My man! Your questions where great and done in such a great way. Let’s all pray for dr. Tour!! Start a prayer chain that reaches up to heaven. Ask God to bless dr.Tour and make him like bezalel in the bible.
@@thomasjane4167 😄 I like your sense of humor, but that's exactly what he says. I can find the time stamp, if you want. I'm not merican, so I don't have a Walmart in my country, so stacking shelves there isn't an option.
Dear Dr. Tour, I am a chemist and also a Christian, I greatly admire your work and your message of faith. I greet you with much affection from Peru 🤗🇵🇪
Nice! I'm a Christian, and biochemistry researcher, health coach, future physician! Learning the intricacies of science further strengthens my faith and appreciation of God's amazing handiwork! God bless you and your family!
I’m a retired physician, studying bio, chemistry and human physiology made me realize how impossibly complex all life forms are. If you understand what it takes to make even a single enzyme and how it has to be Stereo chemically perfect in design you have to start wondering how on earth did this ever happen, we couldn’t even design it much less make it , it’s mind-boggling
@@forrest7050 A long time in itself doesn't make anything. In fact long times make downhill devolution. Over a long time bears have diversified into different regions. Downhill change. Genetic load builds up in every generation.
@@mks1621 You’re describing very general useful,vast majority of mutations are deleterious,mutations that lead to small phenotypic changes in similar species.That doesn’t begin to explain the enormous complexity of plant and animal life on earth.
I don’t think I’d go that far because I know of many scientists who are very upfront about Who their God is. He is a man I admire, that’s for sure, for his open stance about being a disciple of Christ Jesus. I’m not criticizing your opinion, either. Shalom
@@michaelbrickley2443 This sort of superlatives of the OP are exactly the other side of THE IDOL WORSHIP - commonly also known as THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN - that contribute equally to the confusion!
@@josemoody1743 Thank you for your reply.... ABSOLUTELY as far as I can see, which is one faction being led astray by THE SYNAGOGUE OF LIES ... of which (factions) there are innumerable, depending how one dissects them but in the final analysis they all worship BAAL ... without realising it or even more blinded believing to do GOD ALMIGHTY'S work and funny enough thereby fulfilling GOD ALMIGHTY'S PROPHECY ... just not in the way they "see" it!
Jesus said . “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first." Keep strong my dear brothers and don't stop being a voice of truth in a world where truth is being pushed aside.
@noelburke6224 what does the origin of life have to do with how we live our lives? If you believe everything came from nothing, then the answer to your question would be 'absolutely nothing.' But if you conclude that "something" created everything, and since you are a part of that 'everything,' then the answer to your question is "absolutely everything."
@jerrylong6238 There is historical non-biblical evidence for the birth, life, & death of Jesus Christ. There are eyewitness accounts of non-followers of Jesus as well as followers who saw a resurrected Jesus. The evidence is there if you wish to read it.
About two weeks ago I googled 'Has life been created in a lab?' and the answer was Yes, and some scientist's name connected to it. I checked it again today, and now the answer has changed: scientists can create a 'synthetic cell that grows and divides normally.' Keep fighting to eradicate the lies, dr. Tour.
I had to search for that question to read too. They didn't actually create life. They took a cell and destroyed the DNA and then replaced it with a man made one. Google has really turned to a pile of 💩
Not true. They altered the DNA in the already living, created cell. They did not create the entire organism from scratch. Altering the DNA is easy to do: The redesigned genetic code was then chemically synthesized and, piece by piece, added to E coli where it replaced the organism’s natural genome. The result, reported in Nature, is a microbe with a completely synthetic and radically altered DNA code.
@pyropulseIXXIthanks for putting that out there. I would have had to take them at their word. There is a lot of intellectual dishonesty going on in the science world, and its because they hate the idea of having to answer to GOD. I guess that's too bad for them, because they are going to answer to HIM whether they want to or not.
There is a difference between creating synthetic life, that is, manufacturing life at our will, and what I think it would be to evolve life from chemistry. I imagine it's the second thing you were waiting for. Well that's not how it works. Experiments on abiogenesis aim to discover the steps necessary for life to arise and they are solving it
I've recently discovered you, Dr. James Tour, and I'm cheering you on with all my heart. Thank you for unveiling the current state of the origin of life research. For me, what really makes you stand out is that you don't go down to the level of those who attack you, but you remain professional and reflect the commandments of Jesus. Not sure how many Orthodox Christian monks you've met, but I'm at least one that support your mission. Praying for you often.
He lies about the current state of OOL research and has been called out and had it pointed out. I don’t know how it can be seen as “professionalism” to deny and misrepresent science and replace it with wizardry.
@@dross4207 I understand where you’re coming from and how you feel, brother. What I appreciate with Dr. James Tour is that he encourages everyone that disagree with him to point out where he’s wrong, but with the condition of citing papers and scientific data. That is what it means to be professional, if you’d ask me. Some people just get angry and “argue” with personal attacks. Forgive me for saying this, but that is what we do in kindergarten-the person disqualifies himself and cannot be taken seriously.
@@dross4207 How "professional" is it to believe in magic lightning bolts hitting the premortal swamp and creating complex symbiotic life, all just in time to feed other hungery life forms! I wonder if that's why professional Albert Einstein believed in a Creator god! How un-professional was he, not warship at your religious, faith based alter of magic evolution, Right? And you talk about liar's & science? Come on!
@@stevemitz4740 For one thing, Albert Einstein was an atheist, and it’s rather pathetic that theists quote mine and misrepresent what he said. Regardless, what someone believes is irrelevant to what is true. Smart people are capable of believing silly things. I’m not sure if you’re aware, but evolution states nothing about the origins of life. It appears that the entire breadth of your scientific understanding has came from YEC conmen and the nonsense that they preach. Evolution is a fact of reality, so if you want to deny it, it only makes you a reality denier. Abiogenesis is just a hypothetis, and no one is claiming that it’s the definitive explanation for the origin of life. On a side note, yes, lightning hitting a pool of water is way more plausible and rational than saying that a floating wizard did it.
This is just another case of James tour grandstanding. They don’t want to hear proof matter of fact, what they do is they take the proof claim it is their own and hide it. They stay with an a small peer group of who they already know is wrong so they can always appear to be right.
A simple challenge to 10 of the Top atheist scientists, what’s grandstanding about that ….??? Seems to me, he’s opened himself up to be discredited, that takes brass balls…..
Thank you Dr. Tour for standing up for the truth. As a pharmacist I see science information manipulated everyday for some to make a great deal of money. Many practitioners today just do what they’re told without using their knowledge of science to heal patients, it’s more about selling drugs. The oxycodone problem is a perfect example of how low some companies will go to make money.
Don’t forget IVM and HCQ! So many people died due to a lie,one the FDA was recently sued for. Yet insurance companies and some pharmacies based on this lie, refuse to fill these scripts and come between a doctor and their patient. I hope there will be more litigation and perhaps a class action lawsuit.
The medical field is one of the most confirmation-bias conformist cultures I've ever seen, mainly because people don't want to lose their source of income after investing so much time and effort into their academic qualifications. People become insular and religious about what is taught in academia, with no scientific methodology to back it.
Thank God for docs like Dr. Joel Fuhrman, Dr. Michael Greger, Dr. Neal Barnard, Dr. Brooke Goldner, Dr. Saray Stancic, etc., who help people heal, with Nutrition/Lifestyle, and not relying on pharma drugs! Check them out :)
Corporations in collaboration with National Governments rule the Capitalist World.Competition no longer exists Profit makes the agenda and science is a new religion where people believe uncritically. Anyone who exposes this truth has to be cancelled to keep the rest in line .Universties are now the Masters of double speak and deception
As a PhD Microbiologist, I applaud Dr. Tour's taking on the "consensus". I was thoroughly indoctrinated into abiogenesis and macro evolution through my Ivy League undergrad education. However, omce God saved me in grad school, I was totally enraged at the scientific facts that were left out of the teaching... all those facts that went against the accepted narrative.
Inconvenient truths are ignored and discarded, because student loans aren't going to pay themselves, and bucking the system is not going to get you a tenured position.
@@Mick0722MXThat's not the point, Mickey. The point is they can't demonstrate, have never observed, can't measure, can't repeat with experiment ANY OF THEIR BALONEY. If they're really that close, let's see them repeat what brainless forces and chemistry supposedly created billions of years ago.
Academics teach out if two sides of their mouths. 1)they teach how abiogenesis was disproven and all life comes from pre-existing life. THEN they will tell you the first life originated through abiogenesis, whether on earth or elsewhere. 2)tell you about the scientific methods, then proceed to tell you “facts” without repeated verifiable experiments, especially on principles concerning historical questions rather than scientific ones. When you say Klingon is not a real language, they will just say, “but you are not an expert in Klingon.”
@@tonymaurice4157 ok! That means they haven't worked out how life got started. It doesn't mean they never will. There are a lot of things we haven't figured out yet, but there are a lot things we have figured out. Not one explanation has included god. Why is that?
@@stevemitz4740 He is right..Meyer ignores all research that does not fir his narratieve or he straight out lies about it. This, after aall is his job at the ill-named Discovery Institute, where they do no research at all, none, and of which one of its founders Howard F. Ahmanson, Jr. openly wants to replace democracy with a fundamentalist theocracy.
I have been a science teacher for about 15 years and have been the lone creationist in my department every year. Most of the teachers claim to be Christians, but when they teach evolution, they make it a creator. Making change over time a creator is a religion. It's still a form of creationism but it lacks that label and is called science. They dismiss all of the intelligent design aspects as a result of random mutations. I'd love to have a discussion like this with you to expose your work to our humble population of creationists. I have done some work on the missing links and most of the fraudulent work produced by evolutionists, but your challenges are on a different level. Thanks for your work!
Have you ever asked them about the absence of any observation of positive, beneficial mutations drastic enough to produce an entirely new genus and that can also be passed down to multiple generations sufficiently to sustain a population of said new genus? I mean, the idea that mutations - the overwhelming majority of which are detrimental - are responsible for the present biodiversity is just intuitively preposterous. Claiming that "billions of years of randomness" fixes it is more of an exercise of faith than any religious explanation I've ever heard. It is not observable, testable, verifiable, etc. therefore it is not science. The gaps between the different genus's in an evolutionary system are larger than the gap between "everything is complicated" and "it must come from the mind of an intelligent being". It has become a religion of its own. Intelligent design isn't provable in a scientific institution either, but as secular institutions can't we just admit we cannot prove anything and that there are multiple conflicting theories that all make great leaps of faith?
I stumbled upon Dr. Tour's teachings about 5 years ago, and have been a huge fan ever since. He is utterly brilliant in his knowledge, but still able to talk it down so a layman like me can understand it. I have read several of his books as well, and can't say enough about his love for organic chemistry and God. He is a truly blessed both in his knowledge and his ability to teach it. Truly, a great man!
They'll wait till the deadline is reached, then bitch around about having missed the deadline although they were actually able to defeat the challenge.
Critics who say Tour is unqualified to critique OoL research and the science of OoL are completely showing their desperation. I enjoy that Tour throws down this challenge. It really forces the critics to put up or shut up. By the way, I loved Tour in the debate, he just shows a lot of passion for what he's fighting for and that is admirable
That debate was embarrassing for fake professor Dave. Dave simply kept regurgitating headlines and paraphrasing abstracts and conclusions. As Dr Tour knows, much of that is hype. When you analyze the data, it doesn’t align with the headline and conclusion. Biotech degree here. They have no clue how or why nucleotides arrange themselves in the fashion it does to code for proteins.
Ool research has much in common with research into dark matter, trans matter and black lives matter, it is all total fabricated nonsense. All it ever does is finding the outcomes it desires and avoid any confrontation with reality via debate or testing via the scientific method. We are now dealing with a full blown pagan religion that spans all institutions in The West.
So an organic chemist, a renowned one at that, can't critique prebiotic chemistry of origin of life.... but only OoL researchers can critique other OoL researchers? Hm convenient...
Thanks Dr. Tour for courageously and tirelessly explaining OOL to the rest of us. The more that I listen to you the I understand the science involved and tge real state of OOL research.
“Science has had an extraordinary success in tracing the chain of cause and effect back-wards in time. For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountain of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the highest rock, he is greeted by a bunch of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.” Robert Jastrow.
At that time Jesus declared, "I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because You have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was well-pleasing in Your sight." -- Matthew 11:25-26 _Brothers, consider the time of your calling: Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were powerful; not many were of noble birth. But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. He chose the lowly and despised things of the world, and the things that are not, to nullify the things that are, so that no one may boast in His presence._ -- 1 Corinthians 1:26-29
In your universities, if you go to the faculty of information science they will tell you that information can not come from a vacuum, but then you go over to the faculty of biology and they'll tell you YES IT CAN 😂😂😂
Thank you for being diligent and accountable. I am also listening to your study of the Bible. I shared it with a friend whom is challenged in reading. He said he understood you and appreciated you not making it complicated to understand. Thank you 🙏 ❤
@@mirandahotspring4019 The problem with the scientific community is they can't scientifically answer Dr Tour's questions . If the chemical process to origin of life could be scientifically explained , then OK . Saying he is a Ranting Fool does nothing for science .
@@mirandahotspring4019 That is their usual tactic when they are confronted with something that challenges their "theories". They don't like challenges.
@@KelliAnnWinkler Scientists love challenges. It's just that Tour has no idea how OoL researchers actually investigate the matter. His dishonesty is purely based on his religious adherence. Do not compare a dogmatist to a scientist.
@@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440 Newsflash... OoL researchers actually have no idea how they investigate the matter. Tour correctly calls them out for their lack of scientific method.
James. Bless You. May God continue to use you powerfully in the area of science and in every other area. Also thank you for being sincere and vulnerable. I don't condemn you we all have our shortcomings. Keep strong. I pray for you brother.
41:00 - Professor Walter Veith, originally a zoology professor fron South Africa, had the same experience! His story and reasoning is fantastic & I'm really grateful that other voices are also out there.
As a 79 year old Canadian, I remember in grade 5 in Toronto in 1955, being taught that a simple cell was made of protoplasm. OHHH .... that sounds really scientificy so it must be true.
I'm so glad I had this presented by RU-vid! I recently started listening to Dr. Meyer's "Signature in the cell" which is by the way a really tough topic for me, having English only as a second language, but is soooooo interesting. It gave me the necessary background for understanding you much more deeply! Thank you so much
Great content!1:04 In Botany class at university this happened. The professor was telling that flowers developed organic mechanisms to attract bees to pollinate them. I raised my hand and very respectfully asked him to show me the organic chemistry of the mechanisms' development. He turned beet red and without a word stormed out of the room with the slideshow stuck on that slide. I was a well known leader among the Christian students, but I was asking a rational Scientific question that deserved being asked. He was painting us a fairy tale and I wanted real KNOWN Botany.
The whole "random" "accidental" argument falls apart when you take into account the odds against a single protein forming that way. The universe isn't old enough for it to happen.
The odds are 10^164 - which is more atoms than there are in the observable universe - to randomly generate a single protein of 150 parts. Versus 10^350,000,000 to get from that to life. They know the odds. They know there isn't enough time. They know the chemical composition doesn't favour the argument. But they believe it anyway. The true God of the gaps is a string of 10 with 350 M zeroes after it. But, somehow, it is.
@@sciencerules8525 Be careful before calling creationist math “stupid.” You’ve made the claim, now back it up. Dr Tour’s entire point is how secular science can’t argue for origin of life. Where is your evidence?
@sciencerules8525 name them and their function and then show a pathway for then to be formed naturalistically then encoded and reproduced using other proteins. That's the kind of process we see in life after all. Feel free to educate yourself enough in order to be able to defend your own words.
God's most amazing child, that this high school drop out like me, has ever had the pleasure of listening to for the last several years. God bless you abundantly James Tour.
Great topic well covered! There is no such thing as a simple cell! A single cell, yes, but a simple cell … absolutely no! There are plenty of PhDs left in enhancing our understanding of the 'simple' cell! 😊
@@forrest7050 My understanding is, it takes 17 properly arranged molecules to mate with 17 other properly arranged molecules just to form a single protein building block, for simple life! Please correct me if I'm wrong!
@@stevemitz4740 You haven't given me enough information here to be able to answer your question. Can you be more specific in which protein building blocks you are referring to. Proteins are functional proteins, they are not building blocks per se. Once formed, they will bind to other molecules joined by weak covalent bonds. Is that what you mean regarding your 17 molecules? can you be a bit more precise in your question The actual building blocks of proteins are amino acids which are small organic molecules that consist of an alpha carbon atom linked to an amino group, a carboxyl group, a hydrogen atom, and a variable component called a side chain. The simplest amino acid is Glycine, which has the chemical formula C2H5NO2, the side chain in this case being a single hydrogen atom. A single molecule of Glycine therefore has 10 atoms, somewhat less than the 34 you are talking about. £4 atoms would be a pretty complex amino acid. Most known amino acids have around 20 to 230 atoms I believe. Just to clarify, the alignment of atoms and molecules which allows them to bond together happens pretty automatically depending on whether the end points are hydrophilic or hydrophobic, and on the valency of the electrons in the molecules to form the covalent bonds between the atoms.. It can be imagined as the way two magnets align themselves automatically depending on the attraction or repulsion of their poles. They have no choice. They can only align in a certain way when they meet., and if they are facing the wrong way they turn to link together.
I personally believe we will never understand because it's not meant for us too. I think we as humans have missed the whole point of life and have gotten lost in our greed.
I see this this kind of sophistry EVERYWHERE! Instead of engaging with the argument itself, it is simply discarded in some way. The Woke does this, the learned do it, the ignorant do it, narcissists do it, it's a universal technique! After pointing out to them many times that they have not actually dealt with the argument in any kind of rational manner, they either walk away or become more and more menacing in their attacks, even to the point of threatening violence. These people appear to reject reason itself. Thank you, Dr. Tour, for exposing this irrationality.
Ad hominem, straw manning, gaslighting, projection, appeals to authority. Standard faire for atheists of all professions and walks of life. They pretend they aren't human or biased or that their life experiences and emotions don't affect their perspective. We are all the same. Everyone has faith in something.
Yes, I remember as far back as 2004, when I first got interested in Intelligent Design, I noticed this. I'm actually thankful for the woke movement. They've basically took what the universities have done in secret for decades, and blown it wide open for the whole world to see.
Rice must be a great university most schools would cut ties with teachers like Dr Tour who think independent from what the accepted books say and can also back it up his evidence.
I am not sure what is the weight of the research, patents and start-ups with hand of Dr. Tour... I guess he made hard to the university to silent him...
It's sad that we actually expect university's to get rid of free thinking professors. We know how woke thinks & we know they have no time for free thinkers. We now accept this from our universities.
I first saw you when you were on a channel for the Jewish people who found YESHUA. I love what you’re doing and the challenge you’re giving to wake people up and put light on deception.
The Feynman principle or technique; “If you can’t explain it, you don’t understand it”. It’s a great technique in studying too. Study a concept until you can clearly verbalize and communicate it to another person.
Back in my college days, I remember my calculus professor teaching limits. One in particular sticks in my memory: the limit of 1/x as x approaches infinity = 0. Now, this is just me here, but I'd say that 1/(1×10^121) [or any other absurd denominator one could input] looks alot like 0 to me. The faith required to believe in the intelligence and benevolence of randomness is astonishing, to put it mildly. A God of the gaps argument isn't sufficient to fill the gaps they (origin of life scientists and evolutionary biologists) leave. However, the biggest question of all remains unanswered: From what source do the evolutionary pressures which cause life to spontaneously erupt from disorganized matter emanate? Materialism presents no viable answer to this question. Why would elemental material seek to become more complex? Not how. Why?
This is a good line of reasoning. Who cares if we can't prove God did it? There is no other stronger explanation, even based on scientific evidence. I hope the scientific community will one day recognize the importance of being honest and having enough integrity to admit they don't know, and that many of them rely on faith in the unknown to underpin their belief in evolutionary biology or natural selection or any other explanation for the origins of life and the development of complex organisms. And then to stop mistreating and denigrating creationists and intelligent design proponents for relying on faith for certain parts of their explanation to work. Debate is fine. Gaslighting and gatekeeping is disingenuous. Claiming we lay people can't understand it anyways is lazy.
It doesn't need a why or rather we don't need to be able to access the why..if it's material, how is the why and that's it for us boxed agents. Self organizing systems driven by traversing energy gradients don't need a why, so why do you need an answer for a material why? Now I believe in God but your last question is not sensible. Conceivably gravity, theories of open and closed systems, entropy all could provide viable force gradients to explain how, but we can never reason about why. Consider these cases: why does fission work? why are triangles the strongest shape? Why do classical orbital systems become planar only in 3d space? Not how, why? Doesn't make sense, does it? We can answer how, but attempting to solve a natural mechanism's why is an impossible philosophical quip to march from..it doesn't mean the mechanism doesn't exist because we can't perceive the why. I'm not arguing to say life can spontaneously form. Since the how is so far fetched, and i'd try to argue impossible, I'm not disagreeing with you. It just seems that you're not being quite accurate or thorough...there are many thousands of incredible examples of mechanistic self organization. Personally I think it took intelligent design, because if you've actually spent time fine tuning simulations and exploring the emergent phenomena you'd know nothing really works for what can work, but it's not so simple as saying there is no explanation because there is so much out there. Even Tour isn't so confident.
@GRAYgoose124 I never inferred that I was more intelligent than Dr. Tour. And you can dispense with the snarkiness. Talking down to me only makes me doubt the validity of any of your arguments. When you write of self-organizing systems and the "how" being more important than the "why" it limits the field of study of the origin of life to materialistic phenomena. Mechanistic self organization occurs within comparatively simplistic systems. Shaking marbles in a box does not a cell make. Now, if you want to address me like an equal, then we can have a dialog. But being talked down to by a random dude on the internet does nothing for me.
I bet if you stretched a tape measure across the entire universe, the entropy fine tuning range for permitting life wouldn’t even be the width of a quark, and the rate of entropy could have happened upon any spot along that universe long tape measure. The idea that the universe happened upon that exact width is absurd. Clearly God put it there.
Thank you so much Dr. James Tour, for bringing this out into an open forum and seeking clear answers from those in field of the Origin of Life. I hope they will give honest responses. I also hope that believers will be more encouraging to you. Thank you for being human. Please keep doing what you're doing! I really believe that this is so very important.
James, you said you posted the 'debate video' even though you weren't proud of it. The *truth* is, *you knew* you were *live streaming* the debate in 'real time'. So you *had no choice* to post it. So you're kind of *lying about that.* Am I wrong ?
And it is going to be an interesting, if chilly, parade. Thanks for the catchy tune. A child of the fifties I heard a song like this on Children's Choice on Saturday mornings (Uncle Mac BBC) Was it Hans Christian Andersen that told our world about the king's new expensive suit ?. Roger Penrose wrote quite seriously about The Emperor's New Clothes.
At 51:17, he says, "I have never seen Discord between a scientific fact and something that's said in the Bible" ?? ?? Isn't it scientific fact that a living complex organism cannot die, begin decomposition, then come back to life 3 days later?
Your body is being renewed constantly. The atoms comprising your body today may not be the same ones that comprise it tomorrow. Therefore if something outside of the body can preserve the arrangement of atoms, i.e. the exact information about the system, it can recreate that body. Miracles are discords, in the sense that they usually take some kind of intervention in nature to produce an effect. Lots of atheists call it "magic" but it could simply be a combination of energy and matter manipulation.
If your philosophical position is materialistic you could argue that of course, because u presume there could be no miracles (miracles must be exceptional to be a mircale) - but I think it's meant as a broad statement thats to emphasize, that the bible never claims something unkowingly like the earth is flat which would be wrong based on scientific discovery today - actually the bible is the first documenr to say the earth is round in history.
What fascinates me about science with its' obstacles, when one researcher puts their heart and sweat to develop a super glue they end up finding sticky notes. This challenge can lead to an unexpected beneficial result. It doesn't necessarily need to be seen as negative challenge. A failure could lead somewhere else positive.
It is not surprising that the majority of scientists wish to ignore Professor James Tour. They would go into complete panic if they saw proof that 'science' is completely wrong about the origin of life.
"The most provocative items in the huge archaeological exhibition opening March 4 at the Israel Museum are the ones that aren’t there. The exhibition, “Pharaoh in Canaan: The Untold Story,” is about the long relationship between the land of Israel and ancient Egypt. The hall devoted to the best known part of the story - the Exodus from Egypt - is an empty room with exactly one exhibit on display: a movie featuring co-curator and Israel Museum Egyptologist Dr. Daphna Ben-Tor, who explains that the hall is empty because there is no archaeological evidence whatsoever to support the biblical tale."
I commend your work, Dr. Tour! You are a well articulated man, a gentle persona, and a very wise thinker. You have made me re-think my stance on Abiogenesis, and I hope more people follow in the footsteps of your genuine and honest curiosity. Peace be with you and your family. I hope Mr. Farina one day comes down from his Dunning-Kruger mountain and realizes that humility will get him a lot further in life.
Peer review is not a wonderful open access thing like you imply. Post grad is similar, if noone agrees to supervise you, youre toast. I like the story of the dude (cant rem his name off top of my head) but he came back from PRC after watching the unethical horrors of the one child policy (forced abortions and forced sterilizations), and was basically disowned by his supervisors. He might be able to get published in some paper, maybe he should, but to a certain extent I kinda agree with him that it would be a waste of his energies at this late stage in life.
@@lieshtmeiser5542 That has not been my experience with publishing research. And, Tour has had no problems getting research published. He knows how it’s done. His criticisms would be welcome in any relevant journal.
@@linusloth4145 Geez. First, he’s not going to destroy anything. He is essentially criticizing that some steps are missing. Those are valid points but not devastating. Research in every field, including math, publishes papers that contain incomplete explanations or proofs. Secondly, journals love “contention.” It prompts more papers and readership. For example, currently, there are a few cosmology papers suggesting the universe is twice as old as commonly thought. It’s also clear that theories of early galaxy formation were not correct. If no one wanted to have their theories challenged, they would not have built new telescopes. Scientists know how to do science. The conspiracy that you allege does not occur. What you surmise will happen is actually a reflection of how fundamentalists feel about knowledge that contradicts THEIR worldview. Look at the projection involved in the fundamentalist denial of evolution. Evolution is a done deal. Even Tour would admit that. Finally, you have not heard Tour defend not submitting any papers on OOL based on a bias of non-acceptance. He merely says he wants to concentrate on educating the general public. I have no problem with that except that he is a scientist and could well write a paper if he chose to.
Dr. Tour, wonderful discussion!! I just looked up your BIO and you were working on your PhD in Chemistry at the SAME TIME I was completing my PhD coursework in Physics at Purdue University!! We were at the WEST LAFAYETTE, INDIANA campus at overlaping timeframes!! Another interesting commonality is that I completed by duel BS in CHEMISTRY and PHYSICS at WHITWORTH UNIVERSITY at the same time as Dr. Stephen Meyer the INTELLIGENT DESIGN champion!! I now teach at a small Christian High school after a 34 year career measuring nuclear weapons radiations. Thank you Dr. Tour for being a champion of God and a wonderful ambassador of Jesus Christ!! We need more Christian Scientists to speak up!! I am 100% convinced from a purely SCIENTIFIC standpoint that ABIOGENENESIS is a fairy tale!! While its true SPECIES evolve and adapt in nature, I dont believe species EVER turned into completely different animals from one animal into a different animal. God Bless all!!
I keep asking people for any observable or recorded example of a beneficial mutation producing a new genus. Have never been given an example. The only examples of beneficial mutations are on a very small scale, within species and not even changing the species much less the genus. Billions of years of gradual changes is no more verifiable than a benevolent sky Daddy designing things. Perhaps less verifiable because mutations result from a loss of genetic information, not more information being added. Natural selection is as much a religious idea as any form of theism.
Dr Tour, every time I see you in a video I scramble to grab my notebook. Thanks to you I now have several - FULL of facts I use in evangelism. I Thank you for answering YHWH's call for you life. You are a truely righteous man.
Dr James Tour is the Richard Feynman of Chemistry. This straight up questioning is the Marque of a true scientist. When I listen to Dr. Tour I get goosebumps. I just intuitively know that no matter how much time you have and how bad your thunderstorm is you will simply NEVER get a workable first cell
The reason You lost your cool in the debate was because you’re frustrated and passionate about wanting to help people see the truth. We are all guilty of that, if any Christian says they don’t get annoyed or angry in a debate, I’m afraid I don’t believe them! Thank you for all you do to guide people like myself to understand why evolution can’t happen. It’s been a great help hearing this discussion.
Materialists are the equivalent of flat earthers. They cannot offer a coherent, persuasive argument for their belief, and they dismiss any honest disagreement as bad faith.
100% the same way you have to actually study flat earth arguments to refute flat earthers because of how intricate their arguments are gives the impression they are correct to one who hasnt studied both sides
@@sciencerules8525 It really is not about materialism...because God made everything that was made. It is about the worldview we use to interpret what we examine in God's creation. For instance, atheist geologists see the global layers of strata filled with fossils, coal, oil and gas spanning continents as having occurred over millions or billions of years. Creationists however see those layers being laid down quickly during the Noahic flood which covered the globe,..... burying creatures big and small, burying biomass in massive quantities (later turning to coal, oil and gas from pressures building from subsequent layers laid on top, creating continents and mountain chains as the fountains of the deep opened up releasing magma flows. Materialism can be studied from the point of view of slow uniformitarianism processes or very fast catastrophism events. Mt. St Helens is the best recent example of catastrophism in the modern era creating quickly formed canyons, layers of rock strata, tree trunks penetrating dozens of layers laid down quickly, the quick formation formation of peat at the bottom of lakes etc.
@@sciencerules8525 I have an explanation for creation...you have excuses and pseudoscience...like everything came from nothing and evolution created news species when all creatures are losing genetic information ...not getting it. I have nothing to prove ...it is all on you science deniers.
I’m proud of dr Tour more now so as I heard him admit that sometimes the way we say things can make a difference and he has been combative at times. We Christian’s should be wise as some animals are and not to needless attract persecution but we should be gentle with those who are ignorant of spiritual realities and never acuse like the Acuser. Science is a construct. All we materially have before our senses is nature and the investigation of it by people who we call researchers. Unfortunately , the last few decades some biologists have spoken for the whole community and in their deep incredulity attempted to hijack science as the final possession of the most hardened God scoffers and denials. Their interpretation or fanciful explanations as just as fallible and flawed at time as their very own humanity
15:06 James mentions that bringing someone's race or nationality into a debate is not allowed in the university. However, we also know that social media censors any discussion it deems offensive. What this means is that there can be no honest debates posted on RU-vid or social media regarding these subjects at all. So, expecting to learn the full truth on RU-vid is not possible.
Few men have the intellect to throw down such an eloquent challenge for academia. Fewer men have the qualifications to state such a challenge. Kudos to the interviewer to have Dr Tour, however my only critique, ( and perhaps this is just my ADHD) I felt that each question was asked multiple ways which seemed verbose, and I was anxious to hear Dr. Tour's answer.
Been following Dr. Tour since 2017. Massive respect for this man of God. The devil is a liar and will refute Truth no matter what and affirm their fiction instead.
Thank you, @cindypope4238, for that reminder. I think supporters of Dr. Tour (myself included ) get so angry and combative against his detractors...but in fact we should pity them. They are being fooled and deceived by "the ruler of the kingdom of the air". Blessings to you!
Thank you, @cindypope4238, for that reminder. I think supporters of Dr. Tour (myself included ) get so angry and combative against his detractors...but in fact we should pity them. They are being fooled and deceived by "the ruler of the kingdom of the air". Blessings to you!
"The light has come into the world, but men loved darkness rather than light because their deeds are evil." Pride and greed, the worst and primary sins. That's why they're silent or ignore the issue.
The beginning reminds me of 90's pro wrestling "promos" (brief speeches challenging opponents). I loved 90's pro wrestling so much that I wanted to be a pro wrestler, but had to give it up around when Jesus got me. Thank you for being a blessing, Dr. Tour. I am inspired to keep trying to be less cowardly with my faith
@@niblick616 not sure that works, he isn't proposing an alternate theory. He is just saying with what we currently know about chemistry the current model won't work.
@@adamschaafsma5839 1/ Not sure why you are not sure, given his statements in the video. 2/ In the video, Tour literally speaks about the 'god' thing he believes in, as though it actually exists. If I am not mistaken, the book his 'god' thing supposedly 'inspired' about itself claims that it actually made human beings out of dust and a rib. 3/ I may have missed Tour saying that he doesn't believe that claim in the book that supposedly informs him about his 'god' thing. Has he ever done so? 4/ Given that he is obviously devoted to that 'god' thing, in the video, it is fairly silly to try and claim that he does not believe his 'god' thing did it, when that is exactly what that 'god' thing supposedly claims. 5/ I think a better effort is needed to try and justify Tour's absurd claims.
@@niblick616 the problem is you're mixing his beliefs into his science. You are saying because he believes these things he isn't allowed to analyze only the chemistry on its own merit. That is unfair and intellectually dishonest. If he says the chemistry doesn't work, he has the credentials and has earned the right to say so. God has nothing to do with his claims that the chemistry proposed to create life doesn't work. His personal beliefs should not be what he is judged on here.
Yeah, no one is going to take on Dr Tour, he will dismantle their arguments completely, because he has the knowledge and courage to expose the deceit in academia.
The problem of making things from random steps is much worse than the improbability. The chemistry and overwhelming abundance of things that don’t convey advantage over things that might give a steep slope towards thing breaking down rather than building up. It’s like bouncing a ball on the foothill of a mountain and not only claiming that it could possibly bounce uphill a bit but that it would keep bouncing all the way up the mountain.
@hoptoads Of course, I might never be able to disprove him or anyone else. I'm not a scientist. That's not the argument at all. The argument is that even if you disprove evolution or anything else, you don't get to say god did it. You need to prove a god first. Our lack of knowledge and people's incredulity does not prove a deity
Hi JM. The process of “saltation” in sand dunes involves the wind blowing grains of sand around to form giant sand hills. I Believe it was Bagley who first described the sand grain bouncing processes, and how they are essential to sand dune formation. So, if there is an energy source, like wind or other entropic energy releasing processes, then sand grains make dunes, balls can be driven uphill, and otherwise unlikely chemical processes can become commonplace.
Praise God for your honesty. It's what we need today. What gets into textbooks is quite extraordinary and our children are being taught what is incorrect. May God be glorified.
More than 20 years ago NPR had interviews on the radio. One was of a group of scienr scientists whose conclusions about the investigation of the existence of God was stated to say that science would end up proving the existence of God. And here we are, the time has come. Please share far and wide. Please have Dr. Tours back. We need churches to become aware of his work. We need to protect him and let it be known he has a following.
Almost at the same level of “we have made life in a lab” or “we will make a cell in x amount of years”. But I’m just a dumb creationist so what do I know, right? Also, that’s not really Tour’s argument, if you really want to engage him honestly.
I guess you missed the part where he REPEATEDLY asked the "experts" in this field of science to explain and prove their successful creation of life process, Which according to all scientific records hasn't yet been accomplished.
Thank you for all of these explanations and insights Dr Tour, and for not being afraid of showing personal imperfections on social media, then showing that you wish you'd done it better. So much to learn from. Much appreciated.
