@@theoriginalcatfishConsidering that Versus was created by two different developers, I’d say that Ace Attorney’s creators completely forgot about perjury and Professor Layton’s creators had to remind them. Then they proceeded to forget in any future games…
@@rudequartz Perjury does occur in Versus. But the first time Phoenix points it out Barnham explains that magic messes with you when you encounter it, therefore explaining away most contradictions.
Judge: "I've heard enough! You may have proven your client's innocence beyond any reasonable doubt... but you presented the scarlet handkerchief, when you were supposed to take out the crimson tissue! As such, I must find your client..." G-U-I-L-T-Y
only some of the time, which makes it more obvious when they do forget about the law. Stuff like Double Jeopardy and punishments for forged evidence only happen in a few cases, when they should apply elsewhere
Tried this, got kicked out and then reinvited for some reason? Like who kicks someone out of their house and then invites them because they were kicked out? They said something about trespassing being illegal or something but I kinda just ignored them. My verdict is coming in the next few minutes wish me luck.
Given that Ace Attorney is not only a parody of the Japanese legal system (which itself has a confirmed 99% conviction rate), it scares me to think that part of Ace Attorney is, in a sense, realistic.
It's not. It's a parody of legal systems in general, moreso. It being cited of a parody of *Japanese* legal system seems to be a widespread misunderstanding.
@@somethingAccuratewhile the creator didn't do a lot of significant research into the Japanese law system before making the game, it is nevertheless likely still a parody of Japan specifically due to their abnormal 99.9% conviction rate, as well as the abnormally short period of time that most Japanese court proceedings are usually given. I guess you're right in the sense that it *could* be a parody of any legal system since the theme of "guilty until proven innocent" is universally desirable and the laws are not exactly aligned with Japanese laws, but I don't think that detracts from it being specifically a work of Japanese legal parody originally. This is also supported by AA:AJ, wherein the new jury system implemented in the final case reflects a very similar juror system being implemented in Japan at approximately the same time as the game's release.
Honestly, if those cases were realistic, the cases would be like half as long as they are nowadays let's be honest. Proving Maya not guilty 4 freakin times just for the prosecution to say "who did it then" gets that adrenaline pumping.
Apollo: As you can see, over the last 45 minutes, I have proven without a shadow of a doubt that my client is innocent. Judge: I agree, the client is- OBJECTION Klavier: Ha ha ha....not so fast....You haven't considered this evidence which has literally never been introduced until this point and has not been seen by the defence. Judge: Wow, my opinion has entirely changed in the last 10 seconds. GUILTY
that would in his definision of "realistic" be a rule broken every evidence in more normal courtroom must have been seen by both parties. if not, such things might be discarded
@@claudetheclaudeqc6600 If you're talking about the AMERICAN legal system. While I don't know how accurate it is, the AA games were made as a bit of a mockery to the Japanese legal system, where the rules of evidence may very well be like this. From what I've read, Japan has like a 95% conviction rate because lawyers only take cases they believe they can win, so possibly minus the corruption, it seems like a 40-year win streak wouldn't be uncommon for prosecutors.
Well, in Vietnam, being charged by the prosecution means you are 100% guilty. Never a Not Guilty verdict from the judge. All you can do is trying to lower the punishment.
@@skazzuie on the bright side, the country is highly safe. Local police knows everything happening in their areas and always have a "list" of suspected people. If anything happens, just search on the list. Some international criminals who were able to hide from Interpol got captured in Vietnam, by local police. In one case, just hearing some noise in the background, the police deduced the position.
@@BlindBosnian Well if she just said "He attacked me, I have no idea why he did it but I pushed him in self defence and he died", Wendy might never have mentioned that
You know the reason why "real life law" parodies never work here? It's because it's impossible to tell. It's a Japanese game that's a parody of Japanese court situation from years ago (and thus, Japanese law) that's been translated to an CALIFRONIAN AMERICAN law and it's played by worldwide audience. My case? I'm an European. If it's not either the law of my country nor European Union I have no idea how can it work outside and if it's a parody, it works that way, it doesn't or whatever. The case I'm trying to say is I'm spewing words from my keyboard. (And that maybe...there really are countries out there in which defense attornies work that way?)
dude, the creator of the game barely knew anything about court proceedings he just did things to make the game fun, it was in no way a parody until the 4th game with the jurist system, as you must know how something works to actually make a parody
Well, that answered one of my questions which was “does the games take place in the U.S. in other countries that isn’t the U.S (obviously not Japan but you get it)”
I see a lot of comments pointing out how unrealistic it Is, which (imo) is hilarious My question is: does it have to be realistic? I sit down and genuenly enjoy the games without thinking: "yup that's exactly how it works" I know it doesn't. The way the game portrays these cases makes it interesting. there's certain things you don't question untill after. I got into the franchise through the anime... Which was dogsh*t (imo). And that makes sense cuz... You can't anime this without it being weird xD. But playing the same cases in the game is a completely different experience. And hooked me immediately.
"You can't anime this without it being weird" I haven't seen the anime, but I remember this one live action version where Phoenix was interrogating Lana Heart and does the "So it wasn't Christmas Eve. It was actually Christmas day" bit, and the entire audience did an anime style face fault. That was great.
If ace attorney was actually realistic they'd just ask a Spirit medium to summon the victim every time and/or use a magatama to determine who's lying but they just don't for some reason
That would be the case if not for the DL-6 Incident. Due to the circumstances, the police lost essentially all trust they may have had in spirit mediums.
@@justanotherguy1122 and they didnt start trusting it after 1-4? Logically, the victim fell unconscious before being killed by manfred, explaining why gregory blamed yanni yogi, and since Phoenix proved that manfred killed gregory after everybody else fell unconscious, they should start trusting spirit mediums again, because the dl-6 incident was simply an error, they should learn that there are cases where the victims couldnt see the killer nor know what happened, and that while the victim's testimony CAN be unreliable, they could be helpful for the investigations, so i feel like channeling would be used as a way to find more info, the most likely culprits would become the main suspects while defendants like Maya and so on end up having a better time during these trials.
