@Braeden Roby you can't even spell his name right and he's stupid how? Because he's loud and confident? He actually knows the sport but ya would go ahead and agree with suggestion for XBA tf is that shit
Europe have great talent in almost every country, think about Spain, Greece, Italy, France, Serbia, Germany, Russia etc. And I know Turkey isn't s European country but even them produce good players
Good...the scoring this year has been insane but I will say this..the nba was u watchable from 1995-2007...the offenses were a joke...defense was too important
Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez Its still a thing. its a semipro league now with a massive number of teams and they do use the striped red and blue ball.
I'd always thought that the Red, White and Blue striped ball was a signature basketball for The Harlem Globetrotters I didn't realize that it originally started as a basketball for the ABA Just like I didn't realize that The Denver Nuggets, The San Antonio Spurs, Indianapolis Pacers and The New York Nets (now The New Jersey Nets) were originally ABA teams
Shhh....dont tell him that...Your ruining his innocence ...let the kid dream...backdoor deals are plenty ......money is always the answer...the aba knew if they took Barry McGinnis Dr j mosses isel gervin Gilmore they would eventually cause the nba to lose talent and get angry and merge..
Honestly, I can't but notice the irony of the NBA branding themselves as the league of teamwork, fundamentals and professionalism when the Spurs, a former ABA team no less, has since become the modern poster child for all of that.
Check out the 1969 New York Knicks!!! That is team play. They played with a philosophy called "The Open Man"!!! and they employed it throughout the entire game not just from time to time. Because of this teams were not able to double team any Knick player at any time. Because if they did, they would be playing right into the Knicks hands and the Knicks would immediately capitalize on the other teams attempt to double team!!!! The would get the ball to the "open man" and he would score!!!!
Mark Mallone No kidding! Nobody could have had any damn clue what kind of ridiculous money that would mean. Note to self: Whenever possible, get the words "forever, or in perpetuity " into all future contracts.
Alquan The Braves failed because of the Sabres franchise not giving them prime dates and college basketball at the time was more popular back than and the big three wouldn't budge with their dates. History is important if the Sabres gave them Fridays and Saturdays they would have been a big hit
I totally disagree with the lady logic that the NBA was better because of its team oriented style. The ABA was team oriented as well just at an evolutionary way. Plus, more importantly (And I really want to emphasize this fact) the ABA were not shy in obtaining black flashy players and not trying to turn them into robots. Let them play their style and swag.
Since the NBA-ABA merger, the NBA is the ABA and has been that way until today. Everything NBA fans love about today's NBA is all ABA......fast breaks, dunking, three point shot, half time entertainment, the style, flashy moves, between the legs, behind the back ball handling, crazy passes, and the celebrity of players to include how they dress are all things the NBA took from the ABA and incorporated into the NBA when the merger happened because the NBA was a low scoring, stiff, conservative, boring league mostly with slow footed, white players who played fundamental basketball below the basket with a few African American players whose athletic abilities were greatly suppressed because of the standard type of league play. The Golden State Warriors today.....the ABA of yesterday. And one last thing.....Julius "Dr.J" Irving wasn't just the greatest ABA ever but the greatest basketball player of both leagues and in the world next to Wilt Chamberlain.
Yeah,I don't understand how the person in the video say the NBA won when the ABA's playing style and entertainment been adopted into the NBA for over 30 years.
The narrator in the video said the NBA won because the ABA folded and the NBA took in four ABA teams and took all those unique ABA league attributes I mentioned including drafting players out of high school and the Slam Dunk Contest and incorporated it into the NBA style of play and in addition to the 4 teams they absorbed, signed many former ABA players who played on every NBA team that also changed the game with a few winning individual honors and NBA championships. The NBA will never admit it but the ABA is the reason why the NBA became more competitive with the NBA and MLB and continues to grow as a league competitively to this very day.
The sports themselves like basketball or hockey are monopolies, however, they continually have to compete with other sports so in a way, it's not really.
Oh my goodness this is amazing! As a big fan of the channel and a huge fan of the NBA, I would love to see you talk more about the business side of the league. I don’t feel like it’s talked about enough, it’s super interesting, and you really know your stuff. Love your content!
@@ew5748 We will never know for sure if he was guilty - he got off the criminal charges on a plea bargain, part of which was paying off on the CIVIL lawsuit. That IS a pretty strong indication of guilt.
Was wondering if someone else had commented on this. Same founders, same merger (expansion) model, same pay players more than you can afford model, same underage player model, same 4/6 of remaining teams accepted with two paid to fold (although not as lucratively), same bringing firewagon play to the stodgy old boys league...
Many persons talked about the ABA and NBA exhibition games. All of them agreed, it was a war. "When those exhibition games began, the view in the NBA was, 'Now we'll show those guys.' But then you know what happened-the ABA teams won nearly as often as the NBA did .... Those NBA-ABA games were intense"
The ABA WON that series ever year except the first year - and it was fairly close that first year. This specifically included the games between the previous year ABA champion and the previous year NBA champion.
Drink Your Nail Polish aha what a joke of a league that was. Though they did revolutionize the way we NFL games today with there tricked out camera angles which was new at the time.
Living in a WHA city that's what came to mind. Overpaying players,colored pucks lol teams changing cities mid season,rule changes like OT that the NHL would adopt years later. Will allow merger but it's really an expansion cause we want your 💰 💰 💰 .All this sounds vaguely familiar.
I remember watching those games as a kid. that was my intro to the pro basketball scene. Great memories and would choose ABA over NBA at that time hands down.
Mario_breezy: "Jumbo" Jim Eakins! I have all his trading cards. He was an all-star in 1973-74 along with Artis Gilmore and Julius Erving, to name just two future legends. He must have a trunk load of anecdotes.
FYI - The ball is now available on-line from Lana Sports for $79. Mine arrived two weeks ago. It's great to display or to play with indoors or outdoors.
The ABA set the tone for today's NBA. They should use the ABA ball in the NBA. First of all, it's the colors of the U.S., and secondly, as the orator points out, it makes the ball in flight so much more interesting to watch.
the nba was not well established at the time of the aba. The recent espn documentary about the celtics and lakers made that point very clear. Player salaries were not that different between the 2 leagues because the nba owners didn't have the revenue they have today. the nba could barely sell out games in most cities. if the nba had not evolved and grew then a new league could challenge it
That's why lockouts exist ...the nba average salary pre 1999 was less than 1 million....think about this...mj the biggest star in team sports ever was making between 2-4 million a year on his contract in his prime from 1990-1996....that's absurd ...
Tape delay 8-12 teams Boston dominating things like that hurt the NBA ...magic and bird saved the NBA....mj took it to new heights...Kobe Duncan international play and shaq and LeBron kept it going ...now its peaking cause its safer than football so moms and kids would rather play the better paying safer sport where careers last longer...its more exciting then boring old baseball and hockey is well its hockey. ...nba is taking over slowly...its behind only soccer globally as the most popular sport...and 2nd in America ....it is gonna one day surpass football...the nba and basketball in general will be played
DoNKeY wait what it's fake???? :// lmao why do people always have to say that whenever professional wrestling is brought up like you guys are belittling us, guess what man: your favorite movie is fake, your favorite TV shows are also fake! Crazy right???
Ben Soto nah man not that crazy at least movies people know are fake it's sad how "pro" wrestling tried so hard to make it so real when real fighting like UFC and boxing are frowned upon by so many because of violence. And my favorite movie is a 30/30 lmao. My favorite show is on animal channel too😂
The ABA seemed a bit more clever...👌🏼 Thank goodness that they gave us the 3-Point shooting...💯✔ And that red, white and blue🔴was⚪super🔵funky, and I've always dug it...🤘🏼
AbovyantsiAper boy you need to get off yo ass and go outside then because I've seen people almost kill each other playin 3v3. That shit is real. You best keep yo mouth closed about shit you don't have enough info on to make an intelligent statement.
I remember growing up in the 1970s the ABA ball was everywhere. It was the ball a lot of kids grew up with and it was in all the stores. We all knew Dr. J & George McGinnis too, but it was the ball that was the ABA's best PR tool.
Great video, informative and very accurate which is amazing since much of the ABA history and records are hard to find. I really enjoyed the 'briedf' interview with ARTIS GILMORE. He played here for Jacksonville University and makes his home here to this day. He was a gentle giant and a fan favorite wherever he played (Louisville, Boston and everywhere in between.
It is kind of difficult to have multiple major professional sports leagues in one country. The closest thing is the National League and American league, which operate as two separate leagues (even having a different rule with the DH) under the umbrella of the MLB.
Xevious 1 actually the AL and NL officially finally merged into a single company over a decade ago iirc, despite the game rule difference. I'd have to seek out the details again to be sure.
The NBA of 1967 was roughly comparable to MLS today in size, scale and influence. It was the top league of what was at the time a secondary US sport. Baseball was still king and football was rapidly emerging. Even now smaller sports like boxing and golf were more universally and consistently popular than basketball. The Celtics were dominant winning titles and Wilt was a freak of nature but the NBA and basketball itself wasn't yet the global powerhouse it later became. There was still room for savvy, creative and enterprising businessmen to find opportunities to grow in the game. Fans and sports industry experts would've known the NBA was bound to prevail in the long run but those teams that survived could still get incorporated in the same way several USL and NASL teams have been incorporated into MLS (Minnesota United, Montreal Impact, Orlando City).
Aleksandar Perovic because no one played basketball profesionally outside US in the 70s, where football already the main sport of the planet even country like maldives has their own professional league. also MLS is still behind the south american and east asian leagues. heck they even behind the mexican one in terms of achievements.
Great little video. As a Nets fan I saw dr. J when he was still a Virginia Squire playing against the Nets and I saw him do one of those dunks which started from the foul line at the Nassau coliseum. The crowd stood up and if you could say an entire arena full of people had their jaw drop that's what it was like. You just couldn't believe what you saw cuz nobody had ever done that before. I still have my old ABA red white and blue ball and I'm proud!
While we're on the topic of sports organization mergers/ splits, can you do a vid on the CART/IndyCar split? That company split single-handedly ruined open-wheel auto racing in America and it's controversy has always fascinated me.
I can honestly see another league in sports in general happening again. The NFL is a mess when it comes to this. Only a handful of states have a team (california alone has 4 teams). It would be a huge advantage for a rivaling american football league to set up teams in states that love the sport such as Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama, Nebraska, Iowa, Oklahoma, Oregon, Nevada, ETC.
The problem is support. There just aren't all that many metro areas big enough to support a current pro team - and BLOODY FEW that can support one in more than one sport, much less 2 in the same sport (NYC, LA, long shot Chicago, and perhaps Toronto) in North America.
I look at it this way. If you figure, roughly speaking, that the NBA had the best 144 players in the world, the ABA had the next best 132, which means some very good ones. From the beginning, though, the ABA had Roger Brown, Connie Hawkins, Doug Moe, and Charlie Williams, three great players and one very good one, all of whom had been barred from the NBA. The NBA also had little to no interest in small guards, so the ABA got Larry Brown, Glen Combs, Louie Dampier, Larry Jones, and Freddie Lewis, among others. Eventually, the league also stole some excellent NBA players, not only Rick Barry, Zelmo Beatty, Joe Caldwell, and Billy Cunningham, but also some lesser but very good players who wanted more money and/or playing time (Wayne Hightower, Ray Scott). As the video mentions, the ABA also took undergraduates (Julius Erving, George Gervin, Spencer Haywood, Moses Malone). It also sometimes simply beat out the NBA for players both leagues drafted. The ABA wasn't simply flash over substance. After only a few seasons, it was only slightly inferior to the NBA, if even that. I give a slight edge to the NBA only because it had more of the big, bruising centers that dominated the game. In truth, in today's era of "small ball," I'm not even sure about that. One more thing. In the first all-star game after the merger, ten of twenty-four players had been in the ABA. Well, one more. Those ABA balls were great for learning how to put a spin on your shot.
Very good comments. FYI - The ball is now available on-line from Lana Sports for $79. Mine arrived two weeks ago. It's great to display or to play with indoors or outdoors.
Honestly ABA is better 😂, Cuz they made the 3 point line first And the dunk contest And if the ABA was still around these days I bet Stephen Curry would go there 😂 Cuz of the 3 point line 😂
I watched many Kentucky Colonels games and that pinwheel like sight of the basketball heading to the hoop, particularly on the 3-point shot, was an incomparable experience! Long live the ABA!
Brilliant video. Love the quote about it being hard to attract an audience without talented players. Natural substance is always more valuable than packaging.
For me, what's so interesting about the ABA in retrospect is that the NBA today has so many teams in cities that at one time had teams in the ABA. Examples: The NBA today has the Utah Jazz, Memphis Grizzlies, Dallas Mavericks, Houston Rockets, Minnesota Timberwolves, Miami Heat, New Orleans Pelicans, and Charlotte Hornets. The ABA at one time had the Utah Stars, Memphis Pros/Sounds/Tams, Dallas Chaparrals, Houston Mavericks, Minnesota Pipers, the Floridians, New Orleans Buccaneers, and Carolina Cougars.
That's a great one. The USFL may have issues that have become too political to touch after recent events, but it should have more than a passing reference as a counterpoint to strategically "planned" mergers. That whole debacle probably deserves its own video, if it weren't for at least one of the personalities closely associated with it.
My favorite team is from the ABA. At the time, they were called the Dallas Chaparrals, better known as the San Antonio Spurs as of today. They are there only ABA team to win an NBA championship.
Went to quite a few Pacer games as a kid and had my own red white and blue ball which I lost over the years. Thanks for uploading this video and the history of the ABA vs NBA It is pretty obvious the NBA is more like the ABA of old with more perimeter shooting.
By 1973, it was clear, that the American Basketball Association was better, had the better style of play, and the stars the National Basketball Association needed. The ABA did not have the television contract. But then the NBA did not get the contract until after the merger.
Before that, Denver had a semi-pro team called the Denver Truckers. They played clubs like the Phillips 66ers, and Akron Goodyear Wingfoots led by Larry Brown.
I grrew up in Denver, watching the Denver Rockets, which became the Denver Nuggets in advance of the merger, because of the Houston Rockets. I loved the red, white, and blue ball, the three point line, and the world record afros of Dr. and Darnell Hillman. It was a fun league to watch, growing up. I do recall the Rockets playing the Milwaukee Bucks in a pre-season exhibition game 1971 or 1972.At halftime, in the corridor, Lew Alcindor (Kareem) walked by me...pretty sweet for a 14 year old kid.
I didn't know the ABA ever existed until now. Hardly a failure on their part. They seem to have been responsible for spicing up basketball as we know it. Thats a good legacy.
There is still aleague called ABA League (Adriatic Basketball Association) in which are playing clubs from Serbia, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Macedonia and Montenegro
Armory Brunot,Jr. The concessions the Nets made to the Knicks for being in their territory hobbled the franchise for decades. They should have moved to Louisville instead, and taken over the Colonels name and colors after that team was bought out.
@@bricefleckenstein9666 That was THE rivalry of the ABA, too. Colonels were the Lakers, Pacers were the Celtics. Shame that league didn't have a televised deal in place or they would've really given the NBA room for pause back then...
The ABA did to the NBA what the AFL did to the NFL...give it LIFE...both sports had become lackluster...the new leagues brought in new ideas and innovation that brought the sport to life...just as the AFL brought new and better play rules to the NFL...so did the ABA...the NBA was to technical...the ABA brought style and jazz...and that is why today, the NBA is what they are...without the ABA, the NBA would be a boring, tedious game...and so would the NFL...
The unfortunate aspect of the NBA effectively whitewashing the ABA history from its record books meant that for a lot of players who made their careers in the ABA, it effectively invalidated their whole lives. To this day, it still remains an uphill battle for these men. Also, besides the San Antonio Spurs, the ABA teams have largely been also-rans in their NBA careers, with Indiana and Brooklyn (the former New York Nets) only making one NBA Finals appearance and two, respectively, and Denver having yet to make an appearance. Something that doesn't get discussed about the ABA, though for damn good reason, was that a startup league was created called "ABA 2000" which was meant to revive the heritage of the American Basketball Association and featured 8 teams across the United States in its first year, before running into problems early on and suspending operations after its third season when it was reduced to seven teams; two of which were in Mexico. The league was brought back and exists today as a sort of curiosity; a semi-pro league where anyone can send $500 to people to create a franchise and rent a high school gym. Over 400 teams have come and gone from this league since its revival.
