the whole pacifist thing means he would not be fine with himself. In short killing by accident fine, pre planned killing is bad.

Good writing goes a long way

Yeah but unless the lion turtle repaired him, his chackras were blocked and the avatar state wouldn't work after azula zapped him

​@@divoulos5758but katara healed him with the spirit water right after azula zapped him, and then he had a month of sleep to recover it wasn't his physical chakras being blocked (the way Ty Lee does it), it was his psychological trauma preventing him from accessing the avatar state consciously. so when that rock hit him it triggered a trauma response

@kalinatankova3578 no if you look closely the turtle touches him on his head and on his chest so it makes sense to assume that one was for energy bending and the other was to revive the avatar state

Oh that's a theory that makes sense, if the turtle-lion revived the Avatar state.

Guessing Aang wasn’t taught that by his old mentor..

Lmao. A contrast to his words in the Great Divide😂😂

Dude was lucky to be able to control his lower body after some thousands of amps of current went through his nerves

Correct

Have Aang kill the fire king. It really was that simple.

@@skeetsvar162 I'm usually for heroes killing the villains, especially if they are as irredeemable as Ozai. But I'm not sure I would have preferred it for this specific story beat.

@@skeetsvar162 Why? Because "life isn't fair?" We saw plenty of that already. Because everyone told him to? Since when did Aang ever listen to what everyone told him? Because sometimes killing is the only option? Only when others die as a result of failing to do so. Give me one good reason why Aang should have killed Ozai. I've heard none. All I heard is whining about "turtle deus ex machina". Ozai wasn't even a character. He was a man who destroyed both life and nature without hesitation. No better than a malformed force of nature or a representation of uncaring industrialization. So why wouldn't nature take action to bring back balance? It is no different than what happened on the North pole on a larger scale. Destroy the balance of the world and there are going to be consequences beyond the involvement of the Avatar. Just because we follow one force trying to restore balance doesn't mean that there aren't others at work.

@@rendomstranger8698 you've obviously already heard every good reason to kill Ozai, you even listed a couple. You just simply don't like them, the turtle was a complete and utter ass pull and you absolutely know it. Aang had a difficult choice to make and instead of actually having to make a decision with consequences like the rest of us...the show pulls energy bending out of nowhere and gives Aang a free and easy out. No moral conflict, no worries, no consequences. It's shitty writing, you don't mind shitty writing. No amount of pointing out the flaws will convince you that it's shitty writing, because you don't care.

@@rendomstranger8698 oh and btw, Aang literally had no choice but to kill Ozai. That was literally the whole fucking problem, Ozai was going to slaughter thousands upon thousands of people if Aang didn't take him out first. But the showrunners didn't like the idea of the him actually killing evil fire bending hitler...for some reason. That's the only reason energy bending exists, they wrote themselves into a corner and instead of committing the just pulled turtles out of their asses.

Still, having the main character win basically on pure rng is, imo, incredibly bad writing

​@@1v966It's not even an opinion, it just IS bad writing. Unless the whole show is based around gambling or some shit like Kakegurui

@@bevvvy1374 I guess it could be lampshaded to an extent as well, but yeah, played as it is in TLA with a completely straight face it is shit and makes the ending shit by extension. Still an incredible show otherwise tho

I guess the talent behind the show was starting to run dry by the end, explains the shitshow of the sequel. The first herald of the creative death to come

​@@1v966The legend of Korra was not a shit show at all, it wasn't as good sure, but to say that it was a shit show is just absurd

ang voice actor is 30 or somthing already , its not him. probably ai or idk

Bruv..

That's clearly A.I., no doubt. I've seen enough videos like this and not the real VA's

i know, right? i couldn't believe it myself!

​@@ccutter2someone didn't get the joke

And they're both voiced by Mark Hamill.

Who knows maybe the fire wave ozai makes at the beginning is simply his signature intro move but aang thought it was an attack so he through rocks at him so ozai had to fight back

@@divoulos5758 It kind've was burning the land after the fire nation revealed they planned to burn down the other nations and start anew.

​@hyperx72 no not that firewave that doesn't count it was in the plan to happen. Standing in front of it is like standing in the front of a fast moving train.

@@divoulos5758 Standing in front of a train after someone tied you to the tracks with the express purpose of killing you.

Actually the whole energybending aspect has been a point of contention for years now, and I’ve seen at least a few other things criticized as well like The Great Divide, Aang’s characterization in the Bato episode among other things. Unless there’s been other criticisms more recently I’m missing.

Yeah no this is nothing new. Everyone agreed a decade ago that the Ozai fight and its context (lion turtle) is a weak point. But like 50% of Korra is as bad as or worse than the Ozai fight.

​@joshbuoy8661 Aang's characterisation in the Bato episode? That was so good though. He's 12 and doesn't want to lose the family he's finally found.

@@JayAreAitch I agree, but I’ve seen at least a few people take issue with it.

I think people would be more forgiving if energy bending had been hinted at, or referenced in anyway before the finale and not just a last minute shoehorned concept that conveniently popped up. They’ve should’ve found a way to incorporate it sooner.

The only thing that was even half bullshit was the lion turtle but they couldn’t just show aang kill someone, the avatar state comes back because he unlocked the last chakra but the got shot by lightning so when the rock hit it unblocked his chakra forcing him into a backseat position

@@AdamSlander888 that rock chakra plotpoint sucked and was bad writing.