Origins was the only RPG AC game I could get into, I absolutely adore the game and it's a nice revenge story that reminds me of Ezios. Also just simply one of the most beautiful games I've ever played.
Formula of protagonist in series is about loss of loved one(s). After the loss character want to become an assasin or leave behind his old life. Altair lost his creed and belief, ezio his family, connor his family tribe and achilles, edward wanted to be rich and lost everyone in this cause and most of innocent people got hurt, arno his father, fryes their father(i dont know i hate syndicate), bayek and aya their son. Kassandra/Alexios and Eivor are very different cased. After origins ubisoft forgot how to make a great protagonist and wanted to chose to follow "our choice is matter" formula.
Forgot to mention how Bayek is one of the best Assassin's Creed protagonists, right up there with Ezio, hes genuinely funny, likeable, has a strong sense of pride and duty to protect those around him but also has this undertone of primal rage and need for vengeance for the murder of his son.
@@jtmax908 eivor is pretty cool, ive only played male eivor and he brings an interesting take to not just vikings but as an assassins creed protagonist. He's not the main guy, he has Sigurd who is his jarl and ultimately does as he says but is still very much his own person. He's witty and pretty wise and often is pretty soft spoken which is not what you'd expect from an average viking. I don't think he's as strong as a character as bayek though, he still has this tone of arrogance and superiority type personality, which I can totally understand with him being a viking but he just doesn't seem quite as genuine and fleshed out as bayek. Bayek has such a huge range of emotions that we get to see and is genuinely a servant and protector of the people, he talks to everyone with respect unless they are truly an idiot or can't be trusted. He feels deeply for those around him and shares in their struggles. Eivor just doesn't have a lot of these qualities, it's not necessarily a knock against him. Again, Eivor is a viking in England where he has to kill and raid and plunder to build a new home so it makes sense how he can't be as sympathetic as he is atleast in some way a part of many of these people's problems. I definitely think evior is underrated as a character but still not quite at the level of Bayek because he just gets to show so much depth in his character.
Origins should have been a soft reboot gameplay-wise. I fully expected Ubisoft to give Bayek & Aya a trilogy, where Part 2 and 3 REINTRODUCE core gameplay elements of the AC series like the parkour, social stealth, silent assassinations, blending in the crowds, black-box assassination missions etc. It would be so cool to see Bayek's journey from a Medjay warrior to a real assassin who learns how to operate stealthily. Wasted opportunity.
That actually sounds like it would have been awesome. If somebody else was given three mainline games of character development, Ezio might have some real competition for best Assassin.
There was a perfect set-up too. Aya was in the sea so the 2nd installment could have some boat additions, and she was also in rome if I remember. They did add the DLC for Bayek but I feel at least The Hidden Ones DLC could've been an entirely new game if they just sort of added to the story a bit.
@@BruhMoment-1267 The sequels seemed like a no-brainer. Origins even has an open ending that teased Aya in Rome. The sequel could naturally pick up on the Piece of Eden arc (the Apple was lost somewhere in the desert and this old lady from the CotP DLC said similar sightings have been observed in Judea). Kawab also said he would go to Judea to oppose the Romans. So we have a good setup. In the 2nd game, Bayek goes to Judea to search for the lost Apple and to continue his fight against the Roman occupation and the Order of the Ancients as the Hidden One. In the last game, Bayek travels to the Italian Peninsula and to the city of Rome itself. There, he reunites with Aya and helps her lead the Roman brotherhood in the fight against the Emperor Octavian, as he's the new leader of the Order after Ceasar was killed. At some point, Aya kills Cleaopatra using the snake (like the statue in the Auditore Villa showed) and Bayek assassinates Octavian. We'd also see the Esio of Cyrene! Bayek met him in Cyrene when he was a boy, and then met him years later in Thebes, when he was a smuggler. Bayek sent this kid to Rome to be trained as an Assassin under Aya. This means we could see him again as one of the allies. Perhaps he could be one of the Assassins that we get to command as Bayek! Like come on! The story and gameplay write themselves! We could have 2-player co-op mode where one person is Bayek and other is Aya. Both playable characters could have slightly different animations and abilities (Bayek being more brutal and stronger in combat, while Aya is faster, more agile and better at stealth). We could have the Brotherhood system where you recruit Assassins, upgrade them, take them on missions and command them while you're in Rome. Both games could explore the creation of the remaining tenets of the Assassin Brotherhood and explain why Amunet was remembered and Bayek was forgotten. Perhaps there is some interesting conflict between the two and Bayek is erased from history. Or maybe he leaves the brotherhood in the end and erases his legacy himself. Gameplay-wise, both sequels could add a lot of great features. We could have more sailing, assassination missions, actual parkour, more inconspicuous Assassin robes for Bayek, crowd blending etc. The 2nd game would have AC1 vibe, being set in Judea, and the last part would feature a large part of the Italian peninsula, with a lot of small towns, Roman camps, cities, forests, hills, and of course - the city of Rome, which would be the largest urban location. I strongly believe that Ubisoft should have done this INSTEAD of making Odyssey and Valhalla. The series had the opportunity to finally go back to greatness. It could have had a 2nd iconic character like Ezio Auditore. An epic trilogy spanning 3 distinct areas of the ancient world - Egypt, Judea and Rome. I bet AC fans would start CARING again. The series needs solid protagonists! It doesn't work as an anthology where every game is a standalone story with some generic protagonist. Bayek was the best AC protagonist since Edward and he was ROBBED. It's been years and I'm still angry about it. It's one of the biggest blunders in gaming history IMO. Such a waste.
Not a wasted opportunity you just lacked the media literacy to understand Bayeks story. His arc leads him to believe they can have no names, leave no names behind, and bring no fame to their order becoming hidden ones in plain sight.
Interesting enough, I tried origins when it first launched and was so different I couldn’t bare it. Played odyssey and loved it so I went back to origins and was blown away by the story arc and the protags story. I’m glad I finally came around to it
Funny enough i actually got into the franchise after odyssey. I thought the game was so mediocre that all other games were like it. Until i saw ac3 gameplay from a youtuber. After I quadruple checked to make sure they were both from the same franchise i decided to play ac3 which i wouldn’t have done if it wasn’t for odyssey being so horrible in comparison that i bought ac3 just out of disbelief that it came before odyssey. Well after ac3 i got into the other older games and loved all of them. Thats why i find it so funny when new fans say that i only defend the old games because of “a nostalgia trip” when in reality i probably picked up the franchise after they did 😂
I played ac origins for maybe 1 hour and went to unity didn't care for it and played odyssey and just basically completed everything (story/dlc wise) idc about how much it changes or how the parkour is different people just wanna hate everything i just play stuff as a time killer or distraction to life
The director was the best ubisoft had, Ashraf Ismail, he was also the director of valhalla and his team developed valhalla also, however he had a divorcement problem, therefore he either left or was taken out of the project by ubisoft halfway through valhalla's development process.
I really like the new way of finishing the missions now. Kill the target. That's it. How? Your way, just kill it. I was always annoyed by the strongly restrictions we had in older ac games. This combined with ac unity's parcour and the combat from ac3 would be perfect for the upcoming ac games imo.
I fucking love origins, Egypt and Egyptian mythology have such a huge place in my heart. The combat in the game is really fun and it’s a good length game compared to the other RPG AC games that feel like it’s taken me 2 years just to get half way through the story
I think the RPG element actually makes combat rely more on skill. In previous titles most of the combat revolves around waiting to parry before executing enemies as they attack you one by one. The shift in combat mechanics along with new abilities has drastically increased the skill ceiling of these games.
@@nenadmilovanovic5271exactly, in the old games, no reason to be stealthy when you can just parry and one shot enemies, origins is the best AC, odyssy and valhalla is when they gone too far
I remember playing the sh*t out of Origins when it came out. Just recently beat it again and it still holds up. Origin's world has such a cool vibe to it.
I still think Odyssey would’ve been an instant classic if it wasn’t related to AC whatsoever and was just a story about a descendant of Leonidas. Putting the AC name to that story really took a lot away from it
This is just a ridiculous reason to hate Odyssey. It shouldn't be an Assassin's Creed game because the protagonist lived centuries before the Hidden Ones or Brotherhood existed. Odyssey specifically focuses on other aspects of the franchise and it is still an amazing game.
@@ac_nerd9794 When did I say I hated it? In fact it’s one of my favorite games I’ve played. I just think weirdly tying it to AC did more bad than good. Game was amazing, but probably could’ve been even better without the shoehorned AC lore
@@SebuTK I didn't say you hated it, I was simply saying that the it would be an amazing game if it wasn't Assassin's Creed is a ridiculous statement in any instance as Odyssey is a marvel of a game. The Assassin's Creed lore is what makes it better. The fact that Ubisoft made a game that does other things for the franchise, and it is critically acclaimed and most gamers love it is enough to say its a classic. The only people that hate it are the ones wanting Unity 2.0 which for me is just not sensible.
@@ac_nerd9794 “This is a ridiculous reason to hate Odyssey” Argue semantics all you want but that’s what you said. I simply disagree that the AC dynamic made it any better. Difference of opinion and that’s alright. I just think that for how good it was already, and the concept it was riding was strong enough to have the whole game be around instead of throwing you 30 minutes of dialogue nearing the end of the game tying this into AC.
@@harrywood3829 I would’ve enjoyed the first one if not for it corrupting my save for no reason and losing all my progress. The only AC game to do that.
The Hidden Ones dlc has one of the best outfits of the newer games and the Walls-Of-The-Ruler fortress is the most fun base clearing I’ve had in a long while.
The hidden ones was goated. I loved the roman forts like the wall of the fortress. Way bigger, way more guards to kill, way more loot and captains it was fun.
It is crazy that Origins managed to pull off the open environment action style game better than the next two. I still prefer the old AC games but i didnt love odyssey and sadly couldnt even finish Valhalla. Just don't have the time to do the same thing 800 times in a row
It's also interesting to note that the player character was a lot more realistically responsive to changes in motion in the older games, whereas Bayek simply rotates his body like a robot. I know this from empirical experiments - when loading into games like AC3, I would rapidly shift the movement stick left and right to see how funny it looked as the character on screen would adjust their left and right legs accordingly. But when loading into Origins, Bayek does what I pointed out - simply statically rotate his body.
This is my favourite AC game alongside Black Flag, but I do wish later games went a bit lighter on the RPG mechanics. This still feels like the sweet spot.
origins is my favorite game to this day. if the older games were remade it might be different but origins plays amazing today and the revenge story is so good, i actually feel bayeks emotions when he kills a target
You do, you've just been playing video games all your life. Hand it to a non gamer and they'll die in a few enemies no matter which older game. My partner likes to try games I'm into and they'll see me mow down 50 guys in ac 3 then struggle with 10.
@@jameer7565that's called a learning curve lol, just because she didn't grasp the mechanics minute 1 doesn't mean they're endlessly complex or impossible for non-gamers to use. Once you figure out how to parry/counter, you've basically won the game already
i think both old style assassins creed and new style AC are both good and they could go both ways and id not complain. like if they made the next one the older style ok then make the next one after that new style ok id be happy with them mixing it up both ways. And i own every AC except Valhalla, but its 15$ on xbox digitally right now and i think im about to have it too ❤
You don't have to do much to level up. Just killing and exploring in general gives you a bunch of xp. Like I hardly ever had to grind my way up a few levels to be on par with the mission, I'd naturally level up by just messing around exploring and killing everything that moves.
Good point on the linear aspect of the newer games. However, Odyssey, if you have the right gear and patience, gives you a higher chance of survival before it's too hard
Even tho you are more level and gear depend than in older entries I found the combat to be much more challenging and entertaining. Even tho I loved the old games I think that the combat always felt a bit boring after a few hours.
Exactly! I’m currently doing a replay on hard mode where even one enemy can be a massive threat if I dont time my dodges and parries right. It gets tense when there’s 3 or more enemies shooting arrows and charging me. Where my dodges, parries, and spacing skills get truly put to the test!
Origins has some of the best side missions in the series and so many moments that actually picked at my emotions. The rpg elements weren't as much as a roadblock either because I enjoyed exploring Egypt so much and stealthed so many bases as I explored that the level system never roadblocked me by the tine i mived to another area. There was so much I loved about this game that I was able to forgive it for not having as much parkour compared to older games and for the 2 times I stealth killed a guard with the hidden blade and they didn't die right away.
I think ac origins is the best of the newer three. Like odyssey, origins and Valhalla. I would even compare it to other ac games. I completely agree that the part of you literally cannot go against an enemy that is 2 or 3 levels over you. I think the setting, characters, the difference between all the other games, the parkour is pretty good as well and the story. (The characters are amazing and I think Bayek is in my opinion has the most reason for being a hidden one, I mean dang, they did Bayek DIRTY )
Picked this up used a few months ago. Very good game in the series. Too many random weapons that I ended up selling off but the vast amount of gear also means you can customize to what you like.
for me the ac origins was a absolutely beatiful game and actually a good ac game because the story and the mechanics the combat system was so W and in the other assassins creed u could counter everyone with some clicks so its a bit mid
This is the only "new" assassins creed game ive played, currently playing it now and im absolutely in love with it. The parkour is still fun, the battles and swordplay is amazing in my opinion, im loving every bit of it, ancient egypt is my favorite time period to learn about and getting to play in a MASSIVE open world is alot of fun, this game is also incredibly beautiful visually.
Odyssey wasnt evwryones favorite, but they did fix the combat lineancy than Origins didnt provide. A lot of fights required more skill than good equipment. Equipment was just there to boost your playstyle.
I like the level system and the idea of getting stronger. It’s a fun challenge to me like “ yesterday you one punch manned be, but wassup now tough guy I got a new sword” lol
I kinda disagree on the "combat relies more on gear than skill." Every AC's combat(exepct the RPGs and Unity) was the exact opposite of skill. Open combat was so easy in fact, it's preferable over stealth. Why sneak and blend around for 10 mins when you could walk in and kill evrryone in 2 mins? Because you want to *FEEL* like an Assassin, no other reason to not go open combat.
I didn’t play Origins, but started with Odyssey and I think it’s fire. Reminds me of Shadow of Mordor. Can’t wait to beat it and get Valhalla and Mirage. I like this new direction they are taking. Just build on this..
If you buy the game with the dlc you can autojump to level 40+ so you can play the dlc, and that does make you kind of invincible but I like it more as it removed the grind. I made the jump from level 25 to 40 when I felt I needed to start grinding, but tbh I wish I had jumped to 40 from the start.
Personally Odyssey is my favorite. Origins is great but ancient Greece plus ship combat is too good. Valhalla disappointed me at first but the DLC was really good.
Replaying through Odyssey right now, and tbh I find that story just as emotional and compelling as Origins. Where Origins is about Bayek's rage, Odyssey is more about the Eagle Bearer's family tragedy and how they choose to handle it. The fact that I as a player am choosing whether or not to kill my father inherently makes the choice more compelling imo. Not that every story needs player agency, but when it's done well it highlights the incredible advantage video games have over other media, and Odyssey does it very well
I think that part that kills me with the rpg games is sneak attacking only does bonus damage it doesn’t actually assassinate them unless your level and gear is high enough
I honestly don't really agree with the skill aspect considering thats per player 😂. I had no skill issue because I focused purely on stealth. I think the game actually punishes you for not being stealth based. Sure you CAN go all out swords blazing but if you just take your time you'll realize the stealth route is the way
You guys can say whatever you want. You can say that this game doesn't remind you of assassin's creed. But the story, protagonist and setting of this game is peak. And that's not negotiable
i just bought the ezio collection, it was amazing, i then played ac3 and bought rogue as well as unity, i am planning to buy ac1 on ps3 and black flag, syndicate, and the ac3 remaster, however, i have decided not to play origins, odyssey, or valhalla
I'd argue that even though the gear is important to the combat system, it actually requires more skill than previous AC games that only required the player to push one button
Yeah Origins was cool it was the last Assassin’s Creed I’ve played. I wasn’t a fan of the RPG play style (it worked for Gow) but for Assassin’s Creed it took away from the core
Ehh, I wouldn’t say a crux of it is being the leveling system causing u to miss out on certain areas. Reason being is because u can level up to get to those areas by playin the content in the other areas. During my playthrough I 100% every area of the map before I got to Alexandria. N I disagree with the whole overwhelming map too, I think all of their RPG styles games have it. But Origins def having the least of that feeling
I mainly played ac for the story so I didn’t mind the gameplay change that much. If anything I viewed it as a fun mix but I was disappointed with ac odyssey
This is so true everything that he says I played odyssey, and I played Valhalla and this game. It is very hard you have to upgrade all the time, because if not, he will die so fast.
I prefer odyssey. It is less stressful for me. easy to use, inventory, even the ability upgrades. The graphics are better too and the attacks are faster. also I like that life and loot detections are easier for me too. And the ships are beeetter.
Lol I'm the opposite, just looking at the inventory in odyssey gives me a headache, you have different builds for stealth, combat and whatever else there is, you have tones of random weapons and items you pick up, you need tonnes of random materials and crystals to level everything up. It just confuses me. If I play the whole game I'd probably get used to it but the menu and abilities in origins were a lot more straightforward and a lot less grindy.
@@mjolnirbaldur5770 Just play it more and youll like it. For example, odyssey has ships, like huuuge and origin or valhalla have boats and I dont enjoy seeing them. also just the details are better like odyssey crew sings haha. maybe Im too softy about those cuz Im a woman but just try and reach higher level. with the crystals, ore, woods etc necessary for upgrades, theyre easy to get once your around level 30 cuz youll get high level items and quest that you can get more money to use to buy more materials for upgrades.
Apart from the progressing system with the levels and the artificial lengthening of the games with nonsense missions I really enjoyed ac origins and odyssey
This game is pretty good but as for now I has a bug where at certain thing the game feezes and can only be played again after restart until the game freeze Again
I feel like there was never any ac games where combat was based on skillm especially the old one. Enemies telegraphed their attack and you hit the counter or block button.
I played the first phase of Assassin’s Creed(the original story) but never finished any of them. It feels bland for me. I’m kinda more into like Witcher style game(hack n slash RPG). Then this new Phase of Assassin’s Creed come out. Origin, Odyssey and Valhalla. I enjoyed them so much and played all(finished both Origin and Odyssey along with the whole DLCs, currently playing Valhalla). The only thing is, you kinda get bored with it sometime because of it being too massive and you can get drawn away of the main story because of this.
