I daily wear a seiko that I received for my birthday in 1978, I wore it till it stopped, then last year dug it out of storage and had it cleaned and am loving wearing it again.
Seiko's tend to have lower amplitudes than swiss movements. Your amplitude is only slightly low. I have a newish 7s26c movement that runs at 245. I also have a 1969 6119-6050 regatta timer with a brand new mainspring that runs as 220 +-5 sec in 4 positions. From my research and experience, I wouldn't worry too much about that amplitude.
Thank you very much for this video. I have this same watch, but with golden hands. It was my first automatic watch. I bought it in 1984 and it will be 40 years old this year. It was my only watch for the first ten years. It has never received any maintenance in all these years. I still wear it three or four days a month to keep the mechanism moving. It is the watch I am most fond of for the four decades together. I have been thinking for a long time about sending it to the official technical service to have it cleaned and oiled again, but I don't dare. It is such an old watch that I am afraid that they do not know how to disassemble and reassemble it and break what is not broken.
Appreciate the support boss 🙏 I’m just polishing out another crystal as we speak and my thumbs are now screaming for mercy. I think using diamond paste would be an easier option 😅 JSG
@@jsgwatchesTry cerium oxide. Available online. Works wonders on acrylic crystals. I do restorations myself :) Mix some cerium with water so it's pasty, apply to crystal and polish with micro fiber cloth. You'll get fantastic results. Cheers!
Interesting, I bought my 7009-3040 new in the early 90's and the serial number dates to just a few months before I bought it. I would've expected the 7009a to have succeeded the 7009 not predate it, however your case back has the logos that one would expect of the 80's. This raises the question of whether the 7009 and 7009a overlapped and not just by a little but by a decade when Seiko's calibres are usually only produced for about a decade.
Great video 👍 Seiko make fine movements. I have just started my watch restoration hobby. All I can say is be very delicate with Seiko hairsprings and the etachron system they use. It's unforgiving compared to miyota and citizen movements.
Excellent job! Well done!! One piece of advice regards this watch movement (7009A and in fact the 70xx range) is that for the fitment of the oscillating weight, the hole on the first reduction wheel needs to be aligned with the upper hole of the two holes of the balance cock when the middle point of the oscillating weight is aligned with the winding stem. This relates to the optimum position for auto watch winding when on the wrist. You'll see this description in the Seiko Technical Guide for the movement. I open and clean the mainspring barrel and spring on these watches. The old grease inside tends to dry and leak out, so it's good to clean and re-grease. The barrel has a split halfway up its side and it's normally quite easy to push the two parts apart with your finger nail. Reassembly of the mainspring is a little tricky, as it's an automatic movement spring that has a large bridle. Note the direction of the spring and also the fact that the bridle is on the inside of the spring and the spring needs to cross over after the first turn. I've worked on the Seiko Lordmatic movement too (5605a or 5606a). Very nice movement and with superior design to the 7009A as it allows manual winding too. The big issue with these movements is the day/date quickset feature. It uses a plastic wheel on the day-date corrector wheel rocker, which normally breaks if the user tries to adjust the day/date whilst the watch is trying to do this change at midnight (always adjust day/date way past midnight!!). Hopefully yours will be OK. This as a replacement part is so rare. However, I have repaired this by making a replacement star washer from a 4 spoke watch wheel and fitted it onto the day-date corrector wheel rocker, which can be full dismantled. Very fiddly, but it is possible. Hope this helps and Good Luck!!
@@jsgwatches If you haven't already found out, Vintage Times Australia makes a metal replacement part for that pesky plastic one that can break if people don't follow the instructions.
Wonderful job! This is the first RU-vid video of this exact model that I've seen, and I'm glad because I have the same one :D Great workhorse and looks very nice.
A note to others: When putting the train wheel bridge on, take note of the click. It will be in the way and will keep you from getting fully set. Try to line up the jewels first, then hold the bridge with some peg wood and then get the click out of the way. Now you can seat the bridge. I struggled with this for a while because I wasn't paying attention to the click and I thought I couldn't get things to line up right. Don't be a dummy like me.
Seeing this reminds me I have to transplant a good auto bridge and works to a rare 5 which has knackered magic fingers. The worn out fingers I have spare reduction wheel and fingers to replace but the movement itself runs fast irrespective of regulator and suspect the "do not touch" arm on the balance has indeed been touched but the movement needs a full stripdown anyway so I can put in the new parts upon reassembly (prob using this vid and some extensive pausing hehehe) I am wearing at the moment one of them new Lorus Y676C automatics which has the son of 7009 inside that being the 7S26C the C referring to it having the hairspring fault addressed that plagued the A's. In the meantime I will get back to my current project, rebuilding a rocking horse droppings Slava tank auto, its nice to work on Soviet stuff, Slava has twin mainsprings and the tube the cannon pinion rides is a very fine long tube of ruby and very pleasant to work with.
I have a query i bought this watch from a flea market but the condition is so good it doesn't feel real like a put together watch can i send you some pics to know if its real or just some put together watch i could not find much on google but the movement is the same as yours
Thanks Tissa, I'm a sucker for the worn look of the bracelet and case so tend not to touch them. I do have a few cases that need re-plating however, so will include that in future videos! JSG
Thanks Derek, appreciate the support 🙏I picked it up this July and have absolutely fallen in love with it! I think my day job and hours soldering have definitely helped transfer some skills over to watchmaking
Hey amazing Video. I havent worn my Seiko a year. Funny thing - over head Its Working. But dial faced upwards it stops. Do you know what it could be ? I got Everything at home to prepare it
These are almost indestructable watches. As far as I know, the fully automated assembly started with the 7s26 movement, which is the successor to this 7009.
Nice result! Diamond paste will give good results on the mineral crystal. You can buy it on Amazon in a kit with several grit sizes. It works well and is much faster. Very good video.
Diamond paste is a good shout! My thumbs after the sanding were torn to shreds. I have another seiko that needs the same treatment so I may get some diamond paste as a treat to my thumbs to an easier life 😅
Nice job. I got similar watch with 7019, day-date version. It needs service the quick day setting is not operating. And I'll have to strip it down. Guess that single plastic gear could be a reason. I'm learning meself too, even Seiko movements are for us odd I'd say they are more natural than swiss movements of that age. I hate swiss springs. Some have like a spring for a spring. They love to fly more than a bird. Seiko has as less as possible. Those things are sturdy just like AK47. Thanks for sharing the video. Gives me some insight in what's coming up to me. Judging by the colors of the lubircants and absence of the tar similar S-4, you are not using seiko's oils.
Beautiful restoration! I had a couple of Seiko 5s back in the mid to late 90's. Absolutely loved them! I have a Seiko kinetic Diver's model for about the last ten years or so. Daily/constant wear, no service yet. Do you take commissions?
Thanks Tom, i was a little nervous about the crystal but was surprised with how it turned out! Glass polish definitely does what it says on the tin 😂 JSG
Great video my friend I do own a Seiko 5 Tracked it back to 1980/1990 It does get stuck, I want to change the whole movement. It's the perfect training watch
Great video mate, I’m on a similar journey, I’m even going to try my hand at you tube also, it was amazing this is only one of your first, top job and excellent commentary too 👍
Really good job and appreciate the time an effort that goes into the video you make. I also am a fan of these watches I have two with 7S26 movement see through caseback
Thanks boss 🙏 this video took around 20 hours to film/edit 😅 but definitely worth the end result. I like the see through backs of the 7S26 version, the movement is my favourite part, but always hidden away!
I love my Seiko 5's I have six of them from a 1969 Sportsmatic to a 5 actus 23 jewel ss. I also have two 25 jewel Lord matic's one of them being the special Hi-beat so I will be looking forward to you servicing your LM. Really enjoying your work especially on Seiko's. Cheers dude, keep them coming.
This Seiko 5 is definitely going to stay with me and I’m looking forward to working on the LM! I just bought a replacement quickset star to fix the quickset problem, should be an interesting fix 👍🏻
the 52xx and 56xx are ostensibly completely different movements in design and from different factories - suwa/daini. the only thing they share is the “lord” branding.
Great video, thanks for posting. I have essentially the same watch from 1975. I wore it for probably 15 years and if I recall correctly it stopped running reliably. It then sat in a jewelry box for over 30 years until I recently brought it out, shook it to get it running and started wearing it. Been about a week and it seems to be running perfectly. What should I do, keep wearing it or take it in for servicing? Also the crystal had scratches, not as bad as yours. I used a product called Novus 2, Fine Scratch Remover for plastics, rubbed it by hand and it looks brand new.
Hello, I just came across your channel because I have to service a seiko 7009 myself. What you have done is really commendable. I also do this as a hobby and I'm fairly new here. I have just one question. Is there a difference between the 7009 that you do and the 7009 regarding the mechanism? And if there is a difference, what is it? I already gave it and I will continue to follow you. Thank you.
While watching this I went online $10 new Crystal on eBay for that particular watch. Genuine Seiko crystal. 30 minutes that mess I'll go with the $10 US.
I am also a watch maker i love Seiko for their simple and smooth mechanism which calibre have you repair7009 have some common problems No1 is back water proof washer second its automatic roater bearing third is its day push system. It was a large selling brand in my country Pakistan in 1970 and after 3 decades.
Great job I've got a seiko 5 watch similar to this with the see through back and it never let's me down I paid 20pounds for it of a friend about 15 years ago. And I also have another one with a black face I gave 10pounds for but the date is fine it's the day that's stuck what could be wrong with it
I am a newby to the watchmaker community, and I thoroughly enjoyed your video. I have a similar model which I have been struggling with and this has been a great help. Nice work 👏
It is really interessting to see somebody lerning watchmaking. I also started a few month ago only serviced about 10 watches. The first watch I worked on was a Dugena automatic watch with day date my father inherated. My second watch was a Seiko 5, I think they are really easy to work on, the are almost no tiny springs that can fly away. The last 2 watches I bought where Poljot 3133 NOS chronographs. I got them for about 130€ each, and they where working and unused and only needed a service. I can only recommend them when you are looking for a cheap chrono, also It took me other 4 houres to sercive.
I feel like these lockdowns have brought life to old hobbies! Good to hear another newbie learning the ropes, and agree on this Seiko 5 being a nice watch the work on, the lack of small springs definitely takes the pressure off 😅
I can not for the life of me to get the wheel train to spin once I put the wheel train bridge on. I I have ordered 3 escape wheels because I keep snapping the scape wheel pinion on the top or bottom. Do you have ANY recommendations?
I have a Seiko 5 from early two thousands ( the one that has a clearcase back) and I am trying to open it and clean all myself. What kind of chemicals do you recommend to clean it and remove the rost?
For this watch, I couldn’t open the main barrel so left it as is, and later found out the main spring is a non serviceable item for this particular movement. It’s not to say it’s impossible, but a fiddly task to open the barrel without damaging it! JSG
You never know! Absolutely no way of telling. Although the watch doesn’t require much of a wind to get going, the lower the power in the mainspring, the greater the inaccuracy of the timing. JSG
Would you know how many screws in total does this movement has? I just stripped down one. just finished in the cleaner (balance wheel not included because I am not sure if it should). Per the catalog from the description, it should have 16 (If I am not wrong) but when I counted the screws I have, I only have 15 :( not sure If i misplaced one or Its already missing when I got it. I am pretty sure I followed the 56.
Cool. I also used 800 1000 & 2000 on my latest video and found it not to be good enough. I have to go back to that part where you say the substance you used with a rotory tool. I'm getting a rotory tool for Christmas and I am also learning watchmaking as well.
Get some cerium oxide powder, it will make your glass look as good as new! I was a bit worried after the 2000 grit as the glass was still milky, but the cerium oxide brought it back to life 🙏
@@jsgwatches Thank you. I just bought some on eBay from China and cannot wait to use it on a few of my watches. Of course, I will have to wait until Christmas when I will get my rotery tool.
it’s a good idea to pull the balance first and install last. Best to protect it. also bare fingers in the calendar isn’t great since your not cleaning that part.
I agree, I’d usually pull the balance out first but thought I’d follow the seiko service guide for this watch. Pulling the balance out first would definitely be a safer option though 🙏
At this very moment, I am doing the same watch Seiko DX 7009A, and this video is a very good guide to do and finish my work, as well as you, I am a beginner in watches. And the same problem with the barrel. so good advice you give in order to let it goes, and get the job done.
Good luck boss! And these barrels seem to be tricky. I was worried I would damage some barrel teeth if I forced any harder, and found online that the barrel in the 7009 is actually a non serviceable component, so I think you should be good leaving it as is 👌🏻
@@jsgwatches Yes, unfortunately in my case besides the mainspring barrel the balance spring has damage beyond, and the date plate is bend, so some issues to keep learning. Have nice festivities
Well I have a automatic Seiko watch that was bought for me when I was 18 now 60 I wore it to work when I was 19 and I got electric shock welding and damaged the watch I tried to get it repaired in the uk when I lived there but it never worked properly how do I go about getting it repaired
Very nice🔥 started to work on Watches today, with budget tools... with the same Movement, it was very difficult so i needet help, thanks for your video! Watch is running now..
I am pretty sure there is no way a mechanical watch Automatic or not. That isnt hand assembled. I think there are videos of tours of the Seiko plant. All the workers wear the white surgical suits with hair covers and I think shoe covers. Several people lay hands on each watch.
Hi i recently unearthed a similar example from my dad's old collection, but the bezel is pretty beat and the plating is just horrendous. Is there a way to remove the bezel and do a replacement with these cases?
Hi, Ive got a Seiko 5 7008-3100. A few of the numerals and the second hand have fallen off and are rattling around inside. Any tips on (gluing?) the numbers back on. I think it was dropped. I microsolder so mave a microscope, tweezers and a watch opening tool but no eperience going beyond battery repair. I am scared that if it take the movement out to get to the face then it may all just ping apart. I know they are not worth much but sentimental value and I would like to get it going again. Thanks in advance.
A cheap and quick solution that has worked for me is using a standard glue stick (the type used for gluing paper). Use an oiler to apply a tiny amount to the back of the numeral, trying to avoid excess spilling out when pressed down, should hold them back down for many more years to come 👌🏻JSG
Just wanted to say thanks so much. That really helped. I have It working again..my grandad gave It to me so well stoked. One other question, if you don't mind, the head on that pin that you need to remove to take the movement out of the case seems bent at the top and I can change the date but not the day. When I push the button, the day tried to change but doesn't. Should I try and straighten the pin or quit while I'm ahead? Thanks again and Merry Christmas.
used your vid to get an idea about how to take this watch apart (had a friend give me one that was no longer winding). Didn't require a big tear-down (the automatic movement was just not screwed down) but i still enjoyed the whole thing. thanks!
Hi there, appreciate the content. Your video helped massively. If I could ask however, I note that you replaced the spacer when installing the movement - what spacer did you use? Thank you!
Thanks so much for the video! I've been watching some videos of watch restaurations for the past weeks and you gave me the courage to start the new hobby.
Hi, I just wanted to say that I am really enjoying your videos. It looks like you are a bit further down the learning road than I am as I recently started on the exact same watch you did (Seagull). It great to see someone progressing and talking through the challenges that I will come to further down the line. Thanks!
Good luck on your journey boss! I’m currently waiting for a jewelling tool to arrive to complete the next project. This hobby and my bank account are not best friends 😅 JSG
Very much like your style of presentation and the clarity of your commentary. I'm happy you got the result that pleases you so -- it's good to see appreciation of a good older watch as a daily wearer. I second the thought of the commenter who asks you to please make more like this.
@@jsgwatches cool. The best thing you can do is buy an assortment of tiny crown gaskets in a box. Usually from chine, you get hundreds in about 10 sizes for about $6.
