Abilities That Were DELETED From League Of Legends (3) 

At this point i hope we live long enough to when the titles of these videos become *champions that were deleted*

Kench's old abilities before the rework. I miss spitting minions at the enemy. 😢

"Luck should not be a factor" *Looks at crit chance* I agree

You somehow skipped over how Viegar's stun use to appear instantly instead of the delay there is today. That ability was so op back in the day.

About Jax's old skill, the stun was the active part of the skill, the passive was aways on while the stun would become available only after dodging an attack and had to be activated manualy.

The old zac ultimate should have worked like the poppy w. This would make it possible to Flash out of but not dash out of.

the ability i miss the most was zac's ultimate. they could've added a grounding effect while you're on top of it so it solves the problem of enemies just dashing away from it

I miss Rek'Sai's old teleporting ult, was such a niche travel ability. There was actually reasons u wanted tunnels on the other side of the map and even hidden away inside the enemy jungle. It added a cool minigame aspect of hide-the-tunnel to possibly use later for a clutch teamfight. The small bushes in top/bot lane between inner and outer turrets were great for this. Keeping track of how many tunnels and how long they had been up was a unique skill to have. Nowadays you really don't need to care about tunnel placement aside from trying to keep them on ur jg paths and in good gank spots.

I miss old Karma. Being able to use mantra twice was amazing. And the damage from her E was devastating. In addition, her passive made you play to the limit. It was very funny.

Volibear's old e was fantastic. Made it super hard to be ganked and you stopped most engages in top lane. I do miss it.

10:45 small correction, the tether to enemy actually didn't do damage to who she tethered, only the people who collide with the line, so the only way you would get the damage is from tethering a minion behind the enemy, or tethering an ally and then "trip-lining" them

Man mentioning the duel logs actually gave me goosebumps lol I love that channel so much w I'm glad you're making videos like he does

You can do as many episodes as you want, this series is just awesome, I love going through removed content to remember the old days (or get to know a past version of League I wasn't even aware)

I loved that version of Zac's ult so much, it was soooooooo fun!!! I miss it a lot, it was a great time

Jax's old counter strike worked in this way, you had a passive dodge chance and any time you dodged you could activate your E to get a stun off

very interesting as usual, love you vars

You love to make it, we love to watch it. Keep the series going.

im a fan of duel logs and i noticed how similar your videos are to his. the shout out you did made it clear to me who you were inspired by

Love the editing on this video

I loved Zac's reworked ult, and it felt like it had more skill expression to it than just bouncing through the enemy team a bit, or going "oh I got stunned in ult so I'm literally useless." If you had other forms of CC on your team, the reworked ult could combo well off them, you could reposition enemies over walls, into towers, pull them into/out of AOEs, etc. it just felt better and it being reverted was one of the things that ultimately led to me stopping with League- to be a little overdramatic.

Please make more videos about this! It is really exciting

Very nice video as always

Great Vid, as always. Never heard of Zacs old Ult before, but gotta say, even though the current one is probably way better, kidnapping the backline and carrying them in the middle of your team sounds insanely fun. If they would increase the damage, I wouldnt mind it coming back.

Pls make more of this. I started playing in Season 2 so I actually experienced a lot of those abilities live. Makes me really nostalgic

Hell yeah a shout out for Duel Logs! I’d watch a collab about LoR cards in a heartbeat

2:27 Aurelion W, as old fly ability (his old E), don't warn enemy. The dot of his W end range is visible only for ally team

those vids are awesome, thanks bro

Now i understand why I love ur content, u are a fellow duel logs fan! Keep up ur great content!

Volibear never felt the same with his flip gone

I still remember the days where the enemy team was happy for you when you did a quad or penta like in that yi clip. Such good times, way too much toxicity nowaday

Wildrift reworks, that would be an awesome video to see. I’d love to know your opinions on some of the changes WR has done to some champs like Teemo and Shyvana.

Was not expecting to hear the duel logs in this video

Ayyy fellow duel logs enjoyer, I can see the influence he's had on your videos, even if it was unintentional on your part

As a league boomer, the counter strike active became active for 2-3 seconds after you dodged an attack. Combined with a 4s or so cooldown it meant that Jax was MORE powerful diving in a minion lane, as the minion attacks barely do damage but ensured your counter strike was active on cooldown.

The way Zac's past ultimate worked, forcefully picking up the enemy and slamming them into a new location sounds like he was the base inspiration for Sett's ultimate. Feels like a passing of the torch in a way.

Please make 10 more episodes. Favorite league series ever. You can also add: Old Aatrox W Old Vlad E Old Nunu Q (with the buffs for specific monsters)

I haven't caught up on the other videos in this series so forgive me if you've done them already, but Taric and Sivir's old ults were really something. Taric's being a toggle heal that also gave him a whopping 90AD and a portion of that to nearby allies, and Sivir's being a movespeed and attack speed aura. Both of these also worked on minions, so you could really demolish towers.

According to Riot Zacs ult was actually changed back for being too powerful. It was almost a true combo with his E, and with a Q afterwards it was an insane cc lock. (You can see it at 13:15)

I'm surprised you didn't mention how the Icon changed when they made the new ult change but kept the old (new) ult icon with the reverted ult

It's soo good, can you sometimes cover rengars swim q?

Out of topic but i really didn't expect to hear Fire Emblem Heroes menu soundtrack in a LoL video it was a very pleasant surprise 😂

I have a friend that mained Zac when playing league, he loved that ult, and I remember winning many games by him taking all the backline to the front line for easy pickings

I would like to see an in depth video of graves' rework. He used to be my main adc back then, I still miss him to this day.

Master Yi’s R being alpha strike really goes to show he was LoL version of Juggernaut in Dota 2 since that’s his ultimate as well. As for if Alpha Strike still remained as his R, might make him worse because Alpha Strike is Yi’s only what to deal extra damage besides auto and his E true damage as well as his only way to dodge CC and AOE damage.

Enemy top: “you can’t dash on me and kill me” Me (The depresso bean with the big sword): “you think that is my objective?”

could you review the old graves q, it was so satisfying to use and did so much dmg, i miss those days ;(

Yes old zac ult for me that ability was unique and btw love your video

Jax E active used to work this way: After Jax dodged an attack he had a timeframe (6-10 seconds if i remember correctly) where he could cast it and deal the stun and dmg. You could see some animations around him when he was able to. This was to "balance" him so he just doesn't have a stun as soon as he jumps you but you can get the ability to do so when dodging minions and jungle attacks too, and possibly towers so yeah it was very strong.

love the music in the video

As a Zac main who played before they updated it, then after the update, and then after the revert, I'll put in my two cents. With his old Q, he was a great hybrid ap bruiser. The ult supported this by doing a bunch of damage as well as it's considerable displacement abilities. After the updates to his q and ult, he was shifted to be much more focused on being a full tank. The kidnap ult did MUCH less damage, and it wasn't even close. So long to combo'ing squishies, even if you had old Liandry's and some Sorc boots. It was tough to adapt, but I got the play I was most proud of with that old ult. I slingshotted into baron pit, kidnapped the enemy jungler while they were doing baron, and flashed back over to smite while the jungler was stuck on the other side of the wall. Flashing forward to present day, Zac is a great mix of both. He still has good damage, but he has great CC to support his role as a tank. He'll always be my favorite champion.

ohhh mannn the old jg item on volibear when i started is nostalgic already

I freaking loved the snag and grab version of zac's ult. Yes, it was hard to hit, but dragging people into turret range, or putting adcs over walls was a lot of fun.

2:47 Wait, doesn't Crit Chance kinda work like this? Theoretically, a 20% Crit Chance could give you crits on every hit, and an 80% Crit Chance could give you one crit throughout the whole game (though both of these are of course astronomically unlikely).

2:35 I believe you, because I stacked Dodge chance back then xD

duellogs failed cards and mechanics series is successful because it really makes you understand the deck he is talking about and if you would like the playstyle or not while also teaching some game mechanics and game knowledge

Small side note on TF, there was a period where he briefly had Gate on E and Gold Card was AOE Stun

Re: Karma W is basically either giving a combo accel gate + wall of pain (like you said) or keeping a roaming fed carry on almost permaghost. Q and E are also hard to beat since they're not skillshots combined with her passive (which gives essentially the AP of Rabadons at low health).

Have we mentioned income farming abilities like TF's Pick a Card passive or Ashe's E passive? GP also did the same with his Q that got turned into Silver Serpents.

love the fireblem track XD

2:35 ''to paranoid to do anything'' like paranoia? Nocturne's ult that dashes you to a target out of nowhere? Nice one.

The nostalgia hits so hard seeing these. I used to be Main Galio when nobody played with him, i cried with his rework. Then i became Fiddlesticks main and i cried with his rework mostly because they changed the ult's sound, i loved to listen to the crows caw caw caw

One important thing about Old Karma's W you didn't mentioned was the fact you could use it on Wards too.

Speaking of AP Yi, something I remember playing as AP Tryndamere. It was mainly possible due to some weird as hell scaling he used to have but it also had the added bonus of being able to fully heal after a trade with your Q. Also pre-rework Gangplank had a aoe buff instead of barrels for his E. I remember when I first started playing, I would use it on teammates to get assists because I was terrible at actually winning fights. Also that was back when Tryn was mainly a jungler and Vampiric Septer was a starting item.

I keep saying it and will continue, seeing how much the game have changed really is quite the marvel, even when the game modes have dried up, the champs themselves are always evolving it's really interesting.

i played back then and remember almost everything, AMA

Man, these videos are neat. Kinda fun to think back on How OP league used to be - Frost prime

I wish you could pick which Ult to use for Zac each game...I like both his current style and the "wrap you up and move you" style

I know you've done Blade Waltz, but eventually I'd like to see old Fiora E. It WAS the strongest attack speed steroid in the game, and had a reset mechanic on kill (or assist?) and I feel the change made to this ability drastically changed her identity as a champion.

your voice actually reminds me a bit of hirumaredx so its funny you mention him

Glad to see TheDuelLogs get mentioned. Underrated dude.

I really enjoy the content, I don’t know if it’s just my setup or anything but I feel like I can’t hear Vars voice clearly, as if the microphone gives way too much bass to his voice. His pronunciation is perfect, I feel it’s mic settings issue idk though

@Vars I hope you have old Soraka starcall on your list because my God. I remember building max cdr on her and just going into team fight and watching the enemies' health just melt away as they tried to get to me. With enough hits it would basically do true damage! Not to mention, she could just keep her mana up with her (q or w forget). Chasing her was just as bad an idea as chasing Singed. I remember being chased down 1v3 on the enemy team and I had Rayalis and the level of rage coming from my enemies as I would hit them with a slowing starcall every second and watch their life tick away was glorious. Old Soraka needs a mention in this video series because she was amazing!

Fire emplem Heroes ost? Nice pick ❤

They could have made so that old Zac ult gave the grounded debuff yes, but something that not many people know is the fact that the "grounded" status is relatively recent, I believe the first instance of it was the Cassiopeia rework (the one where she couldn't buy boots) around season 6.

As someone who only started after season 8 I love watching these videos because it shows me just how much its all changed

damn nobody puts in as much work as Vars

Could you do a video on broken mechanics? Like for eternals, I've noticed that sometimes it doesn't count kindred's stacks right, and right now kennen's stun eternal won't go off unless you cast his ultimate.

By the way, have you made a video about how unbelievably broken Kassadin was at his peak? I remember the time when his ban rate was 98%, followed by a HARD nerf with a hilarious patch note saying something like "hopefully someone, somewhere, gets to play Kassadin in ranked".

4:20 A little clarification on old school dodge: It only worked on autoattacks, not abilities (that aren't empowered autoattacks). That being said in a big group fight an ADC shooting at a fed jax was what we call "Actively Throwing", since every autoatack gave Jax the opportunity to stun your team, which isn't great design.

I’m glad to have validation I remembered that Veigar change correctly at least on his ult. I recall a game or two where the fed AP character on the opposing team would scale into countering themselves. I remember the joys of it literally being flash ult to shut someone down from max health.

Sorry if you already covered this, but could you do a video on how the Rift has changed?

Interesting considering you and the Duel Logs hit the same analytical appeal for me in your own distinct ways.

Omg is the theme at the start the Fire Emblem Heroes lobby theme?!

That winter map dude... did me dirty on that one. I want it back-

and that volibear was playable support too even in proplay they started playing him supp but the rework is cool

TheDuelLogs Vars crossover episode when

Oh old jax, still remember some dominion game where I was playing some mage and at the bottom two points, I was beating Jax by avoiding auto attacking him then my minion wave spawned in and decided to help me by giving jax some auto attacks to dodge.

old jax E worked pretty much the same as it does now but instant, just an aoe stun that deals magic dmg. only difference is that it had like a 0.2 second cast time where jax stopped moving to do a weird animation. fun fact: ontop of it the dodge stat was on some items, ninja tabi (now plated steelcaps) had 12% dodge in them. phantom dancer had 10-15% (cant remember) dodge in it aswell. i cant remember any other items having dodge but there might have been another

11:20 "There needed to be a bit more attached to it." - Vars 2023, when talking about a tether ability.

I can't believe you talked about Viegar and didn't mention his insta stun and point and click Q.

In dota , the random chance is still present but its kept to the minimum with one exception, there is a heroe in dota , Chaos Knight, whose entire kit relies on random chance. His Q is a proyectile that stuns for a random amount of time, his W is a long range pull that eliminates a random amount of armor and his E is a passive passive massive crit dealt at random that heals for a percent of damage dealt . And still he saw competitive success because his ult cloned him up to 5 times allowing those random chances to be more accurate

Seeing this stuff makes me feel old

I’d like to clarify since wording was weird for Karma W that tethering an enemy did NOT damage them, only walking through the tether damaged enemies. It did slow the tethered enemy though. Though shield-bombing through minions was the preferred tactic, there were some people beginning to explore the poke damage of casting the tether to an enemy minion behind a melee mid laner walking up to CS. It was an extremely versatile ability that was hampered by being given too much damage that was hard to apply and not enough slow/speed to make it useful.

Tf old E was because the original dota had and still has nature's prophet, that has the same ability in this day, but he doesn't have a stun and the only damage ability is very bad.

I got sick and I forgot but I’m yet again asking for a zac video

I like the idea of Zac's ult grounding enemies

Jax's counterstrike active was an instant small aoe stun around him that became available after Jax dodged a strike

Twisted Fate's global teleport on a basic ability was based on the global teleport from Nature's Prophet in DotA. However, NP is primarily a pushing champion, whereas TF has more support/assassin qualities, so it didn't work as well on him.

So the "activation" cost on Jax's counterstrike WAS the stun. The trick was you could only use the stun/damage for a couple seconds after dodging an attack; so while the dodge was always active, you could only bap people if they autoattacked you and it missed. It also only worked on attacks, not spells. It was still bonkers stupid and is the reason dodge was removed from everyone else (Udyr's passive used to give him dodge too) but it wasnt "every time you dodge anything you stun and damage everyone nearby."

I remember why they reworked the ultimate from Zac: It;s the same as Wukong ultimate I like that he was inmune from CC but returning the old ult ver was very good, except that he could remove the CC by using the ult, something that the first ult had