Ace Combat Strangereal History: Nordennavic 

Hey guys and gals! Let me know what you thought about the video and if you learned anything new about Nordennavic. :)

Mission 10 is tricky. The "shield" could have been a prototype for what would became the APS in AC7, Grunder Industries would have needed to live test its capabilities before putting on the Arsenal Bird.

Ah yes, Mission 10 where Grendel 1 fights off a Metal Gea...AAA weapons platform

Mission 7 is definitely canon, they just had another spare Arkbird in their garage.

i love the comparation between dates of Northern Wings and AC time line... very fine work!

"Ace Combat 5, which is my favorite in the series." A man of culture I see.

Thank you for talking about Strangereal's history!

They were 3 things that I were think about Ace Combat: Northern Wings: 1) Mission 10 is “absolutely fit to the Ace Combat canon”. 2) Mission 8 must be removed from the story, So that the Nordennavic could not “fell guilty” for their actions. Instead, Mission 9 will be redesigned as Mission 8, while the new Mission 9 story will be like this: Grendel squadron will escort the aircraft that have the VIP inside. Later, its turn out that VIP is an Emmerian Agent who have to reported the Emmerian command about the location of the Estovakian Aerial Command Cruiser, called P-1112 Aigaion. This will lead to the Ace Combat 6 mission 9. 3) Some missions should changed its story so it could fit with the Canon. - Mission 4: Grendel squadron were send to destroy the Experimental Anti-Air Laser Systems that hidden inside the mountains to open the route for the ISAF air forces, led by Mobius 1, to destroy the Northern Eye radar stations. This mission must happens, hours before the ISAF attacks on the radar stations. - Mission 5: Nordennavic should order their astronaut to fire the arkbird laser weapons on the 2nd Yutobanian fleet that en route to the sand island base, yet undetected by the Osean military. So, Grendel squadron will going in to mop-up the remaining fleet. - Mission 7: Grendel squadron were task to destroy the Grey Man’s escort fighters that were send to protected the Arkbird, to open the rout for the razgriz squadron to destroy the Arkbird. Yet, Grendel squadron have to face against the Grey Man’s top ace fighters to prevented them from reaching the Arkbird before the Razgriz.

What if the Estovakian military junta went even further and more insane by invading Nordennavic, I do believe the Nordennavians increased their military presence along the emmerian border to prevent a possible stovie invasion that would’ve been the case considering the threat that Estovakia posed with their aerial fleet, the flag ship of the aerial fleet the aigaion that carried the nimbus cruise missile, the chandelier, the mighty estovakian navy which was armed to the teeth along with the aces of strigon team. I do believe that did happen during the Emmeria-Estovakia war. This is not confirmed ofc, but what if actually happened, the possibility is high, and also what if things escalated into a military standoff which could’ve been possible as well considering the estovakian military junta were extremely hostile

Mabe Razgriz did destroy the ark bird but they used that Nordennavic squadron as a replacement talk because Razgriz was still a secret squadron by the Osean President. Razgriz was not known until 5 years later, when information about them was release to open public. Thats my thought of trying to connect the two.

I had never known that this was an additional title. That was really cool actually...

Yep I really love is come at five as well it was my favorite game ever and I started playing in a 2005 a year after when it first came out

Lets be real, Nordenavic is like the Sweden or Switzerland of Strangereal because of theur Neutrality stance :3

Hey, someone else whose favorite AC is 5! Zero and 4 are great, but 5 is the only one I've 100% completed. And I still go back to play it anyway.

So, Nordennavic is the Italy of Strangereal, Italy too has military that what they do is defend the country.

I would actually love to see the Grendal Plane in a later Ace Combat game

Erusea try not to shoot down foreign diplomats challenge (impossible)

Headcanon idea: Northern Wings is simply an in-universe comic book about those kooky Nordennavics

Just to be clear, just because it's a spinoff doesn't mean it's non canon. For example, Halo Wars is a spinoff in the Halo franchise, yet it's considered canon.

I mean mission 10 could possibly fit they did have a huge massive flying aircraft carrier that shot first missiles so like you know it wouldn't be the only super weapon they had that nobody knew about until later

That answers my question why Nordennavic didn't help anyone in the Emmeria-Estovakia war. At least not officially.

Mission 10 would be a little weird and raise some eyebrows, but it technically could happen without breaking cannon

Mission 7 shall be sent to solitary at the 444th AFB, with three sin lines, for its heresy.

First off. Ace Combat 5 is very tricky. See the entire story is narrated from an outside point of view, not from Blaze's. And we all know that Osea has a thing for embellishing the truth to make them look good. Therefore it could be possible that the Arkbird was never downed by Osean forces, but Osea took credit for it.

I would be cool playing this country in the next AC game, or al least go against it.

Nordennavic is Scandinavia as a single country, isn't it?

Mission ten could fit

Nordennavic is basically Scandinavia then right?

i know that im late to the party but my head cannon that some of the missions dont fit is because some are propaganda from Nordennavic and some propaganda fits and some dosnt

those vikings played us

What does Solutus Eversol mean?

well you see Erusea couldn't take any more refugees because their country was already in alot of havoc and they didnt want it to come out how the refugees didnt have good conditions as a result of their instability is shooting someone down a good way to do that? yes is it the right thing to do ehh

Erusia did nothing wrong

11:08 Don't mind me, im just puting my fav timestamps here

I like to theorize that almost every Ace protagonists secretly go to Nordennavic Kinda explains why Galm 1 and Mobius 1 disappeared

11:20 "Grendal, what have you done? You changed the future! You've created a Time Paradox!" [MGS3 Time Paradox plays]

To be honest, i would love to have a game based on a "black ops" squadron that takes the important events along the series in a different view, Nordennavic is literally Anti-Belka if you think about it xD

Belkan: let's create weapons that lead nations to war... Nordennavic: let's secretly influence others to go to war so they would not go to war with us... Oh boy I can see a really bad combination within these two if they decided to secretly partnered up... Although it really interesting to see if they did....

If Emmeria can’t detect enemies, how would they discover the AA Walker? After all, AC6 is full of holes.

Wow. Grendel were the true Faceless Soldiers of Strangereal. Also Grendel, the monster from the Legend of Beowulf, is a surprisingly fitting name for the team.

Can't wait for whenever you get to Skies Of Deception. Which is, considering that the game is almost the latest in the timeline, second only to Electrosphere, probably gonna be a year or two after the canon date the game is set in.

Mmmh. People always compare Ace Combat to Metal Gear. And I'd love to fight giant walking AA tanks in a 3d ace combat game. So I consider mission 10 canon

Imagine a full, 3d, canonical remake of Northern Wings which actually fits in and follows the story of all the current AC games, including 7, and with some other bits and bobs thrown in there, like the suggestion for Grendel to use ISAF planes during Mission 4. "Due to the fact that nobody must know we are operating in this airspace, you won't be flying with your standard planes. Instead, you'll all be flying undercover as ISAF pilots, with these ISAF F-16s."

Well, the environment of the NW's mission 10 were looks sandy, Razgriz straits were.... Bunch of ice cre.... Sorry, icebergs! Also, the Anean Continent is so close to the North Pole! (Indeed i haven't get a SR map that shows not only South Pole) While mission story wise it's doable, environmentally....i guess no.

With Mission 10... lets remember that they found out about Chandelier from a civilian who appealed to the humanity of an elderly, grounded Estovakian Air Force officer and ace pilot... While he would be in position to be privy to the existence of Chandelier, interservice rivalries could have left him in the dark about the Metal Gear.

I feel like Emmeria was too busy with Chandelier to fight off the Giant Antlion

What if Northern Wings is actually a set of rumors about how Nordennavic may have influenced some events instead of actually being true depictions? Some of the missions could fit into the canon, just like some rumors can be fairly plausible, while other missions are just false, also like some rumors.

Even if the Nordennavic story was a contradiction in some parts of the Ace Combat timeline, I would've really liked to see a Northern Wings in the traditional Ace Combat style. It would have been cool to fly the fictional aircraft along with the real-life ones as well as to fly the Arkbird. I imagine the Arkbird mission in the traditional style would be akin to a precision bombing mission. Mission 4 would force the player to only choose a standard aircraft painted in the scheme of an ISAF operative, and have them blend into one of the task forces as a random named pilot. Also I do agree that Mission 7 was way out of its way to change the timeline, and that a mission to intercept and destroy a Belkan squadron tasked with providing air support to the Arkbird while watching over to make sure Razgriz/Arkbird doesn't get targeted would have worked better to maintain/add to a story's canon. For Mission 10, a VTOL mechanism that can allow a plane to hover in one place could be an optional strategy for the player other than to stay low to the ground and hiding around the mountains while risking crashing in a fashion similar to the canyon flight missions, and I feel that as crazy/far-fetched as the Antilon system is, I feel that if it had an underground hangar made of radar-blocking materials, it could just pass by Emmerian satellites/surveillance planes and stay unknown until the point where they pull it out as a last resort to interfere with Garuda team's mission to destroy Chandelier by sending long-range attacks. Grendel 1 would just be flying around for most of the first half, gathering data while avoiding being detected by enemy radar, then when the mission update pops up, and targets appear, Grendel 1 breaks cover and attacks the Antilon directly while avoiding its anti-air weaponry, and large movement. A primary objective would be to disable the Antilon's shield system by shooting what I imagine would be the energy projectors mounted around the Antilon and then taking out its legs to stop its movement before targeting the TLS and then finally in true Ace Combat fashion, fly in through a small opening burst open by consecutive attacks and destroy the core inside before flying out. Just some thoughts on how some missions can be tweaked to create a timelime that stll can be considered canon

Interesting video, it has helped me understand the story of "Northern Wings" more throughly given (at least the last time I looked) Acepedia had very little to go on, most likely for the sake of minimising spoilers as much as possible. I do believe 9 of the missions, as well as the little bits of lore mentioned throughout can fit into the current cannon. Albeit with minor alterations. For one, Grendel Squadron would not use the NRAF's own planes, let alone in their own colours and insignia. Instead they'd be flying ISAF, OADF and REAF aircraft hide Nordennavic's involvement in these conflicts, plus the squadron would have to operate under different callsigns to hide the identities of the pilots incase of capture. Mission 7 of course is complete bogus since it obviously contradicts the established continuity ...Unless Blaze just so happens to be an elite Nord pilot which probably explains why he's pestering Bartlett with orders in the first missions lol Hey Solutus, just came across your channel, and as an Ace Combat fan myself, I've really enjoyed your content thus far. They're well-narrated, and the drawings while simple, do still perfectly illustrate the events explained in your videos. I do hope to see more great stuff from your channel. ^^

What if Nordennavic turns out to be the twist villains of Ace Combat 8 , secretly masterminding the war of the week and causing the deaths of millions to neutralise an imagined threat and Grendel Squadron is the final boss? But instead of valiant heroes they're creepy jingoistic killers who; to keep themselves sane from all the dirty black ops skulldudgery they've done; have justified every act of violence as their victims deserving it. Day in and day out, someone else is killed without warning or provocation for king and country. And after all the years of secrecy, murder, deception, and violence, there's nothing but arctic cold in their souls. The irony is that none of the countries would have ever thought of attacking Nordennavic if it weren't for the aforementioned skullduggery, so the beating they get in the last act of the story is something they brought upon themselves. Grendel One dies having brought war to his country as the Allies storm its capital to dig up every dirty secret of the past few decades. Plus I mean, people who spend decades murdering other people in secret with no direct provocation are probably going to be more than a little psychologically disturbed. You'd need to compartmentalise your empathy to live with the guilt of Grendel Squadron's work so it wouldn't be hard to turn them into villains. As for the final dogfight, as far as I know Ace Combat's never had a final boss that's a squadron vs squadron fight. Especially not with an entire squadron of super planes. The closest comparison would be the dogfights with Hugin and Munin, but this would be an endurance match against a dozen or more black ops death squaddies who've shot down thousands of aircraft between them over the course of more than twenty years. It'd definitely be a very unique final boss; but if you really need a superweapon to give it some flair, they could have some airship mobile base come in to support them.

So Nordennavic is Strangereal Switzerland? Cool 😎

So you're telling me, the game about the infamously neutral Nordennavic, protecting their neutrality... Doesn't feature a mission involving the Yukes putting a nuclear sub in their waters, and only has three missions involving the massive wars that happened just a few miles from their borders? But they had time to fuck around in Osea while Razgriz/Wardog weren't looking, because that makes sense.

When Northern Wings 2 drop, Grendel will take down both Arsenal Birds at the start of the Light House War and one of them will be piloting Pioneer 1

11:22 I laughed way too hard at this sequence

I hope that bandai namco makes a remake of this game. (But then with the Canon timeline.)

This was very interesting. I'd like to see more Strangereal events and countries that receive little attention Subscribed! :D

Did you say four-legged walking laser weapon system? *A weapon to surpass Metal Gear...*

Erusia's plan of shooting down a formation of cargo planes with refugees to keep it a secret sounds very logical, must be canon.

So basically it wasn't the belkans, it was the not-vikings? I also love the design of their planes. Like space fairing raptors

So, Switzerland in Strangereal?

So they are super-Switzerland? Awesome! :D

Is it bad that all I could hear at the end of this was the soundtrack from AC7? I've just dubbed it Trigger's Theme lol

As long as they change the design of the weapon, then yes. I agree that Mission 10 is canon.

What if Razgriz squadron was a propaganda made by some freelance journalist from Sand Island and they never existed? And that, Nagase and the others never escaped, just common fighter pilots working closely and blindly with Thunderhead in the airforce and were actually promoted as the Razgriz squadron members by Mr. Cargo and Genette to uplift morale? Or that Grendel squadron were Razgriz all along? They never flew again because the real Razgriz fly for Nordennavic. But that's just a theory! A heretical theory!

I think NW:Mission 10 would make sense due to no missions in AC:6 having a mission to do with a 4-legged walker and Garuda Team not being damaged on arrival because Ghost Eye would have pick up on the walkers position, so in the end, yes Mission 10 is canon

Haha the voice over of ISAF is funny

I don't think 10 is Canon. I'm sure the Strigon Team would have been called upon if a Unknown Fighter in a Advanced looking plane appeared and attacked Estovakian Defenses as the Strigon Team was at Chandelier P.S. edit: 9 should be a maybe cuz wouldn't have Grendel Squadron run into Numbus Missiles and the Strigon Team if they were at Gracemaria?

You remind me of one of my favorite history channels! I’m subbing to you man keep this up!

I actually had this game on my phone as a kid

Looking at Mission 8, and 9 as a response, at least the Nordennavic Air Force show some regret over their secret involvement going wrong; unlike the Belkans.

Mission 10 literally happens on April fools day. I don't think I need to say anymore.

Interesting and for one of the combat aircraft they produced the V50 it's likely to have being license produced in North Point ISAF base as the BAE Tempest.

Grendal could hide everything by pretending to be mercs years of doing these things would give them a reputation but have them be really pickey about what jobs they take

i say mission 10 can fit, but with some tweeks. I always found it weird that a massive formation of Emmerian non-stealth aircraft were able to make it to Northern Estovokia unscathed.

Never heard of this, big fan of the AC series, my first game was 04 (my favorite game to this date) and played every single one afterwards Personally I would love a remastered version of this game for all platforms with more missions added to it and to fix the missions that don't work in the AC History I think the last mission is a great idea but not the way they executed it Not the walking machine thing, nah, Emmerian intelligence agency would have been able to pinpoint that thing Maybe something like flying through a tunnel (every AC fetish) to destroy Estovakian air defense mainframe that would have obliterated Garuda and allied forces from entering the airspace of Chandelier That's my thought anyways

They should remake this game, but this time make so it can fit in the canon timeline

I know this was a year ago, but heres what i think about mission 10 I dont think its possible, unless estovakia is freaking rich They have a lot they need to back, the chandelier, their fleet of that big ass airplanes, not to mention their own army They went through Ulysses, civil war, its already a miracle that they have enough army to invade emmeria. Unless they have a secret stockpile of golds, they wouldnt be able to make a walker like that

wait so Blaze as a ability to land a Freaking Fully armed F-14 Tomcat into a highway just to drive his plane into a OFC drive true for ordering a bucket of chicken wings? seriously blaze is different like Trigger isn't he?

new headcanon that blaze is an avid fried chicken fan i don't make the rules i just enforce them

I just discovered this amazing channel Time to stay

Arakvr V-55 in ISAF Air Force it's called BAE Tempest

Hey Solutus Great Job At Explaining A Pain In The Back Game That Is The Ace Combat Northern Wings And Also I Agree With You Mission 7 Is A Bullcrap Both Mission 5 & 7 Needs A Altercation Especially On Mission 7 Heavily Altercation Just To Keep Itself Inside The Canon Timeline It Would Be Good If The Devs Decided To Remake The Northern Wings But Alter It To Perfectly Match The Canon Timeline With Other Mission Being Alter A Little Bit Don't You Agree

Is it messed up of me to wish that there might have been a mission or two that were assassination missions. Like to be a unknown boggie who shot down oh I don't know..... Mobis One, Blaze, Galm 1, or maybe Tailsman. Like they saw something they shouldn't or Nordennavic thinks that having that skilled of a pilot on the loss is a security liability (I can definitely see it for Galm 1 the Demon Lord, since he's a mercenary and has no loyalties to any side having that skilled of a pilot with no leash or collar is kinda dangerous)

2:58 u are right about Emmeria being a republic, but there still a royal family present and I do believe the emmerian head of state is a king, but the country is like the UK where the royal family holds limited power compared to the emmerian political council

Wait a minute time out. Could Cipher and Phoenix be Nordennavians? Think of it both of them are mercenaries aka guns for hire, they fly for any Air Force if payed a good wage, so maybe the Nordennavian government secretly established fighter pilot program that turns ordinary people into deadly mercenaries and then send them out to any conflict that might threaten nordennavic’s neutrality, think of it guys look at Belka they might’ve threatened nordennnavic’s neutrality and same thing with the usean rebels they wanted to launch an ICBM at the Yukes so the same thing could’ve happened to the nordennavians. I dunno it’s just my thinking

It won't play past 20 seconds, wtf?

Northen Wings just feels like Nordennavic propaganda and im all in for it

Fantastic premise being able to play as the people who start a war, as opposed to your typical heros Too bad the execution and the game itself....Well....Sucked.

i hacked my psp to install a java emulator on it just so i could play northern wings, couldnt really think of any other way to get my hands on it, i really hope they retcon stuff and change dates to make northern wings canon, and maybe make a proper nordennavic spinoff game in the future, perhaps for the next handheld sony comes up with or something

11:56 Blaze: Uhm, i'd like a bucket of original recipe! Cashier: *What????* Blaze: I said a bucket of original recipe!!!!

I think UPEO is similar to this nation except that Nords don't interfere originally unless they're pressured like mentioned in the video.

Fam, they retconned so much that it wouldn't be hard to change some details to get this to fit. Great video anyway, always heard the game sucked but this looks cool.

I can only assume Nordenavvic is hiding some shady stuff if they trying to rewrite history

Anybody else think that the Grendel Squadron is behind the Wellow Incident?

Is Nordenavic a strangereal Switzerland?

I think if you tweak the missions a little I think it would make a good ace combat 7 dlc.

To be fair, I was busy chasing drones down so in theory a lucky missile shot from an unknown source coulda killed the Arkbird

Is belka still a populated nation?

With a few minor plot tweaks, this would make a GREAT 3d game!