Acer Triton 500 Thermal Testing - How Hot Is It? 

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Yeah they seem to have limited the maximum power well to prevent that, and with the default undervolt it can still perform quite well, seems like a fair trade off to me.

for R15 around 1200 is really good, 1100ish is fine, anything less is some degree of throttling

@@bradhaines3142 i mean in R20

@@Matt___B i got mine set to run cool, and it just ran 2600. so im guessing 2800 is a good run for full power. i got all sorts of setting touched, so it rarely goes over 80c, never hits 90 anymore

@@bradhaines3142 i've got 2799, but it was just a test to see how far i could push it. For daily use like now, its undervolted by 165mv and i've locked the clock so now it doesnt get hotter then 55°C.

Good to hear, and thanks! 👍

How much noise would you say the fan makes when gaming in normal mode? Obviously hard to convey in text but like, is it bearable? Is it a lot quieter than turbo? Thank mate.

No problem, happy to help!

And what choice did you make at the end? And if you bought it, do you recommend it?

Thanks, I used Intel XTU to boost it up, though I only found it to apply in CPU only workloads, you could also use Throttlestop.

Thanks!

yeah i think its just a trade off of having such a thin device that packs so much power, id say its alright though, my acer nitro 5 with an i5 and 1050ti usually peaks around 83c to 85c while gaming and it never had any performance issues

I do not, you'd have to go through all my thermal testing videos and compare the results, sorry. Maybe some time in the future I will do this and make a "quietest laptops" or similar, but I don't have the numbers readily available other than in video form.

Not particularly high no, not even getting to mid 90s like many others would do easily. Seems alright under worst case stress test given the thinner chassis.

JavierSaB Before you can decide on which laptop you want you need to think about your priorities with it. Let’s put the blade 15 and gs65 on one side and the other two laptops on the other. If work comes before play then I would suggest either the blade 15 or gs65. If ur gonna play day and night then id recommend a thicker gaming laptop or the thin asus. Personally I would prefer a blade 15 or gs65 just based on my lifestyle. The gs65 goes on sale alot more than the blade 15 does but the blade 15 is overall a better laptop in my opinion

@@Ethereal184 My priority is gaming and portability. Do you think that G-sync compatibility is important ? The gs65 doesn't have it and it's kind of a deal beaker for me. Thank you so much for the support !

It’s unfortunate gaming and portability doesn’t mix very well in today’s laptops because you either get more of one or the other. If u really do plan on getting a gaming first laptop then yea I recommend one with g sync like the Lenovo legion y740. Thats actually cheaper than something like a gs65 but just remember it’ll have less battery life and be thicker and heavier. If you’re a student i would really recommend going for something like the gs65 if not you’ll end up putting games ahead of studies lol

After doing some research I managed to find two laptops you should probably take a look at. 1. www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/legion-laptops/legion-y-series/Lenovo-Legion-Y740-15/p/88GMY701059 This first one is the Lenovo legion Y740, I would recommend buying the one that cost $1600 with a gtx 2070 maxq. This laptops comes with maxq and really does offer alot for your money. Only downside to it is that it has a smaller battery and slightly thicker than the second laptop 2. www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-15-6-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i7-32gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2060-512gb-solid-state-drive-matte-black-with-gold-diamond-cut/6343975.p?skuId=6343975 The second one is a msi laptop. This configuration runs at $1900 with a student discount. It has twice amount of ram at 32gb and a rtx 2060 maxq, it also has a 240hz screen while the Lenovo has a 144hz screen. This laptop will perform slightly less than the Lenovo but with better battery life and in a thinner package. Personally I prefer the gs65 but it really depends on your needs and budget. If u really do plan on gaming alot take the Lenovo but if portability is more important then the gs65 is a much better option with a really good looking chassis. I recommend going to best buy and comparing these laptops so u can physically see the difference. One last thing is that u should remember that prices can change at any moment. If the gs65 ever goes lower than its current price then u might as well go for that

No ETA on that one, they told me about a month ago there was a 1-2 month delay getting review units in Australia, haven't heard anything and still waiting on them 😢

Helios will probably perform better, the undervolt is more aggressive, it's a little thicker and more cooling means the power limit is higher. Triton only worth considering if you really need Thunderbolt, or G-Sync in the 2080 config.

For me personally the Triton 500 is the easy choice. I need portability more, it's much thinner and smaller than the thick 17" Helios 500, plus the 2060 is quite close to the 1070 you can get in the Helios 500 anyway. I thought one of the main advantages of the Helios 500 was the great cooling, but as we can see here the thermals are ok too. The Helios 500 can come with the 8 core Ryzen desktop CPU, maybe if I really needed that and didn't move it around so much it could be a better option.

Helios 500 if you don't need small sizes and good battery. I got the AMD version with a desktop CPU and it runs much cooler and quieter than this.

Thanks! The Y740 has G-Sync, Triton only has that if you go for the 2080 Max-Q model. I've never properly been able to test 2070mq vs 2080mq so really hard for me to answer, but you can get a rough idea of the differences in my game benchmark videos, towards the end of the video I have a graph that shows all of the laptops I've recently tested and there are 3-4 of different specs. Weird that Triton is cheaper with better GPU, the CPU difference will be pretty small.

Not sure, probably not, it'll mostly be the same as the 8th gen one with RTX they already sent me I think, haven't been offered one yet in any case and they usually offer me everything they have haha.

Not that I noticed, probably coil whine would be my guess. To be honest the fans would cover it up in turbo mode anywhere even if it was present.

Just replace the thermal compound

I use kryonaut and it never went over 75°C

@TheGoat I get thermal throttling (of cpu) when running 3D mark and also power limit throttling. I have also updated bios and cleaned the fans, and undervoltning of 100mv did not help. And I did not get these high values months ago, this is pretty recent. thinking of changing the thermal past on the cpu might be the next step?

@TheGoat But that would not result in those high temperatures right?

I think it will work great, granted you could get most of the performance from another machine so depends how much you want something thinner/smaller like this.

@@JarrodsTechYeah, i want the impossible: that it will be small, thin and powerful in the same time😊🙈

Thanks! I've got the camera and lens listed in the video description under "My camera gear" 😁

@@JarrodsTech haha wow sir, you are incredibly thurough in everything you do, I was wondering if that was a GH5.. looks fantastic thanks for the reply

No problem at all, cheers!

GX502 will smash the rest in terms of raw performance, at least in gaming, so I can only presume that would translate over to that workload.

@@JarrodsTech Thank you very much😊🙏

Sounds fine to me, wouldn't worry about it. Try undervolt further or run at higher fan speeds if you're concerned about it, but I don't think that's a problem. Raising the back up should help in a similar manner to using a cooling pad.

@@JarrodsTech would you recommend using liquid metal instead of thermal paste after the warranty expires?

Battery life is fair, I'll discuss it in the full review video which comes out this next Monday, so look out for that for full details.

@@JarrodsTech thanks Jarrod, looking forward to it!

Might depend on your country, but it is for sale: www.dell.com/en-us/shop/laptops/new-15/spd/alienware-m15-r2-laptop

The text in the video read -0.15V which would be -150mV.

@@KshitijChawla okay that's what I figured thanks for the response

Yep what Kshitij said.

Yes that's the newer 9th gen version, I doubt it would see much difference under multicore load due to the throttling issues here that would also be present there. It may see a little boost with some tweaks or in shorter burst / single core workloads.

It's a tough one because I don't even own 5 haha, I wanted to get a bunch to do a comparison but quickly found they hardly made much difference, so far I have three that I will be comparing with vacuum coolers and a normal stand in a future video on 10+ laptops.

thermal pads dont make a big difference. youre paste is what matters most.

Thanks!

I discuss why it wasn't done at 7:40

To be honest nothing about it in particular comes to mind about it being better, however I didn't test the 2060 one.

@@JarrodsTech I see, guess going for the gs75. 3 ssd slots are very alluring haha.

Yeah that's a great bonus I forgot about, one of the few laptops that offers that feature.

Helios 300 has higher CPU power limit due to the thicker chassis and more cooling, higher undervolt out of the box, and GPU overclock in turbo mode. You can see in my game test video here even the 1660 Ti Helios beats it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UXPXzlpyVvU.html Triton has the advantage of being smaller, Thunderbolt 3, and goes up to 2080 Max-Q with G-Sync, Helios only goes to 2070 Max-Q and no G-Sync. G-Sync will boost FPS in many games for the reasons covered here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RJfHr-Y57LY.html

i think it depends where u live. In singapore, the SGD$2550 triton 500(rtx2060) cost only SGD$45/AUD$47 more than the SGD$2505 helios300(rtx2060). For me, i confirm will pay the extra money and go for the triton 500.

I didn't find it too hot, but it could warm up more over time if your legs block the air intakes.

Maybe the Lenovo y740, it also has a g sync and isn't too expensive compared others

@@JarrodsTech thanks u are the best laptop reviewer ever I am confident too say that content just GOOOD!!

@@JarrodsTech how about fan control with bios

I never manually put in any limits.

@@JarrodsTech what about the clock speed do you change that or leave it at 41?

I have never attempted to manually set clock speed in any of my laptop videos on the channel.

@@JarrodsTech gotcha sorry for the confusion👍

Helios 300 is good value for money in many regions at the moment, new stuff just around the corner though.

Not sure why you'd get both 😁 hard to compare without having tested the same specs. Both are hard to get into, this is probably more annoying with the upside down motherboard but at least it doesn't have memory soldered to the motherboard like the GX701. With higher GPUs both also have the advantage of G-Sync, I think the build quality of the GX701 was a bit better/solid though.

@@JarrodsTech thanks dude YOU ROCK!

If you want a laptop for everyday work as well, the Tirton seems like the better choice.

@@KshitijChawla yeah but the zephyrus should be able to handle that too right?

Its keyboard Is front shifted. Especially on a lap but even on a table, without a decent palm rest, typing for long hours can get tiring. Then there's the twilight zone of fatigue, where the hands are not so tired that one feels the fatigue acutely, but they are tired enough that one has to focus more on the typing itself, one makes more mistakes while typing, and so on..I am a developer and the typos due to a bad keyboard really kill the productivity for coding. Then the trackpad is portrait orientation but the display is landscape orientation, which means one has to lift the fingers and reset their position to move the pointer across the display more frequently. Considering I will be typing on it for ~6-8hrs everyday for 2-3 years, this kind of problem will add up, the fatigue takes away from daily productivity. It can also contribute to repetitive stress injuries, which are a terrible burden on life. These 2 would be enough to not consider this as my primary machine. The compromise doesn't seem worth the extra gaming performance of maybe +10-15FPS (at best), when I will be playing at 1080p. I would reject the Zephyru based on that, but 2 other things to consider: 236min of youtube video watching is not good battery life for productive use. Any serious work: Browser with 15 tabs open, with Excel and Spotify running will suck it dry in 2.5-3hrs max. Finally the 1.5lbs extra weight or 3lbs extra weight with the charger (which will be necessary with short battery life) means I cannot use it as conveniently as a daily workhorse. This extra weight is not good if one commutes using public transport for example.

Yeah same dude, mine can even reach like 95...

I replaced my ram bars, and had to disassembly everything, you just need to be patient and pay attention to every cable, screw, etc you remove, but it's not that awful, if you're patient and cautious

@@yoshizuna8919 HyperX Impact K2 (2 x 16GB, DDR4-2666, SO-DIMM 260 pin)

GS75? Both have upside down motherboards, that does have more M.2 slots though. It's 17" which personally isn't for me, 15" is for me.

@@JarrodsTech again i have to say you're one of the few reviewers who actually take time out to help your fans ^^ is it because the msi 17 model is too large or is there another problem?

The full review is tentatively scheduled for the 19th, you can see how it performs in 20 different games in yesterdays video here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UXPXzlpyVvU.html

I talk about this in the upcoming review video a bit, depends what you're after. Helios 300 is cheaper and does perform better (it has newer 9th gen CPU compared to this, though Triton is available with that too, but also higher CPU power limit, GPU overclock and higher undervolt). No Thunderbolt on the Helios, Triton is thinner, and also has the option of G-Sync with higher GPUs.

80c is perfectly fine, I wouldn't worry about it at all.

@@JarrodsTech Okay cool. Could you recommend me a decent offset voltage and turbo ratio limit on Throttlestop?

I recorded it today and discuss this a bit towards the end.

@@JarrodsTech oh please tell me now coz i am buying later T-T

Basically you can get the Helios 300 with same 2060 for about $100 USD less. The Triton 500 seems to offer Thunderbolt 3 and a thinner build, not that much else. It's harder to upgrade, but at higher GPU options you do have the option of G-Sync which should help boost performance, plus you can also get it with higher tier GPU.

@@JarrodsTech thank you jarrod!

@@JarrodsTech the hp omen with the same config is 500 less

Maybe, just depends what ASUS have available in Australia to lend me.

This didn't age well

change thermal paste and clean fan.

Depends on spec differences

Yeah could be difficult if you wanted to do that, based on my results I don't see too much benefit in attempting it without the option of boosting CPU power limit in combined CPU/GPU load, at least for me these temps are fine.

@@JarrodsTech Wouldn't there be need to re-paste in the future? Or is it not necessary?

Depends on the quality of the paste they're using and if higher temperatures are observed over time, I'd guess it'd probably be fine though. I saw no difference changing the paste on my 7 year old PC I used every day for example.

it does run about 5c or a bit less hotter I do believe, however do some research because I might be wrong

I wouldn't expect a difference under multicore load. The architecture is the same, assuming Acer use the same power limits it would run at around the same clock speeds before power limit throttling. Would be faster for single core load and temporary random boosting though.

It's linked in the description.

Nice, I had no battery drain on the 2060 model, 180w seemed to be fine.

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Seems to be, yes.

Plot Twist: Why my laptop same as you but these heat never pass 90. Even imma playing Doom with ray tracing or GTA V with Full mod graphics (Realistic) or Vanilla Texture. Imma using a cooling pad just below 80$ and... room temperature about 24°. Sometime you need to check your fans and clean it asap.

@@godniko1790 I already did it (as long putting new thermal paste), but yet still go in this way. I just avoid to overload it with work, using it less and with waaay lighter games.

GP75 and P65 at the moment.

I haven't tested a gs65 for a while so honestly can't compare based on my own results. It would of course also run warmer with a warmer room temp so not sure how they're testing. Different workloads will also have different results.

As far as i know dave also recommended this laptop

Suh dude. we say it's not very good because of the low power limit. The chassis can't handle the temperatures so they just took the lazy route and set the power limit lower instead of engineering something that can properly cool the machine

Still seems to perform well enough though even with the power limits in place, seems like a pretty good compromise to me given they're undervolting by default with the newer BIOS now - this was not done with the original shipped machine and older BIOS.

Depends on the workload, either way I don't measure that so can't answer.

I guess you can compare the results here with my Helios 300 video, but from memory Helios is better as it's a little thicker with more aggressive undervolt.

@@JarrodsTech Thank you! This helped me decide (chose the helios)! Appreciate you take the time to reply. Been looking for the best gaming/study laptop in an 1800 budget that doesnt get too hot (unless you suggest something else haha). You earned a sub!

Roland 33 how about thermals?

@@felipedourado 79-93 degrees celsius its pretty good at cooling. The fans can be pretty loud though wear ear phones.

Fair enough, varies by machine of course, I've had some Intel CPUs that couldn't go below -0.07v without blue screening.

@@rolandxor179 93 degrees is considerably high, don't you think?

@@felipedourado Yes this is the range when playing games on highest settings thats the peak usually it stays in the 80's. It cools really well.

It's linked in the description.

@@JarrodsTech Thank you good sir

Yes

Have you bought it? I am also a student, thinking to buy it but wonder how the fans and battery life go

I've been trying to get one since Computex, still no review unit availability here in Australia unfortunately, though I am finally getting the GX502 out of them next week!

Maybe, I've been waiting on ASUS to have review units in Australia, they told me weeks ago there was some delay getting them so I'm just waiting on them.

@@JarrodsTech thanks a lot !

Jarrod'sTech can you please get the 1660ti version so we can compare it with helios300?

I don't generally get control over the specs, I just get what I'm given. If I get a 1660 Ti then yes that's probably a comparison I'd do.

@@JarrodsTech hi can you also make a video like the best laptop for thermal ? Thanks a lot

It's tomorrow.

Haven't tested the 700/900 yet so honestly don't know enough about them to discuss yet.

It does not, many people, myself included, don't use it so not that big of a deal to a lot of people. Personal preference in the end though.

I'll ask for it once I finish up with two other MSI machines they sent first.

Oh and i want with 9750

Let's hope it does!

@@JarrodsTech unfortunately i just found out they won't put 9th gen cpu's in them, so i'm out. What a bummer, it has so much going for it.

@@teddym2808 they did lol

@@mathwaydxdy that was 7 months ago, my comment that is. You are funny lol

Yeah due to the power limits, seems like a fair compromise though.

Yes

Should be fine.

@@JarrodsTech thank you. Also do you know if the i5 9300h version of the Acer predator Helios comes with the undervolt out the box like the i7 does?

I do not know as I have not tested it. I would assume so, but have no idea. Maybe they thought it wasn't needed for the i5.

@@JarrodsTech Thank you. Why would it not be necessary for the i5 though? Would I see a lot worse performance with this configuration?

@@fin-less8781 I'm saying it's probably less necessary so maybe they didn't do it, I'm just guessing. I haven't compared the 9300H and 9750H yet as I haven't been able to get the right machines to do it so can't answer that.

It's almost like I make the videos two weeks or more in advance of posting them, meaning any feedback can't instantly be incorporated within an existing video without additional effort. I still don't really know what you want me to do though, the "maximum" reported in GPU-Z is 87c, same as every other RTX laptop I've checked so not really sure what the benefit of checking that's the same every time is. Is that information useful? If it actually throttles I will cover it in the video. There are almost zero useful options in the BIOS.

Does the graph at 4:06 not show you this? Or do you mean total power draw from the wall or something?

@@JarrodsTech Oh that's great, thanks!

Sounds good!

@@JarrodsTech As usual, I didn't win.

I think the 9750h has different power limits as 8750h. Mine as well hits 95-98degrees during higher loads cpu+gpu. While doing nothing it has like 41-43 idle. While doing internet stuff it has between 48-55.

Yes, they were meant to have them available last week so hopefully not too long until I get sent one.

Yeah I've only seen them in Clevo units lately. I mean most can be removed when you take off the lid, but I'm assuming you mean without doing that.

The Y540 is much cheaper. If anything you'd compare this to the Y740.

@@ZS-xi4xk Well then, y740 or Triton 500?

This one has better battery life. For day to day usage I think this would be better. My overall impression is also that this is better than the Lenovo.

Y540 for me because I don't need Thunderbolt or a machine as thin as this, plus I'd pick it over the Helios 300 too (comparison coming soon).

@Jai Kumar Yes, I'm not much of a laptop user. I use a desktop most of the time. But I would like to switch to laptop since I can carry it around with me. I don't like apple since I can't game on it lol. I'm choosing between lenovo y530, y540, helios 300 and Triton 500.

Let us know how it goes if you do! Always good to hear the experience others have with it.

@@JarrodsTech how to update the bios?

Go to the Acer support page, search your model, download the BIOS, run it on the machine.

If that's just peak rather than solid average I wouldn't worry too much.

@@JarrodsTech between 85 and 92 was my average this morning it was more at 89 and peaked at 96 and 93 was average

I think the 9750h has different power limits as 8750h. Mine as well hits 95-98degrees during higher loads cpu+gpu. While doing nothing it has like 41-43 idle. While doing internet stuff it has between 48-55.

@@gazthepussydestroyer Same.

Does the 9750h undervolt by default with the stock bios?

Damn why 60 Hz.

Cool, hope it's going well!

Maybe plug it in to an external monitor?

@@nether6209 8 ram too

Omens are ass

Never used HP so can't really comment. Thinner machines cost more though, nothing new there 😛

Had an omen twice, both had way too high cpu and many issues that came with it

Cool I hope the upgrade goes well

You see there's a reason why because it has constant keyboard malfunctions and I really hate wasting money replacing it over and over again

Not sure if I can, depends what they get available in Australia and haven't seen that one here yet.

Yep

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Fair enough, cheers!